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Do scores in battle mean anything?

Ive been 6-0d 2 times by people I know im better then, one time he crit haxed my counter for his big threat and it got an extra turn to setup. The other time the person just had the exact right thing to counter that specific team.

Both of those guys Ive beaten every other time so I dont think it means much. I know on Gamefaqs people say "Well I 5-0d him, while you only 3-0d him so im clearly better" which is stupid imo.
 
If you win one match 6-0 it doesn't show much. However, if one person wins ten or fifteen matches in a row, all 6-0 or 5-0 victories, I'm going to consider them a tougher challenge than someone who won that many matches in a row all 1-0 or 2-0 victories. Obviously to win that many matches in a row, you have to have great prowess, but if you 6-0 everyone you face, that shows that you not only defeat everyone, but you defeat them without losing a single pokemon, that shows that you play smart and run circles around your opponent, stopping every chance at offense he has.

Now if you're talking about just one battle, this doesn't really mean anything. You can't really tell anything about a battler's skill by just looking at the score of one battle.

In comparison, people might find the person that won 6-0 a better battler than the person who won 1-0. While all along a sweeper team can easily defeat a stall team.
I don't really understand what you are trying to say here. So the stall team user wins handily, while the sweeper team just gets by. This is just one match, and it doesn't prove anything. (except for the newbie he lost twice so sucks for him)

But uh... are you saying that sweeper teams can beat stall teams; therefore the sweeper user is a better battler because his team starts out with a large advantage? That makes no sense. If the sweeper starts out with the advantage and wins, that proves nothing. (If the sweeper team starts out with the advantage and still loses, that might prove something, but that's a different point).

You can't assume that just because team A is better than team B, and team B can beat team C, that team A will hold an advantage against team C. That reasoning only works in straight up math; this is strategy rather than math. Think of it like rock-paper-scissors. Rock can beat scissors, and scissors cuts paper. If you use the transitive property of math, then rock must be much better than paper, but you can't use that property because again rock paper scissors is strategy rather than math. (it's very simplistic strategy but many strategy games draw directly from the rock paper scissors triangle)




Anyway I also wanted to connect this to sports to support my argument that scores do matter somewhat. Lets say a basketball team plays two teams in a best-of-five format (remember one match doesn't really say much).

They beat the first team 95-40, 97-55, and 103-49. They beat the second team 99-98, 96-88, and 107-105.

Now the losing teams (lets assume that they play similar styles so that the strategy thing doesn't come into play, they are rock-rock if you will) play each other. Both teams lost all three games. If the scores truly don't matter, then you would have no idea which team would win. I however, look at the scores, and see that one team clearly sucks balls.

Translate this into pokemon, and it would be the team that lost 15 matches in a row, all 6-0.





Anyway tl;dr version, I say that if you 6-0 a person, it doesn't say too much unless you can do it consistently (like 10+ times in a row). However, if you consistently 6-0 people, then yes, the score does show that you are a good battler.
 
I've never given any importance to the score of a pokemon battle. Sometimes you can increase your chances of winning by sacrificing a pokemon, so it would be the smarter move, and winning by a lower score shouldn't make it look like a worse win in that case.
This sums up a lot of my feelings. Using a suicide lead that's meant to do its job then die certainly doesn't make you any worse of a battler, and sacrificing Pokemon to weaken an opponent or bring in a free switch is part of the game.
 
...score doesn't matter- I've been 6-0'ed and I've 6-0'ed people- just now I got 5-0'ed after I accidentally Tricked a Choice Specs onto a Heatran, with my Gyarados KO'ed, and all I had was Blissey at around 50%,Skymin,Metagross and Scizor...yeah I could have beat the guy, it just took one mistake- one or 2 misses in a row, and a Gyarados can get 3 DD's and sweep- it's mostly luck- it would mean something if there was no hax and someone did it constantly in a row, but there's really nothing to a final score- winning 6-0 or 1-0 it means the same thing.
 
I think that to an outsider the score matters, but all you should really care about is how close you thought you were. For example, I lost a game 6-0 with the opponent's current poke at 1%, and sandstorm up. Every other poke would have died to stealth rock when they switched in. However, he gloated about a 6-0 for the next day, and I had to explain the situation to everyone.
 
Score doesn't mean anything. What if your strategy is to have 5 exploders and a sweeper? It's obvious you're aiming for a 1-0 score here. It doesn't mean your win is any worse.
 
Well yea... I was trying to rank myself up the ladder about a week ago and made it to all the way to rank 10 in 4 days. Then I just stopped Shoddy Battling for the whole since since I had state tests and Regents. So I bumped into Husk that day. Well this battle was a fluke, a perfect win for me. I only used 3 neccessary pokemons the entire match. Usually when me and Husk battle all the battles are epic and end in either 2-0 or 1-0. But I decided to warstory this because 6-0'ing Husk is no joke.

Hypocrite.
 
