just thought id make this in advance. let the games begin
Im glad we agree my governor is a dumbasscan't wait to vote for some combination of 2 out of 4 of the worst people on earth to represent me internationally and decide upon sweeping uses of our society's collective efforts to inevitably just make it so that Rich McGuy from Goldman Sach's incubator only has to pay 23% effective taxes on his $1.6m a year income rather than 25% and then have this policy sold back to me as some massive win for the working class as the vast majority of my clientele wonders how they're supposed to follow my advice to invest weekly from their paycheck on their 34k a year salary that involves backbreaking work
but that's the best partThe last thread last thread had some of the genuily worst takes/opinions ive ever saw on a screen and basically consisted of Chou posting 5 pages worth of essays every Monday, Mike fighting with everyone for no particular reason, some interesting discussion every 20 pages or so and most ppl just posting stuff that twitter recommended them.
I'm genuinely curious to hear: what makes you support Trump despite 1) his belief climate change is a hoax and 2) the fact his response to Covid has led the US to become far and away the world leader in deaths (currently standing at 167,000), given the importance of these two issues on a global scale?Trump 2020
1) a hoax from the chineseI'm genuinely curious to hear: what makes you support Trump despite 1) his belief climate change is a hoax and 2) the fact his response to Covid has led the US to become far and away the world leader in deaths (currently standing at 167,000), given the importance of these two issues on a global scale?
Sure.I'm genuinely curious to hear: what makes you support Trump despite 1) his belief climate change is a hoax and 2) the fact his response to Covid has led the US to become far and away the world leader in deaths (currently standing at 167,000), given the importance of these two issues on a global scale?
okIf you pay attention to deaths per million
I'm actually surprised because it does show the U.S. at a level on par with several countries (France, Brazil) and slightly below Spain and Italy in terms of COVID deaths per million.
But climate change is too big to simply "not worsen." Action needs to be taken, and now. Another four years of basically pretending it doesn't exist cannot happen, and there is a world of difference between the independent efforts of various states and a concentrated effort led by the President. Do you agree with that?1. Idc about that given he hasn't worsened climate change in any significant ways (btw, despite pulling out of the Paris Climate Accord, the US is still well ahead in its efforts compared to other countries. It was not a good agreement to he general).
vonFiedler already covered this2. Its not smart to look at raw numbers for covid, because the US also has a very large population. If you pay attention to deaths per million, the US is not doing bad by any means. A pretty big fraction of the deaths happened in New York as it was (because Cuomo thought itd be great policy to shove old people with covid back into nursing homes, despite being the population most vulernable to the disease).
That's funny, because Trump himself isn't too coherent, stumbling over his words and embarrassing himself in interviews left and right ("the US is lower than the world" lol). He's pretty famously unhealthy, too; overweight, famously addicted to fast food, struggling to drink water, barely being able to walk down a ramp. So, I don't think he has any particular great advantage over Biden in terms of health.Why the fuck are you planning on voting for someone whose not even sentient? Seriously, the dude is a walking corpse. And do you feel its fair he debates Trump, or stay in his basement?
Did you pay attention to the part I said about New York alone contributing quite a bit, because they completely botched their covid response? How about the fact that less than 600 deaths per million is still a relatively low death rate. You should also scroll over Peru, Chile, Spain, England, Italy, all of which have worse death rates than the United States acording to your own source. I would argue at least most of those are pretty developed countries. You also genuinely believe China only has 3.26 deaths per million? Something doesn't sound fishy there?
To me, climate change isn't because I feel its inevitable at this point in time. There are ways to slightly mitigate the effects, but that's not without hemorrhaging the economy (unless you count nuclear energy, but Dems don't like that). Once again, the US is doing better right now than nearly all of the countries still in the Paris Climate Accord, despite backing out of it (because, once again, it was a pretty bad treaty that doesn't really hold anyone, i.e. China, accountable). If you want to save the world here, the US can only do so much; you have bigger fish to fry when it comes to who is likely to make climate change significantly worse.But climate change is too big to simply "not worsen." Action needs to be taken, and now. Another four years of basically pretending it doesn't exist cannot happen, and there is a world of difference between the independent efforts of various states and a concentrated effort led by the President. Do you agree with that?
Really? I'm not saying Trump is a good public speaker (full disclosure he's fucking garbage), but at least the guy is freaking sentient. Have you watched virtually any of Biden's "rallies?" (If you can even call it that). I say this out of genuine concern, he is not with it, at all. Not to mention he's been pretty racist as of late (which I do not understand for the life of me why after a series of national protests, people are seriously tolerating that).That's funny, because Trump himself isn't too coherent, stumbling over his words and embarrassing himself in interviews left and right ("the US is lower than the world" lol). He's pretty famously unhealthy, too; overweight, famously addicted to fast food, struggling to drink water, barely being able to walk down a ramp. So, I don't think he has any particular great advantage over Biden in terms of health.
However, that's not the deciding factor. I'm no great fan of Joe Biden and don't love having to choose him at all, but given that Trump is a threat to US democracy (his descent into undisguised fascism is undeniable) and world safety as a whole, it's not even a choice. Oh, and Biden's VP is about a million times better than Mike Pence.
So glad to know your for precedent and that you're not biased in any way (because you and I both know that Biden will likely struggling getting a hold of himself in a debate setting let alone). It shouldn't be an issue if Trump tries to insult, because wouldn't it help poll numbers if you're perceived as the bigger person able to bite back? That's not an excuse to not debate. The American people deserve to hear from their candidates and how they compose themselves on certain hot issues.I don't care about any debates, either, given Trump's well-known disregard for facts and preference for name-calling. No amount of verbal bullying and humiliation (which is what a Trump debate is) will change anything about Trump's actions, and those are what's important.