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Chris Benoit found dead with family

mirza said:
Damn dude, I never thought Benoit out of all people would kill his own wife and kid and then himself. That's fucking crazy..... I don't think anyone with a right mind would do this. I think it's probably due to steroids because even if he was stressed, I doubt he'd kill his own familiy. I'm 99% sure it was due to steroid use...or he could of been psycho.
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the whole bible thing makes it seem a little too premeditated to be simple roid rage
 
The amount of stress that pro wrestling puts on some of its people is tremendous.

But for Benoit to do such an act, something must have went terribly wrong.

RIP
 
Glen said:
the whole bible thing makes it seem a little too premeditated to be simple roid rage
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I don't agree with judging the bible thing as it being more premeditated at all. I interpereted it as he realized what he did and put them with them to sybolize them going to heaven or something like that.


Very little is known about the effects of head injuries. One of his favorite spots for his 20 year career was to legit headbutt people ffs, so his brain couldn't have been in perfect condition. Christopher Nowinski, a former wrestler who has studies concussions extensively and written a book about them has been trying to get the coroner to examine Benoit's brain for signs of a traumatic head injury, but the last I checked it wasn't going over well. If this was a result of a head injury, which is very well could be, who knows if the coroners would even know considering how little is known about the long term effects of head injuries.
 
All you fuckheads really piss me off when you say that you don't care if he was suffering from mental illness. I don't think you all know what its like to lose yourself to mental illness. I. I am bipolar. And I've slipped into episodes where my thinking hasn't been 100% rational. Have I ever thought of killing myself? Yes. Have I ever purposely caused myself bodily harm? Yes, I used to burn myself. Did I have 100% control over how I felt during these times? Absofuckinglutely not. Thanks to medication and therapy I've bettered myself.

Am I saying that Chris Benoit was bipolar, fuck no I'm not. But everyone jumping to conclusions without all results from the investigation coming in is fucking ignorant.

I've lived almost my whole life being the outsider, being misunderstood. I mean shit, many members here dislike me, and more than once I've been the object of everyone's criticisms and anger here on Smogon. It sickens me that you all assume the worst without having the facts.

I am not denying the fact that he MAY HAVE killed himself and his family without any mental injury or illness, but for everyone to jump to conclusions fucking pisses me off, because I know how it feels to be misunderstood, I know how it feels for people to ASSUME they know me or how or why I function.

Any and all of you who don't understand mental illness and make judgments in your ignorance can suck my fat dick.

I have not watched professional wrestling in 3 years, but Chris Benoit was one of my favorite wrestlers, up there with Bill Goldberg, Jeff Hardy, Sting, and Hulk Hogan. I'm going to reserve my judgments of him after I get the facts, after we know the cause and the reasoning for this terrible incident. And you know, we may never know anything as to why it happened. And I'm not afraid to be the one person on this forum, or even the world, that pities him if he was indeed suffering from mental illness or injury.

Fuck this thread pisses me off.
 
Balou said:
..because he disagrees with you?
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No, because the poster started off by telling people to 'get off their high horse' and then immediately jumped onto a high horse of his own and never came down.

Anyway, I was sad at first, but now I don't know what to think. How can you honor someone who killed his family? Regardless of the circumstances, he shouldn't be inducted into any hall of fame or have any memorials or any of that stuff. He killed his family for Christ's sake. And i'm not saying that he was definitely some murderous lunatic - I tend to think that some kind of medication made him flip his lid - but the circumstances shouldn't matter at all when you do something like he did.
 
Benoit was an athlete who competed all over the world. I'd rather remember him as that. RIP Benoit Family.
 
kholdstaire said:
All you fuckheads really piss me off when you say that you don't care if he was suffering from mental illness. I don't think you all know what its like to lose yourself to mental illness. I. I am bipolar. And I've slipped into episodes where my thinking hasn't been 100% rational. Have I ever thought of killing myself? Yes. Have I ever purposely caused myself bodily harm? Yes, I used to burn myself. Did I have 100% control over how I felt during these times? Absofuckinglutely not. Thanks to medication and therapy I've bettered myself.

Am I saying that Chris Benoit was bipolar, fuck no I'm not. But everyone jumping to conclusions without all results from the investigation coming in is fucking ignorant.

