Metal Sonic
Resurgence
If you need a 24 hour extension, just ask us, we'll grant it.
this seems like an oversimplification of what people actual think about this game but i guess it's not as unreasonable as i thought-_-
Yes, he was checked by Apricity. No, that doesn't mean he's lock town. Literally, the only thing it confirms is that Moody's role is what he claimed. That means practically nil in the grand scheme of him being town or not. Scum's already flipped a Cop and Neighborizer, is it really unbelievable that Moody's role could be scum? And no, I'm not ignoring the gamestate. I'm trying to figure out what the heck Moody is thinking so I can get an actual read on him and go from there. And I apologize that, apparently, I deserve to be scumread for trying to juggle a quickly-going mafia game where I just subbed in last day phase with the rest of my life while constantly being under a barrage of denouncements and calls for me to be lynched.
/rant
I honestly don't understand why you consider this all to be concrete proof of ~1/3rd of the game's alignment when it's very easy to, yknow, lie in a Mafia game.
nah I think aubisio and earlio are much more likely to be a contrast - ascetic only makes sense on town if mafia has a lot of roles and vice versaYeah as much as I find a mafia redirector to be coherent with the setup FH is probably town and Leet probably mafia goon here, it is unlikely that they are teammates
lynch hitmonleet
Gonna SR this if you actually doesnt make use of the extensionRequest extension please
That would be a godsend.
where do i learn how to post like you?How is a tree stump an animal
Yeah, now I at least got a general overview of the parts I missed, might still miss some small things, but I've read up quite a bit more now.I could care less about extend/no extend personally since im p set on who i want today. But extend pls since it'll help proph and hitmonleet will have had another day to stop whining about just being subbed in (btw you have had plenty of time to catch up by now Hitmonleet stop using that as an excuse/defense thx)
Yknow, this gives me a thought: If Aubisio is town, does this indirectly confirm the existence of a persuade, and not some trolling messenger? Tho iirc nobody claimed persuasion this cycle, so it would thus mean Knights was a trolling messenger, and so Aubisio makes literally no sense as Town, and would thus most likely be town, and as such, ought to be lynched. Maybe?nah I think aubisio and earlio are much more likely to be a contrast - ascetic only makes sense on town if mafia has a lot of roles and vice versa
Seriously, thank you for this. I never get told what I'm actually doing badly, and stuff like this honestly helps me improve a lot. I guess I just hedge a lot and play cautiously and reticently because, as town, I don't have much info, and I hate making a decision if I'm not sure of things. On the other hand, if I think I'm sure of things, I obsessively tunnel that belief, even if it turns out wrong. I'll try to step up and push things a bit more.this seems like an oversimplification of what people actual think about this game but i guess it's not as unreasonable as i thought
i dunno though at the same time you also don't really provide any interesting insights while saying a lot of words (Eg "scum's already flipped a cop and...could be scum" uhhhh yea that's all true but what we want to know is what you think is the case. are you telling me that's a reasonable thing to happen?" a lot of your posts are framed in a way that hedge a lot and while maybe it's a lot to ask for you to be more confident, i have to agree with proph that ur uncertainty doesn't come off very well and makes it seem like you are ignoring a lot of what is happening in this game.
Earlio was persuaded/messaged this cycle after I redirected Jalmont to him.Tho iirc nobody claimed persuasion this cycle, so it would thus mean Knights was a trolling messenger, and so Aubisio makes literally no sense as Town, and would thus most likely be town, and as such, ought to be lynched. Maybe?
Possibility that jalmont is persuade. Who were the users that claimed to be persuaded again?Earlio was persuaded/messaged this cycle after I redirected Jalmont to him.
Aubis:
Harno: -----
Earlo: -
Htmlt: ---
Jlmnt: ||-------
3P1K*: |||||---
FormH: |----
Moody: ||||---
Proph: |--
apric: -
Knights: -
Texas: ||||--
First relevant Xna post.XnadrojX said:Blazade lynch is honestly BS, like one player pokes at him a little, then suddenly everyone gets on, this wagon looks incredibly scumdriven to me, even if Hawkie is town one or more of the wagoners is definitely scum given this speed the wagon grew at.
Vote ThunderBALLZ
Especially this vote, user has posted 3 times this game, first 2 posts was "hi, I'm here and nothing interesting has happened" and the third post was just a "I want to sheep this wagon". Plus this wagon is already getting traction and I honestly think Blazade is town with the wagon formation.
Scumreading Asek because while all the shit is going on, they're having some personal 1v1 with Jalmont on an irrelevant topic that honestly doesn't warrant further discussion when there's more things to discuss.
Hawkie is probably town tunneling, but I'm not going to leave out the option that he's scum using his influence to push a lynch, although I'm willing to consider him town for now because I have no clue why he'd push Blazade > someone else.
This post also is a good look for Moody for being the first one to actually pressure Xnadroj.This post bothers me a bit, the bolded sounds like what any scum trying to direct the lynch onto people voting Blazade without going after Hawkie nor appearing to townread him too easily would say.
