CaP Prevos - Movepool Updates

Naviathan:naviathan:
1 Peck
1 Dragon Breath
1 Gust
1 Water Pulse
1 Protect

1 Splash
7 Water Gun
11 Metal Claw
17 Scary Face
21 Metal Sound
25 Bubblebeam
31 Drill Peck
35 Flash Cannon
39 Slack Off
45 Brine
49 Icicle Crash
54 Wide Guard
60 Hydro Pump
64 Hurricane
70 Iron Head
74 Self Destruct
78 Heavy Slam
TM04 Ice Punch
TM05 Thunder Punch
TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact
TM16 Screech
TM20 Self-Destruct
TM21 Rest
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM26 Scary Face
TM27 Icy Wind
TM31 Attract
TM33 Rain Dance
TM35 Hail
TM36 Whirlpool
TM39 Facade
TM45 Dive
TM51 Icicle Spear
TM55 Brine
TM66 Thunder Fang
TM67 Ice Fang
TM76 Round
TM79 Retaliate
TM97 Brutal Swing
TM99 Breaking Swipe
TR01 Body Slam
TR03 Hydro Pump
TR04 Surf
TR05 Ice Beam
TR06 Blizzard
TR13 Focus Energy
TR14 Metronome
TR16 Waterfall
TR20 Substitute
TR26 Endure
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR31 Iron Tail
TR32 Crunch
TR37 Taunt
TR45 Muddy Water
TR46 Iron Defense
TR47 Dragon Claw
TR49 Calm Mind
TR51 Dragon Dance
TR62 Dragon Pulse
TR70 Flash Cannon
TR74 Iron Head
TR84 Scald
TR86 Wild Charge
TR89 Hurricane
TR97 Psychic Fangs
TR99 Body Press
Steel Beam
Scale Shot
Steel Roller
Bite (Morpeko)
Feather Dance (Unfezant to Farfetch'd-Kanto)
Feint (Cinderace)
Haze (Quagsire)
Toxic (Gen 7 TM)
Double Team (Gen 7 TM)
Echoed Voice (Gen 7 TM)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM)
Confide (Gen 7 TM)
Strength (Gen 6 TM)
Rock Smash (Gen 6 TM)
Notes:
  • The levelups of Floatoy and Caimanoe are a bit inconsistent in comparison to Naviathan, so I had to add some extra level 1 moves to compensate. Notably, this makes Water Pulse not a transfer move, as it shows up in Floatoy's level up.
  • Despite learning Self-Destruct by level up, Naviathan did not get it as a TR, so I added it.
  • Showdown marks Heavy Slam as a level 1 move, rather than level 68 like the update thread does. I stuck with the update thread on this one.
  • EDIT: added Hurricane, Scary Face, Hydro Pump, Brine, and Heavy Slam to TMs, since they also appear in level up.
  • EDIT 2: moved Heavy Slam from level 68 to level 78
Floatoy:floatoy:
1 Peck
1 Dragon Breath
1 Gust
03 Splash
07 Water Gun
11 Metal Claw
17 Scary Face
23 Bubblebeam
27 Drill Peck
31 Water Pulse
35 Slack Off
38 Brine
42 Icicle Crash
46 Protect
50 Hydro Pump
53 Iron Head
TM04 Ice Punch
TM16 Screech
TM21 Rest
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM26 Scary Face
TM27 Icy Wind
TM31 Attract
TM33 Rain Dance
TM35 Hail
TM36 Whirlpool
TM39 Facade
TM45 Dive
TM51 Icicle Spear
TM55 Brine
TM66 Thunder Fang
TM67 Ice Fang
TM76 Round
TM97 Brutal Swing (Gen 7 addition)
TR01 Body Slam
TR03 Hydro Pump
TR04 Surf
TR05 Ice Beam
TR06 Blizzard
TR13 Focus Energy
TR14 Metronome
TR16 Waterfall
TR20 Substitute
TR26 Endure
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR31 Iron Tail
TR32 Crunch
TR37 Taunt
TR45 Muddy Water
TR47 Dragon Claw
TR49 Calm Mind
TR51 Dragon Dance
TR62 Dragon Pulse
TR74 Iron Head
TR84 Scald
TR97 Psychic Fangs
None
Bite (Morpeko)
Feather Dance (Unfezant to Farfetch'd-Kanto)
Feint (Cinderace)
Haze (Quagsire)
Toxic (Gen 7 TM)
Double Team (Gen 7 TM)
Echoed Voice (Gen 7 TM)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM)
Confide (Gen 7 TM)
Rock Smash (Gen 6 TM)
Notes:
  • Not a Steel type, so I've completely removed Steel Beam from consideration.
  • The level up implementation for Floatoy is weirdly inconsistent, with a particular nod to Water Pulse and Protect, which both show up in Floatoy's level up in the final submission, but aren't marked as such on Showdown. There are also some level conflicts (3 vs 1 on Splash, 17 vs 1 on Scary Face, and 35 vs 39 on Slack Off).
  • EDIT: added Hydro Pump, Scary Face, and Brine to TMs, and Hurricane and Heavy Slam to unused moves since they also appear in Naviathan's level up.
Metal Sound
Flash Cannon
Wide Guard
Hurricane
Heavy Slam (added Gen 7)
Self-Destruct

TM05 Thunder Punch
TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact
TM20 Self-Destruct
TM79 Retaliate
TM99 Breaking Swipe
TR46 Iron Defense
TR70 Flash Cannon
TR79 Heavy Slam (added Gen 7)
TR86 Wild Charge
TR89 Hurricane
TR99 Body Press

Steel Beam
Scale Shot
Steel Roller


Strength (Gen 6 HM/TM)

As a result of the live meeting, added the following:
  • New TMs: Screech, Body Slam, Crunch, Muddy Water, Focus Energy
  • Other TMs: Brutal Swing
Caimanoe:caimanoe:
1 Peck
1 Dragon Breath
1 Gust
1 Water Pulse
03 Splash
07 Water Gun
11 Metal Claw
17 Scary Face
21 Metal Sound
25 Bubblebeam
31 Drill Peck
35 Flash Cannon
39 Slack Off
43 Brine
47 Icicle Crash
51 Protect
54 Hydro Pump
58 Iron Head
62 Self Destruct
66 Heavy Slam
TM04 Ice Punch
TM05 Thunder Punch
TM16 Screech
TM20 Self-Destruct
TM21 Rest
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM26 Scary Face
TM27 Icy Wind
TM31 Attract
TM33 Rain Dance
TM35 Hail
TM36 Whirlpool
TM39 Facade
TM45 Dive
TM51 Icicle Spear
TM55 Brine
TM66 Thunder Fang
TM67 Ice Fang
TM76 Round
TM79 Retaliate
TM97 Brutal Swing (Gen 7 addition)
TR01 Body Slam
TR03 Hydro Pump
TR04 Surf
TR05 Ice Beam
TR06 Blizzard
TR13 Focus Energy
TR14 Metronome
TR16 Waterfall
TR20 Substitute
TR26 Endure
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR31 Iron Tail
TR32 Crunch
TR37 Taunt
TR45 Muddy Water
TR46 Iron Defense
TR47 Dragon Claw
TR49 Calm Mind
TR51 Dragon Dance
TR62 Dragon Pulse
TR70 Flash Cannon
TR74 Iron Head
TR79 Heavy Slam (added in Gen 7)
TR84 Scald
TR97 Psychic Fangs
TR99 Body Press
Steel Beam
Scale Shot
Steel Roller
Bite (Morpeko)
Feather Dance (Unfezant to Farfetch'd-Kanto)
Feint (Cinderace)
Haze (Quagsire)
Toxic (Gen 7 TM)
Double Team (Gen 7 TM)
Echoed Voice (Gen 7 TM)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM)
Confide (Gen 7 TM)
Strength (Gen 6 TM)
Rock Smash (Gen 6 TM)
Notes:
  • Added Steel Beam automatically as a tutor move.
  • Caimanoe's level 1 has some duplicates of moves learned at later levels that I removed. For some unknown reason, Showdown lists Hydro Pump at level 60 vs the final submission's level 54.
  • EDIT: added Hydro Pump, Scary Face, and Brine to TMs, and Hurricane and Heavy Slam to unused moves since they also appear in Naviathan's level up.
Wide Guard
Hurricane

TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact
TM99 Breaking Swipe
TR86 Wild Charge
TR89 Hurricane
As a result of the live meeting, made the following additions:
  • Level up: add Heavy Slam at level 66
  • IoA: Steel Roller, Scale Shot
  • New TMs: Screech, Body Slam, Crunch, Muddy Water, Body Press, Focus Energy
  • Other TMs: Brutal Swing, Heavy Slam
 
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Kerfluffle:kerfluffle:
1 Scratch
1 Feather Dance
1 Encore
1 Snore
1 Charm

1 Fairy Wind
1 Yawn
13: Power-Up Punch
17: Draining Kiss
21: Endure
25: Crush Claw
29: Scary Face
33: Parting Shot
37: Play Rough
41: Rest
45: Aura Sphere
49: Moonblast
53: Close Combat
57: Torment
57: Dream Eater
TM00 Mega Punch
TM01 Mega Kick
TM06 Fly
TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact
TM21 Rest
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM26 Scary Face
TM28 Giga Drain
TM29 Charm
TM31 Attract
TM34 Sunny Day
TM37 Beat Up
TM39 Facade
TM40 Swift
TM41 Helping Hand
TM42 Revenge
TM43 Brick Break
TM62 Speed Swap
TM63 Drain Punch
TM72 Magic Room
TM75 Low Sweep
TM76 Round
TM79 Retaliate
TM85 Snarl
TM87 Draining Kiss
TM89 Misty Terrain
TR01 Body Slam
TR07 Low Kick
TR13 Focus Energy
TR14 Metronome
TR20 Substitute
TR21 Reversal
TR22 Sludge Bomb
TR26 Endure
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR30 Encore
TR35 Uproar
TR37 Taunt
TR39 Superpower
TR48 Bulk Up
TR53 Close Combat
TR56 Aura Sphere
TR64 Focus Blast
TR65 Energy Ball
TR70 Flash Cannon
TR77 Grass Knot
TR78 Sludge Wave
TR83 Ally Switch
TR85 Work Up
TR90 Play Rough
TR92 Dazzling Gleam
TR99 Body Press
Coaching
Misty Explosion
Quick Guard (Sawk)
Wide Guard (Throh)
Wish (Slurpuff)
Celebrate (Gen 6 event)
Hold Hands (Gen 6 event)
Strength (Gen 6 TM/HM)
Confide (Gen 7 TM)
Double Team (Gen 7 TM)
Psych Up (Gen 7 TM)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM)
Toxic (Gen 7 TM)
Kerfluffle @ Choice Band
Ability: Natural Cure
??? Nature
OT: cbrevan, 55555
Level: 16
- Celebrate
- Hold Hands
- Fly
- Metronome

Notes:
  • For reasons unknown to me, Pluffle has Snore and Encore as extra moves in its level up that Kerfluffle doesn't, so I shoved them into level 1.
  • I compiled the Transfer list myself.
  • Smallest of nitpicks: is the Kerfluffle event actually specified to be in a Cherish Ball, or is that just the default?
  • EDIT: Added Charm to level 1 to match its addition to Pluffle's level up.
Pluffle:pluffle:
1 Scratch
1 Feather Dance
3: Fairy Wind
7: Yawn
10: Charm (formerly Wake-Up Slap, Kerfluffle has Power-Up Punch)
13: Draining Kiss
16: Encore
20: Scary Face
24: Parting Shot
27: Play Rough
31: Rest
31: Snore
36: Moonblast
42: Torment (Nightmare)
42: Dream Eater
TM21 Rest
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM26 Scary Face
TM28 Giga Drain
TM29 Charm
TM31 Attract
TM34 Sunny Day
TM37 Beat Up
TM39 Facade
TM41 Helping Hand
TM72 Magic Room
TM76 Round
TM79 Retaliate
TM85 Snarl
TM87 Draining Kiss
TM89 Misty Terrain
TR01 Body Slam
TR14 Metronome
TR20 Substitute
TR22 Sludge Bomb
TR26 Endure
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR30 Encore
TR35 Uproar
TR37 Taunt
TR65 Energy Ball
TR70 Flash Cannon
TR77 Grass Knot
TR78 Sludge Wave
TR83 Ally Switch
TR85 Work Up (Gen 7 addition)
TR90 Play Rough
TR92 Dazzling Gleam
Misty Explosion
Quick Guard (Sawk)
Wide Guard (Throh)
Wish (Slurpuff)
Confide (Gen 7 TM)
Double Team (Gen 7 TM)
Psych Up (Gen 7 TM)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM)
Toxic (Gen 7 TM)

Notes:
  • I easily replaced Nightmare with Torment in Pluffle's level up, but I'm more hesitant on replacing Wake-Up Slap with Power-Up Punch, so I didn't make the switch myself.
    • Was decided that the replacement would be Charm.
  • Pluffle's level up on Showdown does not list Snore as a level up move for some reason, and also lists Fairy Wind at level 1 when the winning submission says level 3.
  • Added in Endure as a global TM.
Endure
Crush Claw
Aura Sphere
Close Combat

TM00 Mega Punch
TM01 Mega Kick

TM06 Fly
TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact
TM42 Revenge
TM43 Brick Break
TM62 Speed Swap
TM63 Drain Punch
TM75 Low Sweep
TR07 Low Kick
TR13 Focus Energy
TR21 Reversal
TR39 Superpower

