DPPt In-Game Tier List Thread v2

[CryoGyro]

From my brief research, the best strategy seems to be leveling it up to 100 Friendship, then spamming X items against passive wild Pokemon to 200, then leveling up to 220. This sounds a bit onerous and expensive, but having Umbreon online by Wake if not Fantina sounds important for information completeness. I won't know the practicality of this approach for sure until I test.

My run is still ongoing, but I've executed the strategy and want to share my results ASAP. Turns out you can only buy X items from Veilstone Dept Store, so I played Eevee as normal until that point. After training it up some while holding Soothe Bell to test against Rival 3, it entered Veilstone at 139 Friendship.

• I bought 30 each of X Special, X Sp. Def, and X Speed, the cheapest at 350 per. This is affordable with the various sell items and/or Amulet Coin use.
• I fished up a Magikarp at the pond just south of Veilstone, used six of each X item I bought on top of the six or so I incidentally picked up playing normally, then ran away once maxed out.
• In hindsight, I should have just switched to reset the boosts. That would save a lot of time from getting unlucky from failed fishing.
• In four battles, I had reached 200 Friendship, the max you can reach using X items. It's indicated by two hearts in the Friendship Checker app.
• Note that Soothe Bell increases Friendship gains by 50% rounded down. This means that +1 activities such as walking and X item use do not get any boost.
• This X item process took around 17 minutes of real time with battle animations off and touch screen navigation. With switching instead of running and better fishing luck, this could easily take 15 minutes or less.
• This gave me Umbreon at level 31, a reasonable level before even facing Maylene. My overworld navigation was accelerated in some areas and back-and-forth in others, so I think my walking Friendship gains were in the ballpark of a casual run.
• I got one massage, used two vitamins, and fainted twice for other FS modifiers.

I personally think this method, while not a game-changer that would cause tier shifts, is a worthwhile strategy for getting FS evos faster. It would be worth mentioning for certain Pokemon entries as a way for casual players to get their payoff a bit sooner, especially Espeon and Chimecho, which have an advantage over Maylene. If I didn't use this method, I think getting the evolution by even Wake under efficient play would have been an issue. 15 minutes is comparable to a brief grinding session you'd undertake if you're worried about the upcoming boss. Someone could easily do it while watching TV and have their evo much sooner, possibly saving 15 minutes of hassle in the long term.

 

[Roldski32]

Recently doing a new Platinum run, and I'm gonna attempt that Secret Key exploit on that run if possible. In the meantime, I'm still gonna dump all the Platinum logs that I've been saving, and this one consist of Geodude(No Trade), Wormadam-Trash, Gastly (No Trade), and Tangela (I forgot the "exact" Nature on them, but I know its all neutral nature)

Geodude (No Trade)

Serious
HP: Ground
“Mischievous”
HP: 0-3
Atk: 15-23
Def: 25-28
SpA: 31
SpD: 12-14
Spe: 23-26
==Roark==
Geodude L13-14
Rock Smash 3HKOs Cranidos (2HKOs if you get a Defense drop on Turn 1), and Geodude, 4HKOs Onix (3HKOs if you get a Defense drop Turn 1)
Rock Throw 3HKOs Cranidos. Cranidos 4HKOs back

Beats 1. Can sweep with Rock Smash, but you generally needed Magnitude here

==Mars 1==
Geodude L17 @ Pecha Berry
Rock Throw 1HKOs Zubat
Magnitude 7 3HKOs Purugly. Purugly 6HKOs back (5HKOs back if Zubat attacks you)

Can sweep
==Gardenia==
Geodude L20
lol
==Jupiter==
Geodude L22
Magnitude 7 3HKOs Skuntank (Magnitude 8 2HKOs). Skuntank 3HKOs back, Zubat 1HKOs back

You need to rely on very high Magnitude number to beat Skuntank.
==Fantina==
Graveler L25 @ Rawst Berry
You need 2 Rock Polish boost to outspeed Mismagius
2 Rollouts is close to KOing Duskull, the 3rd hit 1HKOs Duskull and 2HKOs Mismagius(1HKOs on the 4th hit)
If you're burned, then you have to used Defense Curl to get the same KO ranges above, though Haunter finishes you off.

Beats 2. You need Substitute to reliably sweep here
==Rival(Hearthome)==
Graveler L26
first hit of -1 Rollout alone is close to 2HKOing Staravia
the 3rd hit 1HKOs Buizel
the 4th hit puts Grotle in red

-1 HS CurlOut is close to 1HKOing Staravia
the 2nd hit 1HKOs Buizel
the 3rd hit puts Grotle in red

Avoiding Staravia...
Magnitude 7 1HKOs Ponyta and puts Buizel in red

Beats 1
==Maylene==
Graveler L33
Eq 2HKOs Machoke and 1HKOs the rest. Graveler outspeeds Meditite and Machoke.
Graveler outspeeds Lucario after a single Rock Polish boost. It also barely survived Meditite's Fake Out + Drain Punch into Machoke's Karate Chop (guaranteed survive with Sitrus Berry)

It may be speed-specific in order to sweep here
==Rival(Pastoria)==
Graveler L36 @ Hard Stone
-1 Hard Stone Curlout 1HKOs Staravia(doesn't KO without the item)
the 2nd hit 1HKOs Buizel
the 3rd hit is close to 1HKOing Grotle

Beats 3
==Wake==
Graveler L36
Eq 2HKOs Quagsire. All 1HKOs back

Bad
==Cyrus 1==
Graveler L37 @ Wide Lens
Rollout 2HKOs all with 1st and 2nd hit, and the 3rd hit 1HKOs. Sneasel 2HKOs back.

Beats 2
==Rival(Canalave)==
Graveler L38
-1 Rollout(1st hit) 4HKOs Staraptor. Staraptor may switch out for Torterra. Torterra outspeeds and 1HKOs back
Eq 1HKOs Rapidash and is close to 1HKOing Floatzel. Floatzel 2HKOs back

Beats 1 or 2
==Byron==
Graveler L39
EQ 2HKOs Steelix and is close to 1HKOing Bastiodon. All 1HKOs back(Metal Burst on Bastiodon's case),
Magneton outspeeds. Bastiodon may go for Iron Defense instead

Needs luck to beat 1
==Saturn 1==
Graveler L40 @ Pecha
Curlout 2HKOs Golbat, 3rd + 4th hit KOs Bronzor, the 5th hit 1HKOs Toxicroak
Earthquake 1HKOs Toxicroak. Toxicroak 2HKOs back

Beats 1 or 2. Needs luck to sweep
==Mars 2==
Graveler L40 @ Pecha Berry
Curlout 2HKOs Golbat, the 3rd + 4th hit KOs Bronzor. Mars may switch out Golbat for Bronzor (the 2nd + 3rd hit is super close to KOing unless u equipped Hard Stone)
Earthquake is close to 2HKOing Purugly(guaranteed with Earth Plate)
Beats 2. Needs luck to sweep
==Candice==
Graveler L43 @ Hard Stone
Defense Curl first, then Rock Polish twice (You need 2 Rock Polish boost to outspeed Froslass)
Curlout 1HKOs Sneasel, the 2nd hit 1HKOs Abomasnow, the 3rd hit 1HKOs Piloswine

Needs 1 heal and luck to sweep.
==Cyrus 2==
Graveler L44
Rock Slide 1HKOs Sneasel and 2HKOs the rest. Sneasel 2HKOs back, Honchkrow 3HKOs back
Curlout 2HKO Crobat, the 3rd hit 1HKOs Honchkrow

Beats 1. Could beat 2 if you set-up on Crobat.
==Saturn 2==
Graveler L44
Rock Slide puts Golbat in red. Saturn may switch out Golbat for Toxicroak
Earthquake 1HKOs Toxicroak. Graveler barely lives a Brick Break after a Golbat Air Cutter, though it will finished you off if you take another damage from Golbat.

Beats 1
==Cyrus 3==
Graveler L46 @ Rawst Berry / Hard Stone
Eq 1HKOs Houndoom. Houndoom almost 1HKOs back
HS Rock Slide 1HKOs Weavile, puts Crobat in red, and is close to 1HKOing Honchkrow. Crobat almost 3HKOs back, Honchkrow 2HKOs back

Beats 1 or 2. Needs healing and luck to beat 2 or 3.
==Volkner==
Graveler L48 @ Earth Plate
Outspeeds everyone at +2
EP Eq 1HKOs all bar Luxray, who has a low roll of 1HKOing. Jolteon almost 2HKOs back, Luxray finishes you off if Jolteon landed an Iron Tail

Needs luck to sweep, unless you reliable 1HKO Luxray
==Rival(League)==
Graveler L51
-1 Stone Edge 1HKOs Staraptor after a CC Def drop(-1 Rock Slide doesn't 1HKO). Staraptor might use U-turn instead of CC
Eq 1HKOs Rapidash, 2HKOs Floatzel, 3HKOs Snorlax. Torterra and Hera 1HKOs back, Rapidash almost 2HKOs back, the rest 2HKOs back

Beats 1
==Aaron==
Graveler L51
Rock Slide 1HKOs Vespiquen.
Eq 2HKOs Scizor and Drapion. Yanmega and Hera 1HKOs back, Scizor 2HKOs back Drapion almost 2HKOs back

Beats 2 (Could beat 4 if you set-up CurlOut on Vespiquen?didn't try it)
==Bertha==
Graveler L52
Earthquake 2HKOs Golem. All 1HKOs back

Bad
==Flint==
Graveler L52
Set-up 2 Rock Polish(Infernape still outspeeds you at +2)
Ep Eq 1HKOs all bar Infernape, who is super close to 1HKOing(Can 1HKO at L53). Houndoom almost 1HKOs back

Needs 1 heal to sweep if you can 1HKO Infernape
==Lucian==
Graveler L53
Ep Eq has a roll to 1HKO Mime. Mime almost 1HKOs back, the rest 1HKOs back bar Bronzong.

Bad unless you can 1HKO Mime
==Cynthia==
Graveler L53
Earth Plate Earthquake is close to 2HKOing Spiritomb. Tomb almost 1HKOs back

Bad unless you 2HKO Tomb

E Tier. Graveler disappointed me on some fights where I thought its gonna do well such as Jupiter's Skuntank, Byron, and Aaron(if you don't used CurlOut). Its also very slow to the point of needing 2 Rock Polish boost to outspeed stuff.

Burmy (Wormadam-Trash)

Docile
HP: Steel
“Highly curious”
HP: 14-19
Atk: 9-10
Def: 0-2
SpA: 25
SpD: 4-9
Spe: 0-1
==Mars 1==
Burmy L15
Does nothing to Purugly as it 3HKOs you.

==Gardenia==
Wormadam-Trash L20
Bug Bite 3HKOs Roserade (5HKOs if Cherrim uses Leech Seed), 2HKOs Cherrim and puts Turtwig in red (it heals on the next turn and you 3HKO it due to Reflect). Roserade may beat you if Cherrim uses Leech Seed

Can sweep

==Jupiter==
Wormadam-Trash L22 @ Silverpowder
Silverpowder Bug Bite has a roll to 4HKO Skuntank. Skuntank 6HKOs back (3HKOs after a Screech), Smokescreen can annoy you

Can beat Skuntank

==Fantina==
Wormadam-Trash L26 @ Silverpowder
Mirror Shot 2HKOs Haunter and is close to 2HKOing Duskull
Mismagius is super close to be 4HKOed by Silverpowder Bug Bite into 3 Mirror Shots. Mismagius almost 5HKOs back without factoring Bug Bite heal. Confuse Ray can annoy you

Can beat Mismagius

==Rival(Hearthome)==
Wormadam-Trash L26
Mirror Shot 2HKOs Staravia. Staravia 4HKOs back
SP Bug Bite 2HKOs Grotle and puts Buizel in red

Beats 3
==Maylene==
Wormadam-Trash L33 @ Silverpowder / Sitrus Berry
SP Bug Bite/Mirror Shot 2HKOs Meditite
Psybeam 2HKOs Machoke. Both outspeeds, Machoke finishes you off unless it went for Focus Energy(you can avoid this with Sitrus, but it makes Bug Bite unable to 2HKO Meditite)

Can beat 2
==Rival(Pastoria)==
Wormadam-Trash L34
Staravia is 2HKOed by Psybeam into Mirror Shot. Using Mirror Shot T1 causes it to used Endeavor on next turn
SP Bug Bite 2HKOs Buizel and Grotle(super close to 3HKOing after a Withdraw T1)

Beats 2 or 3
==Wake==
Wormadam-Trash L36 @ Mind Plate / Silverpowder
MP Psybeam 4HKOs Quagsire. Quag outspeeds and 5HKOs back
SP Bug Bite is close to 4HKOing Quag and 3HKOing Floatzel. Floatzel 4HKOs back after a BB heal.

