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butts and breasts

girly parts

  • butt

    Votes: 66 30.6%
  • boob

    Votes: 73 33.8%
  • legs

    Votes: 40 18.5%
  • stomach

    Votes: 10 4.6%
  • other

    Votes: 27 12.5%

  • Total voters
    216
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as this is a very very serious issue i did not feel the need to fracture smogon even more

i didn't want the butts to engage in war with the breasts and what not
 
Fuck that, size > shape any day. In fact, D-cups that are too perky are not as hot as those with a little sag, because the overly-perky ones look fake.

Saggy boobs > rocket boobs anyway. The best being somewhere in the middle. They need enough "perk/shape" to keep their volume (not go flat), but enough "sag" to give them that soft appearance that makes them look real.

Anything smaller than a D cup cannot be considered boobs.

There's some truth in that - rocket/traffic cone boobs just look unnatural. But don't all natural boobs have at least some sag in them? I agree mostly with your second paragraph, can't say I agree on your final sentence though.
 
has everyone not learned by now that chou is hopelessly addicted to milk junkies and his opinion should just be left alone in whatever fanciful cleavage he holds dearly to his psyche at all times??

i haven't voted yet, but it will probably be legs. a woman's breast size is not something she can control (naturally) so i don't really see that as something to ever be impressed with. working out your upper body can make your breasts perkier, but i think "perfect" breasts are ones that are proportionate to the rest of your frame.

i'm kind of obsessed with butts, and simple exercise can take an average butt to a pretty great butt. i love spanking butts. BUTTS

flat stomaches are beyond sexy. if you have a flat tummy and defined abs, someone better be giving it some attention. that goes for both guys and girls.

and last but certainly not least, legs. great legs are like the red carpet to the rest of the body, which will probably be pretty all right if a girl takes the time to exercise and shape her legs. good legs will most likely lead to a perky and round butt, which could also lead to the middle of the hourglass in a flat and toned stomach. if all that is good, breasts are negligible at this point, but i'm sure they're going to look great too no matter what size.

hint: a woman who exercises and takes care of her body is the most attractive thing.
 
@Fishy-- You know me too well :|

On another note-- being able to control/not control a personal aspect seems a weird factor to consider when it comes to attraction. I mean, at the base level, attraction is all about reproduction, which is all about picking a mate with the right genes-- you know, that genetic material that decides so much about who we are, with us having zero ability to change them. You could say that, despite what fashion/makeup/culture does, attraction's base purpose is to be solely about picking out attributes the other party has no ability to control. Am I wrong? O.o

Now if we're talking about picking a mate/spouse/life partner (pick your favorite phrase), than being able to work together is most important and compatibility beyond mere physical attraction is supremely important... but I don't think that's what the OP wanted to talk about.

There's some truth in that - rocket/traffic cone boobs just look unnatural. But don't all natural boobs have at least some sag in them? I agree mostly with your second paragraph, can't say I agree on your final sentence though.

I hope my gfriend ain't stalking b/c I'm about to say her tits don't fall perfectly in line with my tastes, but she's a rare example of 34 D's boobs that don't hang/sag at all-- those things stand to attention all natural. They're nice and rounded, so not "cone" shaped, but so firm for natural boobs-- I would personally prefer a little more hang (maybe if I just wait it out??? But she's already 27-- how many years before "age sagage" kicks in??).

Maybe I should shut up and just be satisfied that my asian girlfriend has boobs that I consider boobs (love 'em-- I'll wait any number of decades to see the hanging I desire, lol).
 
chou i would agree with your assessment if i weren't so evolved to the point that i can think and otherwise form opinions outside of my "base genetics" and i really wish you'd stop generalizing the average person to merely act and think like a caveman when it comes to attraction in the opposite sex.
 
Well of course there's a lot more to attraction than mere physical attraction. I even said that personality traits, compatibility, (and in my opinion, life views, values, religious beliefs, ECONOMIC beliefs, EDUCATIONAL values), etc. are a lot more important when picking a significant other. This is where I think higher cognitive functions and the ability to think above base level come into play.

But this thread is about physical attraction. With physical attraction, aren't we still just dressed up cave men?

I still don't get why "factors someone can control" should be more important than "factors someone can't control" in terms of physical attraction. Makeup, dress, scent, body language, and level of fitness are things we have more or less ability to control in altering our physical attractiveness. Yes, these factors do play a huge role in physical attraction, but I don't see why I (or anyone) should be obligated to find them more or less important than non-controllable factors.