TR48 Bulk Up
TR53 Close Combat
TR56 Aura Sphere
TR64 Focus Blast
TR99 Body Press

Coaching


Strength (Gen 6 TM/HM)

As a result of the live meetings, made the following changes:
  • Level 10: insert Charm
  • IoA: Misty Explosion
  • New TMs: Magic Room, Misty Terrain, Body Slam, Uproar, Ally Switch, Work Up (Gen 7), Beat Up
  • Other TMs: Metronome
 
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Equilibra:equilibra:
Evo: Doom Desire
1 Doom Desire
1 Rapid Spin
1 Pound
1 Magnet Rise
1 Mud-Slap
1 Imprison
15 Mud Shot
20 Gyro Ball
25 Power Split
25 Guard Split
30 Quash
35 Mind Reader
40 Earth Power
45 Flash Cannon
50 Memento
50 Healing Wish
57 Earthquake
64 Destiny Bond
71 Aura Sphere
78 Pain Split
85 Perish Song
TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact
TM19 Safeguard
TM21 Rest
TM22 Rock Slide
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM32 Sandstorm
TM39 Facade
TM41 Helping Hand
TM44 Imprison
TM48 Rock Tomb
TM53 Mud Shot
TM70 Trick Room
TM71 Wonder Room
TM72 Magic Room
TM76 Round
TM81 Bulldoze
TM96 Smart Strike
TR01 Body Slam
TR10 Earthquake
TR20 Substitute
TR26 Endure
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR31 Iron Tail
TR46 Iron Defense
TR52 Gyro Ball
TR56 Aura Sphere
TR67 Earth Power
TR70 Flash Cannon
TR74 Iron Head
TR83 Ally Switch
TR85 Work Up
TR87 Drill Run
Steel Beam
Steel Roller
None
Double Team (Gen 7 TM)
Rock Polish (Gen 7 TM)
Explosion (Gen 7 TM)
Psych Up (Gen 7 TM)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM)
Confide (Gen 7 TM)
Recycle (Gen 7 Tutor)
Gravity (Gen 7 Tutor)
Note: the line is weirdly missing global TM Endure, so I added it myself.

Justyke:justyke:
1: Pound
1: Magnet Rise (formerly Mud Sport)
5: Mud-Slap
9: Imprison
13: Mud Shot
17: Gyro Ball
21: Power Split
21: Guard Split
26: Quash (formerly Mirror Shot)
31: Mind Reader
36 Earth Power
41: Flash Cannon
46: Memento
46: Healing Wish
52: Earthquake
58 Destiny Bond
64 Aura Sphere
70: Pain Split
TM19 Safeguard
TM21 Rest
TM22 Rock Slide
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM32 Sandstorm
TM39 Facade
TM41 Helping Hand
TM44 Imprison
TM48 Rock Tomb
TM53 Mud Shot
TM70 Trick Room
TM71 Wonder Room
TM72 Magic Room
TM76 Round
TM81 Bulldoze
TM96 Smart Strike
TR01 Body Slam
TR10 Earthquake
TR20 Substitute
TR26 Endure
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR31 Iron Tail
TR46 Iron Defense
TR52 Gyro Ball
TR56 Aura Sphere
TR67 Earth Power
TR70 Flash Cannon
TR74 Iron Head
TR83 Ally Switch
TR85 Work Up
TR87 Drill Run
Steel Beam
Steel Roller
None
Double Team (Gen 7 TM)
Rock Polish (Gen 7 TM)
Psych Up (Gen 7 TM)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM)
Confide (Gen 7 TM)
Recycle (Gen 7 Tutor)

Notes:
  • Gave Steel Beam automatically (Steel type) and Endure (as noted earlier).
  • I automatically replaced Mirror Shot with Quash and Mud Sport with Magnet Rise to mirror Equilibra.
Doom Desire (evo move)
Rapid Spin
Perish Song

TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact

Explosion (Gen 7 TM)
Gravity (Gen 7 Tutor)
EDIT: As a result of the live meeting, gave Steel Beam and Body Slam.


EDIT2: Put Imprison, Mud Shot, and Aura Sphere into TM/TR for both, since they were in level up.
 
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Snaelstrom:snaelstrom:
Evo. Liquidation
1 Liquidation
1 Aqua Ring
1 Rapid Spin
1 Whirlpool
1 Attract
1 Pound
1 Water Gun
1 Growl
1 Struggle Bug
11 Charm
14 Confusion
17 Aqua Jet
22 Heal Pulse
27 Brine
32 Rain Dance
40 U-Turn
44 Psychic
48 Bug Buzz
56 Toxic
60 Hydro Pump
64 Swords Dance
TM07 Pin Missile
TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact
TM19 Safeguard
TM21 Rest
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM27 Icy Wind
TM29 Charm
TM31 Attract
TM33 Rain Dance
TM35 Hail
TM36 Whirlpool
TM39 Facade
TM40 Swift
TM41 Helping Hand
TM45 Dive
TM51 Icicle Spear
TM55 Brine
TM56 U-turn
TM61 Guard Swap
TM70 Trick Room
TM71 Wonder Room
TM72 Magic Room
TM74 Venoshock
TM76 Round
TM83 Razor Shell
TM87 Draining Kiss
TR00 Swords Dance
TR01 Body Slam
TR03 Hydro Pump
TR04 Surf
TR05 Ice Beam
TR06 Blizzard
TR11 Psychic
TR14 Metronome
TR16 Waterfall
TR18 Leech Life
TR20 Substitute
TR26 Endure
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR34 Future Sight
TR35 Uproar
TR38 Trick
TR40 Skill Swap
TR42 Hyper Voice
TR45 Muddy Water
TR60 X-Scissor
TR61 Bug Buzz
TR76 Stealth Rock
TR83 Ally Switch
TR84 Scald
TR85 Work Up
TR91 Venom Drench
TR92 Dazzling Gleam
TR98 Liquidation
Water Pledge
Hydro Cannon
Dual Wingbeat
Skitter Smack
Acid Armor (Jellicent -> Gastrodon)
Psycho Shift (Xatu -> Togekiss)
Spiky Shield (Togedemaru)?????
Sticky Web (Slurpuff)
Infestation (Araquanid)
Life Dew (Lapras)
Celebrate (Gen 7 event)
Block (Gen 7 tutor)
Bug Bite (Gen 7 TM)
Confide (Gen 7 TM)
Double Team (Gen 7 TM)
Echoed Voice (Gen 7 TM)
Magic Coat (Gen 7 Tutor)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM)
Water Pulse (Gen 7 Tutor)
Snaelstrom @ Bottle Cap
Level 50
Ability: Random
Nature: Random
OT: Cooper
ID: 003089
Met: 2018 Celebration CAP (fateful encounter)
Ribbon: Souvenir Ribbon
- Celebrate
- Liquidation
- Leech Life
- Metronome
Notes:
  • Snaelstrom was missing 5 TMs for some reason (globals in Snore and Endure, as well as Uproar, Work Up, and Venoshock), so I put them in myself.
  • Showdown also thinks that Water Pledge and Hydro Cannon are Gen 7 only for some reason.
  • Spiky Shield is not actually passed by anything this generation (so far). Togedemaru is in the right egg group, but it doesn't pass the move to anything, and the only Pokemon that got it by egg move, Pansage, is snapped. Shoving it in level 1 would solve our issues, but it might also look weird on Swirlpool and Coribalis, who should probably also get it for consistency's sake.
  • Smallest of nitpicks: is the Snaelstrom event actually specified to be in a Cherish Ball, or is that just the default?
Swirlpool:swirlpool:
1 Pound
1 Water Gun
4 Growl
7 Struggle Bug
10 Charm
14 Confusion
16 Aqua Jet
20 Heal Pulse
25 Brine
29 Rain Dance
34 U-Turn
38 Bug Buzz
40 Toxic (formerly Captivate)
44 Hydro Pump
48 Swords Dance
TM19 Safeguard
TM21 Rest
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM27 Icy Wind
TM29 Charm
TM31 Attract
TM33 Rain Dance
TM35 Hail
TM36 Whirlpool
TM39 Facade
TM40 Swift
TM41 Helping Hand
TM45 Dive
TM55 Brine
TM56 U-turn
TM61 Guard Swap
TM74 Venoshock
TM76 Round
TM87 Draining Kiss
TR00 Swords Dance
TR01 Body Slam
TR03 Hydro Pump
TR04 Surf
TR05 Ice Beam
TR06 Blizzard
TR11 Psychic
TR14 Metronome
TR16 Waterfall
TR18 Leech Life
TR20 Substitute
TR26 Endure
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR34 Future Sight
TR35 Uproar
TR38 Trick
TR40 Skill Swap
TR42 Hyper Voice
TR45 Muddy Water
TR61 Bug Buzz
TR76 Stealth Rock
TR83 Ally Switch
TR84 Scald
TR85 Work Up
TR91 Venom Drench
TR92 Dazzling Gleam
Water Pledge
Skitter Smack
Acid Armor (Jellicent -> Gastrodon)
Psycho Shift (Xatu -> Togekiss)
Spiky Shield (Togedemaru)?????
Sticky Web (Slurpuff)
Infestation (Araquanid)
Life Dew (Lapras)
Bug Bite (Gen 7 TM)
Confide (Gen 7 TM)
Double Team (Gen 7 TM)
Echoed Voice (Gen 7 TM)
Magic Coat (Gen 7 Tutor)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM)
Water Pulse (Gen 7 Tutor)
Notes:
  • I automatically filled in Toxic for Captivate in the level up to match Snaelstrom.
  • I automatically gave Water Pledge (starter).
  • See Snaelstrom on Spiky Shield.
1 Liquidation
1 Aqua Ring
1 Rapid Spin
1 Whirlpool
44 Psychic

TM07 Pin Missile
TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact
TM51 Icicle Spear
TM70 Trick Room
TM71 Wonder Room
TM72 Magic Room
TM83 Razor Shell
TR60 X-Scissor

TR98 Liquidation

Dual Wingbeat
Hydro Cannon

Celebrate (Gen 7 event)
Block (Gen 7 tutor - deliberate exclusion)
EDIT: Based on the live meeting, added these:
  • IoA: Skitter Smack
  • New TMs: Swift, Dive, Guard Swap, Draining Kiss, Body Slam, Skill Swap, Muddy Water, Ally Switch, Venom Drench, Future Sight
  • Other TMs: Whirlpool, Metronome

Coribalis:coribalis:
1 Pound
1 Water Gun
4 Growl
7 Struggle Bug
10 Charm
14 Confusion
16 Aqua Jet
22 Heal Pulse
26 Brine
30 Rain Dance
34 U-Turn
38 Psychic
42 Bug Buzz
48 Toxic (formerly Captivate)
52 Hydro Pump
58 Swords Dance
TM19 Safeguard
TM21 Rest
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM27 Icy Wind
TM29 Charm
TM31 Attract
TM33 Rain Dance
TM35 Hail
TM36 Whirlpool
TM39 Facade
TM40 Swift
TM41 Helping Hand
TM45 Dive
TM55 Brine
TM56 U-turn
TM61 Guard Swap
TM70 Trick Room
TM71 Wonder Room
TM72 Magic Room
TM74 Venoshock
TM76 Round
TM83 Razor Shell
TM87 Draining Kiss
TR00 Swords Dance
TR01 Body Slam
TR03 Hydro Pump
TR04 Surf
TR05 Ice Beam
TR06 Blizzard
TR11 Psychic
TR14 Metronome
TR16 Waterfall
TR18 Leech Life
TR20 Substitute
TR26 Endure
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR34 Future Sight
TR35 Uproar
TR38 Trick
TR40 Skill Swap
TR42 Hyper Voice
TR45 Muddy Water
TR60 X-Scissor
TR61 Bug Buzz
TR76 Stealth Rock
TR83 Ally Switch
TR84 Scald
TR85 Work Up
TR91 Venom Drench
TR92 Dazzling Gleam
Water Pledge
Dual Wingbeat
Skitter Smack
Acid Armor (Jellicent -> Gastrodon)
Psycho Shift (Xatu -> Togekiss)
Spiky Shield (Togedemaru)?????
Sticky Web (Slurpuff)
Infestation (Araquanid)
Life Dew (Lapras)
Block (Gen 7 tutor)
Bug Bite (Gen 7 TM)
Confide (Gen 7 TM)
Double Team (Gen 7 TM)
Echoed Voice (Gen 7 TM)
Magic Coat (Gen 7 Tutor)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM)
Water Pulse (Gen 7 Tutor)
Notes:
  • Water Gun is just missing for some reason in Coribalis's learnset on Showdown, so I put it in to match Swirlpool/the winning submission. Attract is also missing from both the winning movepool and Showdown, but I put it in there for consistency's sake.
  • As with Swirlpool, I automatically replaced Captivate with Toxic to match Snaelstrom.
  • I automatically gave Water Pledge (starter) and Dual Wingbeat (the whole reason to give Snaelstrom Dual Wingbeat was because of Coribalis).
  • See Snaelstrom on Spiky Shield.
1 Liquidation
1 Aqua Ring
1 Rapid Spin
1 Whirlpool

TM07 Pin Missile
TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact
TM51 Icicle Spear
TR98 Liquidation