Needs luck to beats 1(Could beat Floatzel with MP Psychic? didn't test that)
==Cyrus 1==
Wormadam-Trash L37 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Mirror Shot 1HKOs Sneasel, 2HKOs Murkrow, and is close to 2HKOing Golbat. Murkrow 3HKOs back(2HKOs if Sneasel went for Screech)

Beats 2
==Rival(Canalave)==
Wormadam-Trash L38 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Mirror Shot 2HKOs Staraptor and 3HKOs Torterra(4HKOs after a Leech Seed). Raptor and Torterra may switch out for Rapidash
Choice Specs Psychic 2HKOs Floatzel and Heracross. Heracross almost 2HKOs back

Beats 1 or 2
==Byron==
Wormadam-Trash L39 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Mirror Shot 5HKOs Bastiodon. Bastiodon outspeeds and 3HKOs back

Bad, unless you somehow dodged those Stone Edges
==Saturn 1==
Wormadam-Trash L40 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Psybeam 2HKOs Golbat and 1HKOs Toxicroak

Beats 2
==Mars 2==
Wormadam-Trash L40 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Flash Cannon 2HKOs Golbat and Purugly

Beats 2
==Candice==
Wormadam-Trash L43-44 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Flash Cannon 1HKOs Piloswine and is close to 1HKOing Abomasnow and Froslass. All outspeeds, Abomasnow 3HKOs back, Piloswine almost 2HKOs back

Beats 2
==Cyrus 2==
Wormadam-Trash L44 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Flash Cannon 3HKOs Honchrow, has a roll to 1HKO Sneasel and is close to 2HKOing Crobat. Honchkrow 2HKOs back if you take on Sneasel

Beats 2
==Saturn 2==
Wormadam L44-45 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Psychic 1HKOs Toxicroak and puts Golbat in red. Toxicroak almost 2HKOs back

Can beat 2
==Cyrus 3==
Wormadam-Trash L45 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Psychic 2HKOs Crobat. Crobat almost 3HKOs back
Choice Specs Flash Cannon is close to 1HKOing Weavile.

Beats 1
==Volkner==
Wormadam-Trash L48 @ Silverpowder / Choice Specs
SP Bug Bite 3HKOs Jolteon and is close to 2HKOing Raichu. Raichu 3HKOs back with Focus Miss, and it seems to click it more than Charge Beam
Choice Specs Psychic 3HKOs Jolteon and Raichu. Jolteon 3HKOs back if it got consecutive boost

Needs luck to beat 1
==Rival(League)==
Wormadam-Trash L51 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Flash Cannon 1HKOs Staraptor after a CC Def drop, and is close to 2HKOing Torterra and 3HKOing Snorlax. Snorlax 3HKOs back, Staraptor almost 2HKOs back, Torterra outspeeds and 2HKOs back
Choice Specs Psychic 2HKOs Floatzel and is super close to 1HKOing Heracross after a CC Def drop. Hera 2HKOs back, Floatzel almost 4HKOs back

Can beat 2
==Aaron==
Wormadam-Trash L51 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Flash Cannon 2HKOs Yanmega, 3HKOs Drapion. Yanmega almost 2HKOs back, Drapion 5HKOs back, and Vespiquen outspeeds
Choice Specs Psychic 1HKOs Heracross after a CC Def drop. Hera almost 1HKOs back

Beats 1
==Bertha==
Wormadam-Trash L52 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Flash Cannon 3HKOs Hippowdon and puts Rhyperior in red. All outspeeds, Golem 1HKOs back, Hippowdon 2HKOs, Rhyperior almost 1HKOs back.

Bad
==Flint==
Wormadam-Trash L52
lol
==Lucian==
Wormadam-Trash L52 @ Silverpowder
SP Bug Bite 2HKOs Mime(3HKOs under Reflect), Espeon(4HKOs under Reflect) and Zam. Zam 2HKOs back, Mime and Espeon almost 3HKOs back

Beats 1
==Cynthia==
Wormadam-Trash L52 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Flash Cannon 3HKOs Tomb. Tomb outspeeds and 4HKOs back
Choice Specs Psychic has a roll to 2HKO Rade. Rade almost 4HKOs back

Needs 1 heal to beat 2

D Tier. On this run, I was struggling to pick which mon should I run next, as I've already done the majority of current As, Bs, and Cs. Then, Volt suggested me to used WormaTrash, thus I decided to used it. It is great in the early-game, then its irrelevant past that. Its defensive-typing felt honestly overrated. Sure, it technically has no weaknesses because Sinnoh has almost no Fire-type, but it doesn't make WormaTrash invincible or anything. When I read "Bug/Steel is the best defensive type", I interpreted it as it resisted a lot of stuff, which only happened in the early-game. Past Fantina, it doesn't really resist enough, it felted kinda little. You could argue E Tier because honey trees really sucks, but its early-game performance is enough to ranked it as D Tier personally.

Gastly (No Trade)

Quirky
HP: Ground
“Sturdy body”
HP: 2-9
Atk: 7-14
Def: 25 / 30
SpA: 16-23
SpD: 7-14
Spe: 10-16
==Gardenia==
Gastly L20
Night Shade 4HKOs Roserade and 3HKOs the rest. Cherrim 3HKOs back, Roserade 2HKOs back, both also outspeeds, Turtwig almost 2HKOs back with Overgrow Razor Leaf

Beats 1

==Jupiter==
Gastly L21
Night Shade 3HKOs Zubat. Zubat 2HKOs back
Skuntank is faster, so you can't do Hypnosis + Curse strat here.

bad
==Fantina==
Haunter L25
Shadow Punch 2HKOs Duskull and Haunter

Beats 1 or 2
==Rival(Hearthome)==
Haunter L27
Night Shade 3HKOs all bar Staravia
Shadow Punch 2HKOs Buizel(close to 2HKOing if it went for Growl T1) and is close to 2HKOing Ponyta

Beats 3
==Maylene==
Haunter L33 @ Spell Tag
Spell Tag Shadow Ball 1HKOs Meditite and is close to 1HKOing Machoke. Lucario outspeeds and 2HKOs back

Beats 2
==Rival(Pastoria)==
Haunter L35 @ Spell Tag
Thunderbolt 1HKOs Staravia
Spell Tag Shadow Ball 2HKOs Grotle and 1HKOs the rest

Clean sweep
==Wake==
Haunter L36 @ Spell Tag
Thunderbolt 1HKOs Gyarados. Floatzel outspeeds and 1HKOs back
Spell Tag Shadow Ball 2HKOs Quagsire

Beats 2
==Cyrus 1==
Haunter L37 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Tbolt 2HKOs Sneasel and 1HKOs the rest. Sneasel outspeeds and 2HKOs back

Beats 2
==Rival(Canalave)==
Haunter L38 @ Spell Tag / Choice Specs
Tbolt 1HKOs Staraptor
Spell Tag Shadow Ball has a roll to 2HKO Torterra(doesn't 2HKO if it went for Leech Seed T1). Torterra almost 1HKOs back, and it comes in next after Staraptor.
Choice Specs Shadow Ball 1HKOs Floatzel, 2HKOs Heracross, and is close to 1HKOing Rapidash. Hera 1HKOs back

Beats 3
==Byron==
Haunter L39 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Shadow Ball 3HKOs Steelix and has a roll to 2HKO Magneton. Mag 1HKOs back, Steelix almost 2HKOs back
Choice Specs Tbolt 4HKOs Bastiodon. Bastiodon 2HKOs back

Beats 1
==Saturn 1==
Haunter L40 @ Choice Specs
Thunderbolt puts Golbat in red
Choice Specs Tbolt 1HKOs Golbat, 2HKOs Bronzor, and is close to 2HKOing Toxicroak
Choice Specs Shadow Ball 2HKOs Toxicroak and is close to 1HKOing the rest. Toxicroak almost 1HKOs back, Bronzor finishes you off if you attack Golbat or Croak

Beats 1 or 2
==Mars 2==
Haunter L41 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Tbolt 1HKOs Golbat and 2HKOs the rest. Bronzor and Purugly 2HKOs back, the latter outspeeds

Beats 2
==Candice==
Haunter L43 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Shadow Ball 2HKOs Piloswine and Abomasnow. All 1HKOs back (Abomasnow 2HKOs back with Wood Hammer and doesn't seem to go for Avalanche a lot fsr)

Needs luck to beat 1
==Cyrus 2==
Haunter L44 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Tbolt 1HKOs Honchkrow and is close to 1HKOing Crobat. Crobat outspeeds and 2HKOs back

Beats 1
==Saturn 2==
Haunter L44 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Shadow Ball 2HKOs Golbat and puts the rest in red. All 2HKO back (Toxicroak almost 1HKOs back)

Beats 2
==Cyrus 3==
Haunter L46 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Sludge Bomb 2HKOs Houndoom. Houndoom 1HKOs back with Flamethrower.
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 1HKOs Gyarados, Crobat, abd Honchkrow. Crobat outspeeds and 2HKOs back

Beats 2 or 3
==Volkner==
Haunter L48 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Sludge Bomb 2HKOs all. Jolteon outspeeds and 2HKOs back with unboosted Charge Beam. Raichu speedties and almost 2HKOs back, Luxray and Electivire almost 1HKOs back

Beats 1
==Rival(League)==
Haunter L51 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Sludge Bomb 1HKOs Staraptor, Floatzel and Rapidash, 2HKOs Snorlax, Heracross and Torterra. Snorlax and Torterra 1HKOs back, Heracross almost 1HKOs back, Floatzel outspeeds and almost 1HKOs back

Beats 3
==Aaron==
Haunter L51-52 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Sbomb 1HKOs Yanmega, 2HKOs Heracross. Hera 1HKOs back
Choice Specs Tbolt 2HKOs Scizor and Vespiquen, 3HKOs Drapion. Scizor 1HKOs back, Drapion outspeeds and almost 2HKOs back.

Beats 2
==Bertha==
Haunter L52 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Shadow Ball 2HKOs all(Rhyperior is 3HKOed if Sandstorm is up). Golem and Gliscor 2HKOs back, the latter outspeeds, Hippowdon 1HKOs back, Rhyperior 3HKOs back with Megahorn
Choice Specs Giga Drain 1HKOs Rhyperior(doesn't 1HKO if Sandstorm ks up), Whiscash and Golem, 2HKOs Hippowdon

Beats 1 or 2. Could beat 3 with Giga Drain
==Flint==
Haunter L52 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Sbomb 2HKOs Houndoom and Flareon, 3HKOs Magmortar. All 1HKOs back, Rapidash and Infernape outspeeds.

Can take out Houndoom/Flareon/Magmortar with Destiny Bond, otherwise its bad
==Lucian==
Haunter L52 @ Choice Specs
Specs Shadow Ball 2HKOs Bronzong and Gallade. All 1HKOs back, Mr. Mime, Espeon and Zam outspeeds

Can take out Zong/Gallade with Destiny Bond, otherwise its bad
==Cynthia==
Haunter L52 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Tbolt 2HKOs Togekiss and Milotic. All 1HKOs back, Rade, Chomp and Lucario outspeeds

Bad unless you Dbond on Milotic(unreliable due to Mirror Coat)/Tomb/Toge

D Tier, with a chance of C Tier. Pre-Shadow Ball phase is... not great. There were cases where Night Shade doesn't even 2HKO stuff on route, which is pretty bad given how frail this mon is and Ghost/Poison typing doesn't give you enough resistances. It was pretty bad into Jupiter section, bc every Grunt just beats Gastly besides Stunky. It does get a huge powerspike when it reaches Level 33, but it flops in the late-game to the point it resorts to just using Destiny Bond into something there, especially in the last three fights.

Tangela

Bashful
HP: Ground
“Somewhat vain”
HP: 24-26
Atk: 23-25
Def: 24-26
SpA: 22-24
SpD: 26
Spe: 20-22

==Maylene==
Tangrowth L33
Earthquake is close to 1HKOing Lucario. The rest are 1HKOed by SunnyBeam

You need Earthquake to sweep here.
==Rival(Pastoria)==
Tangrowth L34
Ancientpower 1HKOs Staravia and 2HKOs Ponyta. Ponyta 4HKOs back
Solarbeam 1HKOs Buizel and 3HKOs Grotle

Can sweep
==Wake==
Tangrowth L36
SunnyBeam 2HKOs Gyarados and 1HKOs the rest

Clean sweep
==Cyrus 1==
Tangrowth L37
Solarbeam puts Sneasel in red.
Choice Specs Specs Ancientpower 1HKOs Murkrow, 2HKOs Golbat, and puts Sneasel in red. Sneasel 3HKOs back, the rest almost 2HKOs back

Beats 1
==Rival(Canalave)==
Tangrowth L37-38
Ancientpower 2HKOs Staraptor and Rapidash
Rose Incense Solarbeam 1HKOs Floatzel and 2HKOs Torterra

Beats 3 or 4
==Byron==
Tangrowth L39
Earthquake 1HKOs Magneton and 2HKOs Bastiodon.
Rose Incense Solarbeam 2HKOs Magneton and is close to 2HKOing Bastiodon, super close to 1HKOing Steelix. Mag outspeeds and 2HKOs back(1HKOs after a Metal Sound)

Beats 2. Needs EQ to sweep
==Saturn 1==
Tangrowth L40 @ Rose Incense
Ancientpower 2HKOs Golbat. Golbat almost 2HKOs back
Rose Incense Solarbeam is close to 2HKOing Bronzor
Earthquake 2HKOs Toxicroak. Toxicroak outspeeds and 2HKOs back

Beats 1
==Mars 2==
Tangrowth L40 @ Rose Incense
Ancientpower 2HKOs Golbat. Golbat outspeeds and almost 2HKOs back
Rose Incense Solarbeam 1HKOs Purugly and is close to 2HKOing Bronzor

Beats 1
==Candice==
Tangrowth L43 @ Rose Incense
Rose Incense Solarbeam 1HKOs Sneasel and Piloswine, and puts Froslass in red.
Ancientpower 3HKOs Abomasnow. Abomasnow almost 2HKOs back with Focus Miss