To me, I could care less if a pair of legs are long or stubby as long as they fall into the average range of healthy human body proportions and have a reasonable degree of tone ('could care less about a little bit of fat/celulite). A little tummy never hurt either-- nature made women to have a bit of fat.

Fuck, if anything I'd expect most women to be appreciative of the fact that I don't buy into the media-induced tincy-wincy woman model, and have very little discrimination based on age.

In any case, in physical attraction, I don't think there's such thing as obligation-- it's something outside any moral scope because: it's something you can't control (which does come into play with ethics). If you don't expect homosexual guys to stop loving other men, how could you put any moral weight on me to not be affixiated on boobs?
 
has everyone not learned by now that chou is hopelessly addicted to milk junkies and his opinion should just be left alone in whatever fanciful cleavage he holds dearly to his psyche at all times??

i haven't voted yet, but it will probably be legs. a woman's breast size is not something she can control (naturally) so i don't really see that as something to ever be impressed with. working out your upper body can make your breasts perkier, but i think "perfect" breasts are ones that are proportionate to the rest of your frame.

i'm kind of obsessed with butts, and simple exercise can take an average butt to a pretty great butt. i love spanking butts. BUTTS

flat stomaches are beyond sexy. if you have a flat tummy and defined abs, someone better be giving it some attention. that goes for both guys and girls.

and last but certainly not least, legs. great legs are like the red carpet to the rest of the body, which will probably be pretty all right if a girl takes the time to exercise and shape her legs. good legs will most likely lead to a perky and round butt, which could also lead to the middle of the hourglass in a flat and toned stomach. if all that is good, breasts are negligible at this point, but i'm sure they're going to look great too no matter what size.

hint: a woman who exercises and takes care of her body is the most attractive thing.

i am so glad the stomach is getting more love compared to earlier on in this thread.

ugh, also reading your comment made me miss my abs. I'm working hard at the gym, but seeing as i am currently bulking (and loving the size i have gained so far. gone up 1 shirt size and the current shirts i moved up to are beginning to get tight.), it doesnt help me in that area. although the muscle i am putting on is great, i am paying the price at my mid section. i can only now see the outline of my abs ./sadface

cant wait for spring/summer when i get them back. In the end though i will be paying full attention to her (whomever she may be) so i dont worry about it too much

Edit: also nobody is currently giving it some attention :(. i should just take someone seriously and enter into a relationship.......nah

Edit 2: A younger Mariah Carey had one of the sexiest midsections ever
damn, that woman is just my fantasy and still my only celeb crush after all these years (all throughout my teen years). so damn sexy i would drop all my relationship insecurities and just go straight to marriage.
 
But this thread is about physical attraction. With physical attraction, aren't we still just dressed up cave men?

no!! jesus christ. everyone is born and grows up figuring out what traits and attributes they prefer in a person, but it's totally nuts to say that anyone is programmed to like certain things, besides their sexual orientation. this could very well become a nature vs nurture argument but i don't think that's necessary. i don't think it's my genetics that tell me that i like curly hair, a pretty smile/good teeth, blue eyes, whatever. each and every one of my boyfriends has had less in common with the next than they had with the previous one. the only constant that i've been attracted to is them having a functional penis.

I still don't get why "factors someone can control" should be more important than "factors someone can't control" in terms of physical attraction. Makeup, dress, scent, body language, and level of fitness are things we have more or less ability to control in altering our physical attractiveness. Yes, these factors do play a huge role in physical attraction, but I don't see why I (or anyone) should be obligated to find them more or less important than non-controllable factors.

well, who at all said you have to put one on a higher pedestal than the other? i merely expressed my opinion, i didn't say "and anyone who disagrees is a dumb head." you basically took one line of my post and ran waaaay too far with it, and i think you should reign it in.

To me, I could care less if a pair of legs are long or stubby as long as they fall into the average range of healthy human body proportions and have a reasonable degree of tone ('could care less about a little bit of fat/celulite). A little tummy never hurt either-- nature made women to have a bit of fat.

i find this hard to believe when you seem to boast having a girlfriend whose breasts are larger than her head. but hum, maybe that's just one of the exceptions that genetics can't explain…….??