Hydro Cannon

Celebrate (Gen 7 event)
EDIT: Based on the live meeting, added these:
  • IoA: Skitter Smack
  • New TMs: Swift, Dive, Guard Swap, Razor Shell, Draining Kiss, Body Slam, Skill Swap, Muddy Water, X-Scissor, Ally Switch, Venom Drench, Future Sight
  • Other TMs: Whirlpool, Metronome
 
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Jumbao:jumbao:
1 Life Dew
1 Focus Energy
1 Fake Out
1 Detect
1 Flower Shield
1 Tackle
1 Leafage
10 Arm Thrust
14 Ingrain
17 Magical Leaf
21 Wish
24 Psych Up
28 Body Slam
31 Giga Drain
35 Sunny Day
35 Synthesis
38 Bullet Seed
42 Heavy Slam
45 Energy Ball
49 Moonblast
52 Leaf Storm
TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact
TM10 Magical leaf
TM11 Solar Beam
TM12 Solar Blade
TM17 Light Screen
TM19 Safeguard
TM20 Self-Destruct
TM21 Rest
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM28 Giga Drain
TM31 Attract
TM32 Sandstorm
TM34 Sunny Day
TM39 Facade
TM41 Helping Hand
TM43 Brick Break
TM50 Bullet Seed
TM71 Wonder Room
TM72 Magic Room
TM76 Round
TM81 Bulldoze
TM87 Draining Kiss
TM88 Grassy Terrain
TM89 Misty Terrain
TR01 Body Slam
TR13 Focus Energy
TR14 Metronome
TR20 Substitute
TR26 Endure
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR33 Shadow Ball
TR39 Superpower
TR48 Bulk Up
TR52 Gyro Ball
TR59 Seed Bomb
TR64 Focus Blast
TR65 Energy Ball
TR71 Leaf Storm
TR77 Grass Knot
TR79 Heavy Slam
TR90 Play Rough
TR92 Dazzling Gleam
Grassy Glide
Misty Explosion
Explosion (Seedot, Ferroseed)
Healing Wish (Clefable -> Cherubi)
Wood Hammer (Rillaboom)
Worry Seed (Roselia, Cherubi)
Shore Up (Gen 7 Level Up)
Block (Gen 7 Tutor)
Gravity (Gen 7 Tutor)
Magic Coat (Gen 7 Tutor)
Toxic (Gen 7 TM06)
Double-Team (Gen 7 TM32)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM87)
Confide (Gen 7 TM100)

Notes:
  • Heavy Slam is not implemented as a level up move for Jumbao this generation (just a TM), so I added it back in.
  • Jumbao is missing Round as a TM, so I added that back in.
  • Shore Up is in a weird spot right now. It was snapped at the beginning of the generation, but reintroduced with Palossand. However, we already stuck Life Dew in its place. Do we even want to add it back at this point? Maybe have it as a transfer move? Not sure. I stuck it in level 1 for now.
    • This can has been kicked down the road. Shore Up stays as a transfer for now.
EDIT: Added Bullet Seed to TMs to correct a notational mistake, Showdown only lists this as a level up move.
Mumbao:mumbao:
1 Flower Shield
4 Tackle
8 Leafage (Jumbao has Arm Thrust in this spot)
10 Ingrain
13 Helping Hand (replacing Leafage)
17 Focus Energy (formerly Lucky Chant)
19 Magical Leaf
22 Wish
26 Psych Up
28 Body Slam
31 Giga Drain (formerly Natural Gift)
35 Synthesis (replacing Helping Hand)
37 Energy Ball
40 Sunny Day
44 Moonblast
46 Leaf Storm
TM10 Magical leaf
TM11 Solar Beam
TM17 Light Screen
TM19 Safeguard
TM20 Self-Destruct
TM21 Rest
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM28 Giga Drain
TM31 Attract
TM32 Sandstorm
TM34 Sunny Day
TM39 Facade
TM41 Helping Hand
TM50 Bullet Seed
TM76 Round
TR79 Heavy Slam
TM87 Draining Kiss

TM88 Grassy Terrain
TM89 Misty Terrain
TR01 Body Slam
TR13 Focus Energy
TR20 Substitute
TR26 Endure
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR33 Shadow Ball
TR52 Gyro Ball
TR59 Seed Bomb
TR64 Focus Blast
TR65 Energy Ball
TR71 Leaf Storm
TR77 Grass Knot
TR90 Play Rough
TR92 Dazzling Gleam
Grassy Glide
Misty Explosion
Explosion (Seedot, Ferroseed)
Healing Wish (Clefable -> Cherubi)
Wood Hammer (Rillaboom)
Worry Seed (Roselia, Cherubi)
Gravity (Gen 7 Tutor)
Magic Coat (Gen 7 Tutor)
Toxic (Gen 7 TM06)
Double-Team (Gen 7 TM32)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM87)
Confide (Gen 7 TM100)
Notes:
  • I replaced Lucky Chant with Focus Energy and Natural Gift with Giga Drain to match Jumbao.
  • Jumbao replaced Rototiller with Arm Thrust, but I am not sure it matches Mumbao very flavorfully, so I did not complete the substitution.
  • Jumbao replaced Flame Burst with Synthesis, but Mumbao already has Helping Hand in that slot. If we don't put it somewhere, Mumbao will end up with Synthesis in its transfer moves. I put it there for now, but it's debatably worth discussing.
    • Moved level up moves around to include Synthesis in level up.
  • Mumbao in general has level up moves in weird orders compared to Jumbao.
  • Mumbao gets Hyper Beam for some reason in its TM list? Not sure if we want to remove it, I kept it for now.
    • Removed Hyper Beam.
Life Dew
Fake Out
Detect
Arm Thrust
Bullet Seed
Heavy Slam

TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact
TM12 Solar Blade
TM43 Brick Break
TM71 Wonder Room
TM72 Magic Room
TM81 Bulldoze
TR14 Metronome
TR39 Superpower
TR48 Bulk Up

Shore Up
Block (Gen 7 tutor, deliberate exclusion)
EDIT:
As a result of the live meeting:
  • Moved Leafage to level 8, Helping Hand to level 13, Synthesis to level 35
  • Gave Grassy Glide, Misty Explosion (IoA tutor moves), Draining Kiss, Play Rough, Self-Destruct (moves newly received by Jumbao as TMs), Bullet Seed and Heavy Slam (TMs with increased distribution)
  • Removed Hyper Beam
 
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I decided to take my own shot at the Syclant line.

Syclant:syclant:
1 Counter
1 Fell Stinger
1 Icicle Spear
1 Leer
1 Absorb
1 Ice Shard
11 Focus Energy
14 Fury Attack
19 Icy Wind
23 Fury Cutter
28 Slash
32 X-Scissor
37 Hail
41 Icicle Crash
46 Bug Buzz
50 Avalanche
55 Sheer Cold
TM01 Mega Punch
TM04 Ice Punch
TM07 Pin Missile
TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact
TM16 Screech
TM21 Rest
TM22 Rock Slide
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM27 Icy Wind
TM31 Attract
TM33 Rain Dance
TM35 Hail
TM39 Facade
TM40 Swift
TM43 Brick Break
TM51 Icicle Spear
TM56 U-turn
TM59 Fling
TM64 Avalanche
TM67 Ice Fang
TM76 Round
TM81 Bulldoze
TM94 False Swipe
TM97 Brutal Swing
TR00 Swords Dance
TR05 Ice Beam
TR06 Blizzard
TR10 Earthquake
TR13 Focus Energy
TR14 Metronome
TR18 Leech Life
TR20 Substitute
TR23 Spikes
TR26 Endure
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR37 Taunt
TR39 Superpower
TR60 X-Scissor
TR61 Bug Buzz
TR64 Focus Blast
TR67 Earth Power
TR68 Nasty Plot
TR75 Stone Edge
Dual Wingbeat
Skitter Smack
Triple Axel
Counter (Sudowoodo -> Crustle)
Struggle Bug (Accelgor)
String Shot (Galvantula)
Double-Edge (Escavalier)
Fell Stinger (Vespiquen)
Bug Bite (Gen 7 TM)
Confide (Gen 7 TM)
Double Team (Gen 7 TM)
Frost Breath (Gen 7 TM)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM)
Toxic (Gen 7 TM)
Focus Punch (gen 7 tutor)
Cut (Gen 6 HM/TM)
Water Pulse (Gen 6 tutor)
Hone Claws (G5/6 TM01)
Rock Smash (G4/ORAS HM06 / G5/XY TM94)
Strength (Gen 6 HM04)
Mimic (Gen 7 Egg)
Note:
  • I may be wrong about this, but I was under the impression that fully evolved Pokemon's level up movepools tend to not have moves in the single-digit levels, so I stuck with the update thread's leveling (whereas DHR went with Showdown, which mirrors Syclar on the first few moves). Otherwise, no discrepancies that I could see.
  • Removed Earth Power from egg moves compared to the update thread, as Earth Power is already a TM.
Syclar:syclar:
0 Leer
0 Absorb
5 Ice Shard
10 Focus Energy
14 Fury Attack
19 Icy Wind
23 Fury Cutter
28 Slash
31 X-Scissor
34 Hail
39 Icicle Crash
43 Bug Buzz
48 Avalanche
55 Sheer Cold
TM04 Ice Punch
TM07 Pin Missile
TM16 Screech
TM21 Rest
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM27 Icy Wind
TM31 Attract
TM33 Rain Dance
TM35 Hail
TM39 Facade
TM40 Swift
TM56 U-turn
TM59 Fling
TM64 Avalanche
TM67 Ice Fang
TM76 Round
TM94 False Swipe
TR00 Swords Dance
TR05 Ice Beam
TR06 Blizzard
TR13 Focus Energy
TR18 Leech Life
TR20 Substitute
TR23 Spikes
TR26 Endure
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR37 Taunt
TR39 Superpower
TR60 X-Scissor
TR61 Bug Buzz
TR67 Earth Power
Skitter Smack
Counter (Sudowoodo -> Crustle)
Struggle Bug (Accelgor)
String Shot (Galvantula)
Double-Edge (Escavalier)
Fell Stinger (Vespiquen)
Bug Bite (Gen 7 TM)
Confide (Gen 7 TM)
Double Team (Gen 7 TM)
Frost Breath (Gen 7 TM)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM)
Toxic (Gen 7 TM)
Focus Punch (gen 7 tutor)
Cut (Gen 6 HM/TM)
Water Pulse (Gen 6 tutor)
Hone Claws (G5/6 TM01)
Rock Smash (G4/ORAS HM06 / G5/XY TM94)
Strength (Gen 6 HM04)
Mimic (Gen 7 Egg)
Note:
  • For some reason, the thread lists Giga Impact for Syclar, but it is both not implemented in Showdown and makes no sense flavorfully. I intentionally took it out.
  • I'm a bit confused as to how evolution moves work, as Ice Punch has been the evo move for this line since last gen, but Syclar got ice Punch via tutor last gen. Is it OK to give it as a TM? I added it as a TM to match DHR for now.
  • I did not give Nasty Plot, but it could be given as a replacement for Tail Glow.
  • Icicle Spear has already not been given to Syclar before, which has cooled my enthusiasm on giving it this generation.
Counter
Fell Stinger

Icicle Spear

TM01 Mega Punch
TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact
TM22 Rock Slide
TM43 Brick Break
TM51 Icicle Spear
TM81 Bulldoze
TM97 Brutal Swing
TR10 Earthquake
TR14 Metronome
TR64 Focus Blast
TR68 Nasty Plot
TR75 Stone Edge

Dual Wingbeat
Triple Axel
EDIT: Per the live meeting:
  • IoA: Skitter Smack
  • New TMs: Ice Fang, Swift, Screech
 
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MaahirMomtaz12

I COULD BE BANNED!
I decided to take my own shot at the Syclant line.