Beats 2 or 3. A sweep seems possible with 1 healing, but you need luck
==Cyrus 2==
Tangrowth L44 @ Rose Incense
Rose Incense Solarbeam is close to 1HKOing Sneasel.
Ancientpower 2HKO Sneasel and 3HKOs the rest. Sneasel almost 2HKO back, the rest 2HKOs back

Beats 1
==Saturn 2==
Tangrowth L44 @ Rose Incense
Ancientpower 2HKOs Golbat. Golbat almost 2HKOs back
Rose Incense Solarbeam is close to 2HKOing Bronzor
Earthquake 2HKOs Toxicroak. Toxicroak 2HKOs back

Beats 1
==Cyrus 3==
Tangrowth L46 @ Rose Incense
Rose Incense Solarbeam 2HKOs Gyarados and Weavile. Gyarados almost 3HKOs back, Crobat comes in next and finishes you off, it also outspeeds you even with sun. Weavile outspeeds even with sun up, and 2HKOs back after a Fake Out
Ancientpower 2HKOs Honchkrow, 3HKOs Crobat. Both 2HKOs back

Beats 1
==Volkner==
Tangrowth L48 @ Rose Incense / Earthquake
Rose Incense Solarbeam 2HKOs all. Jolteon cripples you with Twave.
Earth Plate Earthquake 1HKOs Jolteon(doesn't KO w/o EP) and Raichu, 2HKOs Luxray and puts Electivire in red. Raichu 2HKOs back

Beats 2
==Rival(League)==
Tangrowth L51
Ancientpower 2HKOs Staraptor. Staraptor 3HKOs back
Solarbeam 1HKOs Floatzel, 2HKOs Torterra and Snorlax. Snorlax outspeeds after a para(even with sun) and almost 4HKOs back
Ep Eq 1HKOs Rapidash(doesn't 1HKO w/o Ep)

Beats 3 or 4
==Aaron==
Tangrowth L51
Earthquake 3HKOs Drapion
Ancientpower 2HKOs Vespiquen. Yanmega 1HKOs back, Vespiquen and Drapion almost 2HKOs back

Beats 1
==Bertha==
Tangrowth L52 @ Rose Incense / Choice Specs
Solarbeam 2HKOs Gliscor and 1HKOs the rest. Sun ends by the time Rhyperior comes in. Hippowdon comes in last, which you have to set sun again.
Choice Specs Giga Drain puts Hippowdon in red and is super close to 2HKOing Gliscor, the rest are 1HKOed. You're likely ran out of Giga Drain PP unless you reliably 2HKO Gliscor

At Level 54
Rose Incense Power Whip 2HKOs Gliscor(doesn't w/o RI), and 1HKOs the rest bar Hippowdon, who is close to 1HKOing

Beats 4. You need to dodge a Megahorn from Rhyperior to sweep with SunnyBeam. . Can sweep with Power Whip
==Flint==
Tangrowth L52 @ Earth Plate
After a Flare Blitz recoil, Earth Plate Earthquake KOs Rapidash and is close to KOing Infernape. They both 2HKO back(1HKO if sun is up), the rest outspeeds and 1HKOs back. Rapidash may go for Sunny Day T1, in which Earth Plate Earthquake alone only puts in in red. Houndoom doesn't go for Sunny Day.

Beats 1. Could beat more if you set-up SD on Rapidash as it went for Sunny Day, but that requires luck and it being faster during sun than Infernape.
==Lucian==
Tangrowth L52 @ Rose Incense
Rose Incense Solar Beam 3HKOs Gallade, has a roll to 2HKO Mime(it 3HKOs if its went for LS T1) and it is close to 3HKOing Espeon under LS. Espeon almost 1HKOs back, Gallade almost 3HKOs back, Zam still outspeeds in sun and 2HKOs back

At Level 54
Rose Insence Power Whip 2HKOs Mime and is close to 2HKOing Espeo under Reflect, and it 1HKOs Zam, 2HKOs Gallade

Beats 1. Needs 1 heal to beat 2 with Power Whip
==Cynthia==
Tangrowth L53 @ Rose Incense
Rose Incense Solarbeam 2HKOs Tomb, 3HKOs Garchomp. Tomb 2HKOs back, Chomp almost 1HKOs back, Milotic outspeeds and 1HKOs back

At Level 54
Rose Incense Power Whip 2HKOs Tomb

Beats 1 with Power Whip

D Tier, with a strong chance of C Tier. The D Tier nomination is for how annoying it is to catch Tangela. Sure its a 25% encounter, but its a Safari Zone mon, which it can flee, and has the lowest catch rate of 45. Just for comparison, Quagsire and Noctowl had 90, Bibarel had 127, then the rest (including Carnivine and Tropius) had around 200. Not to mention, it needs Chlorophyll, which only 50% of the Tangelas had. If you focus more onto how it fared into battle, then yes, its a C Tier mon.

 

[Wukong]

Gligar

Bashful
HP: Flying
“Scatters things often”
HP: 28
Atk: 11
Def: 19
SpA: 26/28
SpD: 26
Spe: 4
==Fantina==
Gligar L26
Faint Attack 3HKOs Mismagius and 2HKOs the rest. Mismaguis outspeeds and almost 2HKOs back

Beats 2
==Rival(Hearthome)==
Gligar L26
Faint Attack has a roll to 3HKO Staravia.
Earthquake 1HKOs Ponyta and Buizel

Beats 2
==Maylene==
Gliscor L31
Earthquake 2HKOs Machoke and 1HKOs the rest

Clean sweep
==Rival(Pastoria)==
Gliscor L34 @ Dread Plate
+2 Dread Plate Night Slash 1HKOs Staravia and has a roll to 2HKO Grotle, the rest are 1HKOed by +2 Earthquake

Can sweep
==Wake==
Gliscor L35
Thunder Fang 2HKOs Gyarados. Gyarados 2HKOs back
Earthquake 3HKOs Floatzel and is close to 2HKOing Quagsire. Floatzel 2HKOs back

Beats 1 at best (usually Quagsire)
==Cyrus 1==
Gliscor L37
+2 Aerial Ace 2HKOs Golbat and Murkrow.

Can beat 2
==Rival(Canalave)==
Gliscor L37
+2 Aerial Ace 2HKOs Staraptor and is close to 1HKOing Torterra, the rest are 1HKOed by +2 Earthquake

Can sweep
==Byron==
Gliscor L39
+2 Earthquake 1HKOs Magneton and Bastiodon, and is close to 1HKOing Steelix. Gliscor survives a Magneton Flash Cannon into Steelix Ice Fang with 9 hp left

Can sweep
==Saturn 1==
Gliscor L40
Golbat and Bronzor are 2HKOed by +2 Aerial Ace and +2 Night Slash respectively. Toxicroak gets 1HKOed by +2 Earthquake.

Can sweep
==Mars 2==
Gliscor L41
Golbat and Bronzor are 2HKOed by +2 Aerial Ace and +2 Night Slash respectively. Purugly gets 1HKOed by +2 Earthquake.

Can sweep
==Candice==
Gliscor L42
Fire Fang only puts Abomasnow in yellow.

Bad
==Cyrus 2==
Gliscor L43-44
+2 Rock Slide is close to 1HKOing Crobat and Honchkrow

Beats 1 or 2
==Saturn 2==
Gliscor L43-44
Rock Slide 2HKOs Golbat
Earthquake 1HKOs Toxicroak

Beats 2
==Cyrus 3==
Gliscor L45
Earthquake 1HKOs Houndoom. Houndoom outspeeds and 2HKOs back
Rock Slide 2HKOs Honchkrow and fails to 2HKO Crobat and Gyarados. Honchkrow 3HKOs back, Crobat almost 3HKOs back, Gyarados 2HKOs back, Weavile 1HKOs back

Beats 1 or 2
==Volkner==
Gliscor L47 @ Soft Sand
Soft Sand Earthquake 1HKOs all but Luxray, which is super close to 1HKOing

Can sweep
==Rival(League)==
Gliscor L50 @ Sky Plate
+2 Rock Slide has a roll to 1HKO Staraptor
+2 Sky Plate Aerial Ace 1HKOs Heracross and is close to 1HKOing Torterra
+2 Earthquake 1HKOs Floatzel and Rapidash, 2HKOs Snorlax

Not a sweep
==Aaron==
Gliscor L50-51 @ Soft Sand
+2 Aerial Ace 1HKOs Yanmega(while bypassing evasion) and Heracross
+2 Soft Sand Earthquake is close to 1HKOing Drapion

Beats 2 or 3
==Bertha==
Gliscor L51
+2 Soft Sand Earthquake 2HKOs Hippowdon and 1HKOs Whiscash, Golem and Rhyperior. Whiscash and her own Gliscor 2HKOs back, the latter outspeeds

Beats 4 at best if you set-up again on Golem, you might need 1 heal
==Flint==
Gliscor L51 @ Soft Sand
Soft Sand Earthquake 1HKOs all. Infernape, Magmortar and Rapidash outspeeds and can 2HKO back.

Beats 3. Not a sweep unless the latter two randomly goes for Solarbeam
==Lucian==
Earthquake 2HKOs Mr. Mime (3HKOs after a Reflect), Espeon and Alakazam. Mr. Mime outspeeds and almost 2HKOs back, the latter two 2HKOs back
+2 Sky Plate Aerial Ace 1HKOs Gallade. Gallade 3HKOs back

Beats 1 at best
==Cynthia==
Gliscor L52 @ Soft Sand
Soft Sand Earthquake is close to 1HKOing Lucario
+2 Soft Sand Earthquake puts Spiritomb in red. Spiritomb almost 2HKOs back

C Tier. Couldn't say much here. Gliscor is mostly okay, but i wished it could have done better in the late-game, 95 Attack can be little lacking sometimes.

This is the only one that's a little surprising from your post. I would've thought B tier. By running Gliscor you're already planning to invest the Earthquake TM, and it might be the best candidate for it in the game aside from Garchomp. Plus Faint Attack right before Fantina, Razor Fang & Aerial Ace TM at very reasonable points of the game. Level up Swords Dance, re-learnable elemental fangs, along with plenty of other viable coverage moves. And solid matchups overall on paper on account of its great defensive typing & stats to open up SD opportunities. I don't have formal logs sorry, but just thought I'd chime in on this one.

Tangela

Bashful
HP: Ground
“Somewhat vain”
HP: 24-26
Atk: 23-25
Def: 24-26
SpA: 22-24
SpD: 26
Spe: 20-22

==Maylene==
Tangrowth L33
Earthquake is close to 1HKOing Lucario. The rest are 1HKOed by SunnyBeam

You need Earthquake to sweep here.
==Rival(Pastoria)==
Tangrowth L34
Ancientpower 1HKOs Staravia and 2HKOs Ponyta. Ponyta 4HKOs back
Solarbeam 1HKOs Buizel and 3HKOs Grotle

Can sweep
==Wake==
Tangrowth L36
SunnyBeam 2HKOs Gyarados and 1HKOs the rest

Clean sweep
==Cyrus 1==
Tangrowth L37
Solarbeam puts Sneasel in red.
Choice Specs Specs Ancientpower 1HKOs Murkrow, 2HKOs Golbat, and puts Sneasel in red. Sneasel 3HKOs back, the rest almost 2HKOs back

Beats 1
==Rival(Canalave)==
Tangrowth L37-38
Ancientpower 2HKOs Staraptor and Rapidash
Rose Incense Solarbeam 1HKOs Floatzel and 2HKOs Torterra

Beats 3 or 4
==Byron==
Tangrowth L39
Earthquake 1HKOs Magneton and 2HKOs Bastiodon.
Rose Incense Solarbeam 2HKOs Magneton and is close to 2HKOing Bastiodon, super close to 1HKOing Steelix. Mag outspeeds and 2HKOs back(1HKOs after a Metal Sound)

Beats 2. Needs EQ to sweep
==Saturn 1==
Tangrowth L40 @ Rose Incense
Ancientpower 2HKOs Golbat. Golbat almost 2HKOs back
Rose Incense Solarbeam is close to 2HKOing Bronzor
Earthquake 2HKOs Toxicroak. Toxicroak outspeeds and 2HKOs back

Beats 1
==Mars 2==
Tangrowth L40 @ Rose Incense
Ancientpower 2HKOs Golbat. Golbat outspeeds and almost 2HKOs back
Rose Incense Solarbeam 1HKOs Purugly and is close to 2HKOing Bronzor

Beats 1
==Candice==
Tangrowth L43 @ Rose Incense
Rose Incense Solarbeam 1HKOs Sneasel and Piloswine, and puts Froslass in red.
Ancientpower 3HKOs Abomasnow. Abomasnow almost 2HKOs back with Focus Miss

Beats 2 or 3. A sweep seems possible with 1 healing, but you need luck
==Cyrus 2==
Tangrowth L44 @ Rose Incense
Rose Incense Solarbeam is close to 1HKOing Sneasel.
Ancientpower 2HKO Sneasel and 3HKOs the rest. Sneasel almost 2HKO back, the rest 2HKOs back

Beats 1
==Saturn 2==
Tangrowth L44 @ Rose Incense
Ancientpower 2HKOs Golbat. Golbat almost 2HKOs back
Rose Incense Solarbeam is close to 2HKOing Bronzor
Earthquake 2HKOs Toxicroak. Toxicroak 2HKOs back

Beats 1
==Cyrus 3==
Tangrowth L46 @ Rose Incense
Rose Incense Solarbeam 2HKOs Gyarados and Weavile. Gyarados almost 3HKOs back, Crobat comes in next and finishes you off, it also outspeeds you even with sun. Weavile outspeeds even with sun up, and 2HKOs back after a Fake Out
Ancientpower 2HKOs Honchkrow, 3HKOs Crobat. Both 2HKOs back