Like I don't really disagree with what they say but it looks somewhat like the aim here is to not draw Hawkie's aggro ?
Does he want his scumbuddy to be replaced?Torn between TBZ and Durza right now, hopefully Durza gets subbed but otherwise hopefully his next few prod dodging posts have content in them.
Is Haruno even here?
I don't know how I feel about Jalmont trying to discredit the XnadrojX case; Jalmont can you give me a little more info here as to why you did this? Did you think Xnadroj was town?Jalmont said:your case on xnadroj is just not a good one. it looks worse in comparison because you wrote a whole lot of words beforehand just to call most people town/you can't get a read on them. I can do the exact same thing too. Anyone can really.
The problem with this argument is that you effectively just gave a free pass to everyone you couldn't read. you're literally punishing someone who tried to engage with the game and using fairly whimsical reasoning at best to explain why he's mafia. your best reason is that this vote will give us info when i dont want info. so it's hard for me to believe you when you tell me this is your strongest scum read. I'm not trying to vote for who is going to give us the most info. I want to vote the person most likely to be mafia.
Moody is probably close to confirmed town at this point tbh from interactions unless the scum literally reverse bussed like they did last game.XnadrojX said:all right i see the whole of the past 2 pages has been Texas and Jalmont slinging shit at each other, but I don't think voting someone purely because their playstyle annoys you is better than voting a scumread.
I can't really say anything to defend myself from Texas, but while self-preservation is inherently more of a scum trait, some people as town (which I like to say includes me for the purpose of this defense) would place self-preservation as a beneficial trait to have when town as it lowers the PoE. The main argument on me is that I guess so yeah.
Back to real things, what are we going to do about Haruno and Durza?
I feel like I want to townread Jalmont for being so against the tide but then again it could be me being pocketed so.... I'd put him as town for now.
Vote MoodyCloud
Don't like that naked sheeping of Texas
This is a thing.Blazade said:I've been town leaning Jalmont and Xnadroj because I see them as engaged and your arguments for scum reading them are subtle enough that I'm gonna have to reread the game to engage with them properly.
This is Xnadroj's defense against EPIK. Not super sure what to think of it to be honest, I mean, points to EPIK for trying to CFD to Xnad in a way that doesn't ~seem like scum theater I guess?So uh you scumlean me for being self-preservative yet not being totally self-preservative? I mean pick one you're going to scumread me for, why would I be more avid in my defense if I was town compared to as if I was scum when Texas already showed that he views self-preservation as a scumtell and would prefer people to focus on each other? What does me hedging a TR on Jalmont (I TRed Texas too at that point as well btw) got to do with me being scum, and how was my vote weakly based?
Hey look, another "I know Blazade is town" indicator.XnadrojX said:I don't think Blazade just outright claims 2S Redirector as scum given that it's historically a scum role, and besides his few posts give me a town ping to them.
Feels like he's tryyying to reach for any mislynch before he dies?OK well there's been a lot of chatter going on but I still have no defense on my case since I've seen no one else apart from Texas provide a decent explanation (I'm not counting links to FH since pre-flip associations are flimsy at best).
There's been a lot of them but pretty much only MoodyCloud's and to an extent, Former Hope has had any real interesting content in their posts.
Saying that, Vote 3P1K.
Their posts rub me the wrong way, like they're fishing for favor from people without any real content they can be held accountable for. Lemme grab a few posts
Last post, first time he ever mentions Earlio.Well yeah I guess I'm the lynch now, and deadline is coming soon so....
I'm a Cop, Earlio and Jalmont are town.
no i was trying to protect my scumbuddy from being lynchedI don't know how I feel about Jalmont trying to discredit the XnadrojX case; Jalmont can you give me a little more info here as to why you did this? Did you think Xnadroj was town?
...Yknow, this gives me a thought: If Aubisio is town, does this indirectly confirm the existence of a persuade, and not some trolling messenger? Tho iirc nobody claimed persuasion this cycle, so it would thus mean Knights was a trolling messenger, and so Aubisio makes literally no sense as Town, and would thus most likely be town, and as such, ought to be lynched. Maybe?
Seriously,
i mean no problem i am always glad to give constructive improvement (although you should probably ask someone who is good at mafia instead...hehe). there's a balance between being uncertain, and obsessively tunneling. i'm not saying that balance is easy or anything. i personally think it's all about being confident in your reads while also being willing to entertain the thought that you are wrong, but not to that point where you just drop every opinion you have.thank you for this. I never get told what I'm actually doing badly, and stuff like this honestly helps me improve a lot. I guess I just hedge a lot and play cautiously and reticently because, as town, I don't have much info, and I hate making a decision if I'm not sure of things. On the other hand, if I think I'm sure of things, I obsessively tunnel that belief, even if it turns out wrong. I'll try to step up and push things a bit more.
sighAubisio what are your thoughts as to my theorizing about your role? If you disagree, then why? Do you think the "persuade" was/is real, or no?