Syclant:syclant:
1 Counter
1 Fell Stinger
1 Icicle Spear
1 Leer
1 Absorb
1 Ice Shard
11 Focus Energy
14 Fury Attack
19 Icy Wind
23 Fury Cutter
28 Slash
32 X-Scissor
37 Hail
41 Icicle Crash
46 Bug Buzz
50 Avalanche
55 Sheer Cold
TM01 Mega Punch
TM04 Ice Punch
TM07 Pin Missile
TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact
TM16 Screech
TM21 Rest
TM22 Rock Slide
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM27 Icy Wind
TM31 Attract
TM33 Rain Dance
TM35 Hail
TM39 Facade
TM40 Swift
TM43 Brick Break
TM51 Icicle Spear
TM56 U-turn
TM59 Fling
TM64 Avalanche
TM67 Ice Fang
TM76 Round
TM81 Bulldoze
TM94 False Swipe
TM97 Brutal Swing
TR00 Swords Dance
TR05 Ice Beam
TR06 Blizzard
TR10 Earthquake
TR13 Focus Energy
TR14 Metronome
TR18 Leech Life
TR20 Substitute
TR23 Spikes
TR26 Endure
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR37 Taunt
TR39 Superpower
TR60 X-Scissor
TR61 Bug Buzz
TR64 Focus Blast
TR67 Earth Power
TR68 Nasty Plot
TR75 Stone Edge
Dual Wingbeat
Skitter Smack
Triple Axel
Counter (Sudowoodo -> Crustle)
Struggle Bug (Accelgor)
String Shot (Galvantula)
Double-Edge (Escavalier)
Fell Stinger (Vespiquen)
Bug Bite (Gen 7 TM)
Confide (Gen 7 TM)
Double Team (Gen 7 TM)
Frost Breath (Gen 7 TM)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM)
Toxic (Gen 7 TM)
Focus Punch (gen 7 tutor)
Cut (Gen 6 HM/TM)
Water Pulse (Gen 6 tutor)
Hone Claws (G5/6 TM01)
Rock Smash (G4/ORAS HM06 / G5/XY TM94)
Strength (Gen 6 HM04)
Mimic (Gen 7 Egg)
Note:
  • I may be wrong about this, but I was under the impression that fully evolved Pokemon's level up movepools tend to not have moves in the single-digit levels, so I stuck with the update thread's leveling (whereas DHR went with Showdown, which mirrors Syclar on the first few moves). Otherwise, no discrepancies that I could see.
  • Removed Earth Power from egg moves compared to the update thread, as Earth Power is already a TM.
Syclar:syclar:
0 Leer
0 Absorb
5 Ice Shard
10 Focus Energy
14 Fury Attack
19 Icy Wind
23 Fury Cutter
28 Slash
31 X-Scissor
34 Hail
39 Icicle Crash
43 Bug Buzz
48 Avalanche
55 Sheer Cold
TM04 Ice Punch
TM07 Pin Missile
TM21 Rest
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM27 Icy Wind
TM31 Attract
TM33 Rain Dance
TM35 Hail
TM39 Facade
TM56 U-turn
TM59 Fling
TM64 Avalanche
TM76 Round
TM94 False Swipe
TR00 Swords Dance
TR05 Ice Beam
TR06 Blizzard
TR13 Focus Energy
TR18 Leech Life
TR20 Substitute
TR23 Spikes
TR26 Endure
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR37 Taunt
TR39 Superpower
TR60 X-Scissor
TR61 Bug Buzz
TR67 Earth Power
None
Counter (Sudowoodo -> Crustle)
Struggle Bug (Accelgor)
String Shot (Galvantula)
Double-Edge (Escavalier)
Fell Stinger (Vespiquen)
Bug Bite (Gen 7 TM)
Confide (Gen 7 TM)
Double Team (Gen 7 TM)
Frost Breath (Gen 7 TM)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM)
Toxic (Gen 7 TM)
Focus Punch (gen 7 tutor)
Cut (Gen 6 HM/TM)
Water Pulse (Gen 6 tutor)
Hone Claws (G5/6 TM01)
Rock Smash (G4/ORAS HM06 / G5/XY TM94)
Strength (Gen 6 HM04)
Mimic (Gen 7 Egg)
Note:
  • For some reason, the thread lists Giga Impact for Syclar, but it is both not implemented in Showdown and makes no sense flavorfully. I intentionally took it out.
  • I'm a bit confused as to how evolution moves work, as Ice Punch has been the evo move for this line since last gen, but Syclar got ice Punch via tutor last gen. Is it OK to give it as a TM? I added it as a TM to match DHR for now.
  • I did not give Nasty Plot, but it could be given as a replacement for Tail Glow.
  • Icicle Spear has already not been given to Syclar before, which has cooled my enthusiasm on giving it this generation.
Counter
Fell Stinger

Icicle Spear

TM01 Mega Punch
TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact
TM16 Screech
TM22 Rock Slide
TM40 Swift
TM43 Brick Break
TM51 Icicle Spear
TM67 Ice Fang
TM81 Bulldoze
TM97 Brutal Swing
TR10 Earthquake
TR14 Metronome
TR64 Focus Blast
TR68 Nasty Plot
TR75 Stone Edge

Dual Wingbeat
Skitter Smack
Triple Axel
This is how I did it following how Game Freak designs their Gen 8 movepools.

L1: Leer, Absorb
L5: Ice Shard
L10: Focus Energy
L15: Fury Attack
L20: Avalanche
L25: Fury Cutter
L30: Icy Wind
L35: Slash
L40: X-Scissor
L45: Hail
L50: Icicle Crash
L55: Bug Buzz
L60: Sheer Cold
L1: Ice Punch, Leer, Absorb, Ice Shard, Focus Energy
Evo.: Ice Punch
L15: Fury Attack
L20: Avalanche
L25: Fury Cutter
L30: Icy Wind
L35: Slash
L40: X-Scissor
L47: Hail
L54: Icicle Crash
L61: Bug Buzz
L68: Sheer Cold
 
Smokomodo:smokomodo:
1 Eruption
1 Morning Sun
1 Mach Punch
1 Circle Throw
1 Storm Throw
1 Metal Claw
1 Dig
1 Scratch
1 Tail Whip
1 Ember
Evo Move: Eruption
4 Smokescreen
7 Lick
10 Smog
14 Mud Shot
17 Flame Wheel
20 Bulldoze
24 Incinerate
29 Clear Smog
33 Lava Plume
38 Toxic
43 Flamethrower
49 Screech
54 Earthquake
60 Flare Blitz
65 Fissure
TM03 Fire Punch
TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact
TM11 Solar Beam
TM13 Fire Spin
TM15 Dig
TM16 Screech
TM21 Rest
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM31 Attract
TM34 Sunny Day
TM38 Will-o-Wisp
TM39 Facade
TM39 Sand Tomb
TM43 Brick Break
TM53 Mud Shot
TM68 Fire Fang
TM37 Cross Poison
TM76 Round
TM81 Bulldoze
TM92 Mystical Fire
TM98 Stomping Tantrum
TR02 Flamethrower
TR07 Low Kick
TR10 Earthquake
TR15 Fire Blast
TR20 Substitute
TR22 Sludge Bomb
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR31 Iron Tail
TR36 Heat Wave
TR37 Taunt
TR39 Superpower
TR43 Overheat
TR48 Bulk Up
TR55 Flare Blitz
TR57 Poison Jab
TR64 Focus Blast
TR67 Earth Power
TR73 Gunk Shot
TR76 Stealth Rock
TR85 Work Up
TR88 Heat Crash
TR91 Venom Drench
TR94 High Horsepower
Fire Pledge
Blast Burn
Burning Jealousy
Corrosive Gas
Scale Shot
Scorching Sands
Bone Rush - Lucario???
Bullet Punch - Lucario
Poison Fang - Salazzle
Acid Spray - Skuntank
Force Palm - Lucario
Defog - Sirfetch'd
Celebrate (Gen 7 event)
Confide (Gen 7 TM)
Double Team (Gen 7 TM)
Endeavor (Gen 7 tutor)
Roar (Gen 7 TM)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM)
Smokomodo @ Relic Silver
Level 50
Ability: Random
Nature: Random
OT: Jackson
ID: 001896
Met: 2018 Celebration CAP (fateful encounter)
Ribbon: Souvenir Ribbon
- Celebrate
- Eruption
- Magnitude
- Camouflage

Notes:
  • Nothing has ever received Bone Rush as an egg move (not even in Gen 7), so I have no idea what to do with it. I just left it as is for now.
  • Had to insert Dig into level 1 from Smogecko.
  • Smallest of nitpicks: is the Smokomodo event actually specified to be in a Cherish Ball, or is that just the default?
Smogecko:smogecko:
1 Scratch
1 Ember
4 Tail Whip
4 Smokescreen
7 Lick
10 Smog
13 Mud Shot
15 Flame Wheel
19 Bulldoze
22 Incinerate (formerly Flame Burst)
26 Lava Plume
30 Toxic (formerly Camouflage)
34 Dig (Incinerate was here)
40 Flamethrower
44 Screech
47 Flare Blitz (Dig was here)
TM03 Fire Punch
TM11 Solar Beam
TM13 Fire Spin
TM15 Dig
TM16 Screech
TM21 Rest
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM31 Attract
TM34 Sunny Day
TM38 Will-o-Wisp
TM39 Facade
TM39 Sand Tomb
TM43 Brick Break
TM53 Mud Shot
TM68 Fire Fang
TM76 Round
TM81 Bulldoze
TM98 Stomping Tantrum
TR02 Flamethrower
TR07 Low Kick
TR15 Fire Blast
TR20 Substitute
TR22 Sludge Bomb
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR31 Iron Tail
TR36 Heat Wave
TR37 Taunt
TR43 Overheat
TR48 Bulk Up
TR57 Poison Jab
TR67 Earth Power
TR73 Gunk Shot
TR76 Stealth Rock
TR85 Work Up
TR91 Venom Drench
Fire Pledge
Scale Shot
Scorching Sands
Bone Rush - Lucario???
Bullet Punch - Lucario
Poison Fang - Salazzle
Acid Spray - Skuntank
Force Palm - Lucario
Defog - Sirfetch'd
Confide (Gen 7 TM)
Double Team (Gen 7 TM)
Endeavor (Gen 7 tutor)
Roar (Gen 7 TM)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM)
Notes:
  • I replaced Camouflage with Toxic automatically to match Smokomodo. However, Smogecko already has Incinerate elsewhere in its movepool, which means it cannot be used to replace Flame Burst. I left the spot blank for now.
    • Was decided to add Flare Blitz at the end and readjust moves to fit, including moving Incinerate into the Flame Burst spot to be consistent with the rest of the line.
  • Automatically gave Fire Pledge as a Fire starter.
1 Eruption
1 Morning Sun
1 Mach Punch
1 Circle Throw
1 Storm Throw
1 Metal Claw
Clear Smog
Earthquake
Fissure

TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact
TM37 Cross Poison
TM92 Mystical Fire

TR10 Earthquake
TR39 Superpower
TR55 Flare Blitz
TR64 Focus Blast
TR88 Heat Crash
TR94 High Horsepower


Blast Burn
Burning Jealousy
Corrosive Gas


Celebrate (Gen 7 event)
EDIT: Based on the live meeting, added the following:
  • IoA Scorching Sands, Scale Shot
  • New TMs: Fire Fang, Venom Drench
  • Other TMs: Fire Punch
Smoguana:smoguana:
1 Dig
1 Scratch
1 Tail Whip
1 Ember
4 Smokescreen
7 Lick
10 Smog
13 Mud Shot
15 Flame Wheel
19 Bulldoze
22 Incinerate (formerly Flame Burst)
26 Clear Smog
31 Lava Plume
35 Toxic (formerly Camouflage)
42 Flamethrower
46 Screech
50 Earthquake
55 Flare Blitz
TM03 Fire Punch
TM11 Solar Beam
TM15 Dig
TM16 Screech
TM21 Rest
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM31 Attract
TM34 Sunny Day
TM37 Cross Poison
TM38 Will-o-Wisp
TM39 Facade
TM39 Sand Tomb
TM43 Brick Break
TM53 Mud Shot
TM68 Fire Fang
TM76 Round
TM81 Bulldoze
TM98 Stomping Tantrum
TR02 Flamethrower
TR07 Low Kick
TR10 Earthquake
TR15 Fire Blast
TR20 Substitute
TR22 Sludge Bomb
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR31 Iron Tail
TR36 Heat Wave
TR37 Taunt
TR39 Superpower
TR43 Overheat
TR48 Bulk Up
TR55 Flare Blitz
TR57 Poison Jab
TR67 Earth Power
TR73 Gunk Shot
TR76 Stealth Rock
TR85 Work Up
TR91 Venom Drench
Fire Pledge
Burning Jealousy
Corrosive Gas
Scale Shot
Scorching Sands
Bone Rush - Lucario???
Bullet Punch - Lucario
Poison Fang - Salazzle
Acid Spray - Skuntank
Force Palm - Lucario
Defog - Sirfetch'd
Confide (Gen 7 TM)
Double Team (Gen 7 TM)
Endeavor (Gen 7 tutor)
Roar (Gen 7 TM)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM)

Notes:
  • I automatically replaced Camouflage with Toxic and Flame Burst with Incinerate to match Smokomodo.
  • Had to insert Dig into level 1 from Smogecko.
  • Automatically gave Fire Pledge as a Fire starter.
1 Eruption
1 Morning Sun
1 Mach Punch
1 Circle Throw
1 Storm Throw
1 Metal Claw
Fissure

TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact
TM13 Fire Spin
TM92 Mystical Fire

TR64 Focus Blast
TR88 Heat Crash
TR94 High Horsepower


Blast Burn

Celebrate (Gen 7 event)
EDIT: Based on the live meeting, added the following:
  • IoA Scorching Sands, Burning Jealousy, Corrosive Gas, Scale Shot
  • New TMs: Fire Fang, Venom Drench, Cross Poison
  • Other TMs: None

EDIT2: Added Screech to TMs for the full line, as it was in level up but missing from TMs.
 
