But this thread is about physical attraction. With physical attraction, aren't we still just dressed up cave men?
no!! jesus christ. everyone is born and grows up figuring out what traits and attributes they prefer in a person, but it's totally nuts to say that anyone is programmed to like certain things, besides their sexual orientation. this could very well become a nature vs nurture argument but i don't think that's necessary. i don't think it's my genetics that tell me that i like curly hair, a pretty smile/good teeth, blue eyes, whatever. each and every one of my boyfriends has had less in common with the next than they had with the previous one. the only constant that i've been attracted to is them having a functional penis.
I still don't get why "factors someone can control" should be more important than "factors someone can't control" in terms of physical attraction. Makeup, dress, scent, body language, and level of fitness are things we have more or less ability to control in altering our physical attractiveness. Yes, these factors do play a huge role in physical attraction, but I don't see why I (or anyone) should be obligated to find them more or less important than non-controllable factors.
well, who at all said you have to put one on a higher pedestal than the other? i merely expressed my opinion, i didn't say "and anyone who disagrees is a dumb head." you basically took one line of my post and ran waaaay too far with it, and i think you should reign it in.
To me, I could care less if a pair of legs are long or stubby as long as they fall into the average range of healthy human body proportions and have a reasonable degree of tone ('could care less about a little bit of fat/celulite). A little tummy never hurt either-- nature made women to have a bit of fat.
i find this hard to believe when you seem to boast having a girlfriend whose breasts are larger than her head. but hum, maybe that's just one of the exceptions that genetics can't explain…….??
Fuck, if anything I'd expect most women to be appreciative of the fact that I don't buy into the media-induced tincy-wincy woman model, and have very little discrimination based on age.
talk about back handed compliments. in your admission that you don't "buy in to skinny woman models" you're still discriminating against them. it's not okay to side with "most women" if they don't fit that model just because they're the majority. personally, I am 110 lbs on average and a mere A cup, and i find it insulting that earlier in this thread you said that breasts smaller than a D cup are "not breasts" or in your later reiteration, "negligible as breasts." you can like huge tits all you want, but that doesn't mean you have to insult those of us not as well-endowed as your hentai-dream girlfriend. after all, breast size is a factor no girl can control naturally, but apparently you will hold that against someone anyway. also the fact that you said you would still date someone with smaller breasts, just not pay any attention to that area at all? i don't see how you're going to date someone with that mindset for very long. that's like saying "oh I'm dating this guy who is totally gorgeous, but he doesn't have any chest hair. totally not manly, i don't think it's going to work out." it's idiotic.
In any case, in physical attraction, I don't think there's such thing as obligation-- it's something outside any moral scope because: it's something you can't control (which does come into play with ethics). If you don't expect homosexual guys to stop loving other men, how could you put any moral weight on me to not be affixiated on boobs?
jesus christ, PLEASE stop acting like you are a victim of liking huge tits. i am not victimizing you because of your preference, nor am i victimizing you at all. morality has nothing to do with what we're talking about, i have no idea why you brought that into this discussion. ethics too. i am not putting "moral weight" on whether or not you are fixated on large breasts, i am calling attention to you being an asshole about women that don't have large breasts.
it's pretty hilarious to me that men can critique women's breasts to the point where some (and i'm certainly not inferring you, chou) would go as far as to suggest to their girlfriends/partners/whomever that maybe they should considering breast implants. if only women had the luxury to offer men the idea of getting a larger penis, too bad we have to settle for such dick enlargement to appear in their personalities instead of their pants.