Beats 1
==Volkner==
Tangrowth L48 @ Rose Incense / Earthquake
Rose Incense Solarbeam 2HKOs all. Jolteon cripples you with Twave.
Earth Plate Earthquake 1HKOs Jolteon(doesn't KO w/o EP) and Raichu, 2HKOs Luxray and puts Electivire in red. Raichu 2HKOs back

Beats 2
==Rival(League)==
Tangrowth L51
Ancientpower 2HKOs Staraptor. Staraptor 3HKOs back
Solarbeam 1HKOs Floatzel, 2HKOs Torterra and Snorlax. Snorlax outspeeds after a para(even with sun) and almost 4HKOs back
Ep Eq 1HKOs Rapidash(doesn't 1HKO w/o Ep)

Beats 3 or 4
==Aaron==
Tangrowth L51
Earthquake 3HKOs Drapion
Ancientpower 2HKOs Vespiquen. Yanmega 1HKOs back, Vespiquen and Drapion almost 2HKOs back

Beats 1
==Bertha==
Tangrowth L52 @ Rose Incense / Choice Specs
Solarbeam 2HKOs Gliscor and 1HKOs the rest. Sun ends by the time Rhyperior comes in. Hippowdon comes in last, which you have to set sun again.
Choice Specs Giga Drain puts Hippowdon in red and is super close to 2HKOing Gliscor, the rest are 1HKOed. You're likely ran out of Giga Drain PP unless you reliably 2HKO Gliscor

At Level 54
Rose Incense Power Whip 2HKOs Gliscor(doesn't w/o RI), and 1HKOs the rest bar Hippowdon, who is close to 1HKOing

Beats 4. You need to dodge a Megahorn from Rhyperior to sweep with SunnyBeam. . Can sweep with Power Whip
==Flint==
Tangrowth L52 @ Earth Plate
After a Flare Blitz recoil, Earth Plate Earthquake KOs Rapidash and is close to KOing Infernape. They both 2HKO back(1HKO if sun is up), the rest outspeeds and 1HKOs back. Rapidash may go for Sunny Day T1, in which Earth Plate Earthquake alone only puts in in red. Houndoom doesn't go for Sunny Day.

Beats 1. Could beat more if you set-up SD on Rapidash as it went for Sunny Day, but that requires luck and it being faster during sun than Infernape.
==Lucian==
Tangrowth L52 @ Rose Incense
Rose Incense Solar Beam 3HKOs Gallade, has a roll to 2HKO Mime(it 3HKOs if its went for LS T1) and it is close to 3HKOing Espeon under LS. Espeon almost 1HKOs back, Gallade almost 3HKOs back, Zam still outspeeds in sun and 2HKOs back

At Level 54
Rose Insence Power Whip 2HKOs Mime and is close to 2HKOing Espeo under Reflect, and it 1HKOs Zam, 2HKOs Gallade

Beats 1. Needs 1 heal to beat 2 with Power Whip
==Cynthia==
Tangrowth L53 @ Rose Incense
Rose Incense Solarbeam 2HKOs Tomb, 3HKOs Garchomp. Tomb 2HKOs back, Chomp almost 1HKOs back, Milotic outspeeds and 1HKOs back

At Level 54
Rose Incense Power Whip 2HKOs Tomb

Beats 1 with Power Whip

D Tier, with a strong chance of C Tier. The D Tier nomination is for how annoying it is to catch Tangela. Sure its a 25% encounter, but its a Safari Zone mon, which it can flee, and has the lowest catch rate of 45. Just for comparison, Quagsire and Noctowl had 90, Bibarel had 127, then the rest (including Carnivine and Tropius) had around 200. Not to mention, it needs Chlorophyll, which only 50% of the Tangelas had. If you focus more onto how it fared into battle, then yes, its a C Tier mon.

I could definitely see D tier. Just want to say Repelling Marsh area 1 or 2 with a level 31 mon in front might be a better approach to improve the encounter experience. I've run this mon multiple times and that part really isn't that bad. It's more so the horrible late game matchups.

You do get Tangrowth pretty soon after catching Tangela and it has fantastic base stats for that point of the game, along with fairly immediate access to a solid move set. Plus a great Wake matchup, who's a moderately difficult boss. I'd personally nominate C tier but could see D.

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

As a recent Gliscor user I agree with C tier, it's better in paper than it turns out in practice, the speed and attack and bulk bench marks just don't hit the way you want and the matchups late game when it comes online are largely hostile

 

[Roldski32]

This Platinum run consist of Shinx, Psyduck, Cranidos, Croagunk, Uxie, and Mesprit

Shinx

Bashful
HP: Water
“Good perseverance”
HP: 3-9
Atk: 24
Def: 29
SpA: 6-7
SpD: 5-6
Spe: 20-21
==Roark==
Shinx L13
Can't touch Geodude and Onix
Spark is a total of 4HKO on Cranidos due to Potion. Cranidos outspeeds and almost 2HKOs back with -1 Headbutt after a Stealth Rock chip.

Bad, unless you get a Spark para and possibly beat Cranidos
==Mars 1==
Luxio L16 @ Oran Berry
Spark 1HKOs Zubat and is close to 3HKOing Purugly. Purugly 5HKOs back without an intimidate drop. With Intimidate drop, Purugly deals 9/46 back.

You might outright sweep here if you get a Spark para on Purugly. Though, its best to avoid Zubat, so it could Intim and reliably beat Purugly
==Gardenia==
Luxio L21
In case you get consecutive flinches, Bite is close to 3HKOing Turtwig. Turtwig almost 3HKOs back
Without Reflect, Bite is close to 4HKOing Cherrim. Cherrim outspeeds and almost 2HKOs back

Bad
==Jupiter 1==
Luxio L22 @ Oran Berry
Spark 5HKOs Skuntank. Skuntank outspeeds and 1HKOs back with a crit Night Slash. With Oran Berry, you can avoid a 3HKO from -1 Night Slash

Needs luck to beat Skuntank
==Fantina==
Luxio L25 @ Rawst Berry
Bite 2HKOs Duskull, 3HKOs Mismagius, and puts Haunter in red. Haunter outspeeds and 3HKOs back with +0 Shadow Claw. Mismagius 2HKOs back

Beats 2 at best
==Rival(Hearthome)==
Luxio L26
-1 Spark 2HKOs Staravia, 1HKOs Buizel and 3HKOs Monferno. Staravia can be 2HKOed by Bite into Spark to avoid Endeavor. All 3 of them outspeeds

Without Intimidate drop
Spark is super close to 2HKOing Monferno
Bite 3HKOs Roselia

Beats 2 or 3
==Maylene==
Luxray L31
Spark puts Meditite in red, and is close to 2HKOing the rest. Meditite outspeeds after a speed drop from Rock Tomb

Beats 2. If you Intim on Lucario, you can beat it and possibly Machoke afterwards
==Rival(Pastoria)==
Luxray L34
-1 Spark 1HKOs Buizel and is close to 1HKOing Staravia
-1 Bite 3HKOs Roselia

Without Intimidate drop
Spark 2HKOs Monferno
Bite 2HKOs Roselia

Beats 3
==Wake==
Luxray L35
-1 Spark 1HKOs Gyarados. Gyarados outspeeds
Spark is close to 1HKOing Floatzel

Beats 1. Could beat 2 if you can 1HKO Floatzel or if you used Thunderbolt against it, but you need luck around not getting flinched by Gyarados (Floatzel will finish you off if it does)
==Cyrus 1==
Luxray L37
Spark 2HKOs Sneasel, 1HKOs Murkrow, and has a roll to 1HKO Golbat. All outspeeds

Needs luck to sweep, otherwise you're taking out 2
==Rival(Canalave)==
Luxray L38 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 1HKOs Staraptor and Floatzel, 2HKOs Heracross and Infernape. All outspeeds, Heracross 3HKOs back

Beats 3 at best
==Byron==
Luxray L39 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 2HKOs Magneton and 3HKOs Bastiodon

Beats 2
==Saturn 1==
Luxray L39 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 1HKOs Golbat and 2HKOs the rest. Golbat and Toxicroak outspeeds, the latter can 2HKO back after a chip from Golbat

Beats 2
==Mars 2==
Luxray L40 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 1HKOs Golbat and puts the rest in red. Golbat outspeeds

Can sweep barring hax. You lose to Purugly if Golbat went for Toxic
==Candice==
Luxray L42 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 2HKOs Sneasel.
Crunch 2HKOs Froslass. Froslass outspeeds and 2HKOs back (almost 1HKOs back if you take on Sneasel)

Beats 1
==Cyrus 2==
Luxray L44 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 2HKOs Sneasel and 1HKOs the rest. Sneasel and Crobat outspeeds.

Can sweep
==Saturn 2==
Luxray L44 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 1HKOs Golbat and 2HKOs the rest. Toxicroak outspeeds and can 2HKO you after some chip

Beats 2
==Cyrus 3==
Luxray L46 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 1HKOs Gyarados, Honchkrow and Crobat. Honchkrow speedties

Beats 2 or 3.
==Volkner==
Luxray L48
Crunch 5HKOs Jolteon due to Potion, 2HKOs Raichu, 4HKOs Luxray and Electivire. All outspeeds bar its own Luxray, Raichu 3HKOs back, Electivire 5HKOs back with -1 Fire Punch

Beats 1 or 2
==Rival(League)==
Luxray 51 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 3HKOs Snorlax, and 1HKOs Floatzel. Staraptor outspeeds and U-turns out into Snorlax, and it beats you if you attempt to beat Snorlax

Beats 2
==Aaron==
Luxray L51-42
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 1HKOs Yanmega and Vespiquen, and 2HKOs the rest. Heracross outspeeds and 2HKOs back with -1 Close Combat.

Needs 1 heal to beat 4
==Bertha==
Luxray L52
Crunch 3HKOs Whiscash.

Bad
==Flint==
Luxray L52 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 2HKOs Houndoom, Rapidash and is close to 2HKOing Flareon. Houndoom outspeeds and 2HKOs back, Flareon KOs back with Overheat into -1 Quick Attack, Rapidash outspeeds and 3HKOs back with -1 Flare Blitz (2HKOs if Sunny Day is up)

Only beats Rapidash, which needs luck around sun not being up against it
==Lucian==
Luxray L52
Crunch 2HKOs Espeon, and 1HKOs Alakazam and Mr. Mime (2HKOs after Reflect). They all outspeed and 2HKOs back

May needs 1 offscreen heal to beat 2
==Cynthia==
Luxray L53
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 2HKOs Spiritomb, Togekiss and Milotic. Togekiss and Milotic outspeeds and 2HKOs back

Beats 1

C Tier, with a chance of B Tier. This mon feels more of a C Tier, but I could see it in B. Its Electric-typing can be a lifesaver, especially into some of the harder bosses, which is why I think Luxray is great on some people, and double Intim core with Staraptor is great at neutering physical attackers. Spark is a great STAB in the early-game, but that's its only best physical STAB throughout the game. Thunderbolt is fine tho. Its middling speed is a letdown on some fights, and its showcased by Wake. Unless you outspeed his Gyarados, you have to rely on not getting flinched or Floatzel will beat you.

Psyduck

Bashful
HP: Fire
“Good endurance”
HP: 12
Atk: 21-23
Def: 28
SpA: 13-14
SpD: 0-9
Spe: 20-23
==Roark==
Psyduck L11-12
Water Gun is a total of 3HKO on Cranidos due to Potion and it 1HKOs the rest. Cranidos outspeeds and 2HKOs back

Beats 2. Can only sweep if you're faster than Cranidos
==Mars 1==
Psyduck L16
Water Gun 3HKOs Zubat and does little to Purugly. Purugly 3HKOs back
==Gardenia==
Psyduck L20
Confusion 5HKOs Turtwig. Turtwig 2HKOs back, the rest outspeeds and 1HKOs back

Bad
==Jupiter 1==
Psyduck L21
Confusion 3HKOs Zubat. Zubat 3HKOs back
==Fantina==
Psyduck L25
Water Pulse 3HKOs Duskull
Confusion 2HKOs Haunter

Beats 1 or 2
==Rival(Hearthome)==
Psyduck L25
Water Pulse 2HKOs Staravia. Barry immediately switches out his Staravia for Roselia.
==Maylene==
Golduck L33 @ Shell Bell / Cheri Berry
Water Pulse 3HKOs Lucario (4HKOs if it went for Drain Punch) and 2HKOs the rest
Brick Break 2HKOs Lucario. Lucario outspeeds, Golduck survives 2 hits.

Needs to reach L33 to beat 2. Needs Brick Break to beat Lucario.
==Rival(Pastoria)==
Golduck L34
Water Pulse 2HKOs Staravia and is close to 1HKOing Monferno.