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Caribolt:caribolt:
Evolution: Horn Leech
1 Horn Leech
1 Bullet Seed
1 Grassy Terrain
1 Electric Terrain
1 Boomburst
1 Tackle
1 Leafage
1 Leer
1 Thunder Shock
12 Quick Attack
15 Razor Leaf
19 Confuse Ray
24 Spark
28 Leech Seed
32 Body Slam
37 Seed Bomb
42 Wild Charge
47 Synthesis
52 Charge Beam
57 Zap Cannon
62 Magnet Rise
TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact
TM11 Solar Beam
TM12 Solar Blade
TM14 Thunder Wave
TM21 Rest
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM28 Giga Drain
TM29 Charm
TM31 Attract
TM34 Sunny Day
TM39 Facade
TM40 Swift
TM41 Helping Hand
TM43 Brick Break
TM50 Bullet Seed
TM76 Round
TM80 Volt Switch
TM82 Electroweb
TM88 Grassy Terrain
TM90 Electric Terrain
TM93 Eerie Impulse
TR00 Swords Dance
TR01 Body Slam
TR08 Thunderbolt
TR09 Thunder
TR14 Metronome
TR20 Substitute
TR26 Endure
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR35 Uproar
TR42 Hyper Voice
TR48 Bulk Up
TR59 Seed Bomb
TR65 Energy Ball
TR70 Flash Cannon
TR71 Leaf Storm
TR72 Power Whip
TR77 Grass Knot
TR85 Work Up
TR86 Wild Charge
TR95 Throat Chop
Frenzy Plant
Grass Pledge
Grassy Glide
Rising Voltage
Terrain Pulse
Double-Edge (Jolteon)
Double Kick (Jolteon)
Present (Delibird)
Rapid Spin (Excadrill)
Toxic (Gen 7 TM)
Double Team (Gen 7 TM)
Echoed Voice (Gen 7 TM)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM)
Nature Power (Gen 7 TM)
Confide (Gen 7 TM)
Endeavor (Gen 7 Tutor)
Knock Off (Gen 7 Tutor)
Worry Seed (Gen 7 Tutor)
Celebrate (Gen 7 event)
Shock Wave (Gen 7 Tutor)
Caribolt @ Bottle Cap
Level 50
Ability: Random
Nature: Random
OT: Cooper
ID: 003089
Met: 2018 Celebration CAP (fateful encounter)
Ribbon: Souvenir Ribbon
- Celebrate
- Horn Leech
- Wild Charge
- Metronome
Notes:
  • I got nothing for Present. Shove it in level 1?
  • Power Whip was completely missing from Caribolt's learnset, despite being an egg move last gen, so I added it in as a TR.
  • Shock Wave and Celebrate were missing from the list of transfer moves in the update thread.
  • Smallest of nitpicks: is the Caribolt event actually specified to be in a Cherish Ball, or is that just the default?
EDIT: Added Bullet Seed into TMs, since it gets it as a level up move.
Fawnifer:fawnifer:
1 Tackle
1 Leafage
4 Leer
7 Thunder Shock
11 Quick Attack
14 Razor Leaf
18 Confuse Ray
22 Spark
26 Leech Seed
30 Body Slam
34 Seed Bomb
38 Wild Charge
42 Synthesis (formerly Flash)
46 Charge Beam (formerly Signal Beam)
50 Zap Cannon
54 Magnet Rise
TM11 Solar Beam
TM21 Rest
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM28 Giga Drain
TM29 Charm
TM31 Attract
TM34 Sunny Day
TM39 Facade
TM40 Swift
TM41 Helping Hand
TM43 Brick Break
TM50 Bullet Seed
TM76 Round
TM80 Volt Switch
TM88 Grassy Terrain
TR00 Swords Dance
TR01 Body Slam
TR20 Substitute
TR26 Endure
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR35 Uproar
TR42 Hyper Voice
TR48 Bulk Up
TR59 Seed Bomb
TR65 Energy Ball
TR71 Leaf Storm
TR72 Power Whip
TR77 Grass Knot
TR85 Work Up
TR86 Wild Charge
Grass Pledge
Grassy Glide
Double-Edge (Jolteon)
Double Kick (Jolteon)
Present (Delibird)
Rapid Spin (Excadrill)
Toxic (Gen 7 TM)
Double Team (Gen 7 TM)
Echoed Voice (Gen 7 TM)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM)
Nature Power (Gen 7 TM)
Confide (Gen 7 TM)
Knock Off (Gen 7 Tutor)
Worry Seed (Gen 7 Tutor)
Notes:
  • Added Endure as a global TM.
  • Automatically replaced Flash with Synthesis and Signal Beam with Charge Beam to match Caribolt.
  • Added Grass Pledge due to being a Grass starter.
Horn Leech
Bullet Seed
Grassy Terrain
Electric Terrain
Boomburst

TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact
TM12 Solar Blade
TM14 Thunder Wave
TM82 Electroweb
TM90 Electric Terrain
TM93 Eerie Impulse
TR08 Thunderbolt
TR09 Thunder
TR14 Metronome
TR70 Flash Cannon
TR95 Throat Chop

Frenzy Plant
Rising Voltage
Terrain Pulse


Endeavor (Gen 7 Tutor)
Celebrate (Gen 7 event)
Shock Wave (Gen 7 TM)
EDIT: Based on the live meeting, added the following:
  • IoA: Grassy Glide
  • New TMs: Charm, Swift, Leaf Storm, Bullet Seed
  • Other TMs: Grassy Terrain
Also added Hyper Voice, which I accidentally left out.

Electrelk:electrelk:
1 Tackle
1 Leafage
4 Leer
7 Thunder Shock
11 Quick Attack
14 Razor Leaf
18 Confuse Ray
22 Spark
26 Leech Seed
30 Body Slam
35 Seed Bomb
40 Wild Charge
42 Synthesis (formerly Flash)
46 Charge Beam (formerly Signal Beam)
53 Zap Cannon
58 Magnet Rise
TM11 Solar Beam
TM12 Solar Blade
TM14 Thunder Wave
TM21 Rest
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM28 Giga Drain
TM29 Charm
TM31 Attract
TM34 Sunny Day
TM39 Facade
TM40 Swift
TM41 Helping Hand
TM43 Brick Break
TM50 Bullet Seed
TM76 Round
TM80 Volt Switch
TM82 Electroweb
TM88 Grassy Terrain
TM93 Eerie Impulse
TR00 Swords Dance
TR01 Body Slam
TR08 Thunderbolt
TR09 Thunder
TR20 Substitute
TR26 Endure
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR35 Uproar
TR42 Hyper Voice
TR48 Bulk Up
TR59 Seed Bomb
TR65 Energy Ball
TR70 Flash Cannon
TR71 Leaf Storm
TR72 Power Whip
TR77 Grass Knot
TR85 Work Up
TR86 Wild Charge
TR95 Throat Chop
Grass Pledge
Grassy Glide
Rising Voltage
Double-Edge (Jolteon)
Double Kick (Jolteon)
Present (Delibird)
Rapid Spin (Excadrill)
Toxic (Gen 7 TM)
Double Team (Gen 7 TM)
Echoed Voice (Gen 7 TM)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM)
Nature Power (Gen 7 TM)
Confide (Gen 7 TM)
Endeavor (Gen 7 Tutor)
Knock Off (Gen 7 Tutor)
Worry Seed (Gen 7 Tutor)
Shock Wave (Gen 7 Tutor)
Notes:
  • Added Endure as a global TM.
  • Automatically replaced Flash with Synthesis and Signal Beam with Charge Beam to match Caribolt.
  • Added Grass Pledge due to being a Grass starter.
Horn Leech
Bullet Seed
Grassy Terrain
Electric Terrain
Boomburst

TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact
TM90 Electric Terrain
TR14 Metronome

Frenzy Plant
Terrain Pulse

Celebrate (Gen 7 event)
EDIT: Based on the live meeting, added the following:
  • IoA: Grassy Glide, Rising Voltage
  • New TMs: Charm, Swift, Leaf Storm, Bullet Seed, Eerie Impulse, Throat Chop, Solar Blade
  • Other TMs: Grassy Terrain
Also added Hyper Voice, which I accidentally left out.
 
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Pyroak's line is a pretty significant mess, so this is effectively a WIP. My work is here, I'd appreciate any help in piecing this together.

Pyroak:pyroak:
Evolve: Flame Charge [Level 24]
Evolve: Energy Ball [Level 38]
1 Double-Edge
1 Wood Hammer
1 Flare Blitz
1 Sweet Scent
1 Petal Blizzard
1 Bullet Seed
1 Ember
1 Leech Seed
14 Synthesis
19 Flame Wheel
23 Seed Bomb
28 Growth
32 Giga Drain
37 Iron Defense
37 Amnesia
41 Heat Crash
46 Flash Cannon
50 Lava Plume
55 Petal Dance
59 Aromatic Mist
64 Zap Cannon
68 Burn Up
TM08: Hyper Beam
TM09: Giga Impact
TM10: Magical Leaf
TM11: Solar Beam
TM12: Solar Blade
TM13: Fire Spin
TM17: Light Screen
TM19: Safeguard
TM21: Rest
TM22: Rock Slide
TM24: Snore
TM25: Protect
TM28: Giga Drain
TM31: Attract
TM34: Sunny Day
TM38: Will-O-Wisp
TM39: Facade
TM40: Swift
TM42: Revenge
TM48: Rock Tomb
TM49: Sand Tomb
TM50: Bullet Seed
TM76: Round
TM81: Bulldoze
TM88: Grassy Terrain
TR00: Swords Dance
TR02: Flamethrower
TR07: Low Kick
TR10: Earthquake
TR15: Fire Blast
TR17: Amnesia
TR20: Substitute
TR26: Endure
TR27: Sleep Talk
TR31: Iron Tail
TR36: Heat Wave
TR43: Overheat
TR46: Iron Defense
TR51: Dragon Dance
TR55: Flare Blitz
TR59: Seed Bomb
TR62: Dragon Pulse
TR65: Energy Ball
TR67: Earth Power
TR69: Zen Headbutt
TR70: Flash Cannon
TR71: Leaf Storm
TR74: Iron Head
TR76: Stealth Rock
TR77: Grass Knot
TR79: Heavy Slam
TR86: Wild Charge
TR88: Heat Crash
TR94: High Horsepower
Burning Jealousy
Grassy Glide
Scorching Sands
Terrain Pulse
Block (Snorlax)
Counter (Drednaw)
Dragon Breath (Charizard)
Nature Power (Venusaur)
Confide (Gen 7 TM)
Double Team (Gen 7 TM)
Dragon Tail (Gen 7 TM)
Incinerate (Gen 5/6 TM)
Roar (Gen 7 TM)
Rock Polish (Gen 7 TM)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM)
Toxic (Gen 7 TM)
Worry Seed (Gen 7 tutor)
Aromatherapy (Gen 7 egg)
Rock Smash (Gen 6 HM/TM)
Strength (Gen 6 HM/TM)
Ancient Power (Gen 4 Tutor)
Headbutt (Gen 4 tutor)
Mimic (Gen 4 egg)
Mud-Slap (Gen 4 Tutor)
Notes:
  • Pyroak's level up levels have some discrepancies between Showdown and the update thread. I stuck to the update thread on this one.
  • Pyroak has some issues with its egg moves.
    • The only valid parent that can pass Aromatherapy is the Meganium line, which is snapped. Easiest way would be to shove this into transfer moves, which I did. This needs to be updated on Showdown.
    • The only valid parent in Sword and Shield that can pass Nature Power is Venusaur, which was snapped until IoA. I left this in egg moves for now, but this needs to be resolved.
    • Nothing passes Petal Blizzard as an egg move in the first place, and even then the only valid parent in Sword and Shield that can pass it is Venusaur. I left this off too, but this also needs to be resolved.
  • Showdown lists Mimic as a Gen 4 tutor move, but for some reason it was missing from the Gen 7 movepool. I don't really know what to make of this, considering the inconsistency of the distribution of Mimic to past CAPs.
EDIT: It turns out that Pokemon in the base game did receive new egg moves from Pokemon that became accessible through Home, so I decided to allow Nature Power. Leaving Petal Blizzard as a question mark.
EDIT 2: Rock Polish appears in both Flarelm and Pyroak's Gen 7 movepools, but seems to be absent in Pyroak's Gen 8 movepool. I've added it to transfer moves.
EDIT 3: As per the live meeting, moved Petal Blizzard from egg moves to level 1, retroactive to past gens

