Book Club

Crux

Banned deucer.
jumpluff and I were thinking about starting a Book Discussion Club on Smogon, since most people here are highly literate and the two of us are avid readers. The idea is that, once a month I will post a new book and we will read and discuss it over that month period. Feel free to post your likes / dislikes comments on author expression, characterisation or technique or whatever strikes your fancy.

The book for the first sitting of Smogon's Book Club is:

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Click here for a really good summary that will pique your interest!

http://www.mediafire.com/?e7omjdiw9cxj067 epub http://www.mediafire.com/view/?l8x4zlba31hlxg0 pdf

http://calibre-ebook.com/
If you want you can download this because it is better than .pdf

Please keep spoilers in hide tags, because people will read at different paces!
 
I read the summary, and it certainly did peak my interest - i'll go download the epub file of this book, so I can read it on my nook :3. I'm expecting a good read!

How are you gonna handle spoilers? Hide tags i suppose
 
i read this book when i was like 14 and i remember it being really poignant although a lot of that had to with hormones probably lol.

regardless, i still think it's a highly enjoyable book with an engaging storyline. i'll chip in to discuss this when you guys start progressing, enjoy =]
 
is there any way i can read this on my gnex? i've never really messed with ebooks before. i've been looking at getting a cheap base model kindle because books can be hard to find in my town, but i'd like to wait to my birthday or something for that.
 
is there any way i can read this on my gnex? i've never really messed with ebooks before. i've been looking at getting a cheap base model kindle because books can be hard to find in my town, but i'd like to wait to my birthday or something for that.

I don't own an Android device, but Google turned up this thread. Calibre can convert ebooks between a large variety of conventional formats, or I can give you a .mobi if you need one. Look around for good ereader apps, of course. :)

I've actually never read this book, but I plan to get started tomorrow.
 
Why not talk about this book and concentrate on making this thread successful before worrying about the next book (at this stage, anyway)? :)
 
So far I've only gotten through chapter 7. For the e-book version, this is through page 33. I'm probably not spoiling anything yet, but just in case...

There have been a number of places mentioned that I had trouble picturing. I did a bit of searching and I've started to turn up a few places that may be significant. I've posted a few of the one's I've found. If anyone's interested, I can post some more in a later update, once I'm further along.

The narrow lane where the Cemetery of Forgotten Books may be hidden.
La Rambla, a (major?) pedestrian only street. The narrow lane branches off from this road.
Calle Santa Ana, where Daniel lives with his father above their bookstore.
Montjuic Cemetery, where Daniel's mother is buried.

As far as the book, I'm still mostly in the introduction, so I'm unsure what to say about the plot yet. I'm hoping to see a lot more of the Cemetery of Forgotten Books though!

As a side note, I really enjoyed this line: "The Ateneo was - and remains - one of the many places in Barcelona where the nineteenth century has not yet been served its eviction notice."

I'm hoping that whoever checked this book out from the library returns it soon. I'd really like to read it on paper.
 
While I am busy at the moment, this book club is something that I could see myself contributing to in the future. So don't let this die after a single book!
 
Hmm I like book discussions, although thanks to school the only books I have time to read are the set texts. Still, expect to see me post every now and again.
 
this is a really cool idea, probably going to start this in the next couple days or something

also if you're looking for a good ereader app on android, i'd suggest either Nook or Kobo, either work just fine
 
If you guys are looking for some live discussion, you can join jumpluff and myself in #warau.
 
I finished today! How are you guys going? I hope you'll all be joining me~ I thought this was a wonderful book (gave it a 5* on goodreads, what an honour), one I wholly enjoyed -- I have a high tolerance and can find enjoyment in almost anything, but it's rare I actually get so unreservedly captured by a book. Since I'm so tired (stayed up reading) I don't have time to write everything I thought while reading it, but:

I'll be honest, some of the things that were played straight in this book, had they been executed more poorly, probably would have made me roll my eyes, but they didn't; instead, I just found my heart beating really fast. It's a very melodramatic book, but more than the sum of its parts; it's written so evocatively and most of the characters are well-crafted, lively, and sympathetic in their imperfection. There are only a few truly consistently good characters who actually do anything, in my opinion, if any, and yet I found myself forgiving them mostly, especially since, again, they were really sympathetic.

When I said I wholly enjoyed this I was kinda lying: there was something that abstractly bothered me, but it didn't detract from my enjoyment so I was only kinda lying!! The first is the denouement. Nuria's manuscript is heartwrenching to read, but in a way it kind of utterly destroys the pace of the plot -- not the book itself, because the part itself is still really good, but in that it's almost an anticlimax.

