Anyone notice that most pokemon in GEN 5 are mean and "dark-ish" therefore has high offensive stats.
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Base Stats of New Pokemon
- Thread starter yiran
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I'm extremely disappointed by the starters... but this guy:
#566Aaken (Lv. 37 -->)
#567Aakeosu
Rock/Flying
"Weak-kneed"
HP: 75
Atk: 140
Def: 65
SpA: 112
SpD: 65
Spe: 110
OH GOD YES!!! Aerodactyl on steroids, a lot of steroids. 567 BST if those are correct, would be the highest of all non legendary/pseudo legendary so far, even higher than Arcanine. But what is that ability, I don't see it on serebii.
#566Aaken (Lv. 37 -->)
#567Aakeosu
Rock/Flying
"Weak-kneed"
HP: 75
Atk: 140
Def: 65
SpA: 112
SpD: 65
Spe: 110
OH GOD YES!!! Aerodactyl on steroids, a lot of steroids. 567 BST if those are correct, would be the highest of all non legendary/pseudo legendary so far, even higher than Arcanine. But what is that ability, I don't see it on serebii.
Yeah, but there are like, +10 Pokemon with a base 140 Attack or SpA stat up there that aren't legendary. How many do we have of those? Slaking and Rampardos, and maybe Azumarill and Medicham. I can understand base 130 anything, but base 140 is kind of pushing it if it isn't a defense stat.
Do you know why Garchomp was broken? Yache Berry was a large part of that. Haban Berry could be a large part of his strategy as well... if they even have the type-resisting berries anymore.
dragon dance or choic scarf fix speed. Base 140 attack is insane, combined with the probable giant move pool dragons get.
147 Base Attack + Dragon Dance + Mold Breaker = Rape.
147 BASE ATTACK + Swordsdance + Outrage = *trollface*
both mean the same..but hey comon its not like that we raraly have seen ScarfChomp or Mence as Checks in DP...and Ononokosus Defensive Stats are also not that impressive that he can easily be switch in... ok 140 Base Attack is a point but any
Scarfer , specially dragon>It and he is imo too fragile to set up a + 2 Dragon Dance without getting hurt..
he is good but even not so good as chomp if chomp would play in OU without Restrictions. (so also + sandsturm ability)
Am I the only one who noticed how late some of these pokemon evolve? There's quite a bit who don't evolve until the late 40s, 50s, and even 60s!
Serebii confirmed these stats. They're real.
#637Urugamosu
Bug/Fire
Flame Body
HP: 85
Atk: 60
Def: 65
SpA: 135
SpD: 105
Spe: 100
This guy seems pretty good except Stealth Rock.
Bug/Fire
Flame Body
HP: 85
Atk: 60
Def: 65
SpA: 135
SpD: 105
Spe: 100
This guy seems pretty good except Stealth Rock.
All of the Starters seem lame. Smugleaf is trying to do too much at once, Wotter's is a bit slow but might be a viable mixed attacker, and Pignition's is going to be fighting heavily against Infernape, speed vs. survivability. Too bad it has a crappy defensive typing.
Musharna is interesting. Incredibly slow, but bulky and strong. Synchronize is pretty cool, too.
Zeburaika will be cool but overhyped. 75/63/63 defenses aren't that great, you have few resist/immunities and Wild Bolt sounds like it works off Special Attack(Confirm?), which is only 80. Even if Wild Bolt is physical, the rest of the movepool might not be good enough to carry somewhat averagely.
Hahakomori on Sunny Day teams?
Basrao seems interesting...
Hihidaruma will be overrated. I predict it'll be the next Electivire.
Shinboraa is interesting. 72/80/80 defenses are nothing to write home about, but 97 goes past Base 95s and 103 Sp. ATK ain't bad. More importantly, all this and Magic Guard!
Zoroark is vaguely dissapointing. Wish he had just a little more defense...
Chillarmy's evo seems interesting. 75/60/60 defenses aren't that good, but 115 Speed, decent attack and Technician! I hope it gets U-Turn.
Gochiruzeru seems like Gardevoir, but Frisk is nice. I'm definately gonna get one.
Emonga lolz.
Shubarugo seems good to me. 20 base Speed is horrible, but 70/105/105 defenses are good and Base 135 ATK. Also, possibly Bullet Punch, U-Turn, etc.