Embirch:embirch:
1 Sweet Scent
1 Bullet Seed
5 Ember
10 Leech Seed
14 Synthesis
19 Flame Wheel
23 Seed Bomb
28 Growth
32 Giga Drain
37 Double-Edge
41 Lava Plume
46 Petal Dance
TM10: Magical Leaf
TM11: Solar Beam
TM13: Fire Spin
TM17: Light Screen
TM19: Safeguard
TM21: Rest
TM22: Rock Slide
TM24: Snore
TM25: Protect
TM28: Giga Drain
TM31: Attract
TM34: Sunny Day
TM38: Will-O-Wisp
TM39: Facade
TM40: Swift
TM42: Revenge
TM48: Rock Tomb
TM49: Sand Tomb
TM50: Bullet Seed
TM76: Round
TM81: Bulldoze
TM88: Grassy Terrain
TR00: Swords Dance
TR02: Flamethrower
TR15: Fire Blast
TR17: Amnesia
TR20: Substitute
TR26: Endure
TR27: Sleep Talk
TR31: Iron Tail
TR36: Heat Wave
TR43: Overheat
TR46: Iron Defense
TR51: Dragon Dance
TR55: Flare Blitz
TR59: Seed Bomb
TR65: Energy Ball
TR67: Earth Power
TR69: Zen Headbutt
TR74: Iron Head
TR76: Stealth Rock
TR77: Grass Knot
TR86: Wild Charge
Grassy Glide
Terrain Pulse
Block (Snorlax)
Counter (Drednaw)
Dragon Breath (Charizard)
Nature Power (Venusaur)
Confide (Gen 7 TM)
Double Team (Gen 7 TM)
Incinerate (Gen 6 TM)
Roar (Gen 7 TM)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM)
Toxic (Gen 7 TM)
Worry Seed (Gen 7 tutor)
Rock Smash (Gen 6 TM/HM)
Strength (Gen 6 TM/HM)
Headbutt (Gen 4 Tutor)
Mimic (Gen 4 Egg)???
Mud-Slap (Gen 4 Tutor)
Flame Charge (Gen 7 TM)
Aromatherapy (Gen 7 egg)
Notes:
  • Showdown says that Embirch should learn Iron Defense and Amnesia at level 37, but the movepool creator specifically removed these from Embirch, and the levels look copypasted from Pyroak, so I'm going to stick with it not getting it.
  • Showdown also lists Double Edge as a level 1 move, which also doesn't line up with the thread and makes no sense in the level up structure, so I stuck with the thread on this one too.
  • For Embirch's Gen 7 TMs, Showdown claims that Embirch does not learn Fire Blast, Flame Charge, Bulldoze, Wild Charge, or Confide, despite all of those showing up in the final submission (and Confide being a universal TM). On the other hand, Showdown says that Embirch gets Energy Ball and Attract, despite them not showing up in the update thread.
    • EDIT: I gave all of the TMs that appear in the final submission but not on Showdown. Energy Ball is near universal to Grass types (only Applin, Kartana, Rotom-Mow, and Silvally-Grass don't get it), and Attract is pretty much universal among gendered Pokemon, so I gave both of those as well.
  • For Embirch's Gen 7 tutors, Zen Headbutt is mysteriously missing on Showdown, despite it being in the update thread.
    • EDIT: I gave this.
  • For Embirch's Gen 7 egg moves, Psybeam is mysteriously missing on Showdown, while Double Edge is included instead.
    • EDIT: Double Edge appears in level up already, so not really any issue. Discord discussion lead to the deletion of Psybeam.
  • Among Embirch's transfer moves, Showdown includes Flash, Low Kick, Mimic, Rock Climb, and Zap Cannon, and is missing Incinerate.
    • EDIT: Gave Incinerate; removed Flash, Low Kick, Rock Climb, and Zap Cannon. Mimic is in a weird state, so I left it alone for now.
EDIT: It was decided on Discord to roll with the winning updated movepool from Gen 7 and remove any inconsistencies from there, so I compiled the TM/TR and Transfer moves list accordingly. The one issue I ran into is Psybeam, which is not only missing from Showdown, but completely unpassable by anything in Pyroak's egg groups, with its origin (from ADV Parasect, per this thread) making no sense. Discord discussion lead to the deletion of Psybeam.

Flame Charge
Energy Ball
Wood Hammer
Flare Blitz
Iron Defense
Amnesia
Heat Crash
Flash Cannon
Aromatic Mist
Zap Cannon
Burn Up

TM08: Hyper Beam
TM09: Giga Impact
TM12: Solar Blade
TR07: Low Kick
TR10: Earthquake
TR62: Dragon Pulse
TR70: Flash Cannon
TR71: Leaf Storm
TR79: Heavy Slam

TR88: Heat Crash
TR94: High Horsepower

Burning Jealousy
Scorching Sands


Dragon Tail (Gen 7 TM)
Rock Polish (Gen 7 TM)
Ancient Power (Gen 4 Tutor)
EDIT: As per the live meeting:
  • Remove Petal Blizzard, from past gens as well
  • IoA: Grassy Glide, Terrain Pulse
  • New TMs: Magical Leaf, Swift, Dragon Dance
  • Other TMs: Flare Blitz, Amnesia

Flarelm:flarelm:
1 Double-Edge
1 Flame Charge (formerly Flame Burst)
1 Sweet Scent
1 Bullet Seed
5 Ember
10 Leech Seed
14 Synthesis
19 Flame Wheel
23 Seed Bomb
28 Growth
32 Giga Drain
37 Iron Defense
37 Amnesia
46 Lava Plume
50 Petal Dance
Evo: Flame Charge
TM10: Magical Leaf
TM11: Solar Beam
TM13: Fire Spin
TM17: Light Screen
TM19: Safeguard
TM21: Rest
TM22: Rock Slide
TM24: Snore
TM25: Protect
TM28: Giga Drain
TM31: Attract
TM34: Sunny Day
TM38: Will-O-Wisp
TM39: Facade
TM40: Swift
TM42: Revenge
TM48: Rock Tomb
TM49: Sand Tomb
TM50: Bullet Seed
TM76: Round
TM81: Bulldoze
TM88: Grassy Terrain
TR00: Swords Dance
TR02: Flamethrower
TR07: Low Kick
TR10: Earthquake
TR15: Fire Blast
TR17: Amnesia
TR20: Substitute
TR26: Endure
TR27: Sleep Talk
TR31: Iron Tail
TR36: Heat Wave
TR43: Overheat
TR46: Iron Defense
TR51: Dragon Dance
TR55: Flare Blitz
TR59: Seed Bomb
TR62: Dragon Pulse
TR65: Energy Ball
TR67: Earth Power
TR69: Zen Headbutt
TR70: Flash Cannon
TR74: Iron Head
TR76: Stealth Rock
TR77: Grass Knot
TR86: Wild Charge
TR94: High Horsepower
Burning Jealousy
Grassy Glide
Terrain Pulse
Block (Snorlax)
Counter (Drednaw)
Dragon Breath (Charizard)
Nature Power (Venusaur)
Confide (Gen 7 TM)
Double Team (Gen 7 TM)
Dragon Tail (Gen 7 TM)
Incinerate (Gen 5/6 TM)
Roar (Gen 7 TM)
Rock Polish (Gen 7 TM)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM)
Toxic (Gen 7 TM)
Worry Seed (Gen 7 tutor)
Aromatherapy (Gen 7 egg)
Rock Smash (Gen 6 HM/TM)
Strength (Gen 6 HM/TM)
Ancient Power (Gen 4 Tutor)
Headbutt (Gen 4 tutor)
Mimic (Gen 4 egg)
Mud-Slap (Gen 4 Tutor)
Notes:
  • I automatically replaced Flame Burst with Flame Charge as the evolution move, to match Pyroak.
  • For Flarelms's Gen 7 TMs, Showdown claims that Flarelm does not learn Rock Polish, which is also completely missing from Pyroak's Gen 8 movepool and learnset, even though Rock Polish is in Flarelm's movepool final sub and is also in Pyroak's Gen 7 movepool. Showdown also says that it should learn Attract, even though the winning movepool doesn't have it. Energy Ball is also just completely missing from both the learnset and the update thread for reasons completely unknown to me.
    • Gave Attract and Energy Ball due to universality, same as Embirch. Inserted Rock Polish into transfer moves.
  • For Flarelm's Gen 7 tutors, there are 4 moves that aren't listed as tutors, although they also overlap with Flarelm's level up moves.
    • EDIT: Basically just ignored this and went with what was listed in the winning movepool.
  • See Embirch for issues with Flarelm's Gen 7 egg moves.
  • For Flarelm's transfer moves, Zap Cannon, Mimic, and Rock Climb are missing from the list in the final submission.
    • EDIT: Removed Zap Cannon and Rock Climb. Leaving Mimic for now due to the strange situuation.
EDIT: It was decided on Discord to roll with the winning updated movepool from Gen 7 and remove any inconsistencies from there, so I compiled the TM/TR and Transfer moves list accordingly. The one issue I ran into is Psybeam, which is not only missing from Showdown, but completely unpassable by anything in Pyroak's egg groups, with its origin (from ADV Parasect, per this thread) making no sense. Discord discussion lead to the deletion of Psybeam.

Wood Hammer
Flare Blitz
Heat Crash
Flash Cannon
Aromatic Mist
Zap Cannon
Burn Up

TM08: Hyper Beam
TM09: Giga Impact
TM12: Solar Blade
TR71: Leaf Storm
TR79: Heavy Slam

TR88: Heat Crash
TR94: High Horsepower

Scorching Sands
EDIT: As per the live meeting:
  • Remove Petal Blizzard, from past gens as well
  • IoA: Burning Jealousy, Grassy Glide, Terrain Pulse
  • New TMs: Magical Leaf, Swift, Dragon Dance
  • Other TMs: Flare Blitz
 
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Posting this now that the thread has been wrapped.

Astrolotl:astrolotl:
1 Mystical Fire
1 Magic Coat
1 Baton Pass
1 Pound
1 Tail Whip
1 Ember
Evo: Mystical Fire
12 Dragon Breath
15 Encore
19 Flame Wheel
23 Charm
26 Dragon Tail
30 Cosmic Power
34 Heal Bell
38 Fire Lash
41 -
48 Dragon Pulse
52 Healing Wish
57 Dragon Rush
62 Flare Blitz
TM03: Fire Punch
TM08: Hyper Beam
TM10: Magical Leaf
TM11: Solar Beam
TM13: Fire Spin
TM14: Thunder Wave
TM17: Light Screen
TM18: Reflect
TM19: Safeguard
TM21: Rest
TM24: Snore
TM25: Protect
TM29: Charm
TM31: Attract
TM34: Sunny Day
TM38: Will-O-Wisp
TM39: Facade
TM40: Swift
TM41: Helping Hand
TM44: Imprison
TM68: Fire Fang
TM76: Round
TM78: Acrobatics
TM81: Bulldoze
TM92: Mystical Fire
TM98: Stomping Tantrum
TM99: Breaking Swipe
TR02: Flamethrower
TR12: Agility
TR14: Metronome
TR15: Fire Blast
TR20: Substitute
TR23: Spikes
TR24: Outrage
TR26: Endure
TR27: Sleep Talk
TR29: Baton Pass
TR30: Encore
TR36: Heat Wave
TR37: Taunt
TR43: Overheat
TR44: Cosmic Power
TR47: Dragon Claw
TR55: Flare Blitz
TR62: Dragon Pulse
TR82: Stored Power
TR83: Ally Switch
TR85: Work Up
TR92: Dazzling Gleam
Draco Meteor
Meteor Beam
Scorching Sands
Defog [Noibat]
Life Dew [Milotic, Hattena]
Twister [Drampa]
Yawn [Swirlix]
Notes:
  • Removed Toxic and Explosion from egg moves, Trick from TM/TRs, and Knock Off and Wish from Level up due to the nerfs.
  • Astrolotl currently has a hole in its level up at Level 41, due to the removal of Wish. I believe the plan for this is to handle it during the next generation's movepool updates.
Solotl:solotl:
1 Pound
4 Tail Whip
8 Ember
12 Dragon Breath
15 Encore
19 Flame Wheel
23 Charm
26 Dragon Tail
30 Cosmic Power
34 Heal Bell
37 Fire Lash
41 -
45 Dragon Pulse
49 Healing Wish
53 Dragon Rush
57 Flare Blitz
TM10: Magical Leaf
TM11: Solar Beam
TM13: Fire Spin
TM14: Thunder Wave
TM17: Light Screen
TM18: Reflect
TM19: Safeguard
TM21: Rest
TM24: Snore
TM25: Protect
TM29: Charm
TM31: Attract
TM34: Sunny Day
TM38: Will-O-Wisp
TM39: Facade
TM40: Swift
TM41: Helping Hand
TM44: Imprison
TM76: Round
TM78: Acrobatics
TM92: Mystical Fire
TM99: Breaking Swipe
TR02: Flamethrower
TR12: Agility
TR14: Metronome
TR15: Fire Blast
TR20: Substitute
TR23: Spikes
TR24: Outrage
TR26: Endure
TR27: Sleep Talk
TR29: Baton Pass
TR30: Encore
TR36: Heat Wave
TR37: Taunt
TR43: Overheat
TR44: Cosmic Power
TR55: Flare Blitz
TR62: Dragon Pulse
TR82: Stored Power
TR83: Ally Switch
TR85: Work Up
TR92: Dazzling Gleam
Draco Meteor
Meteor Beam
Defog [Noibat]
Life Dew [Milotic, Hattena]
Twister [Drampa]
Yawn [Swirlix]
Notes:
  • Removed Toxic and Explosion from egg moves, Trick from TM/TRs, and Wish from Level up due to the nerfs. Solotl did not learn Knock Off before, so that isn't an issue.
  • Solotl has the hole in its level up at Level 41 as Astrolotl, due to the removal of Wish. See above for more info.
  • Added Meteor Beam due to the conclusions in this thread.
1 Mystical Fire
1 Magic Coat
1 Baton Pass

TM03 Fire Punch
TM08 Hyper Beam
TM68 Fire Fang
TM81 Bulldoze
TM98 Stomping Tantrum
TR47 Dragon Claw

Scorching Sands
 
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Miasmaw:miasmaw:
1 Dragon Hammer
1 Struggle Bug
1 Smokescreen
1 Dragon Breath
1 Bite
Evo Move: Dragon Hammer
12 Smog
17 Bug Bite
22 Poison Gas
29 Bug Buzz
36 Haze
43 Super Fang
52 Crunch
59 Dragon Pulse
66 Lunge
71 Giga Impact
TM07 Pin Missile
TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact
TM16 Screech
TM21 Rest
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM26 Scary Face
TM31 Attract
TM33 Rain Dance
TM34 Sunny Day
TM39 Facade
TM66 Thunder Fang
TM67 Ice Fang
TM68 Fire Fang
TM76 Round
TM81 Bulldoze
TM97 Brutal Swing
TM99 Breaking Swipe
TR00 Sword Dance
TR01 Body Slam
TR08 Thunderbolt
TR09 Thunder
TR10 Earthquake
TR12 Agility
TR18 Leech Life
TR20 Substitute
TR22 Sludge Bomb
TR24 Outrage
TR26 Endure
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR28 Megahorn
TR31 Iron Tail
TR32 Crunch
TR35 Uproar
TM37 Taunt
TR39 Superpower
TR47 Dragon Claw
TR53 Close Combat
TR57 Poison Jab
TR58 Dark Pulse
TR60 X-Scissor
TR61 Bug Buzz
TR62 Dragon Pulse
TR64 Focus Blast
TR67 Earth Power
TR68 Nasty Plot
TR70 Flash Cannon
TR74 Iron Head
TM85 Work Up
TR94 High Horsepower
Draco Meteor
Dual Wingbeat
Corrosive Gas
Skitter Smack
Aromatherapy - Ribombee
Dragon Rush - Garchomp
Dragon Tail - Milotic
First Impression - Golisopod, Haxorus
Poison Fang - Drapion
Recover - Orbeetle
No objections from me.

