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CAP 4 CAP 4 - Part 3 (Secondary Typing Poll 1)
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Shuckle's feeble with its 20 Base HP. Night Shade / Seismic Toss = Deadkle.
Electric is my first choice. As mentioned, Ground weakness can be remedied by non-Levitate ways (Such as Magnet Rise. This is an utility Pokemon after all. ) Electric/Poison designs are also very promising
Dragon is my second call. Putting aside its ridiculous amount of resistances (And why doesn't anyone advocating a Levitating Poison/Electric mention Thick Fat on this guy?) design ideas are kind of limited, kind of not. While it will be a poisonous dragon/serpent, we have a lot of those, like basilisk, Vasuki, Jormundgard, Nidhogg, Typhoon, Yamata no Orochi (A drunk Poison/Dragon!), Hydra...
Note, those favoring Steel/Poison, by the way, an alchemical legendary trio was one of my ancient ideas - mercury, salt and sulphur Pokemon. In alchemy, mercury symbolizes the spirit as opposed to salt's body and sulphur's soul, and is one of the major components making up the human body. We can use this to give our Poison/Steel a mystic aspect and allow it utility Psychic moves like Gravity, Trick Room and whatnot, and perhaps it can flavor the Pokedex entries.
Dragon is my second call. Putting aside its ridiculous amount of resistances (And why doesn't anyone advocating a Levitating Poison/Electric mention Thick Fat on this guy?) design ideas are kind of limited, kind of not. While it will be a poisonous dragon/serpent, we have a lot of those, like basilisk, Vasuki, Jormundgard, Nidhogg, Typhoon, Yamata no Orochi (A drunk Poison/Dragon!), Hydra...
Note, those favoring Steel/Poison, by the way, an alchemical legendary trio was one of my ancient ideas - mercury, salt and sulphur Pokemon. In alchemy, mercury symbolizes the spirit as opposed to salt's body and sulphur's soul, and is one of the major components making up the human body. We can use this to give our Poison/Steel a mystic aspect and allow it utility Psychic moves like Gravity, Trick Room and whatnot, and perhaps it can flavor the Pokedex entries.
1. Steel for all the reasons prev mentioned, especially some key resists like ghost, dark, dragon and ice.
2. No Secondary Type because I can't decide between Dark, Ground, Rock and Electric.
I've been wanting a poison/steel ever since Utility was decided on as the concept. Got some good art ideas up my sleeve too.
I should say I think you're all wasting your Dragon votes on this - don't give such a good offensive typing to a pokemon that won't make full use of it. Can't argue that Dragon provides some nice resists. Sadly, 4 weaknesses is alot as well.
2. No Secondary Type because I can't decide between Dark, Ground, Rock and Electric.
I've been wanting a poison/steel ever since Utility was decided on as the concept. Got some good art ideas up my sleeve too.
I should say I think you're all wasting your Dragon votes on this - don't give such a good offensive typing to a pokemon that won't make full use of it. Can't argue that Dragon provides some nice resists. Sadly, 4 weaknesses is alot as well.
Poison/Flying would be my first choice, because I think the immunity to Grounds and 4x Resistance to Flying is kinda important. Also, it not gets too strong having weaknesses to Rock, Electric, etc...
Poison/Dark would be my second choice, because like most ppl said, it has just one weakness, making it sturdier, though the neutrality to Fighting could be annoying.
Poison/Dark would be my second choice, because like most ppl said, it has just one weakness, making it sturdier, though the neutrality to Fighting could be annoying.
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Poison/Dragon - Any reason I had has been stated already. It has useful resistances, a workable STAB, the ability to absorb Toxic Spikes, and it seems like such an interesting idea. Plus, having a Utility-focused OU Dragon would be pretty cool.
Poison/Electric - I would've voted for Steel, but I feel having the ability to absorb Toxic Spikes trumps having a buttload of resistances in this case.
Rock sounded pretty interesting as well, but these two were at the top of my list, so I had to go with them.
Quick question. Would a Poison/Steel be able to absorb the Toxic Spikes or would Steel's immunity to Poison prevent it? It could sway my vote.
Poison/Electric - I would've voted for Steel, but I feel having the ability to absorb Toxic Spikes trumps having a buttload of resistances in this case.
Rock sounded pretty interesting as well, but these two were at the top of my list, so I had to go with them.
Quick question. Would a Poison/Steel be able to absorb the Toxic Spikes or would Steel's immunity to Poison prevent it? It could sway my vote.
