That is actually a really good point. I don't know if it's been tested, but in theory shell bell is something to look into if it got any sort of buff(who uses that item except Aron?).Does Sitrus Berry activate right on 50% or when you dip below 50? If it's the former then I think it's definitely the item of choice on the drummer. I don't think Mystic Water or Life Orb makes up for being unable to be revenged by Scizor or Talonflame imo.
Many Scizor have not run any Speed EVs in Gen V, so if that doesn't change Azumarill can put 124 EVs into Speed to OHKO Scizor with a +6 Aqua Jet before it lands a second Bullet PunchScizor's bullet punch is super effective against fairy type, even with priority aqua jet scizor outspeeds azumarill and will land 2 hits even if Azumarill doesnt belly drum. My question is there an EV spread that will allow Azumarill to take these hits and reply with a superpower?
Also can anyone confirm whether or not sitrus berry will activate when belly drum is used? Seems to be a common question that I have as well
According to the page on smogon here it says 'Sitrus Berry Restores the HP of the holder by 25% of its max HP when at 50% HP or less.' I'm just not sure if it can be exactly 50%, or has to be less.Many Scizor have not run any Speed EVs in Gen V, so if that doesn't change Azumarill can put 124 EVs into Speed to OHKO Scizor with a +6 Aqua Jet before it lands a second Bullet Punch
And unless it was changed, Sitrus Berry would activate at 25% HP. Gluttony allows it to be used at 50% HP
252+ Atk Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 128 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 130-154 (34.85 - 41.28%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth RockAlso if Azumarill is at +6 attack that means it would have belly drummed, and on that turn scizor will have already used a bullet punch, meaning that Azumarill cannot take a bullet punch and Belly Drum on the same turn I'm pretty sure. You're right though, that if scizor were to be switched into azumarill and azumarill has the 124 speed EV's then it would land the aqua jet. Would it be a OHKO though? Scizor is pretty beefy
I'm guessing you forgot to include Azumarill's Fairy typing to the equation, so all damage received would be doubled right? So with life orb, and minimal speed investment on scizor, azumarill is pooched. Choice band scyther would be a OHKO :(252+ Atk Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 128 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 130-154 (34.85 - 41.28%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Iron Plate Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 128 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 156-184 (41.82 - 49.32%) -- 28.13% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Life Orb Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 128 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 169-200 (45.3 - 53.61%) -- 94.92% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Choice Band Technician Scizor Bullet Punch vs. 128 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 195-229 (52.27 - 61.39%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
Scizor needs Iron Plate and full Attack investment to even consider the possibility of not allowing Azumarill to Belly Drum. If it has to switch in or it lacks a boosting item... good luck with that
+6 252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Scizor: 318-375 (92.44 - 109.01%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
+6 252+ Atk Mystic Water Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Scizor: 381-448 (110.75 - 130.23%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Whoa this is news to me!! Belly Drum Azumarill really is crazy good, only weak to poison, grass, and electric. It's probably worth those extra speed EV's to outspeed scyther hey? I'm guessing that is why you used 128 hp, to account for that? Thanks for doing these calc's,they help a lot.Actually not :P
I made Azumarill Water/Rock to make Steel neutral
Waterfall actually OHKOes Ferrothorn at +6 after SR and 1 layer of Spikes, so after SR and just a tad bit of extra residual damage, Ferrothorn is easily OHKOed by Waterfall, so there's not much of a reason to ever run Superpower TBH. Besides, you can just pair it with something like Magnezone or a Spiker to guarantee that OHKO no problem. Superpower is really only a last resort move on teams that have no other means of disposing Ferrothorn properly before Azumarill can sweep, because otherwise Waterfall is better for other bulky Steel-types like Skarmory and Forretress, without having to use Superpower.Superpower is probably a bad idea on a boosting set. The more Azumarill uses it, the harder of a time it has OHKOing with Aqua Jet.
Water resists steel, thus Bullet Punch is neutral on Azumarill.Scizor's bullet punch is super effective against fairy type, even with priority aqua jet scizor outspeeds azumarill and will land 2 hits even if Azumarill doesnt belly drum. My question is there an EV spread that will allow Azumarill to take these hits and reply with a superpower?
Also can anyone confirm whether or not sitrus berry will activate when belly drum is used? Seems to be a common question that I have as well
252 SpA Alakazam Energy Ball (90 BP) vs. +1 252 HP / 0 SpD Azumarill: 162-192 (40.09 - 47.52%) -- guaranteed 3HKOhave we talked about the how much damage azu would take from energy ball from zam while wearing tac vest?
ah thank you for the correction.... I don't know where that cane from. But a there hit k.o. Is way more than enough to handle handle zam. I still do not think it is better than mystic water tho... But then again it depends on what your playing252 SpA Alakazam Energy Ball (90 BP) vs. +1 252 HP / 0 SpD Azumarill: 162-192 (40.09 - 47.52%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
By the way, it's "Assault Vest", not "Tactical Vest".
You don't actually need Superpower :PMy perfect Marill hatched today, Adamant with 31IVs in the six stats. (and Huge Power ofc)
At the moment, he's lvl56 and I start to play with him with that set:
Azumarill@Splash Plate
Adamant
132HP/252Atk/124Speed
-Belly drum
-Aqua-Jet
-Rough Play
-Superpower
That's really cool when I have to use Aqua-Jet or Rough Play but it don't work well when I have to use Superpower.
What can I use instead of that move? Must I choose Waterfall?