Beats 3 at best, with a small posibility to sweep
==Wake==
Golduck L35
Mind Plate Confusion 6HKOs Gyarados. Gyarados 4HKOs back
Water Pulse 3HKOs Quagsire

Beats 1
==Cyrus 1==
Golduck L37 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs 2HKOs Sneasel and Golbat. Murkrow outspeeds and possibly fisnishes you off

Beats 2
==Rival(Canalave)==
Golduck L38 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Surf 1HKOs Staraptor and Infernape, and 2HKOs Floatzel and Heracross. Infernape outspeeds and 3HKOs back

Beats 3 or 4 at best

==Byron==
Golduck L40 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Surf 1HKOs all

Clean sweep
==Saturn 1==
Golduck L40
Choice Specs Surf puts all in red

Can sweep
==Mars 2==
Golduck L40
Choice Specs Surf puts all in red. Purugly 2HKOs back if Golbat went for Air Cutter

Beats 2
==Candice==
Golduck L42-43
Choice Specs Surf 1HKOs Piloswine, 2HKOs Froslass and puts Sneasel in red. Froslass outspeeds and 3HKOs back (2HKOs if you take on Sneasel)

Beats 2. It can beat Froslass 1v1 barring hax, albeit its less annoying due to Cloud Nine.
==Cyrus 2==
Golduck L44
Choice Specs Surf 2HKOs all

Beats 2
==Saturn 2==
Golduck L44-45
Choice Specs Surf puts all in red

Can sweep barring hax
==Cyrus 3==
Golduck L45
Choice Specs Surf 1HKOs Houndoom. Houndoom outspeeds and almost 2HKOs back
Choice Specs Ice Beam is close to 1HKOing Honchkrow and Crobat

May only beat 1
==Volkner==
Golduck L48
Choice Specs Surf 2HKOs all. All outpeeds bar Luxary and 2HKOs back (Electivire almost 1HKOs back)

Beats 1
==Rival(League)==
Golduck L51-52
Choice Specs Ice Beam 1HKOs Staraptor and Roserade. Infernape comes in next after these 2

Choice Specs Surf 2HKOs Heracross and Floatzel
Beats 3 at best
==Aaron==
Golduck L52
Choice Spec Surf 1HKOs Yanmega, 2HKOs the rest bar Vespiquen, who is close to 2HKOing after a Defend Order. Drapion outspeeds and 3HKOs back

Beats 2
==Bertha==
Golduck L52-53
Choice Specs Surf 2HKOs Whiscash and 1HKOs the rest. Golduck survives an Earth Power into Gliscor's Earthquake (Gliscor outspeeds)

Can sweep
==Flint==
Golduck L52 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Surf 1HKOs all bar Magmortar, who is close to 1HKOing.

Beats 4. Can sweep if you can 1HKO Magmortar
==Lucian==
Golduck L53
Choice Specs 2HKOs Mr. Mime (4HKOs after Light Screen) and Espeon. Both outspeeds and 2HKOs back

Bad
==Cynthia==
Golduck L54 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Surf 2HKOs Spiritomb
Choice Specs Ice Beam 1HKOs Garchomp. Golduck survives an Earthquake from full

Beats 1

C Tier. Psyduck is just bleh until Surf, and its Roark matchup requires you to be faster than Cranidos in order to sweep there. I think you’re better off just catching a wild Golduck instead. Surf Golduck is a good mon, and I do like that it could actually beat Cynthia's Garchomp, but that's pretty much about it. I tried this mon as a HM Slave on some run, and its like 2nd best one right after Bidoof. It doesn't learn Cut, but that move was only used in like one section and is pretty much useless afterward(unless you want to grab Earthquake TM or Shock Wave TM). Too bad Psyduck doesn't learn Rock Climb (only Golduck does).

Cranidos

Quirky
HP: Ground
“Good endurance”
HP: 19-20
Atk: 12-13
Def: 23
SpA: 0-1
SpD: 7-8
Spe: 12
==Gardenia==
Cranidos L20
Rock Tomb is a total of 3HKO on Turtwig without Potion. Turtwig almost 1HKOs back(guaranteed if you used Take Down), the rest outspeeds and 1HKOs back

Bad.
==Jupiter 1==
Cranidos L22
Rock Tomb 1HKOs Zubat and 5HKOs Skuntank. Skuntank outspeeds and 2HKOs back.
==Fantina==
Cranidos L25 @ Rawst Berry
Assurance is a total of 3HKO on Duskull due to Potion.
Mismagius 1HKOs back with Shadow Ball
==Rival(Hearthome)==
Cranidos L25
-1 Rock Tomb 2HKOs Buizel and puts Staravia in red. Cranidos outspeeds both after a speed drop.
-1 Earthquake puts Buizel in red.

Without Intimidate drop
Earthquake 1HKOs Buizel and Monferno and is super close to 1HKOing Roselia. All outspeeds

Beats 2 at best
==Maylene==
Rampardos L31 @ Cheri Berry
Earthquake 2HKOs Machoke and 1HKOs the rest. Rampardos survives a Force Palm from Lucario

Can sweep if Machoke went for Focus Energy
==Rival(Pastoria)==
Rampardos L34
-1 Rock Tomb is close to 1HKOing Staravia
-1 Earthquake 2HKOs Roselia
==Wake==
Rampardos L35
-1 Rock Tomb has a roll to 2HKO Gyarados. Gyarados almost 1HKOs back.
Earthquake could 2HKO Floatzel and is close to 2HKOing Quagsire. Both 2HKOs back.

-1 Thunderpunch has a roll to 1HKO Gyarados
Thunderpunch is close to 1HKOing Floatzel

meh
==Cyrus 1==
Rampardos L37 @ Mind Plate
Rock Tomb 1HKOs Sneasel and Murkrow
Mind Plate Zen Headbutt 1HKOs Golbat.

Needs luck to sweep
==Rival(Canalave)==
Rampardos L39
-1 Rock Tomb 2HKOs Staraptor
-1 Earthquake 2HKOs Floatzel. Floatzel 3HKOs back.

Earthquake 1HKOs Infernape. Floatzel/Infernape finishes you off after a Take Down from Staraptor.

Beats 1 or 2
==Byron==
Rampardos L40
Earthquake 2HKOs Steelix and 1HKOs the rest. Rampardos survives an Earthquake from Steelix

Clean sweep
==Saturn 1==
Rampardos L40
Zen Headbutt 1HKOs Golbat and the rest are 1HKOed by Earthquake

Can sweep barring hax
==Mars 2==
Rampardos L41 @ Pecha Berry
Zen Headbutt 1HKOs Golbat
Earthquake 1HKOs Bronzor and 2HKOs Purugly

Can sweep. You need Pecha Berry to deal with Toxic, as Purugly will finished you off if you're statused
==Candice==
Rampardos L42 @ Soft Sand
Set-up Rock Polish and Swords Dance
+2 Rock Tomb 1HKO Abomasnow, the rest are 1HKOed by +2 Soft Sand Earthquake

Can sweep
==Cyrus 2==
Rampardos L44-45 @ Wide Lens
Set-up Rock Polish and 1HKO all with Rock Slide. Crobat still outspeeds.

Can sweep
==Saturn 2==
Rampardos L44-45
Set-up Rock Polish
Rock Slide 1HKOs Golbat and the rest are 1HKOed by Earthquake

Can sweep
==Cyrus 3==
Rampardos L46 @ Rawst Berry
Rock Slide 1HKOs all bar Gyarados, who survives a hit due to Intimidate. At full health, Rampardos can easily set-up Rock Polish against Crobat, Honchkrow or Weavile and outspeed all of them. If Houndoom attacks you, you can only set-up on Crobat unless you off-screen heal

Can beat 4
==Volkner==
Rampardos L48 @ Cheri Berry
Set-up Rock Polish and 1HKO all with Earthquake
Clean sweep
==Rival(League)==
Rampardos L52
-1 Rock Slide 1HKOs Staraptor after a Defense Drop.

Avoiding Staraptor
Rock Slide 1HKOs Roserade, 2HKOs Heracross and puts Floarzel in red. Floatzel almost 2HKOs back with Brick Break. Aqua Jet is only a 3HKO.

Beats 1 at best. With 1 heal, you might possibly beat the rest if set-up Rock Polish
==Aaron==
Rampardos L52-53
Rock Slide 1HKOs Yanmega and Vespiquen
Earthquake 2HKOs Drapion. Drapion 4HKOs back
Head Smash 1HKOs Scizor. Scizor speedties

Beats 3. Can beat 4 if you set-up Rock Polish and SD on Drapion.
==Bertha==
Rampardos L52-53
Earthquake 2HKOs Whiscash and Golem. All 1HKOs back

Bad
==Flint==
Rampardos L52
Set-up Rock Polish and 1HKOs all with Earthquake. Infernape finishes you off if Houndoom attacks you

Can sweep
==Lucian==
Rampardos L53 @ Soft Sand
+4 Soft Sand Earthquake 1HKOs all. If Mime uses Reflect on T2 instead of T1, then Gallade lives a hit and beats you

Can sweep
==Cynthia==
Rampardos L53
Rock Slide is close to 2HKOing Spiritomb. Spiritomb 2HKOs back, Togekiss 1HKOs back.

Bad unless you reliably 2HKO Spiritomb

B Tier. Rampardos is carried by having a super high Attack stat, because man, does this mon used Earthquake a lot on routes, and some unSTAB move in some cases, and if you value STAB so much, then have fun using Rock Tomb until after Gym 7. Performance-wise, it does have some good matchups, including Distortion Cyrus, but it may rely on AI derps to sweep some fights, such as Maylene, Flint, and Lucian. i didn’t like it only uses Swords Dance for 2 or 3 matchups (Candice and Lucian, and to some extent, Aaron). I’m not sure what’s the average time for finding the fossil in the Underground, because I got mine in just under 5 minutes, and that might drop it to C if it takes too long. It also hogs the Earthquake TM for itself, and it needs it to sweep Candice (If you’re not gonna used Fire Punch), Maylene, and Byron.

Croagunk

Docile
HP: Rock
“Often lost in thoughts”
HP: 4-7
Atk: 18-20
Def: 9-11
SpA: 23
SpD: 5-7
Spe: 0-3
==Maylene==
Croagunk L31 @ Fist Plate
Can 1v1 Lucario by 1HKOing it with Fist Plate Revenge
Beats 1 at best
==Rival(Pastoria)==
Croagunk L34 @ Fist Plate

Fist Plate Brick Break 3HKOs Roselia (4HKOs if it goes for Leech Seed T1) and is super close to 1HKOing Buizel. Roselia outspeeds and almost 3HKOs back (guaranteed if it goes for Leech Seed)

Might only beat Buizel at best, beating Roselia requires luck
==Wake==
Croagunk L36 @ Wide Lens / Zoom Lens
-1 Faint Attack 19HKOs Gyarados due to Potion.
Revenge (unboosted) 5HKOs Floatzel
Brick Break 4HKOs Floatzel
+4 Wide Lens Focus Blast 2HKOs Gyarados and 1HKOs the rest. Good luck hitting
Despite Dry Skin, Gyarados and Floatzel still kept spamming their Water move for whatever reason
You need Focus Blast to sweep here, otherwise you only beat Floatzel. You can beat Gyarados, but its very slow

As L37 Toxicroak
Set-up SD twice. Gyarados still spams Waterfall despite Dry Skin
+3 Faint Attack 2HKOs Gyarados, the rest are 1HKOed by +3 Fist Plate Brick Break

Clean sweep
==Cyrus 1==
Toxicroak L37
Brick Break 1HKOs Sneasel. Sneasel outspeeds and 3HKOs back
+2 Faint Attack 2HKOs Golbat. Golbat 2HKOs back
Murkrow outspeeds and 1HKOs back

Only beats Sneasel
==Rival(Canalave)==
Toxicroak L38-39
Avoid Staraptor and set-up SD to the max against Floatzel and 1HKO the rest with Brick Break. All outspeeds (Roserade was faster than L38 Toxicroak, but at L39, Toxicroak is faster than it). If you're slower than Roserade, you need to win 50/50 as it either finishes you off or it randomly goes for status if you used Sucker Punch, Grasswhistle is more threatening.

Beats 3 or 4
==Byron==
Toxicroak L39 @ Fist Plate
Fist Plate Brick Break 1HKOs Magneton and is close to 1HKOing Bastiodon. Magneton 2HKOs back
+2 Fist Plate Brick Break is close to 1HKOing Steelix

Beats 2 at best. Can only sweep if you can 1HKO Steelix
==Saturn 1==
Toxicroak L40
Fist Plate Brick Break 2HKOs Bronzor
+2 Dread Plate Sucker Punch puts Golbat in red. Golbat outspeeds and almost 2HKOs back

Beats 1 at best
==Mars 2==
Toxicroak L40
Fist Plate Brick Break 2HKOs Bronzor and 1HKOs Purugly. Purugly 3HKOs back, Bronzor 2HKOs back, Golbat outspeeds and 2HKOs back

Beats 1 at best
==Candice==
Toxicroak L43 @ Oran Berry
+2 Sucker Punch 1HKOs Froslass and the rest are 1HKOed by +2 Brick Break. Sneasel almost 2HKOs back, Abomasnow is sent out last, so no Snow Cloak hax from Froslass

Can only sweep if you avoid a 2HKO from Sneasel.
==Cyrus 2==
Toxicroak L44-45 @ Dread Plate
Brick Break 1HKOs Sneasel. Sneasel almost 2HKOs back
+2 Dread Plate Sucker Punch 2HKOs Crobat

Beats 1
==Saturn 2==
Toxicroak L45
+2 Sucker Punch 2HKOs Golbat. Golbat outspeeds and almost 2HKOs back
+2 Brick Break 1HKOs Bronzor

Beats 2
==Cyrus 3==
Toxicroak L46 @ Rawst Berry
Brick Break 1HKOs Houndoom and Weavile. Both outspeeds

Beats 2. You need to heal if Houndoom attacks you
==Volkner==
Toxicroak L48
+4 Dread Plate Sucker Punch 1HKOs all bar Luxray, who was put in red.