In the end, Daniel and Julián were only drawn together by an extended series of coincidences, which isn't actually a problem; it's actually kind of beautiful, and I think if there had been something more tying them together it could've been, oddly enough, 'too easy'. It might've been the final straw that actually broke my suspension of disbelief, especially after the whole Penélope and Julián incest thing (which just broke my heart, really...). But it does end up very unfortunate in that, after the whole book is a careful unravelling of part of the mystery, the answers are all text-dumped at you in a sudden rush, in about as many pages as it took you to learn the simple fact that Nuria was lying about Miquel. That there's really nothing at all left for you; Nuria held nothing back. But like I said, it somehow didn't detract from my enjoyment, even though I found myself questioning it; it was still so well-done and led up to the ending scene so perfectly that it didn't bother me at all. Ultimately, enjoying the book the way it is, I find it doesn't matter.

I think the worst thing for me was Miquel suddenly turning violent towards Nuria and her blaming herself because of her feelings towards Julián, because I hated seeing that happen to Nuria and also because it was so uncomfortable, but then people who are kind and peaceful do terrible things all the time, as unpleasant to realise as it is. Plus, as the book itself reminds you many times, it was very very common then and looked upon as a necessary evil by some (just as it is common now, but I digress)...

One thing I wish had been explained more was the Cemetary of Lost Books, but I'm actually really glad it wasn't, because it didn't really need explaining for narrative reasons, and it certainly retained its mystery and allure without the explanation. It's just that such a place, well, as an ardent reader myself I found myself longing for it, and in a book that makes such beautiful use of multiple bookends, you end up finding yourself inevitably drawn there anyway.

I think this book will linger with me. Memory, nostalgia, loneliness, regret, parental alienation, literary parallels... all things I totally eat up. I do admittedly think there are some who might just take this book as it is and see it as too clichéd, flowery, melodramatic, self-indulgent, badly structured (mainly the problem with Nuria's letter), etc.; there's always a risk with some of the elements that have been used, and some people just plain don't like Gothic fiction, I guess. As I said, I would disagree; I reiterate that it's more than a sum of its parts, and I find that it's mesmerising from the start.

Some of you might find this book a bit long or dense, but persevere, seriously. It gripped me right up. Would definitely recommend!
 
lol it's funny how not a single spaniard has posted here...

anyway i read this book a long time ago, and I feel that living in (or visiting) spain kinda makes you enjoy the story more.
 
How the hell did you all made a ebook thread without looking like a spam bot? I made a topic promoting similar to this and people thought I was a spam bot, after that, the topic was deleted. Man, this is some unfair s***. Seriously, how do you two do this s***?

Well, I wish I could participate.
 
Just checked out the book from the local library, I guess that means I'm in.

I'll post again when I finish it because I read interesting books really fast.
 
Wow, nobody posted in between?

That being said, this was a really meaningful book for me. I saw a lot of myself in Daniel, because he and I are alike in a lot of ways even if we're living in completely different environments. We're both bookish teenagers chasing after women we can never have (this is a massive overgeneralization but it's as close as I can get).

To start with, I saw a lot of my own life in Daniel's unsuccessful relationship with Clara. I had an experience with a rather unearthly girl of my own, and although it didn't end with me walking in on her having sex with someone else like Daniel+Clara did, it did end with her breaking up with me for "someone she wanted to spend the rest of her life with" and then breaking up with that guy 6 months later, only to find that I didn't want any part of her anymore. I admit I cheered when Fermin talked about how "everyone had their own Clara".

The story in general really started slowly. It took a really long time for the plot threads involving Fermin, Julian, Fumero, and Daniel to start working well together and feeling like one story. But once they did (around the point when Daniel starts talking to Nuria/Fermin goes into hiding), the story was really moving well and making me think. I think the book could have been better if the author had spaced out Nuria's letter/journal over a longer period of time in the book, because like Jumpluff said it's just a massive info dump right at a crucial point in the story when I could really care less about Julian Carax because all I want to do is find out what happened to Bea and Fermin.

The flashback to Julian and Penelope's love affair was really dark, to the point of being difficult to read for me. Even after being told his daughter was pregnant without his knowledge, it still seems kind of ridiculous for him to lock her in a room for all nine months, then block the door while she screams for help. Shame of the incest unknowingly committed by Julian with Penelope isn't a legitimate excuse for Ricardo Aldaya to literally blot out his own daughter's cries for help. Instead, I find it easier to think that Ricardo wanted his daughter gone, but decided to allow her to die an easily preventable death during childbirth instead of pulling the trigger himself, like Penelope's other lover Fumero proved himself willing to do many times over.

Following Fumero's death at the hands of Julian Carax (who, it should be mentioned, had a very Harvey Dent-like recovery from his burns while in his Lain Coubert persona), the story seems to resolve itself a little too neatly. I find it hard to believe that Bea's father would acquiesce so neatly to Daniel's marriage proposal after beating the shit out of him just days earlier, when earlier in the book we saw an example of how another father was willing to hold a grudge for nine months and another character was willing to doggedly pursue Julian for over thirty years.

That being said, this book definitely made me think. I really appreciate Crux and Jumpluff's effort in creating this thread, and I hope we can keep it alive. I never would have picked up this book without the thread, and I certainly don't regret it.
 
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