Miasmite:miasmite:
1 Struggle Bug
1 Smokescreen
4 Dragon Breath
8 Bite
12 Smog
16 Bug Bite
20 Poison Gas
26 Bug Buzz
30 Haze
36 Super Fang
40 Crunch
46 Dragon Pulse
52 Lunge
TM07 Pin Missile
TM16 Screech
TM21 Rest
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM26 Scary Face
TM31 Attract
TM33 Rain Dance
TM34 Sunny Day
TM39 Facade
TM66 Thunder Fang
TM67 Ice Fang
TM68 Fire Fang
TM76 Round
TM99 Breaking Swipe
TR00 Sword Dance
TR01 Body Slam
TR12 Agility
TR18 Leech Life
TR20 Substitute
TR22 Sludge Bomb
TR24 Outrage
TR26 Endure
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR31 Iron Tail
TR32 Crunch
TR35 Uproar
TM37 Taunt
TR39 Superpower
TR47 Dragon Claw
TR57 Poison Jab
TR58 Dark Pulse
TR60 X-Scissor
TR61 Bug Buzz
TR62 Dragon Pulse
TR67 Earth Power
TR70 Flash Cannon
TR74 Iron Head
TM85 Work Up
Draco Meteor
Corrosive Gas
Skitter Smack
Aromatherapy - Ribombee
Dragon Rush - Garchomp
Dragon Tail - Milotic
First Impression - Golisopod, Haxorus
Poison Fang - Drapion
Recover - Orbeetle
Notes:
  • Showdown claims that Miasmite learns Megahorn. I checked with G-Luke (the movepool creator) on Discord, and they said Miasmite should not get it, so I excluded it.
  • Showdown claims Miasmite learns Bite at Level 4 instead of the original movepool's Level 8. I stuck with the original movepool on this one.
  • Added in Aromatherapy, which is required due to being an egg move, as well as Sludge Bomb and Poison Jab due to the conclusions of this thread. These are all on Showdown already.
1 Dragon Hammer (evo move)
71 Giga Impact

TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact
TM81 Bulldoze
TM97 Brutal Swing
TM08 Thunderbolt
TM09 Thunder
TM10 Earthquake
TR28 Megahorn
TR53 Close Combat
TR64 Focus Blast
TR68 Nasty Plot
TR94 High Horsepower

Dual Wingbeat
 
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Voodoom:voodoom:
1 Revenge
1 Echoed Voice
1 Night Slash
1 Wrap
1 Astonish
1 Copycat
1 Pain Split
1 Spite
15 Grudge
19 Charge
20 Follow Me
22 Tearful Look
25 Pin Missile
30 Assurance
35 Close Combat
40 Acupressure
45 Aura Sphere
48 Hex
50 Substitute
55 Beat Up
61 Foul Play
Evolution: Revenge
TM04 Ice Punch
TM07 Pin Missile
TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact
TM14 Thunder Wave
TM16 Screech
TM21 Rest
TM22 Rock Slide
TM23 Thief
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM31 Attract
TM34 Sunny Day
TM37 Beat Up
TM39 Façade
TM42 Revenge
TM43 Brick Break
TM44 Imprison
TM57 Payback
TM58 Assurance
TM59 Fling
TM63 Drain Punch
TM72 Magic Room
TM75 Low Sweep
TM76 Round
TM77 Hex
TM79 Retaliate
TM81 Bulldoze
TM85 Snarl
TM96 Smart Strike
TM97 Brutal Swing
TR07 Low Kick
TR08 Thunderbolt
TR10 Earthquake
TR11 Psychic
TR14 Metronome
TR20 Substitute
TR26 Endure
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR35 Uproar
TR37 Taunt
TR42 Hyper Voice
TR48 Bulk Up
TR53 Close Combat
TR56 Aura Sphere
TR58 Dark Pulse
TR64 Focus Blast
TR68 Nasty Plot
TR70 Flash Cannon
TR75 Stone Edge
TR81 Foul Play
TR85 Work Up
TR93 Darkest Lariat
TR95 Throat Chop
Burning Jealousy
Coaching
Lash Out
Rising Voltage
Baton Pass (Mr. Mime)
Counter (Hitmonchan)
Mach Punch (Hitmonchan)
Memento (Stunky)
Mimic (Mr. Mime)
Perish Song (Cursola->Popplio)
Power Trip (Morpeko)
Sucker Punch (Diglett)
After You (Gen 7 tutor))
Focus Punch (Gen 7 tutor)
Knock Off (Gen 7 Tutor)
Magic Coat (Gen 7 Tutor)
Mud Slap (Gen 4 Tutor)
Power-Up Punch (Gen 6 TM)
Rock Smash (Gen 4 & 6 HM / Gen 5 & 6 TM)
Shock Wave (Gen 7 tutor)
Spite (Gen 7 Tutor)
Strength (Gen 4, 5 & 6 HM)
Vacuum Wave (Gen 4 Tutor)
Confide (Gen 7 TM)
Double Team (Gen 7 TM)
Dream Eater (Gen 7 TM)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM)
Torment (Gen 7 TM)
Toxic (Gen 7 TM)
Notes:
  • Added Echoed Voice to Voodoom's level 1, since Voodoll learns it as a level up move, but Voodoom doesn't. Echoed Voice in general needs to be added to Voodoom's learnset.
  • Had to insert Pin Missile, Beat Up, Revenge, Assurance, Hex, Close Combat, and Aura Sphere into TM/TRs in comparison to the update thread.
  • Nothing passes Mimic as an egg move this generation, although Mr. Mime would be a valid parent.
  • Popplio was Pokemon Home-only, which would affect Perish Song, although I'm not sure how much that matters.
  • The transfer moves list from the thread was a bit of a mess. I had to add in the TMs from Gen 7 only and remove some snapped/level-up moves.
  • EDIT May 16: added Sucker Punch in accordance to this poll.
Voodoll:voodoll:
1 Wrap
1 Astonish
1 Copycat
7 Pain Split
11 Spite
15 Echoed Voice
19 Charge
20 Follow Me
22 Tearful Look
25 Pin Missile
30 Assurance (formerly Feint Attack)
36 Acupressure
40 Aura Sphere
43 Hex
47 Substitute
51 Grudge
54 Foul Play
TM07 Pin Missile
TM14 Thunder Wave
TM16 Screech
TM21 Rest
TM23 Thief
TM24 Snore
TM25 Protect
TM31 Attract
TM34 Sunny Day
TM39 Façade
TM44 Imprison
TM57 Payback
TM58 Assurance
TM59 Fling
TM72 Magic Room
TM76 Round
TM77 Hex
TM79 Retaliate
TM85 Snarl
TR08 Thunderbolt
TR11 Psychic
TR14 Metronome
TR20 Substitute
TR26 Endure
TR27 Sleep Talk
TR35 Uproar
TR37 Taunt
TR42 Hyper Voice
TR56 Aura Sphere
TR58 Dark Pulse
TR68 Nasty Plot
TR81 Foul Play
TR85 Work Up
Burning Jealousy
Lash Out
Rising Voltage
Baton Pass (Mr. Mime)
Counter (Hitmonchan)
Mach Punch (Hitmonchan)
Memento (Stunky)
Mimic (Mr. Mime)
Perish Song (Cursola->Popplio)
Power Trip (Morpeko)
Sucker Punch (Diglett)
After You (Gen 7 tutor)
Knock Off (Gen 7 Tutor)
Magic Coat (Gen 7 Tutor)
Mud Slap (Gen 4 Tutor)
Power-Up Punch (Gen 6 TM)
Rock Smash (Gen 4 & 6 HM / Gen 5 & 6 TM)
Shock Wave (Gen 7 tutor)
Spite (Gen 7 Tutor)
Strength (Gen 4, 5 & 6 HM)
Vacuum Wave (Gen 4 Tutor)
Confide (Gen 7 TM)
Double Team (Gen 7 TM)
Dream Eater (Gen 7 TM)
Swagger (Gen 7 TM)
Torment (Gen 7 TM)
Toxic (Gen 7 TM)
Notes:
  • Automatically replaced Feint Attack with Assurance to match Voodoom.
  • Voodoll needs Echoed Voice needs to be added to its learnset.
  • Some of Voodoll's level up moves seem to be copied from Voodoom and have weird levels, specifically Aura Sphere (40 vs 45), Substitute (47 vs 50), and Grudge (51 vs 15). Stuck with the winning movepool for this.
  • Voodoll has no tutor moves in its winning movepool for some reason, even though there are Gen 7 tutor moves implemented for it on Showdown. I went off the Showdown tutors.
  • EDIT May 16: added Sucker Punch in accordance to this poll.
1 Night Slash
35 Close Combat
55 Beat Up

TM04 Ice Punch
TM08 Hyper Beam
TM09 Giga Impact
TM22 Rock Slide
TM37 Beat Up
TM43 Brick Break
TM63 Drain Punch
TM75 Low Sweep
TM81 Bulldoze
TM96 Smart Strike
TM97 Brutal Swing
TR07 Low Kick
TR10 Earthquake
TR48 Bulk Up
TR53 Close Combat
TR64 Focus Blast
TR70 Flash Cannon
TR75 Stone Edge
TR93 Darkest Lariat
TR95 Throat Chop

Coaching


Focus Punch (Gen 7 tutor)
EDIT: Per the live meeting, gave the following:
  • IoA: Burning Jealousy, Lash Out, Rising Voltage
 
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At this point, we've finished up the two Gen 8 prevos (Solotl and Miasmite), as well as the Gen 4 prevos that needed full movepools (Nohface, Monohm/Duohm, Dorsoil, and Protowatt).

In order to finish updating the rest of the prevos, we will be moving to the CAP Discord and running through them through a series of live meetings. The first of these meetings will take place on Saturday, July 31st, at 2 PM GMT-4 (timezone converter here). The current goal is to finish updating two or three lines per meeting, although we will see how things go. A second meeting is tentatively planned for Saturday, August 7th, at 9 PM GMT-4.

Huge thanks to kjnjkmjk1 for pushing so hard on this. We will get this done soon!
 
Results of Meeting 1
Justyke:
  • For IoA tutors, gave Steel Roller (Fairly consistent across Steel type evolutionary lines, besides two understandable exceptions in Meltan and Beldum)
  • For TMs, gave Body Slam (Hammer slamming things)
Mumbao:
  • For level up, moved Leafage to level 8, Helping Hand to level 13, Synthesis to level 35
  • For IoA Tutors, gave Grassy Glide (All the non legendary/UB mons that don't get is are very slow, Mumbao is faster than all of them) and Misty Explosion (Jumbao already has it, and Mumbao also has the Fairy type)
  • For TMs that Jumbao newly received this gen, gave Draining Kiss, Play Rough, Self-Destruct (Draining Kiss and Play Rough have wide distribution among Fairy types and are generally distributed to full lines, base forms like Seedot and Bonsly receive Self-Destruct so it was decided to allow Self-Destruct as well
  • For TMs of moves that Jumbao already had, gave Bullet Seed and Heavy Slam (they had very slightly increased distributions this generation, and they fit Mumbao)
  • Removed Hyper Beam (Mumbao is an prevo)
Smogecko/Smoguana:
Did not get far. Here's a proposed resolution to Smogecko's level up woes, particularly the lack of available replacement for Flame Burst. The fixes are moving Incinerate to level 25 to replace Flame Burst, moving Dig to level 34 to replace Flame Burst, and adding Flare Blitz to level 47.
1 Scratch
1 Ember
4 Tail Whip
4 Smokescreen
7 Lick
10 Smog
13 Mud Shot
15 Flame Wheel
19 Bulldoze
22 Incinerate (formerly Flame Burst)
26 Lava Plume
30 Toxic (formerly Camouflage)
34 Dig (Incinerate was here)
40 Flamethrower
44 Screech
47 Flare Blitz (Dig was here)

EDIT
Smogecko:
  • IoA Scorching Sands, Scale Shot
  • New TMs: Fire Fang, Venom Drench
  • Other TMs: Fire Punch
Smoguana:
  • IoA Scorching Sands, Burning Jealousy, Corrosive Gas, Scale Shot
  • New TMs: Fire Fang, Venom Drench, Cross Poison
  • Other TMs: None
Fawnifer
  • IoA: Grassy Glide
  • New TMs: Charm, Swift, Leaf Storm, Bullet Seed
  • Other TMs: Grassy Terrain, Hyper Voice
Electrelk
  • IoA: Grassy Glide, Rising Voltage
  • New TMs: Charm, Swift, Leaf Storm, Bullet Seed, Eerie Impulse, Throat Chop, Solar Blade
  • Other TMs: Grassy Terrain, Hyper Voice
Swirlpool
  • IoA: Skitter Smack
  • New TMs: Swift, Dive, Guard Swap, Draining Kiss, Body Slam, Skill Swap, Muddy Water, Ally Switch, Venom Drench, Future Sight
  • Other TMs: Whirlpool, Metronome
Coribalis
  • IoA: Skitter Smack
  • New TMs: Swift, Dive, Guard Swap, Razor Shell, Draining Kiss, Body Slam, Skill Swap, Muddy Water, X-Scissor, Ally Switch, Venom Drench, Future Sight
  • Other TMs: Whirlpool, Metronome
 
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Just to add on to Kj's post, Swirlpool and Coribalis have also been completed as part of Meeting 1.5 held today.