Unreliable to get an SD Sweep. It needs Dread Plate to 1HKO Electivire, which means no Cheri Berry. Electivire (and possibly even Jolteon) picks you off with Quick Attack after a Charge Beam into +1 Charge Beam from Jolteon. Electivire comes in next
==Rival(League)==
Toxicroak L51 @ Chesto Berry
Poison Jab 2HKOs Floatzel
Brick Break 2HKOs Snorlax
+2 Sucker Punch is super close to 1HKOing Roserade
+2 Brick Break 1HKOs Snorlax. Set-up SD on Roserade, Snorlax comes in after that

Beats 3
==Aaron==
Toxicroak L52 @ Toxic Plate
Toxic Plate Poison Jab 2HKOs Heracross and 3HKOs Vespiquen without Defend Order boost. Heracross outspeeds and almost 2HKOs back with Close Combat
Brick Break 3HKOs Scizor. Scizor 2HKOs back

Beats 1. You need 1 heal to beat 2
You can beat 4 if you set-up SD on Heracross, but you need 1 or 2 heal to not get picked off by Drapion (it comes in next after Heracross) and hoping Heracross isn't going for Close Combat (glad it randomly uses moves)
==Bertha==
Toxicroak L52
Nope, gets smashed to oblivion
==Flint==
Toxicroak L52
Fist Plate Brick Break 1HKOs Houndoom. Houndoom outspeeds and 2HKOs back, the rest 1HKOs back

Beats 1
==Lucian==
Toxicroak L52 @ Dread Plate
Attempt 1
Sucker Punch, but it failed
Mr. Mime used Reflect

Attempt 2
time to go SD...
Mr. Mime used Psychic

Attempt 3
going SD again
Mr. Mime used Psychic

Attempt 4
maybe i should go Sucker Punch... But it failed
Mr. Mime used Reflect

Attempt 5
Sucker Punch, but it failed
Mr. Mime used Reflect

OH, COME ON

Attempt 6
Used SD and Mr. Mime went for Light Screen
Finally, then Bronzong comes in next and is only 2HKOed by +2 Brick Break
Dread Plate Sucker Punch 2HKOs Mr. Mime under Reflect, 1HKOs Alakazam, 2HKOs Espeon. All 1HKOs back, Mr. Mime had tendency to go for Psychic or Reflect

Only beats Zam at best. You have to win 50/50 to beat Mr. Mime
==Cynthia==
Toxicroak L53 @ Fist Plate
Fist Plate Brick Break 3HKOs Milotic and 2HKOs Lucario. Lucario almost 2HKOs back with Extreme Speed. Earthquake prob 1HKOs

Beats 1. Could beat 2 if Lucario went for Extreme Speed for whatever reason, but you need 1 heal to beat both.

C Tier. I won't say much here besides this mon just cheeses Wake so hard, because the AI doesn't take account Dry Skin's Water Immunity, though you need to evolved there for that fight. Outside of that, it was okay overall

Uxie

Docile
HP: Dragon
“Somewhat of a clown”
HP: 10-11
Atk: 18-19
Def: 10-11
SpA: 7
SpD: 11
Spe: 23
==Volkner==
Uxie L50 @ Choice Specs
Specs Psychic 3HKOs Electivire and 2HKOs the rest. Jolteon outspeeds, Luxray 3HKOs back

Beats 2 at best
==Rival(League)==
Uxie L50 @ Choice Specs
Specs Psychic 1HKOs Roserade and Infernape, and puts Heracross in red. Staraptor outspeeds and 3HKOs back with U-turn.

Beats 3
==Aaron==
Uxie L52 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Tbolt 2HKOs Vespiquen(3HKOs after a Defend Order boost), 3HKOs Scizor and puts Yanmega in red. Yanmega and Vespiquen 2HKOs back, the latter can stall you out, Scizor 1HKOs back
Choice Specs Psychic is close to 1HKOing Heracross. Heracross 1HKOs back

Bad, unless you can 1HKO Heracross
==Bertha==
Uxie L52 @ Choice Specs
Specs Grass Knot 5HKOs Gliscor, 2HKOs Whiscash and Hippowdon, and 1HKOs the rest even under Sandstorm. She sents out Gliscor last
==Flint==
Uxie L52
Specs Psychic KOs Infernape after a recoil fron sun-boosted Flare Blitz, and it 3HKOs Flareon

Beats 1
==Lucian==
Uxie L52
Specs Shadow Ball 4-5HKOs Gallade, 2HKOs Zam and is close to 2HKOing Espeon and Mr. Mime(close to 4HKOing after a Light Screen). All outspeeds bar Bronzong, Mr. Mime 4HKOs back, Gallade 3HKOs back, Espeon 2HKOs back, Zam almost 3HKOs back

Beats 1 at best. Needs 1 heal to beat 2
==Cynthia==
Uxie L52 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Psychic 2HKOs Roserade. Roserade outspeeds and 2HKOs back.

Only beats Roserade if it went for Toxic turn 1.

E Tier. Its a late-game mon with a middling offense, but its damage output is barely different compared to Mesprit in terms of KO ranges, and its better speed and bulk would gave it score certain KOs reliably

Mesprit

Docile
HP: Water
“Loves to eat
HP: 30
Atk: 0-1
Def: 0-1
SpA: 2-3
SpD: 3
Spe: 7
==Volkner==
Mesprit L50 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Psychic 2HKOs all. Luxray 2HKOs back, the rest outspeeds

Beats 1 or 2 at best
==Rival(League)==
Mesprit L50 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Psychic 1HKOs Heracross, Roserade, Infernape, and is super close to 1HKOing Floatzel. All outspeeds bar Snorlax, Staraptor almost 2HKOs back with U-turn(he brings in Heracross after U-turn), Heracross 3HKOs back with Night Slash

Beats 2 or 3
==Aaron==
Mesprit L52 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 1HKOs Yanmega and 2HKOs Vespiquen. Yanmega outspeeds and puts you in red, Heracross outspeeds and 1HKOs back

Beats 1, you need a 1 off-screen heal to beat 2
==Bertha==
Mesprit L52 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Grass Knot 4HKOs Gliscor, 2HKOs Whiscash and 1HKOs the rest even under Sandstorm. She sents out Gliscor last

Beats 4
==Flint==
Mesprit L52
Choice Specs Psychic KOs Infernape after a recoil from Flare Blitz. All outspeeds, including Flareon

Beats 1
==Lucian==
Mesprit L52
Specs Shadow Ball 2HKOs Mr. Mime (3HKOs under Light Screen t1), 2HKOs Espeon and Alakazam, 4HKOs Gallade. All outspeeds bar Bronzong, Espeon 2HKOs back, Gallade and Zam 3HKOs back, Mr. Mime 4HKOs back

Beats 1 at best. Needs 1 heal to beat 2
==Cynthia==
Mesprit L52
Specs Psychic is close to 1HKOing Roserade. Roserade outspeeds and 2HKOs back

Specs Ice Beam is close to 1HKOing Garchomp

F Tier, with a chance of E Tier. Horrible IVs aside, there's not that much difference between Mesprit and Uxie in terms of power, but the lower speed can hurt a bit. It could still be F Tier due to being a roaming pokemon, which is still annoying to get even with Marker Map App.

 

[ianlazerbeem]

Glad to see the thread back. However I'd like to speak out AGAINST tiering Rotom forms, and if they're tiered, we should also be tiering every single other event pokemon. Tiering the alternate Rotom forms because "everyone has access to the dns exploit" (not true, especially factoring in that emulation exists) does not make any sense unless every single other event is being tiered and considered. We can tier the level 5 Jirachi and mew, the manaphy egg, we can tier the event legendary beasts, event Deoxys, etc, but should we? "It can be easily accessed with cheats or cfw" does not move the needle for me because those shouldn't be considered in a standard tier list at all.

With this in mind I'd like to nominate Jirachi for A rank, Mew for A rank, Suicune for A, Entei for B, Raikou for B, Deoxys in A, the Manaphy egg in B, Phione in F, almia darkrai in A, and the level 100 Arceus in S. Or we could simply not tier event exclusives. It doesn't make sense to do "just one because this one is special and somehow different"

 

[Roldski32]

I... gave up on that DNS exploit thingy on my ongoing run. Felt kinda complicated to do it personally and also, i didn't have a hotspot without password apparently. I only tried to do it because i got curious, but looking back at it, it does feel weird to include such exploit in a tier list, especially when its only used on one mon (Rotom).

Anyway, here's a Platinum run (not the ongoing one) consisting of Dustox, Beautifly, Noctowl, Vaporeon, and Absol

Wurmple(Dustox)

Docile
HP: Steel
“Good perseverance”
HP: 3
Atk: 0-1
Def: 23-29
SpA: 7-9
SpD: 24
Spe: 10-13
==Gardenia==
Dustox L20
Bug Bite is close to 2HKOing Turtwig after a Reflect on T1.
W/o Reflect, it 4HKOs Rade and is close to 2HKOing Cherrim

Can sweep if Cherrim didn't Leech Seed you

(Bonus)
Docile
“Good Endurance”
HP: 0-8
Atk: 0-4
Def: 24-31
SpA: 9-16
SpD: 0-8
Spe: 12-19

Dustox L20
Gust 3HKOs Turtwig, 4HKOs Cherrim and is super close to 6HKOing Roserade. Rade 7HKOs back.

Beats 1. Rade is beatable via healing
==Jupiter 1==
Dustox L21
Bug Bite 7HKOs Skuntank. Skuntank 3HKOs back
==Fantina==
Dustox L25
Psybeam 2HKOs Haunter and is super close to 4HKOing Duskull
==Rival(Hearthome)==
Dustox L25-26 @ SilverPowder
Psybeam 3HKOs Buizel and 4HKOs Ponyta and Staravia, and is close to 5HKOing Grotle. Ponyta 5HKOs back
SP Bug Bite 2HKOs Buizel(3HKOs if it uses Growl T1) and 3HKOs Grotle(close to 3HKOing if it uses Withdraw T1)

Beats 2
==Maylene==
Dustox L32 @ SilverPowder
MP Psybeam 3HKOs Meditite and is close to 2HKOing Machoke and 6HKOing Lucario. All 3HKOs back
SP Bug Bite/Silver Wind is close to 2HKOing Meditite

Beats 1
==Rival(Pastoria)==
Dustox L34-35 @ SilverPowder
SilverPowder Silver Wind 2HKOs Buizel and is close to 2HKOing Grotle
Psybeam is close to 4HKOing Ponyta

Beats 2
==Wake==
Dustox L35 @ SilverPowder
SP Silver Wind 4HKOs Quagsire.Quagsire can 3HKO back
SP Bug Bite is close to 5HKOing Quagsire and 4HKOing Floatzel. Floatzel still 3HKOs back

Quag is only beatable if Wake used up all his Potions
==Cyrus 1==
Dustox L37 Silverpowder / Choice Specs
SP Bug Bite 2HKOs Sneasel. Sneasel 3HKOs back
Psybeam 4HKOs Golbat(3HKOs if using Specs). Golbat 3HKOs back
Choice Specs Silver Wind 2HKOs Sneasel. All outspeeds

Beats 1
==Rival(Canalave)==
Dustox L38 @ SilverPowder / Choice Specs
SilverPowder Bug Bite 3HKOs Torterra(4HKOs if it went for Leech Seed) and is super close to 3HKOing Floatzel
Choice Specs Silver Wind is close to 2HKOing Floatzel and Torterra

Beats 1 or 2
==Byron==
Dustox L39
lol
==Saturn 1==
Dustox L39 @ Choice Specs
Specs Psychic 2HKOs Golbat and 1HKOs Toxicroak. Golbat 3HKOs back, Toxicroak finished you off if you take on Golbat unless you offscreen heal
Specs Silver Wind is close to 3HKOing Bronzor

Beats 1 (2 with healing)
==Mars 2==
Dustox L41 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Bug Buzz 3HKOs Purugly and is super close to 2HKOing Bronzor

Beats 2
==Candice==
Dustox L42 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Bug Buzz 2HKOs Abomasnow, has a roll to 1HKO Sneasel, and is close to 2HKOing Piloswine. Sneasel almost 2HKOs back, Piloswine and Abomasnow 2HKOs back and they finished you off if you take on Sneasel

Beats 1 (Needs 1 off screen heal to beat 2)
==Cyrus 2==
Dustox L44 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Bug Buzz puts Sneasel in red. Sneasel almost 2HKOs back
Choice Specs Psychic is close to 2HKOing Crobat. Crobat almost 2HKOs back

Beats 1
==Saturn 2==
Dustox L44 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Psychic 2HKOs Golbat and 1HKOs Toxicroak. Golbat almost 2HKOs back
Choice Specs Bug Buzz is close to 2HKOing Bronzor. Bronzor 4HKOs back
==Cyrus 3==
Dustox L45 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Bug Buzz 2HKOs Weavile. You lived a Fake Out into Ice Punch, however 2 Ice Punches KOs you

Beats 1
==Volkner==
Dustox L48 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Sludge Bomb 3HKOs all (Luxray is 2HKOed if poisoned in first hit)

Needs luck or heal to beat 1
==Rival(League)==
Dustox L50 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Bug Buzz 2HKOs Floatzel and Torterra. One of them finishes you off if you take on both

Beats 1 (2 with offscreen heal)
==Aaron==
Dustox L50 @ Choice Specs
Drapion and Vepiquen(w/o DO boost) are 4HKOed by Choice Specs Bug Buzz/Sludge Bomb(Drapion may switch out). Both 2HKOs back, Yanmega and Hera 1HKOs back

Bad
==Bertha==
Dustox L50 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Giga Drain 2HKOs Whiscash, Golem, Rhyperior(3HKOs under Sand), 4HKOs Hippowdon. Hippo and Rhyp 1HKOs back, Whishcash and Golem 2HKOs back

Beats 2
==Flint==
Dustox L50
lol
==Lucian==
Dustox L51
lol
==Cynthia==
Dustox L51 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Bug Buzz 4HKOs Spiritomb. Spiritomb 2HKOs back

Bad

F Tier. This thing really needs Bug Bite for STAB, and without it, you're literally running a STABless mon for like 20 levels, and its not worth waiting that long to get a STAB in Silver Wind, which literally has same 60 BP as Bug Bite but with less PP. With only 50/50 offenses, STABless Dustox's damage output just makes Onix look like an actual nuke, at least that weak-sauce rock snake has a STAB to work with, including STAB Earthquake. Its so bad that I was only 3-4HKOing stuff on routes and its really showing by Gardenia, who is supposedly its best-matchup. Sure, you hardwalled her team, but Dustox almost lost to Cherrim and Roserade because its damage output sucks without Bug Bite. But Dustox has Moonlight to not die, tho? That doesn't mask the fact that it takes forever for Dustox to beat something (Does barely 6HKOing Roserade look like great to you?). I don't give a care if it hardwalls her team, what matters more is beating something quickly.

