CAP 29 So Far:

This next stage is Stat Limits, and it's very important! Our Stats Leader, who will be leading this stage, is 2spoopy4u , so make sure that your posts are generally directed towards him and the questions he asks. Spoo will be deciding the stat limits for CAP 29 at the conclusion of this thread, based on community input. This is NOT the place where we actually submit stats. That will come later.

These limits will help to define what we consider when making and talking about stat spreads for CAP 29. We will look at limits to CAP 29's physical and special attacking prowess, its physical and special tanking capabilities, and the overall power of its stats.

This is a relatively tricky stage of the process if you're not familiar with what it is we're doing and why we're doing it. For that reason, we strongly encourage those who intend to participate to read the entire OP thoroughly and ask questions where needed.

Please do not poll jump by talking about specific stat spreads or suggesting specific abilities.

Be forewarned that there is no poll for this stage of the CAP. The Stats Leader will decide the stat limits for the CAP upon the conclusion of this thread.

Stat bias limits set the general stat bias of a Pokemon from an offensive and defensive standpoint. Stat biases are not solely for limiting stats, but they also describe the overall build of the Pokemon in offensive and defensive terms. However, the stat spread is the only part of the project that will be constrained by Stat Bias Limits. There will be three stat biases selected and a total Base Stat Rating (BSR) limit. The Stat Biases are:

The rating of the Pokémon's physical defense.

The rating of the Pokémon's special defense.

The rating of the Pokémon's offenses. This can be divided into Physical Sweepiness and Special Sweepiness.

The rating of the Pokémon's Physical offense

The rating of the Pokémon's Special offense

A spreadsheet for calculating the ratings can be found here. To use it for yourself, create an editable copy with File > Make a copy. If you don't have a spreadsheet program, OpenOffice and Google Sheets are free.

If you're a newer member of CAP, we

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As a reminder, the BSR calculations were changed after CAP 28 / before CAP 29, so please familiarize yourself with the changes here. Major changes include a renormalization of the BSR itself to more closely match BST, and the change to a single Sweepiness limit that incorporates both a Pokemon's Attack and Special Attack stats.

-----And just like that, we're done! Thanks to everyone who contributed to this discussion. There's a lot to unpack with how a Color Change Pokemon will work in the CAP metagame, but I feel confident in what we've selected. Let's take a final look at the summation of our hard work in this thread:

Switch-Ins for CAP29

Slowking

Slowbro

Slowking-Galar (AV)

Ferrothorn

Clefable (Utility)

Rillaboom (CB)

Mandibuzz

Zeraora

CAP29 Pressures with Sludge Bomb (Poison-type Moves)

Rillaboom (SD)

Tangrowth

Jumbao

Tapu Lele

Tapu Koko

Tapu Fini

Kerfluffle

Clefable (CM)

CAP29 Pressures with Dark Pulse (Dark-type Moves)

Aegislash (Offensive)

Dragapult

Pajantom

Latios

Victini

Kartana

Difficulty Checking CAP29

Corviknight (Can't check, but can U-turn out)

Mandibuzz (Can't check, but can U-turn out)

Regieleki (Can't check, but can Volt Switch out)

Cyclohm (No Toxic)

Suicune

Counters to CAP29

Gastrodon

Blissey (Only against CM sets)

Checks to CAP29

Tyranitar

Colossoil

Garchomp

Arghonaut

Toxapex

Heatran (Defensive)

Landorus-T (Scarf)

Please note that these contain information based on what we know about CAP29 right now with our ability and typing. These lists will absolutely change in the near future as we give CAP29 stats and a competitive movepool. Our counters list in particular was left very narrow in order to allow our stat spread submitters maximum flexibility in how they plan their sets (how bulky, how offensive, and how speedy). That list will grow significantly as CAP29 is given stats and limited in its coverage options. But for now, Gastrodon in particular can serve as a perfect counter for calculations against special CAP29 sets (CM) and optional physical ones (Coil), which will bring many more Pokemon into the fold of countering CAP29.

Now let's look towards 2spoopy4u and Stat Limits! Thank you all once more for your continued participation.

This next stage is Stat Limits, and it's very important! Our Stats Leader, who will be leading this stage, is 2spoopy4u , so make sure that your posts are generally directed towards him and the questions he asks. Spoo will be deciding the stat limits for CAP 29 at the conclusion of this thread, based on community input. This is NOT the place where we actually submit stats. That will come later.

These limits will help to define what we consider when making and talking about stat spreads for CAP 29. We will look at limits to CAP 29's physical and special attacking prowess, its physical and special tanking capabilities, and the overall power of its stats.

This is a relatively tricky stage of the process if you're not familiar with what it is we're doing and why we're doing it. For that reason, we strongly encourage those who intend to participate to read the entire OP thoroughly and ask questions where needed.

Please do not poll jump by talking about specific stat spreads or suggesting specific abilities.

Be forewarned that there is no poll for this stage of the CAP. The Stats Leader will decide the stat limits for the CAP upon the conclusion of this thread.

**Stat Bias Limits**Stat bias limits set the general stat bias of a Pokemon from an offensive and defensive standpoint. Stat biases are not solely for limiting stats, but they also describe the overall build of the Pokemon in offensive and defensive terms. However, the stat spread is the only part of the project that will be constrained by Stat Bias Limits. There will be three stat biases selected and a total Base Stat Rating (BSR) limit. The Stat Biases are:

**Physical Tankiness (PT)**The rating of the Pokémon's physical defense.

**Special Tankiness (ST)**The rating of the Pokémon's special defense.

**Sweepiness (S)**The rating of the Pokémon's offenses. This can be divided into Physical Sweepiness and Special Sweepiness.

*Physical Sweepiness (S)*The rating of the Pokémon's Physical offense

*Special Sweepiness (S)*The rating of the Pokémon's Special offense

A spreadsheet for calculating the ratings can be found here. To use it for yourself, create an editable copy with File > Make a copy. If you don't have a spreadsheet program, OpenOffice and Google Sheets are free.

If you're a newer member of CAP, we

*highly*recommend that you do some good lurking during this stage in the process. Read this page thoroughly to understand what exactly we're doing here. If you're still confused, check out some of the old Stat Limits Discussion threads for past CAPs in the CAP Process Archive. If you're still uncomfortable with posting here, then we suggest you watch how experienced users post; you can learn a lot from them!----

As a reminder, the BSR calculations were changed after CAP 28 / before CAP 29, so please familiarize yourself with the changes here. Major changes include a renormalization of the BSR itself to more closely match BST, and the change to a single Sweepiness limit that incorporates both a Pokemon's Attack and Special Attack stats.

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