a large amount of data is directly from the game: OK could you please tell me which data is real and which was just copied from another (unreliable) source?
I can ask Eevee. He was just complaining to me because he hardly ever gets feedback so he can put correct move info. I tell him things that are incorrect occasionally, so he can fix them.
I don´t have a problem with you posting stuff from other sources and am thankful that you check our info, it´s just most of the time, you just leave it as it is or post questions...hey, there are research badge holders, why should I waste my time with testing? I don´t think we have an infinite amount of time and patience...
I'm not quite sure I follow you here. I leave what stuff as is? Why should who waste their time testing? I have tested some stuff on my own; I don't have many high-level pokemon, I only have one DS, and I only have some 200-something in my pokedex, so I don't have many resources for testing for one thing. I'm at this very moment testing U-Turn+revenge, by the way.
and yes, there is incorrect smogon info, just as there is incorrect info on other sites, the difference is that we are the ones that actually work on getting the correct info and others don´t give a ...
Eevee is more than willing to correct his information, I believe, if he is notified of what is incorrect. He and others may not (and may not have the time) test everything, but they at least record information. It's certainly great that smogon people are testing things, and I don't mean to knock that at all. It's great, and it's helped me in my work a ton.
if there are things that weren´t changed even after being said a few times, just PM the person that can edit the post with enough proof of what you say (you know, people can´t keep track of everything), like you asked me about the OHKO formula where I answered with a test-result post in this topic
You're right, I should probably PM one of the admins when I see things that need edited in the move/ability/item description threads. I'm sorry if I'm spammed this thread with that stuff. I'm not sure I follow you about the OHKO formula, but presumably whatever it was was settled.
I know I shouldn´t care, but I´m a bit pissed now and took "those weird percentages" as a personal attack on my test results which don´t take 3 seconds but hours to be made you know
I publically apologize; I honestly didn't mean it that way at all. I appreciate very much all the testing that you've done, as does X-Act and others. We all know how hard you work on the stuff. What I meant was, I think that if your work is right (I assume it is, and the percentages are nailed down...like I said, I didn't see that post, sorry), then GAME FREAK/POKEMON uses weird percentages. I checked the ratios yesterday, and I see you included them in your post...and 2/6/13/22/43 is a very odd series in my opinion. I just thought it was weird that the game would be programmed in that way.
Again, I do not mean to attack you or any of your work; I just felt it wasn't fair what you said about Veekun since I've used it a lot to help myself and the research here, and like I said some of it is from the game. I believe Surgo told me about it, saying it was from the game data, to start with. I'm still waiting to see if Eevee knows which of his information is from the game.
I'm sorry for any offense.