Swirlpool
IoA Tutors: Skitter Smack
New TMs: Swift, Dive, Guard Swap, Draining Kiss, Body Slam, Skill Swap, Muddy Water, Ally Switch, Venom Drench, Future Sight
Existing TM/TRs: Whirlpool, Metronome

Coribalis
IoA Tutors: Skitter Smack, Dual Wingbeat
New TMs: Swift, Dive, Guard Swap, Razor Shell, Draining Kiss, Body Slam, Skill Swap, Muddy Water, X-Scissor, Ally Switch, Venom Drench, Future Sight
Existing TM/TRs: Whirlpool, Metronome

Some explanations in terms of what may appear to be weird flavour:
Body Slam is learnt by a bunch of squidgy invertebrates like Goomy and Shellos which made it fitting for both here. Both have Psychic and therefore Future Sight and Skill Swap seemed justifiable. Draining Kiss fits because they're both reasonably cute. Venom Drench finally because they learn Toxic in their level-up pool and it is rarely a final stage only move.
 
For those interested, we're planning on holding more meetings this weekend. The first of these will be taking place on Friday, August 6th, at around 8 PM GMT-4, on the CAP Discord. Our goal is to get through the Gen 6 prevos in this meeting. We will likely be holding a second meeting on Saturday, August 7th, at around 7 PM GMT-4, with the goal of getting through another generation (either Generation 4, which has the most lines of any generation to look at with 6, or Generation 5, which has three lines with a bunch of issues).
 

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We've just finished our second session of updates and have done all of Gen 6 and a few from Gen 5 as well. Tomorrow at the same time 8PM GMT-4 we will be finishing Gen 5 with Scratchet, Necturine, Cupra and Argalis, and hopefully attempting some from Gen 4 such as Voodoll and Privatyke.

Here is a summary of the changes.

Brattler
IoA Tutors: Grassy Glide, Lash Out, Scale Shot, Skitter Smack
TM/TRs - Weather Ball, Nasty Plot, Endure
Level up tweaks: Removed Glare L1, Crunch changed to L35

Malaconda
Level-up tweaks: Spiky Shield and Power Whip positions swapped to be consistent with Brattler

Cawdet
IoA Tutors: Dual Wingbeat
New TM/TRs - Whirlpool, Beat Up, Assurance, Metronome, Endure, Iron Defense
Transfer - Water Pulse, Shock Wave (Gen 7 Tutor)
Level-up tweaks: All moves moves down to replace the gap left by Belly Drum (which it never had *cough*)

Volkritter

IoA Tutors: Flip Turn, Scorching Sands, Skitter Smack
TM/TRs - Bounce, Muddy Water
Transfer - Covet, Infestation (Gen 7 tutor / tm moves)

Snugglow

IoA tutors - Rising Voltage
TM/TRs - Electroweb, iron tail, poison jab, zen headbutt, electro ball
transfers - Block, Magnet Rise (Gen 7 Tutors)

Floatoy

New TM/TRs - Crunch, Screech, Muddy Water, Body Slam, Brutal Swing, Focus Energy

Caimanoe

Level-up - Heavy Slam added to 66
IoA - Scale Shot, Steel Roller
TMs/TRs - Heavy Slam, Screech, Brutal Swing, Body Slam, Crunch, Muddy Water, Body Press, Focus Energy

Naviathan
Level-up tweak: Heavy Slam changed from level 68 to 78

Pluffle

IoA tutors: Misty Explosion
TMs - Magic Room, Misty Terrain, Body Slam, Uproar, Ally Switch, Work Up, Metronome, Beat Up
Level-up: Charm added to level 10

Kerfluffle
Level up tweaks:
Charm added to L1 to account for it in Pluffle's movepool

Explanations for some controversial moves:
Volkritter was given Scorching Sands because it lives on the seafloor near sand and can be justified as some level of burrowing, sand connection from the Sizzlipede example which is the only other prevo Fire-type to get it.
Flip Turn was justified on Volkritter because its on a few other prevos like Skrelp and Clauncher.
Pluffle and Floatoy receive Body Slam like the other balloon Pokemon but not press.
Cawdet and Pluffle receive beat-up as a range of cute lower-level Pokemon receive it such as Cottonee and the Nidorans
Brattler receives Weather ball as a few different sun based grass types receive it such as Cherubi and Fomantis
 
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Really picking up some momentum, only four families left after today's session! Through our Discord updates channel we got through the rest of Gen 5 and about half of the remaining Gen 4 prevos.

Here is a summary of the updates.

Rebble

IoA Meteor Beam
TMs - Speed Swap, Hyper Beam

Tactite

IoA Meteor Beam
TMs - Removed Giga Impact
LU - Removed Speed Swap (only in Pheromosa's LU)

Stratagem

LU - Removed Speed Swap (only in Pheromosa's LU)

Privatyke

IoA - Coaching, Lash Out, Skitter Smack
TMs Mega Punch, Body Slam, Muddy Water, Throat Chop
Transfer - Psych Up (Gen 7 TM), Vacuum Wave (Gen 4)

Voodoll

IoA - Burning Jealousy, Lash Out, Rising Voltage
TM/TRs - None

Scratchet

IoA - Coaching
TMs - Mega Punch, Mega Kick, Revenge, Body Slam, Reversal, Endure, Sleep Talk, Close Combat, Throat Chop

Necturine

IoA - Grassy Glide, Skitter Smack
TMs - Endure
LU - Moved all LU moves down one spot, added Seed Bomb to Necturna at level 50

Cupra

New Moves

IoA - Skitter Smack, Expanding Force, Dual Wingbeat
TMs - Imprison, Psychic Terrain

Argalis

New Moves

IoA - Skitter Smack, Expanding Force, Dual Wingbeat
TMs - Imprison, Psychic Terrain
Level-up tweaks - Sunny Day moved to L1, Double Team added to L1, Imprison added to L27

Explanations for some potentially controversial moves and other changes:

Rebble and Tactite despitebeing the most simple did have some minor disagreements between their original flavour in terms of Speed Swap being on both Tactite and Stratagem despite not being a LU move for any Pokemon apart from Pheromosa and Alolan Raichu (who lost it from its LU pool in Gen 8 in favour of it becoming a TM). For this reason it was decided that they would become TM only. Additionally Tactite had both Hyper Beam and Giga Impact in its original movepool, and based on the examples of Pokemon such as Remoraid, Nuzleaf and Amaura, it was instead decidedto give both Rebble and Tactite Hyper Beam, and to remove Giga Impact.
Privatyke was not given access to Hydro Pump based on the example of Wingull, Krabby and Binacle.
Necturine's access to Seed Bomb was controversial in comparison to the original Necturna, and as a result it was decided from a series of different options that Seed Bomb would be added to Necturna's LU pool in the equivalent position.
 
In a few hours (starting around 8 PM GMT-4), we'll be doing our (hopefully) last live meeting for the prevos on the CAP Discord, covering Syclar, Embirch/Flarelm, and Breezi, the last prevos left. We will also be doing a quick review of the completed movepools to go over level up cadences and generally fixing them to fit the trends for movepools established this generation.
 
Syclar
  • IoA: Skitter Smack
  • New TMs: Ice Fang, Swift, Screech
Embirch
  • Remove Petal Blizzard, from past gens as well
  • IoA: Grassy Glide, Terrain Pulse
  • New TMs: Magical Leaf, Swift, Dragon Dance
  • Other TMs: Flare Blitz, Amnesia
Flarelm
  • Remove Petal Blizzard, from past gens as well
  • IoA: Burning Jealousy, Grassy Glide, Terrain Pulse
  • New TMs: Magical Leaf, Swift, Dragon Dance
  • Other TMs: Flare Blitz
Pyroak
  • Move Petal Blizzard to level 1, for past gens as well
Breezi
  • New TMs: Bounce, Speed Swap, Self-Destruct
  • Other TMs: Magic Room, Wonder Room
  • Swap Gunk Shot and Acrobatics in level up
 
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Alright, after a pretty colossal month, and the incredible work of kjnjkmjk1 and DHR-107 for getting this all started, the movepool updates are completely finished. It cannot be understated the scale of such a project but it was well worth doing as we will be completely safe for the rest of the generation and well-equipped to deal with any more generational changes (though I don't look forward to that).

The final part of this project that hasn't received a wide range of discussion on this thread yet, is that it was also necessary to go through and alter the movepool order as well as the level-up intervals to be more consistent with Gen 8 standards. MaahirMomtaz12 helped clarify the logic and compile the movepools for Breezi, Scratchet and Cupra, while I went through and did the rest. Furthermore because of the logic of Gen 8 having very few families with moves past level 70 (there are a few exception with Aggron and Luxray that came in with the DLC) a few TM/TR moves were removed from level-up movepools or other moves moved to level 1 or in a few cases where movepools were too short a few existing moves from evolutions as well as TM/TRs were added. A list of changes is mentioned below:

Syclar and Syclant - removed Hail
Pyroak - removed flash cannon, heat crash aromatic mist and zap cannon now L1
Revenankh - removed Rock Tomb and Power Whip
Tactite and Stratagem - removed Speed Swap, Mud Shot and Earth Power
Duohm and Cyclohm - removed Weather Ball
Colossoil - removed Bounce and Giga Impact
Voodoom - removed Assurance, Substitute and Beat Up

Scratchet - added Power-Up-Punch
Tomohawk - removed Heat Wave, Rest moved to L1
Mollux removed Heat Wave and Gunk Shot
Cupra - added Imprison, Double Team and Psychic
Malaconda - removed Power Whip

Plasmanta - removed Eerie Impulse, Cross Poison

Pajantom - removed Toxic Spikes and Imprison - Dragon Rush moved to Egg moves
Smokomodo - Fissure moved to L1
Equilibra - removed Earthquake and Mud Shot, Perish Song moved to level 1

Caimanoe - removed Flash Cannon, Hurricane and Self-Destruct
naviathan - removed Flash Cannon, Hurricane and Self-Destruct, Wide Guard moved to L1

Jumbao - removed Bullet Seed

I have compiled the final list of the movepools in a pastebin based on kjnjkmjk1's format here including the new LU changes. I will keep this thread open for at least a week from now so that any concerns or questions can be voiced before they're fully finalised, or any tweaks or mistakes can be addressed.

Final Gen 8 movepools: https://pastebin.com/raw/Vyywn5Jr

Please do feel free to comment or discuss any of the final movepools, unfortunately I haven't been able to keep a 'full' changelog but the comments here that we have compiled to discuss the changes can serve as a basis.

The only other topic that I would like to propose and discuss is changing Astrolotl's evolution method to be a Stone evolution of either the Dawn or Shiny stone. This is quite an unprecedented development and emerges specifically because, as our first process in Gen 8, because we as a community weren't actually aware of how to handle Gen 8 movepools, and specifically the fact that Stone evolutions now require all moves to be at Level 1 (outside of a few specific examples such as Vikavolt), Solotl's evolution was by default chosen to occur at Lv 35. This particular situation should never happen again due to the way that we now handle final movepools, and as a result does not have any further implications on the project. At this stage, both Solotl and Astrolotl's movepools are completed and are fine to continue with the default evolution method of Lv 35 but I thought I would propose this as there was previously a lot of support for Solotl to evolve into Astrolotl either with the Dawn (if female) or Shiny Stone and as a result of this general movepool process, this is the only time in which it could actually be amended.
 
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Still have a bit more work on my end in terms of finishing a final TM check, but I'm just glad to finally see the end of the tunnel on this.

The only other topic that I would like to propose and discuss is changing Astrolotl's evolution method to be a Stone evolution of either the Dawn or Shiny stone. This is quite an unprecedented development and emerges specifically because, as our first process in Gen 8, because we as a community weren't actually aware of how to handle Gen 8 movepools, and specifically the fact that Stone evolutions now require all moves to be at Level 1 (outside of a few specific examples such as Vikavolt), Solotl's evolution was by default chosen to occur at Lv 35. This particular situation should never happen again due to the way that we now handle final movepools, and as a result does not have any further implications on the project. At this stage, both Solotl and Astrolotl's movepools are completed and are fine to continue with the default evolution method of Lv 35 but I thought I would propose this as there was previously a lot of support for Solotl to evolve into Astrolotl either with the Dawn (if female) or Shiny Stone and as a result of this general movepool process, this is the only time in which it could actually be amended.
My opinion on this is that this isn't necessary and we should just keep it as-is. A stone evolution isn't exactly out of this world, but level up fits just fine. For what it's worth, I wasn't around for Astrolotl's process, so I didn't see any of the discussions around that.
 
I prefer Astrolotl evolving from Solotl by level-up staying as is, but Shiny Stone can also work if people want that. We can just retain level up.
 

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