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To reply to my own question from above, I found the document, globals.ts, which contains the info I asked. There are the categories, including also D for Dream World, and V for Virtual Console that I didn't mention.

Nevertheless I'd like to know, as sumwun asked why these 4 moves are classified as such when there seem to be no need for chain breeding for them?

And more generally:
1) what's the point anyway of storing the fact that it is chain bred and not just bred? (Because they can give the move to a child anyway)?
2) it seems odd to me that those would be the only 4 moves you can only obtain through chain breeding, so there should be others classified as such no?
Tagging The Immortal as suggested above.
 

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Pretty sure he meant tag me for the Random Battle question. Well it was arbitrary in the beginning but through experience and modifying it over generations, we ended up with these, which are meant to be balanced.
 
Sorry about that :) well at least the other question got answered!
I saw you were the second biggest contributor to Showdown on the GitHub, so that's why I assumed there'd be a chance you'd know the answer to the chain breeding tag thingy, but I guess everyone has their specific areas where they're good in so I'll wait for someone else to answer that other question :)
 
How are these moves requiring chain breeding? Machamp can know bullet punch from Hitmonchan. Gliscor can know baton pass from Ledyba, Ninjask, and Scolipede. Masquerain can know hydro pump from a lot of possible parents.
Which is as I said: the father doesn't directly learn the move. It needs to be bred on to the father, and then on to the egg. Thus it's a chain...
Hitmonchan can learn mach punch by level up.
While it's true that Hitmonchan learns Mach Punch by level up in Gen 7, this is no use when you're validating battles in previous gens.
 
Which is as I said: the father doesn't directly learn the move. It needs to be bred on to the father, and then on to the egg. Thus it's a chain...
Hitmonchan directly learns bullet punch and can be Machop's father. Ledyba, Ninjask, and Scolipede can directly learn baton pass and be Gligar's father.
 
Which is as I said: the father doesn't directly learn the move. It needs to be bred on to the father, and then on to the egg. Thus it's a chain...
Notwithstanding the point of sumwun , I still may be missing something but as I also asked: what is the purpose of storing it in the 'C' category instead of just 'E' (egg move)? Maybe a concrete example? (Does it have to do with team-validator.js? Some moves would go through that shouldn't?)

And also then, IF there is a purpose in that, then there should be other moves classified as such no? Because it seems to me that there aren't only 4 moves across 7 generations that require chain breeding.
 
Hitmonchan directly learns bullet punch and can be Machop's father. Ledyba, Ninjask, and Scolipede can directly learn baton pass and be Gligar's father.
We know Machamp and Glisor can obtain the moves through evolving from a prevo with the egg move. That's not the issue that 'C' is intended to solve.
IF there is a purpose in that, then there should be other moves classified as such no? Because it seems to me that there aren't only 4 moves across 7 generations that require chain breeding.
Unfortunately the log doesn't give an example except to say that they're a workaround to avoid a complicated chain breeding algorithm. Note that the simple algorithm already handles the case when Gligar is the father, so I assume there was some specific edge case that needed Gliscor to be the father.
 
In a group chat, after 40 minutes of inactivity it self-destructs. What exactly determines inactivity? If no one has posted a message in 40 minutes but in that span someone voted in a poll would that poll vote refresh the timer? Asking because in my group chat the other day over 40 minutes passed but the room didn't destroy itself
. I had a poll up so maybe someone voted in the poll which then reset the timer but I'm not positive if that was the case so if anyone can cure my curiosity that'd be great.
 

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In a group chat, after 40 minutes of inactivity it self-destructs. What exactly determines inactivity? If no one has posted a message in 40 minutes but in that span someone voted in a poll would that poll vote refresh the timer? Asking because in my group chat the other day over 40 minutes passed but the room didn't destroy itself
. I had a poll up so maybe someone voted in the poll which then reset the timer but I'm not positive if that was the case so if anyone can cure my curiosity that'd be great.
Last message in the room. Sometimes the timer screws up and it dosen't expire, which is fixed the moment anyone says anything, which is probably what happened.

Would it be possible to make it show how many hours until the lock expires when there's less than a day left instead if it just saying "expires soon"?
We do this because locks are not on a javascript timer like mutes. The locked user needs to /logout or leave PS for an hour or two and come back after their lock is expired. (so their user object expires and they dont get relocked on thier new one). If we show the exact time (like in the past) we get people who complain and demand we /unlock them on the dot, which we are not allowed to since the unlock shows in modlog (basically it makes it seem like they were pardoned when they we not).
 

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That's not what I'm talking about. I mean I'll be PMing someone, then after a couple messages the messages just don't go through. It doesn't even say they're blocking PMs or anything and they're still online. I'm pretty sure it's either a mod blocking/disabling my ability to PM or a new locked feature.
Do you mean the messages wont send or even appear when you type them? Not sure why if thats the reason.
If you mean the recipient isn't getting the message, possibly they ignored you with the /ignore command? Theres nothing else that would prevent that.
 

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That's not what I'm talking about. I mean I'll be PMing someone, then after a couple messages the messages just don't go through. It doesn't even say they're blocking PMs or anything and they're still online. I'm pretty sure it's either a mod blocking/disabling my ability to PM or a new locked feature.
That’s most likely something that’s happening on your end, the only time you won’t be able to PM anyone else is you’re locked or you/ the user you’re trying to message have blocked their PMs.
 