I've lived almost my whole life being the outsider, being misunderstood. I mean shit, many members here dislike me, and more than once I've been the object of everyone's criticisms and anger here on Smogon. It sickens me that you all assume the worst without having the facts.

I am not denying the fact that he MAY HAVE killed himself and his family without any mental injury or illness, but for everyone to jump to conclusions fucking pisses me off, because I know how it feels to be misunderstood, I know how it feels for people to ASSUME they know me or how or why I function.

Any and all of you who don't understand mental illness and make judgments in your ignorance can suck my fat dick.

I have not watched professional wrestling in 3 years, but Chris Benoit was one of my favorite wrestlers, up there with Bill Goldberg, Jeff Hardy, Sting, and Hulk Hogan. I'm going to reserve my judgments of him after I get the facts, after we know the cause and the reasoning for this terrible incident. And you know, we may never know anything as to why it happened. And I'm not afraid to be the one person on this forum, or even the world, that pities him if he was indeed suffering from mental illness or injury.

Fuck this thread pisses me off.
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I know where you're coming from since I know a good number of bi-polar kids in my school. Yeah, I agree with you that people jumping to conclusions is gay, and I did it myself with my steroid use accusation.

I don't feel like posting any links right now, but I did see a story on my Internet homepage about Benoit's death, and police have reported that they did find steroids in his home and that's where my accusation came from.

To be honest with you, I think he did have a mental illness or some kind of drive from the steroid use. I'm saying this because I find it very hard for a sane man to kill his wife and kids. I honestly don't think a man like Benoit with his great success would commit murder and suicide if it weren't for mental illness.

Basically, if Benoit was suffering from a mental illness, he should of tried to get help and not hide it from everyone. No, I'm not assuming he had an illness and was hiding it, this is just an "if" situation. Just like you said medication and therapy helped you, Benoit should of tried to get help IF he did have an illness and IF he was hiding it.

As for steroid use, if he did this due to steroids, I could never forgive him and I'd lose all of my respect for him. Using steroids is a risk and he knew what he was getting into when he started taking them. Don't tell me I'm ignorant because I know some guys that I used to weightlift with, and some of them had some serious issues with roids. This is also an "if" situation.

I'm not trying to jump to conclusions even though it's tempting. I'm going to wait for the full story and investigation to get finished before making my judgement on him, just like you are.
 
uh you see

we have the facts

those being that chris benoit's family died and that there is no evidence to support anything besides a murder-suicide, and that there was definitely evidence of it being a pre-meditated crime, essentially ruling out steroids having anything to do, at least directly, with the crime.

Personally I do not believe that he was just a cold-blooded killer and just up and decided to kill his family; obviously a mental illness of some sort had something to do with it, but how the hell does that excuse him from what he did? I couldn't care less if he actually had control over his actions at the time of the murder, because the fact of the matter is that he had control over the lifestyle that he chose, taking chair shots to the back of the head (something I understand is not typical), possibly (probably) involving himself with steroids, being forced to go on the road almost every single day of his life, and getting his ass thrown all around a wrestling ring for, what, twenty years, when a history of violence and abuse of his wife showed very clearly that he couldn't handle such a lifestyle.

He chose to make an idiotic life decision without actually taking into consideration the possible consequences, and then, years later, his wife almost got a divorce as a result and still went on with his obvious self-destruction? Seems like his fault to me.



edit: seems it was steroids after all, but I'm too lazy to give a source right now.
 
Sorry to bring this thread back up, but I just want to express my opinion's of my favorite wrestler.

Chris's autopsy revealed that he had recieved so many concusions that his brain was like an 85 year old man with Alzheimers Syndrome. Those concussions led Chris to dementia and he wound up killing his wife and one of his kids. It is sad that Benoit didn't get help which would of prevented this tragedy.

May him and his family rest in peace

EDIT: I hope on making him a CAW in SvR 08
 
Does anyone know Andre Waters? He was a long time NFL defensive back who killed himself recently at 44. When the new information came up about Benoit's brain damage, that's who I immediately compared it to, since he had a diagnosis of his brain similar to that of Waters (old man with Alzheimers).

I just found the similarity between the two cases very compelling, and it may be grounds for a reevaluation of the way we examine "contact sports".
 
Ugh, I feel so sick because some asshole is publishing a goddamn book about Benoit's murder-suicide. Let him rest in peace with his family and let us all remember him for his great technical skill which he needed no gimmick for.
 
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