Wurmple(Beautifly)

Docile
HP: Steel
“Likes to run”
HP: 0-4
Atk: 12-18
Def: 0-8
SpA: 23-28
SpD: 25-31
Spe: 25-31
==Gardenia==
Beautifly L20
Gust 2HKOs Cherrim, 3HKOs Rade, and puts Turtwig in red.

Can sweep
==Jupiter 1==
Beautifly L21
Gust 2HKOs Zubat and is close to 5HKOing Skuntank. Both 2HKOs back, the latter outspeeds
==Fantina==
Beautifly L25
Gust 3HKOs Duskull and is close to 2HKOing Haunter
==Rival(Hearthome)==
Beautifly L26
Gust 2HKOs Grotle and Staravia and is close to 2HKOing Ponyta. Ponyta 3HKOs back, Staravia KOs back with Wing Attack into QA
Mega Drain puts Buizel in red.

Can sweep if Staravia didnt't attack
==Maylene==
Beautifly L32
Gust 2HKOs Machoke and is close to 1HKOing Meditite. Both 1HKOs back
Aerial Ace is super close to 1HKOing Meditite
Air Cutter 1HKOs Meditite and puts Machoke in red

Bad unless you dodged a Rock Tomb or you teach Air Cutter
==Rival(Pastoria)==
Beautifly L34
Gust 2HKOs Staravia and is close to 2HKOing Ponyta. Both outspeeds, Staravia 2HKOs back, Ponyta 3HKOs back
Air Cutter 2HKOs Ponyta
Silver Wind 2HKOs Buizel and Grotle

Beats 2
==Wake==
Beautifly L35
Mega Drain 2HKOs Quagsire.
Air Cutter 5HKOs Gyarados. Gyarados speedties almost 1HKOs back, the rest 1HKOs back

Bad unless you dodge a Rock Tomb or you grind to L38 for Giga Drain
==Cyrus 1==
Beautifly L37 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Air Cutter 2HKOs Golbat. Golbat 2HKOs back, the rest 1HKOs back, all outspeeds

Needs Psychic to beat 1.
==Rival(Canalave)==
Beautifly L38 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Air Cutter 1HKOs Heracross and 2HKOs the rest
All outspeeds bar Torterra, Staraptor 1HKOs back, Rapidash 2HKOs back, Heracross almost 1HKOs back
Choice Specs Giga Drain is super close to 1HKOing Floatzel

Beats 1 or 2
==Byron==
Beautifly L39 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Giga Drain 3HKOs Steelix. Steelix 2HKOs back, but it sometimes go for Sandstorm T1

Needs luck to beat 1
==Saturn 1==
Beautifly L39 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Psychic 1HKOs Golbat. Golbat 2HKOs back, Toxicroak 1HKOs back, both outspeeds
Choice Specs Silver Wind is close to 2HKOing Bronzor. Bronzor 2HKOs back

Needs Psychic or Bug Buzz to beat 1
==Mars 2==
Beautifly L41 @ Choice Specs
Specs Bug Buzz 2HKOs Bronzor and puts Purugly in red(1HKOs if Swarm-boosted, Silver Wind doesn't KO). Purugly almost KOs back with Fake Out into Slash (Slash alone doesn't put you in Swarm range)

Needs luck to beat 2
==Candice==
Beautifly L42-43 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Bug Buzz 1HKOs Sneasel and Abomasnow, 2HKOs Piloswine(1HKOs if Swarm-boosted). Sneasel puts you in Swarm-range

Can beat 3
==Cyrus 2==
Beautifly L44 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Psychic 2HKOs Crobat. Crobat outspeeds and 2HKOs back(also puts you in Swarm range)
Choice Specs Bug Buzz 2HKOs Honchkrow (super close to 1HKOing if Swarm-boosted). Sneasel and Honhkrow 1HKOs back, Sneasel outspeeds.

Bad unless you reliably 1HKO Honchkrow
==Saturn 2==
Beautifly L44 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Psychic 1HKOs Golbat and Toxicroak. Golbat 2HKOs back, Toxicroak almost 1HKOs back, both outspeeds
Choice Specs Bug Buzz 2HKOs Bronzor

Beats 1
==Cyrus 3==
Beautifly L45
All outspeeds and 1HKOs back

Bad
==Volkner==
Beautifly L48
Choice Specs Swarm boosted Bug Buzz 1HKOs Luxray, has a roll to 1HKO Raichu and is close to 1HKOing Jolteon. Jolteon and Raichu 2HKOs back and puts you in Swarm range on the first hit, all outspeeds bar Luxray

Can beat 2
==Rival(League)==
Beautifly L50
Choice Specs Bug Buzz 1HKOs Torterra and 3HKOs Snorlax. Floatzel is 1HKOed by a swarm boosted one. All outspeeds bar Snorlax, Staraptor, Rapidash, Heracross 1HKOs back, Snorlax and Floatel 2HKOs back

Beats 2
==Aaron==
Beautifly L50 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Swarm-boosted Bug Buzz puts Drapion in red.
Choice Specs Air Cutter 1HKOs Heracross, 2HKOs Vespiquen, 3HKOs Scizor. Drapion almost 1HKOs back, Scizor KOs back with Iron Head into QA, the rest 1HKOs back, Heracross, Drapion, Yanmega outspeeds

Bad (Can only beat Heracross if you dodged Stone Edge)
==Bertha==
Beautifly L50 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Giga Drain 2HKOs Hippowdon, 1HKOs Golem and Rhyperior(both lived under Sandstorm) and has a roll to 1HKO Whiscash. Golem, Hippo 1HKOs back

Can beat up to 3
==Flint==
Beautifly L51
lol
==Lucian==
Beautifly L51
Bronzong is 2HKOed by Specs Bug Buzz into a Swarm-boosted one(2 Bug Buzz without Swarm boost doesn't KO) and it seems like it clicks Psychic more than Calm Mind and Espeon is 1HKOed. Bronzong 2HKOs back, the rest 1HKOs back (Espeon is a roll)

Can beat 1
==Cynthia==
Beautifly L51 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Bug Buzz 2HKOs Spiritomb. Spiritomb puts you in red

Beats 1

F Tier. I initially thought this was better than Dustox, but somehow, it performed more miserably than it. Its overall performance just truly screams F Tier to me, beating literally 0 into some bosses, and requiring very specific stuff just to beat at least 1, few of which include hoping to dodge an enemy move. Really, I taught this mon Psychic to hit Saturn's Toxicroak in Lake Valor, only for it to get outsped and one-shotted by it, lol. It just outweighted whatever good thing Beautifly otherwise had like sure, you sweep Gardenia, but you're borderline deadweight afterwards for so long until Candice.

Hoothoot

Bashful
HP: Ground
“Capable of taking hits”
HP: 4
Atk: 7-9
Def: 17-23
SpA: 13-19
SpD: 5-11
Spe: 17-23
==Gardenia==
Noctowl L20
Pluck 2HKOs Rade and is close to 2HKOing the rest.

Can sweep
==Jupiter 1==
Noctowl L21
Pluck 7HKOs Skuntank and is close to 2HKOing Zubat. Skuntank almost 2HKOs back
==Fantina==
Noctowl L25
Pluck 3HKOs Duskull and 5HKOs Mismagius. Mismagius almost 5HKOs back without taking Sitrus heal from Pluck into account

Can 1v1 Mismagius
==Rival(Hearthome)==
Noctowl L25-26
Uproar 2HKOs Buizel and is super close to 2HKOing Staravia and Ponyta and 3HKOing Grotle. Staravia outspeeds and 3HKOs back, Ponyta speedties at L26

Pluck is super close to 3HKOing Grotle
Can beat 3
==Maylene==
Noctowl L32
Air Slash 1HKOs Meditite, 3HKOs Lucario(4HKOs if it went for Drain Punch) and has a roll to 1HKO Machoke. Luc outspeeds and 3HKOs back

Beats 2
==Rival(Pastoria)==
Noctowl L34
Air Slash 1HKOs Buizel and 2HKOs the rest(Staravia was put in red). All outspeeds bar Grotle

Beats 3. Can sweep if you used Confusion into Staravia.
==Wake==
Noctowl L35
Air Slash 3HKOs all bar Quagsire, who is super close to 2HKOing. Gyara and Floatzel outspeeds and 2HKOs back

Beats 1
==Cyrus 1==
Noctowl L37 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Air Slash 2HKOs Golbat and Murkrow. All outspeeds Murkrow almost 2HKOs back

Beats 1
==Rival(Canalave)==
Noctowl L37-38 @ Choice Specs
Specs Air Slash 1HKOs Heracross and 2HKOs the rest. All outspeeds bar Torterra, Hera almost 2HKOs back,

Beats 2
==Byron==
Noctowl L39
lol
==Saturn 1==
Noctowl L39 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Air Slash 2HKOs Golbat and 1HKOs Toxicroak. Both outspeeds, Toxcroak may finished you off if you take on Golbat

Beats 1 or 2
==Mars 2==
Noctowl L39 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Air Slash 2HKOs Golbat and Purugly. Purugly may finished you off

Beats 1 or 2(reliably 2 if you used Hyper Beam)
==Candice==
Noctowl L42 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Air Slash 2HKOs all bar Froslass. Sneasel almost 2HKOs back, Piloswine and Abomasnow 1HKOs back(Stone Edge from Piloswine doesn't KO and Abomasnow may go for other moves)

Beats 1, needs luck to beat 2
==Cyrus 2==
Noctowl L43 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Extrasensory 2HKOs Crobat
Choice Specs Air Slash 3HKOs Honchkrow. Honchkrow 2HKOs back

Beats 1
==Saturn 2==
Noctowl L44 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Extrasensory 2HKOs Golbat
Choice Specs Air Slash 1HKOs Toxicroak. Both outspeeds, Toxicroak finished you off if you take on Golbat

Beats 1
==Cyrus 3==
Noctowl L45 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Air Slash is close to 2HKOing Houndoom and Honchkrow. All outspeeds, Weavile 1HKOs back, the rest 2HKOs back
Choice Specs Extrasensory 2HKOs Crobat. Crobat almost 2HKOs back

Can beat 1, otherwise bad
==Volkner==
Noctowl L48 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Hyper Beam 1HKOs Raichu and is close to 1HKOing the rest. Evire 1HKOs back

Beats 1 with Hyper Beam
==Rival(League)==
Noctowl L50 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Air Slash 1HKOs Raptor due to CC def drop, and Heracross, 2HKOs Torterra. Heracross outspeeds and puts you in red

Beats 2
==Aaron==
Noctowl L50 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Air Slash 1HKOs Yanmega, 2HKOs Vespiquen. Yanmega 3HKOs back, Heracross outspeeds and 1HKOs back with CC

Beats 2
==Bertha==
Noctowl L51 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Air Slash 3HKOs Whiscash. Bertha may switch out for Golem
Choice Specs Hyper Beam puts Whiscash and Gliscor in red. Whiscash almost 2HKOs back, Gliscor 2HKOs back

Can beat 1
==Flint==
Noctowl L51 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Air Slash KOs Infernape after a recoil. Infernape 1HKOs back if sun is up, otherwise you live a hit
Choice Specs Hyper Beam puts Houndoom in red

Can beat 1
==Lucian==
Noctowl L51 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Air Slash does little to Mime after a LS, and it 3HKOs Espeon. Both 2HKOs back

Bad
==Cynthia==
Noctowl L51 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Air Slash 3HKOs Spiritomb, 2HKOs Roserade. Roserade 2HKOs back, Spiritomb 3HKOs back

Beats 1

E Tier, with a chance of D Tier. Noctowl is good enough for Fantina, and that's pretty much it. While STAB Air Slash is okayish, it may still have issue due to its offenses, and there were cases where I actually resorted to using Specs Hyper Beam, and even that may not let Noctowl score KOs.