Wow, Arin that warstory is the complete opposite of what you tell here. It even got locked for "6-0"(6-3 before he left) This is soo weird.
 
The score is not improtant. You can have your team owned by a shuckle's toxic, and have 1 pokemon left, and that pokemon may be luke or anything and can still sweep.
 
Score can't mean anything. If you sacrifice three pokemon to set up a lategame Scizor sweep, why would sacrificing those pokemon not be considered the better move? If you have a choice between keeping a pokemon alive and increasing your chance to win, you should always increase your chance to win.
 
A win is a win. A loss is a loss, period.

The only thing about pokemon is that the best player can lose with fair ease to only a decent player. IE, compared to something like chess you could say "a pro" has a relatively high chance of losing to a "strong amatuer." Which is why the goal on ladder is not about each win but winning over a long period.
 
Scores rarely matter. The only time I think it matters if if its somehting ridiculus like 6-0. That doesn't mean anything, but it does make you look back and think about why you where beaten like that. Was it hax? Did you play poorly? Did you just forget to counter one pokemon that ended up owning you? It doesn't mean you're a noob if you're beaten 6-0, it just means you need to see what went wrong.
 
Okay well, I guess your intentions are in the right place, but your past really isn't gonna help out your credibility in this thread..

Anyway, I've never given a crap about the score. If I win 1-0, or if I win 6-0, it's a win, no matter how many ways you look at it, it's always gonna stay a win. The score really reflects nothing about a battle, half the time I get 6-0'd it's generally cause a crit killed my counter to a specific pokemon, but still, I could of had the advantage throughout the game, and then one little thing can drastically change the game. It's really 2 opinions vs. one another; nothing more, nothing less.
 
The score at the end of the battle really depends on the type of team you run. Stall teams will usually have a high win margin (6-0, 5-0, 4-0) while offensive teams may have a lower win ratio (due to suicide leads and not having as many safe switches, therefore sacrificing pokemon to keep the momentum). Hell even explosion teams are designed to get 1-0 wins. But this does not mean that one style of play is better than another.

It all depends how you play. 6-0 is not necessarily better than 1-0. Some teams intentionally sacrifice pokemon to let others sweep and never get that 6-0, but this does not mean its any worse then another team.
 
A win is a win in my book, whether it's 6-0, or 1-0. You've already demonstrated that the battle went in your favor or that you're better than your opponent, it doesn't matter by how much.
 
The only time a 6-0 matters is if you dont need to switch out any pokemon-this has happened to me before. One example is that my Gyarados leads, and gets up 4 DDs. There is abosutely no way any team can handle a LO Gyarados with 70% health and 4 DDs. And also, no player would let anybody get into that situation. So if it is a clear 6-0 like that, then yes, score does matter. But if my blissey gets killed by a crit Focus Blast from a Specs Alakazam, no, it doesnt matter, if Blissey is my only Special wall. Ive lost anyway, it will most likely be a 6-0 (well, no, but say i had Bliss and a Machamp left against a LO Alakazam, and Bliss got critted-then no score doesnt matter it was unfair anyway ^^).
 
if I beat anyone with a score more than 3-0 or so, something is seriously wrong with them as I sacrifice everything constantly, and most good offensive teams have explosions galore anyways. so I guess it means a little bit if you can beat the guy without sacrificing/exploding.

but no, not really, score doesn't mean anything.

edit: I love how arin is complaining about other people being arrogant pricks
 
God Eternal, give up. Faint's post explains everything.

I have beef with him, so what? As for the topic, final scores don't mean shit, that is all, case closed. The game is just team advantage and luck anyway.

Okay well, I guess your intentions are in the right place, but your past really isn't gonna help out your credibility in this thread..

^This too explains it. Attention whore written all over your face.

edit: I love how arin is complaining about other people being arrogant pricks

^Anything else people?
 
Nah, I don't think scores mean much, simply due to the probability factor in Pokemon.

That's why I have always had a problem with some tournaments using scores as tiebreakers. I've always felt that tiebreakers should result in a series of rematches, not determined by something that most of the community agrees matters very little.
 
I also think the score doesnt mean anything, because it does not tell anything about how the match really was.
Take chess, for example. When a master (GM) is facing an opponent clearly weaker than him (not a noob, obviously, just a weaker opponent), the master generally wins with a very short advantage. This may tell you that he barely managed to win, but when you actually look at the match itself you realize a significant thing.
The master held the advantage from the beginning to the end. He didnt get a great advantage simply because he didnt want to take risks. Even with that slight adavantage, he held the momentum throughout the entire match, without risking a single time to lose.
The same thing can be said about pokemon. The match may end 1-0, 2-0, but if you looked at the match you actually realize that the winner never risked the loss throughout the match. On the contrary, a 6-0 may have been realized by a very risky Belly Drum set up, which could even cost the game to the winner should it have failed. The match itself tells a lot more than the score
 
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