1.) Dark - Only one weakness (Ground), one immunity (Psychic), four resistances. That is seriously awesome sauce, plus, it compliments Rev very nicely.
2.) Steel - Steel gives it a lot of resistances, one immunity, can absorb Toxic Spikes, etc, etc. Still, this goes to second place due to the x4 Ground weak, and Fire weak, offensive types that are in most competitive teams.
2.) Steel - Steel gives it a lot of resistances, one immunity, can absorb Toxic Spikes, etc, etc. Still, this goes to second place due to the x4 Ground weak, and Fire weak, offensive types that are in most competitive teams.
Steel
The selling point to me is the flying and rock resists. I specifically do not like electric because the only viable attack type against it will be ground, and I would rather there were more ways to kill it.
Ground
rock resist without flying weak
The selling point to me is the flying and rock resists. I specifically do not like electric because the only viable attack type against it will be ground, and I would rather there were more ways to kill it.
Ground
rock resist without flying weak
1. No secondary typing
2. Electric
I'm sure you can guess my reasons. After looking it over I decided that electric wouldn't be a bad secondary type, the extra ground weakness doesn't count for much. I don't like any typings that have an ice weakness since it might provoke more dragon killers out of the woodwork (Syclant, erk) but the rock, ground and dark typings all have their interesting merits.
Oh, and to all the people voting for dragon because it's going to have "cool" concept art is making me sad (the same goes for any vote that's based on concept art). After several years of doing art requests doing dragons has gotten very boring. I get it, they're cool now can you let artists do something a bit more interesting? That's how I feel anyway.
2. Electric
I'm sure you can guess my reasons. After looking it over I decided that electric wouldn't be a bad secondary type, the extra ground weakness doesn't count for much. I don't like any typings that have an ice weakness since it might provoke more dragon killers out of the woodwork (Syclant, erk) but the rock, ground and dark typings all have their interesting merits.
Oh, and to all the people voting for dragon because it's going to have "cool" concept art is making me sad (the same goes for any vote that's based on concept art). After several years of doing art requests doing dragons has gotten very boring. I get it, they're cool now can you let artists do something a bit more interesting? That's how I feel anyway.
Quoted for truth. I've hated drawing dragons for a while, too; giant wings and spiky tails can only hold your interest for so long. :/
Electric
Could lead to some interesting artwork, as well as fitting with the flavour of utility.
No Secondary Type
It would be quite cool to have a mono-type CaP for the first time, particularly as mono-Poisons are rare in OU play.
Could lead to some interesting artwork, as well as fitting with the flavour of utility.
No Secondary Type
It would be quite cool to have a mono-type CaP for the first time, particularly as mono-Poisons are rare in OU play.
We're not sure but I assume that the game/coding recognizes it's Poison typing and allow it to suck up Toxic Spike.
reading this up, poison/dragon would be easily beaten so i will sway away from that and take
poison/flying it has 3 x4 resistances AND immunity to ground, while keeping ice and weakness to stealth rocks to balance it out, it will make for an interesting battle.
poison/bug bug weak pokemon are more common then people think, and poison being a psychic weakness the coverage it will get from this will be good to have
poison/flying it has 3 x4 resistances AND immunity to ground, while keeping ice and weakness to stealth rocks to balance it out, it will make for an interesting battle.
poison/bug bug weak pokemon are more common then people think, and poison being a psychic weakness the coverage it will get from this will be good to have
I've made up my mind.
Poison/Dragon is my first choice. I chose it because it brings resistances that are helpful, and doesn't give it too many weaknesses that are bad. It also easily allows us to get a good movepool due to the mystic aura surrounding Dragons as people have pointed out. I'm a sucker for Fire/Water/Elec resists, but I wanted them all with the Fighting resist still in tact.
Poison/Steel gets my second vote. The resistances are better than Poison/Electric, if only just for the combination of Rock+Ice+Flying resist. EDIT- And I forgot that the resistances make the 4x Ground weakness workable. And it's SR resistant.
Poison/Dragon is my first choice. I chose it because it brings resistances that are helpful, and doesn't give it too many weaknesses that are bad. It also easily allows us to get a good movepool due to the mystic aura surrounding Dragons as people have pointed out. I'm a sucker for Fire/Water/Elec resists, but I wanted them all with the Fighting resist still in tact.
Poison/Steel gets my second vote. The resistances are better than Poison/Electric, if only just for the combination of Rock+Ice+Flying resist. EDIT- And I forgot that the resistances make the 4x Ground weakness workable. And it's SR resistant.
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