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Kaxtar said:
Well, CAPs were designed to be very good in the first place. Remember, they are all top-tier competitive Pokemon. However, Rank 4 is not high given a +Special Attack nature. All you need is the correct nature and a Base 61 or higher stat. Almost all decent fully un-evolved Pokemon have one or more stats higher than 61, so the CAPs aren't outliers by any stretch of the word.
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Well, no wonder it's doing 20-30 damage a round to my Ralts!

Gotta get myself some of these CAPs...
 
shinyskarmory said:
Well, no wonder it's doing 20-30 damage a round to my Ralts!

Gotta get myself some of these CAPs...
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You also have to remember that Monohm has access to STAB moves that are also high in power. For example, say it uses Thunder - Hydro Pump - Thunder while Rain Dance is in effect.

Thunder deals (12 [BP] + 3 [STAB] + 3 [Stat Dif]) * 1 = 18 damage.
Hydro Pump deals (12 [BP] + 3 [Stat Dif] + 3 [Rain]) * 1 = 18 damage.

That's 54 damage in one round. So really, 20-30 damage isn't that much.
 
Does Destiny Bond do 30% of max health, or 30% of current health, or 30 HP? I think it would be 30% of max health, but I'm not sure.

Ok, cool.
 
Question:
How far are players allowed to run with the idea that they can strike themselves with their attacks to do something?
Example: Counter Shield
Also, the most ridiculous example imo is "Thunder Armor", where Pikachu strikes itself and the Swellow that it is riding with Thunder to increase Speed and Attack.
I'm not a ref, but if I were to become one and ref that, I would have Swellow at least take SE damage from the Thunder.
Side note: are you allowed to have one of your pokemon ride on the other?
 
Okay I have an example situation and a question to go with it

My opponenet orders before me in a double battle and says "If he uses Stone Edge, use Counter".

Would it be energy effecient to say shieldon 1 "use Stone Edge", and Shieldon 2 "use Protect Shieldon 1"?
 
Thunder Armor is ridiculous and lacks "Aim for the Horn!"'s troll appeal. Counter Shields...oddly enough, some of the tricks there look remotely possible, although all variants look able to be defeated with the right special attacks.

Yes, Dream World Pika can use LightningRod to Thunder itself, but otherwise...why the heck?
 
Is the following substitution valid, or is it too specific?

"If Camouflage would change me to a type that's not weak to Grass, Electric, or Ice, use Camouflage on action three."
 
LouisCyphre said:
Is the following substitution valid, or is it too specific?

"If Camouflage would change me to a type that's not weak to Grass, Electric, or Ice, use Camouflage on action three."
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I'm not positive, but I am pretty sure that is very illegal because it is so vague. I think you would have to give a specific type. Besides, Camouflage is:

"Camouflage: The Pokemon changes its body’s makeup to the type of its surroundings. Only a small amount of the terrain is required in order to shift, however the Pokemon must have a decent amount of the terrain substance to use.

Terrain: Type
Building: Normal
Cave: Rock
Desert: Ground
Grass: Grass
Mountain: Rock
Ocean: Water
Pond: Water
Road: Ground
Snow: Ice"
 
Plus, the way you phrase it makes it sound like you only want to use Camouflage on action 3 if using Camouflage on action 3 would have the effect you want. That kind of substitution is illegal anyway since you can't know what Camouflage changes your type to until you use it.
 
LouisCyphre said:
"If Camouflage would change me to a type that's not weak to Grass, Electric, or Ice, use Camouflage on action three."
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This substitution is illegal because there's no way for your Pokemon to know, but Athenodoros is correct in what he says. The effects of moves like Nature Power, Secret Power, and Camouflage are arena-dependent and thus are predictable. A player can ask the ref and he has every responsibility to respond with what type of arena the current one is.
 
Can I use HP draining moves like Mega Drain to drain energy instead?

It wouldn't cause HP damage, just use their energy to restore mine.

EDIT: (responding to Woodchuck)
Woodchuck said:
Question:
How far are players allowed to run with the idea that they can strike themselves with their attacks to do something?
Example: Counter Shield
Also, the most ridiculous example imo is "Thunder Armor", where Pikachu strikes itself and the Swellow that it is riding with Thunder to increase Speed and Attack.
I'm not a ref, but if I were to become one and ref that, I would have Swellow at least take SE damage from the Thunder.
Side note: are you allowed to have one of your pokemon ride on the other?
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I'm not a ref either, but the counter shield looks like it would have to be a continous combo, which means it's impossible in ASB.

The thunder armor (I saw that episode, LOL) looks more reasonable, but Swellow would have to take super-effective STAB damage from the Thunder, and you couldn't become temporarily "GODLIKE" like the pair became in the episode.
 
Leethoof said:
Okay I have an example situation and a question to go with it

My opponenet orders before me in a double battle and says "If Shieldon 1 uses Stone Edge, use Counter".

Would it be energy effecient to say shieldon 1 "use Stone Edge", and Shieldon 2 "use Protect on Shieldon 1"?
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This seems to have been passed over.

Also, how do I kill fast diggers with team bastiodon? (where everybody is 4x ground weak)?
 
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