Fuck, if anything I'd expect most women to be appreciative of the fact that I don't buy into the media-induced tincy-wincy woman model, and have very little discrimination based on age.

talk about back handed compliments. in your admission that you don't "buy in to skinny woman models" you're still discriminating against them. it's not okay to side with "most women" if they don't fit that model just because they're the majority. personally, I am 110 lbs on average and a mere A cup, and i find it insulting that earlier in this thread you said that breasts smaller than a D cup are "not breasts" or in your later reiteration, "negligible as breasts." you can like huge tits all you want, but that doesn't mean you have to insult those of us not as well-endowed as your hentai-dream girlfriend. after all, breast size is a factor no girl can control naturally, but apparently you will hold that against someone anyway. also the fact that you said you would still date someone with smaller breasts, just not pay any attention to that area at all? i don't see how you're going to date someone with that mindset for very long. that's like saying "oh I'm dating this guy who is totally gorgeous, but he doesn't have any chest hair. totally not manly, i don't think it's going to work out." it's idiotic.

In any case, in physical attraction, I don't think there's such thing as obligation-- it's something outside any moral scope because: it's something you can't control (which does come into play with ethics). If you don't expect homosexual guys to stop loving other men, how could you put any moral weight on me to not be affixiated on boobs?

jesus christ, PLEASE stop acting like you are a victim of liking huge tits. i am not victimizing you because of your preference, nor am i victimizing you at all. morality has nothing to do with what we're talking about, i have no idea why you brought that into this discussion. ethics too. i am not putting "moral weight" on whether or not you are fixated on large breasts, i am calling attention to you being an asshole about women that don't have large breasts.

it's pretty hilarious to me that men can critique women's breasts to the point where some (and i'm certainly not inferring you, chou) would go as far as to suggest to their girlfriends/partners/whomever that maybe they should considering breast implants. if only women had the luxury to offer men the idea of getting a larger penis, too bad we have to settle for such dick enlargement to appear in their personalities instead of their pants.
 
Actually, it is in our genetics to be attracted to certain traits. Sure, there are factors that affect it as well while you age, but it certainly is in our genetics to be attracted to certain figures/ratios etc.
 
Fishy, I'll agree that I took one line of your post and we've ran a long way with it.

I will say that if you'll go back to the initial posts, you'll find mine:

On another note-- being able to control/not control a personal aspect seems a weird factor to consider when it comes to attraction. I mean, at the base level, attraction is all about reproduction, which is all about picking a mate with the right genes-- you know, that genetic material that decides so much about who we are, with us having zero ability to change them. You could say that, despite what fashion/makeup/culture does, attraction's base purpose is to be solely about picking out attributes the other party has no ability to control. Am I wrong? O.o
Has a tone of curious inquisition. I merely wished to invite you to engage in an intellectual exploration of a difference of opinion that I found peculiar/surprising.

While your response:

chou i would agree with your assessment if i weren't so evolved to the point that i can think and otherwise form opinions outside of my "base genetics" and i really wish you'd stop generalizing the average person to merely act and think like a caveman when it comes to attraction in the opposite sex.
Does contain value statements that could be read as condescending. I'll admit I am at fault or taking the bait more than I should have.

However, I did intend for discourse that was merely intellectual, and not at all personal. I will stand by even my longer post abiding to this sentiment.

Anyway, attraction is a very complicated behavior based heavily on both nature and nurture, as you have said. I merely wished to explore the fact that I find it strange to consider whether a physical trait is controllable or not in its value. If you are going to conclude that there is no right or wrong and that it is completely individual (as I would have thought from the start), then there is not much more to say on the subject.
 
honestly i was just really upset about your previous slight toward smaller breasts, but hopefully you can word your opinions in a more positive nature without backing them with negatives against what is contrary to your opinion. tastes are individual indeed, i just found it distasteful to insult that which you're not personally attracted to.

and heroes, that can be said for all people to some extent, but those figures/ratios still vary from person to person. i just really, really hate sweeping generalizations concerning aesthetics, when in the end beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder!!
 
for the most part, larger breasts are biologically more attractive than smaller breasts in the sense that they are perceived as having greater fertility by males
 
blatantly insecure about her breasts but i agree with everything she said and omg that burn about penis enlargement jesus christ lol said:
hint: a woman who exercises and takes care of her body is the most attractive thing.

this! jessica ennis is like my dream girl

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at first we'll be rivals but our shared love of competition will bring us together and before long we'll be doing sit ups together and having long meaningful conversations about calories and interval training and our children will be strong and beautiful, the whole thing is going to be just swell i can't wait
 
I'm an ass man but on the subject of other body part I will say that whenever a girl has no sleeves on or whatever I always check out her shoulders.
 
seriously? shoulders? thats got to be the absolute LAST thing i care about. except elbows. i dont care about those at all. unless they are really gross and scabby or moldy.
 
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