Why would Ursaring use Trash when he has Facade to work with?
Thunder Wave is obviously the big one, but the new Lightningrod will prevent folks from just spamming TWaves I recon.
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Thunder Wave is obviously the big one, but the new Lightningrod will prevent folks from just spamming TWaves I recon.
It's unlikely Thrash will see much usage. Unlike, Outrage, its typing does not gain notable neutral coverage. Many Normal types, such as Khan that you suggested, have large HPs and access to Double-Edge if they want power. And next to that, Return offers more power than the Dragon's alternative, Dragon Claw.
Petal Dance could see use. Power Whip is not wide spread, and has accuracy issues. It entirely depends on what new Pokemon receive it in this generation though, because Venasaur, who has Power Whip, looks like the only candidate to employ its worth. And once again, unlike Outrage with Dragon typing, being stuck in a Grass move is troublesome.
Somebody said that in other thread...
Facade is still more powerful.
Also, Bullet Seed is no longer a TM so I don't think we'll be able to get it onto Technician Breloom.
I'm fairly certain Technician doesn't work for every hit of a multi-hit move, but the total of all hits.
Not true. An example that is commonly used is Double Hit Scizor (for Zapdos).
I'm not sure if I was seeing things, but it appeared to me like Youteri started holding the same item as my opponent when the foe consumed it (it had pickup before evolving). Can anyone confirm this for me? I can't test it anymore because Haderia doesn't get it. Instead, it gets the ability that lets it get double speed in a sandstorm.
Sorry. :( I was certain I read it somwhere... oh well, I suppose it would be a good move on a Technician Pokemon. It would add a large element of luck to battles...
Going to rip through pkmn using subs. A lot of bulky water types relying on that could be destroyed. Although a lot of them have a got boiling water which would hurt breloom with the burn but I imagine 5 seeds will still break a sub
Facade is still better than Thrash if you have a Burn, since its Base Power doubles to 140. Also, being locked into a move isn't a very good idea so I'd just go with Return on non-Guts/Quick Feet boosting sets.
As far as I know, Doom Desire and Future Sight have the same effects, but just received a power and accuracy boost, so special attack based, and always deals neutral damage despite having types to them.
Any word on fire spin?
If Whirlpool got a boost, i don't see why fire spin didn't, its the original trapping move IIRC
If Whirlpool got a boost, i don't see why fire spin didn't, its the original trapping move IIRC
Twave is so annoying now, even if doesn't hit ground types. What's the point in having an ability that gives you an electric immunity if it doesn't work on one of the most popular electric attacks? I love Lanturn and he's been a beast on my Gen 4 team, but he just lost his number one job: Absorbing Twave. I'm sure the Zebra and Manectric are crying in a corner somewhere now since they just got an almost pointless boost to their lightning rod abilities. Hell, even Motor Drive is near useless now that you don't get the speed boost.
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@omegamewtwo
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Wrap and Bind are also in 1st Gen. So there are 3 original Trapping moves.
EDIT: Forgot about Clamp. That's 4 trapping moves.
Reckless Hitmonlee with Hi-Jump Kick just had to be ruined by Shanderaa...
Maybe Limber would be more popular now...
Maybe Limber would be more popular now...
Anyone know how Triple and Rotation battles work yet?
Yes, Fire Spin now has 35 power and 85 accuracy. Wrap has 90 accuracy (but still 15 power). Bind has 85 accuracy (but still 15 power). Clamp has 85 accuracy (and still 35 power).
Magma Storm even got a bump up from 70 to 75 accuracy.
Looks like this might be the new effect of Pick Up
Wasn't the Twave vs. ground thing a big hoax? <_<;
They rolled back the change they made to thunderwave in generation 4? Goddamnit, that's frustrating. That was the biggest improvement Jolteon had seen, and now he's going to be restricted to switching in for free healing on thunderbolts again, like in generation 3.
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