I've been trying to find an answer to my problem.

I'm trying to work from my office, no option to use proxy. So I want to host a server with my own website, which I already know how to implement, however, in the files, I can't seem to find the option to modify the HTML tags to avoid the proxy getting the details as GAMES to avoid the block.

How can I modify the HTML of the index or main pages for the website hosted on my server?

Thanks
 

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I've been trying to find an answer to my problem.

I'm trying to work from my office, no option to use proxy. So I want to host a server with my own website, which I already know how to implement, however, in the files, I can't seem to find the option to modify the HTML tags to avoid the proxy getting the details as GAMES to avoid the block.

How can I modify the HTML of the index or main pages for the website hosted on my server?

Thanks
That would be client side, so you cant edit that without a custom client.
 

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Hi even though spoiler: is ban-worded in lobby people can still use it. Is there a fix for this? Before it used to work fine but ever since the room delete thing it doesn't seem to work and people have been bypassing it and it's been causing issues.
 
Hey

I played a lot in this randomise meta mode but i see that some pokemon forms are missing from that. Before S/M came out it was possible to draw Therian forms of Thundurus, Tornadus and Landorus but now when its [Gen 7] Challange Cup 1v1 this forms are missing. Why ? They are banned now ?

Also there is a problem with Oricorio forms. I played like 5k+ matches and draw only Baile Style form always. So where are Pom-Pom, Pa'u and Sensu ?

It's really weird. I thought that in this mode you can draw anything and in 6th gen that was it.

Please fix it if possible. Unless they are just banned ;( Stange. Rest forms and items are possible to draw...
 

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I played a lot in this randomise meta mode but i see that some pokemon forms are missing from that. Before S/M came out it was possible to draw Therian forms of Thundurus, Tornadus and Landorus but now when its [Gen 7] Challange Cup 1v1 this forms are missing. Why ? They are banned now ?

Also there is a problem with Oricorio forms. I played like 5k+ matches and draw only Baile Style form always. So where are Pom-Pom, Pa'u and Sensu ?

It's really weird. I thought that in this mode you can draw anything and in 6th gen that was it.

Please fix it if possible. Unless they are just banned ;( Stange. Rest forms and items are possible to draw...
while i can't check the code right now (and there are probably a lot of people able to do that better than me) it just looks like you've been unlucky
 
while i can't check the code right now (and there are probably a lot of people able to do that better than me) it just looks like you've been unlucky
Not only me. Enemies also always draw Baile style and like i said Therian forms never seen in gen 7 version of Challenge Cup 1v1. This must be some issue with that Oricorio's but im not sure what's the deal with Forces of Nature trio. Therian forms were available in gen 6 version more than year ago

Also I realized that 10% forme of Zygarde is missing. You can roll 50% form and that default form for this mode. Perfect forme is possible only when you draw ''Power Construct'' ability. Im pretty sure that at the beginning of testing gen 7 it was possible to draw all Zygarde forms
 
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Hey

I played a lot in this randomise meta mode but i see that some pokemon forms are missing from that. Before S/M came out it was possible to draw Therian forms of Thundurus, Tornadus and Landorus but now when its [Gen 7] Challange Cup 1v1 this forms are missing. Why ? They are banned now ?

Also there is a problem with Oricorio forms. I played like 5k+ matches and draw only Baile Style form always. So where are Pom-Pom, Pa'u and Sensu ?

It's really weird. I thought that in this mode you can draw anything and in 6th gen that was it.

Please fix it if possible. Unless they are just banned ;( Stange. Rest forms and items are possible to draw...
Nothing has changed, the generator picks 6 random unique pokemon (this means that you cant have 2 oricorio with different formes).
 
Nothing has changed, the generator picks 6 random unique pokemon (this means that you cant have 2 oricorio with different formes).
So how does it work with Kyurem case ? You can now draw default Kyurem, Black Kyurem and White Kyurem. Also different Wormadam and Rotom formes so what you say doesn't make sense. Why with Oricorio would be different ?

I don't mean 2 different Oricorio's in one match. I mean general. Only Baile style you can draw... Never saw rest of them.
 

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So how does it work with Kyurem case ? You can now draw default Kyurem, Black Kyurem and White Kyurem. Also different Wormadam and Rotom formes so what you say doesn't make sense. Why with Oricorio would be different ?

I don't mean 2 different Oricorio's in one match. I mean general. Only Baile style you can draw... Never saw rest of them.
Theres 3 kyruem formes, only 1 can appear on any given team, and for the rest you mentioned.

You just have bad luck, nothing has changed.
 
Theres 3 kyruem formes, only 1 can appear on any given team, and for the rest you mentioned.

You just have bad luck, nothing has changed.
Very, very strange. I draw a lot of times all of Rotom and Wormadam forms for example but Oricorio ? Only Baile and like i said not only in my team. Enemies also have only Baile. You say that nothing has changed but It's not about changes things but add things. Maybe when you add 7 gen pokemon you only add this one form to the generator ? I been watching it for a long time. This Oricorio case. I Think its some bug. Check if you can for peace of mind.

And what about other things i said ? Therian forms for Forces of Nature trio in 6th gen version were often drawn. You can draw normal and Therian form then. Now only normal. Whole year of playing and never saw it. 5k+ or even more matches. You maybe change some or ban them.
 

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