Mamanbou sucks. 45 Special Defense is too little and it's HP isn't high enough to pull a Blissey. Also weak to a lot of more common Special Moves(coughThunderboltcough)
Burunkeru is interesting with Water Asborb.
Denchura is nothing to write home about, but could it be a good UU? 108 Base Speed is nice and Bug/Electric is a good offensive typing.
Shibirudon, oh man, another Pokemon that I think has no weaknesses. 85/80/80 defenses aren't bad, either. And it has mixed attacking stats. So zetta slow, though...
Shanderaa is kinda scary.
Ononokusu kind of scares me. Not only Dragon Dance + Mold Breaker, but what about Rivalry + Choice Scarf? No setup, similar effect, can also revenge kill. The fact it's PURE Dragon is also nice.
Kojondo seems neat. Does anyone know what Regeneration does?
Kurimugan....is it odd Rough Skin interests me here?
Sazando...is this Ubers? If not, it scares me more than Ononokusu, honestly.
Birijion seems good. 91/72/129 give it good defensive stats, but it also has nice 90/90 attacking stats and 108 Speed. It'll be interesting to see where it goes.
Seems like people are overeacting to me, but then again since the meta isn't out this is unsurprising...
"Geez, this makes me wonder how many pre-Gen V Pokemon will even be worth using anymore. "
Really?
Musharna is interesting. Incredibly slow, but bulky and strong. Synchronize is pretty cool, too.
Zeburaika will be cool but overhyped. 75/63/63 defenses aren't that great, you have few resist/immunities and Wild Bolt sounds like it works off Special Attack(Confirm?), which is only 80. Even if Wild Bolt is physical, the rest of the movepool might not be good enough to carry somewhat averagely.
Hahakomori on Sunny Day teams?
Basrao seems interesting...
Hihidaruma will be overrated. I predict it'll be the next Electivire.
Shinboraa is interesting. 72/80/80 defenses are nothing to write home about, but 97 goes past Base 95s and 103 Sp. ATK ain't bad. More importantly, all this and Magic Guard!
Zoroark is vaguely dissapointing. Wish he had just a little more defense...
Chillarmy's evo seems interesting. 75/60/60 defenses aren't that good, but 115 Speed, decent attack and Technician! I hope it gets U-Turn.
Gochiruzeru seems like Gardevoir, but Frisk is nice. I'm definately gonna get one.
Emonga lolz.
Shubarugo seems good to me. 20 base Speed is horrible, but 70/105/105 defenses are good and Base 135 ATK. Also, possibly Bullet Punch, U-Turn, etc.
Mamanbou sucks. 45 Special Defense is too little and it's HP isn't high enough to pull a Blissey. Also weak to a lot of more common Special Moves(coughThunderboltcough)
Burunkeru is interesting with Water Asborb.
Denchura is nothing to write home about, but could it be a good UU? 108 Base Speed is nice and Bug/Electric is a good offensive typing.
Shibirudon, oh man, another Pokemon that I think has no weaknesses. 85/80/80 defenses aren't bad, either. And it has mixed attacking stats. So zetta slow, though...
Shanderaa is kinda scary.
Ononokusu kind of scares me. Not only Dragon Dance + Mold Breaker, but what about Rivalry + Choice Scarf? No setup, similar effect, can also revenge kill. The fact it's PURE Dragon is also nice.
Kojondo seems neat. Does anyone know what Regeneration does?
Kurimugan....is it odd Rough Skin interests me here?
Sazando...is this Ubers? If not, it scares me more than Ononokusu, honestly.
Birijion seems good. 91/72/129 give it good defensive stats, but it also has nice 90/90 attacking stats and 108 Speed. It'll be interesting to see where it goes.
Seems like people are overeacting to me, but then again since the meta isn't out this is unsurprising...
"Geez, this makes me wonder how many pre-Gen V Pokemon will even be worth using anymore. "
Really?
Higher HP, slightly higher Attack, and everything else is lower. Blaziken > Pokabu3.#500 Emboar
110 123 65 100 65 65Isn't that just Blaziken with higher HP?
I'm kinda sad that I promised to start with Tsujarta, what crappy attacking stats. I don't need a defensive starter!
And Tsutaja may actually have some use with Growth in its set. The bulky defenses coupled with its speed could let it easily set up - I wonder what type of movepool it will get.