Eevee (Vaporeon)

Bashful
HP: Ice
“Somewhat of a clown”
HP: 15-19
Atk: 10-14
Def: 0-4
SpA: 20-24
SpD: 20-24
Spe: 20-24

==Maylene==
Vaporeon L32
Water Gun 2HKOs Meditite(super close to 3HKOing due to Drain Punch) and 3HKOs Machoke. Both outspeeds after a Rock Tomb, Meditite 4HKOs back
Dig is close to 2HKOing Lucario(even using QA afterward doesn't KO). Luc 3HKOs back

Beats 1
==Rival(Pastoria)==
Vaporeon L34
Water Gun 2HKOs Staravia and Ponyta
Secret Power 2HKOs Buizel. All outspeeds bar Grotle.
Ice Beam 1HKOs Staravia and puts Grotle in red.

Beats 3. Could sweep with Ice Beam if Grotle didn't attack you.
==Wake==
Vaporeon L36
Aurora Beam 4HKOs Gyarados and Quagsire. Gyarados outspeeds and almost 4HKOs back
Ice Beam 3HKOs Gyarados and is close to 2HKOing Quagsire

Beats 1
==Cyrus 1==
Vaporeon L37 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Water Gun is close to 2HKOing Sneasel
Choice Specs Aurora Beam 2HKOs Golbat and 1HKOs Murkrow
Choice Specs Ice Beam 1HKOs Golbat. All outspeeds, Murkrow 3HKOs back

Beats 2
==Rival(Canalave)==
Vaporeon L38 @ Splash Plate
Splash Plate Surf 1HKOs Rapidash, 2HKOs Floatzel and Heracross and is close to 1HKOing Staraptor. All outspeeds bar Torterra, Staraptor 2HKOs back, Heracross almost 2HKOs back
Aurora Beam puts Staraptor and Torterra in red(Both are 1HKOed by Ice Beam). Torterra almost 1HKOs back with Overgrow Razor Leaf

Beats 3 or 4
==Byron==
Vaporeon L40-41 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Surf 1HKOs all.

Clean sweep
==Saturn 1==
Vaporeon L41-42 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Surf 1HKOs Golbat and is close to 1HKOing the rest.

Beats 2
==Mars 2==
Vaporeon L41-42 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Surf 1HKOs all bar Bronzor, who is close to 1HKOing.

Beats 2. Needs luck to sweep
==Candice==
Vaporeon L43 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Surf 1HKOs Sneasel and Piloswine, and puts Froslass in red. Sneasel 4HKOs back, Froslass almost 4HKOs back without Hail chip

Beats 2
==Cyrus 2==
Vaporeon L44 @ Choice Specs
Specs Surf puts Honchkrow in red and is close to 1HKOing Sneasel. Honchkrow 2HKOs back
Specs Ice Beam 1HKOs Honchkrow and is close to 1HKOing Crobat

Beats 2
==Saturn 2==
Vaporeon L44 @ Choice Specs
Specs Surf 1HKOs Toxicroak and is close to 1HKOing the rest. Golbat and Toxicroak outspeeds

Beats 2
==Cyrus 3==
Vaporeon L45 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Surf 1HKOs Houndoom, 2HKOs Weavile. Both outspeeds, Weavile 2HKOs back after a Fake Out
Choice Specs Ice Beam 1HKOs Honchkrow and Crobat. Both outspeeds, Honchkrow 2HKOs back, Crobat 3HKOs back

Needs 1 heal to beat 2 or 3
==Volkner==
Vaporeon L48 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Surf 2HKOs all(Luxray was put to red). All outspeeds, Jolteon and Raichu 3HKOs back, Luxray can 1HKO back, Evire almost 1HKOs back

Beats 1
==Rival(League)==
Vaporeon L50-51 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Surf 2HKOs Torterra and Floatzel, 1HKOs the rest(Heracross is 1HKOed due to CC Def drop) bar Snorlax, who is super close to 2HKOing. All outspeeds bar Lax, Staraptor likes to go for U-turn into Torterra on T1

Beats 3
==Aaron==
Vaporeon L51 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Surf 1HKOs Heracross after a CC def drop and Yanmega, 2HKOs the rest. Drapion 3HKOs back, Heracross almost 1HKOs back

Beats 2
==Bertha==
Vaporeon L51-52 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Surf 2HKOs Whiscash and 1HKOs the rest. Vaporeon lives a Whiscash Earth Power into Gliscor Earthquake, Hippo comes in last

Clean sweep
==Flint==
Vaporeon L51 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Surf 1HKOs all bar Magmortar who is close to 1HKOing( They all lived with sun up). All outspeeds, Infernape and Magmortar 2HKOs back

Beats 2 or 3
==Lucian==
Vaporeon L53 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Surf 2HKOs Mime(3HKOs after a Light Screen), Espeon and Bronzong. Mime and Espeon almost 2HKOs back

Beats 1. Needs 1 heal to beat 2
==Cynthia==
Vaporeon L53-54 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Surf 2HKOs Spiritomb and Lucario. Luc 2HKOs back with Stone Edge
Choice Specs Ice Beam 1HKOs Garchomp, 2HKOs Togekiss. You live an Earthquake

Beats 1

C Tier, with a great chance of B Tier. Its pretty bleh until you get Surf, which Vaporeon suddenly becomes a nuke, though its pretty slow. Its ability to 1HKO Cynthia's Garchomp looks more than enough to justify B Tier placement.

Absol

Docile
HP: Grass
“Highly persistent”
HP: 10-12
Atk: 1-3
Def: 25-27
SpA: 24-26
SpD: 15-16
Spe: 19-21
==Cyrus 3==
Absol L45 @ Dread Plate
Dread Plate Sucker Punch 2HKOs Crobat. All outspeeds and 2HKOs back, Weavile KOs back with Fake Out into X-Scissor

May beat 1, otherwise its bad
==Volkner==
Absol L48 @ Dread Plate
+2 Dread Plate Sucker Punch 1HKOs all bar Luxray, who is close to 1HKOing

Needs luck or healing to sweep
==Rival(League)==
Absol L50
Rapidash and Floatzel are 2HKOed by Bite into Sucker Punch. Barry may switch them out for Hera

Beats 1
==Aaron==
Absol L50 @ Dread Plate
Dread Plate Sucker Punch 2HKOs Yanmega

Bad
==Bertha==
Absol L50 @ Dread Plate
+2 Dread Plate Sucker Punch 1HKOs Whiscash. Whiscash 2HKOs back. Rhyperior comes in next and even a +4 you don't KO it.

Beats 1
==Flint==
Absol L50-51 @ Dread Plate
+2 Dread Plate Sucker Punch 1HKOs Rapidash, Flareon and Magmortar. They all 1HKO back (Rapidash is a roll)

Can beat up to 3 if you take out Infernape first or you'll only beat Rapidash, which you need enough bulk to live a hit from it, otherwise its bad here
==Lucian==
Absol L51
+6 Dread Plate Sucker Punch 1HKOs all. Mime 2HKOs back and it may attack you on T2. Fsr, it sometimes go for LS into TBolt, but if it went for Reflect into Tbolt, then you don't sweep (+4 DP Sucker Punch only puts Gallade in red due to Reflect)

Needs luck to sweep, otherwise you beat 3
==Cynthia==
Absol L52
Spiritomb 2HKOs back with Silver Wind into Sball/Dpulse, and you don't KO at +2

Bad

E Tier, with a chance of D Tier. The D Tier is moreso due to its great Lucian matchup, otherwise I'll just go E Tier here because its pretty mid outside of that fight.

 

[Volt-Ikazuchi]

Ok, so for the sake of simplicity and brevity...

The DNS exploit is banned.

Rotom will have to hold that, but let's be real, that's a much, much better fit for the What If thread.

Thread 'Expanded Tier List - What If?'

Mar 9, 2024

Permission received from DHR to post this, it might be moved to OI general later tho

So I saw this topic earlier which got locked after pointing the original poster to the IGTL section of the forum, which makes sense as the IGTL is the single-player arm of Smogon. However it got me lamenting a little bit about this board, and the reason why is because, once a tier list is done and written up and put on-site, there's no real room for reopening the topic or re-evaluating the Pokémon after the fact. I'm a little sad that discussions are basically tied to the temporal aspect...

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As usual, y'all can ping me if y'all need anything or got any questions. I've taken a minute to make the call because I wanted to let y'all discuss it, but it just seems like a net negative and an issue down the road.

 

[Roldski32]

This Platinum run consist of Bibarel, Drifblim, Clefable, Gardevoir, and Azelf

Bidoof

Bashful
HP: Grass
“Mischievous”
HP: 7-15
Atk: 10-26
Def: 4-19
SpA: 16/21/26
SpD: 4-19
Spe: 18-21
==Roark==
Bidoof L13
Set-up Defense Curl twice.
Curlout 4HKOs Geodude and the 5th hit deals 3/4 hp on Onix

Rock Smash 5HKOs Geodude and 4HKOs Cranidos w/o Def drops
After getting a def on first hit, Rock Smash is a 3HKO on Geodude and 4HKO on Onix. Cranidos outspeeds

Slowly beats 2. You're too weakened to take on Cranidos (Could sweep as Bibarel)
==Mars 1==
Bibarel L17 @ Pecha Berry
Water Gun 3HKOs Zubat and is close to 6HKOing Purugly.
CurlOut 1HKOs Zubat and it 3HKOs Purugly starting from 1st hit.

Needs Curlout to beat Purugly
==Gardenia==
Bibarel L20
Headbutt 2HKOs Turtwig(3HKOs total after Reflect) and 3HKOs Cherrim.
CurlOut 3HKOs Turtwig under Reflect. Turtwig almost 2HKOs back with Grass Knot
Cherrim outspeeds and finishes you off

Beats 1
==Jupiter==
Bibarel L21 @ Oran Berry
CurlOut 2HKOs Zubat and Skuntank. Bibarel survives 2 Night Slashes (without crit) after 2 Giga Drains from Zubat

Needs luck to sweep
==Fantina==
Bibarel L26
CurlOut 2HKOs Duskull and the 3rd hit has a roll to 1HKO Mismagius (The 4th hit 1HKOs even if you’re burned). Bibarel survives a Magical Leaf after a chip from Duskull, and Mismagius seems to used it more than Confuse Ray

Needs luck to beat 2.
==Rival(Hearthome)==
Bibarel L26
Water Gun 4HKOs Staravia and is close to 2HKOing Monferno. Staravia outspeeds and 4HKOs back, it also switches out for Roselia.
-2 CurlOut 2HKOs Staravia(3HKOs if 1st hit only) and the 3rd hit puts Roselia in red.

Avoiding Staravia…
Cut 2HKOs Buizel and Roselia(close to 2HKOing if it went for Mega Drain)
Headbutt 2HKOs Roselia, puts Buizel in red, and is close to 2HKOing Monferno. Monferno only 4HKOs back if you set-up Defense Curl. Buizel may went for Growl
CurlOut 2HKOs Buizel. Roselia and Monferno are 1HKOed by 3rd and 4th hit respectively

Beats 2 or 3
==Maylene==
Bibarel L31
Headbutt 2HKOs Meditite(3HKOs if it went for Drain Punch) and 3HKOs Machoke. Meditite KOs back with Rock Tomb into Drain Punch, Machoke 2HKOs back, all outspeeds at -2 Speed.
Return (Max BP) 1HKOs Meditite and 2HKOs Machoke.

Needs luck to beat 1
Can beat 2 with Max BP Return
==Rival(Pastoria)==
Bibarel L35
-2 Silk Scarf Return (Max BP) 2HKOs Staravia and Roselia and is super close to 2HKOing Monferno
Water Gun 2HKOs Monferno

Avoiding Staravia…
Silk Scarf Headbutt 1HKOs Buizel, 2HKOs Monferno, and is super close to 1HKOing Roselia. Monferno 3HKOs back
Silk Scarf Return (Max BP) puts Monferno in red.

Beats 3
==Wake==
Bibarel L35 @ Wide Lens
-2 Curlout 3HKOs Gyarados and the 4th hit is close to 1HKOing Floatzel. Floatzel still goes for Crunch even if you’re at low health, and Bibarel barely survives. Gyarados outspeeds, however you’re faster at L36
-2 Silk Scarf Return (Max BP) 4HKOs Gyarados
Silk Scarf Return (Max BP) 2HKOs Quagsire and Floatzel. Floatzel 3HKOs back

Beats 1 with Return.
Might beat 2 with CurlOut if you're using Hard Stone
==Cyrus 1==
Bibarel L37 @ Shell Bell
CurlOut 2HKOs Sneasel and 1HKOs the rest. Bibarel barely survives
Return 2HKOs Sneasel and Golbat.

Beats 2. Can sweep with CurlOut
==Rival (Canalave)==
Bibarel L37 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Surf 2HKOs Staraptor and is close to 1HKOing Infernape.
Return 2HKOs Floatzel. All outspeeds, Heracross 1HKOs back, Infernape almost 1HKOs back

Beats 2
==Byron==
Bibarel L40 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Surf 1HKOs Steelix and 2HKOs the rest. Magneton 1HKOs back

Beats 2
==Saturn 1==
Bibarel L40
Return 2HKOs Golbat and 3HKOs Toxicroak. Toxicroak 1HKOs back
Surf 3HKOs Bronzor

Beats 2
==Mars 2==
Bibarel L41 @ Silk Scarf
Surf 3HKOs Bronzor, the rest are 2HKoed by Silk Scarf Return. Purugly finishes you off if you take on the other 2

Beats 2
==Candice==
Bibarel L43 @ Choice Specs
Return 2HKOs Sneasel. Sneasel 3HKOs back
Choice Specs Surf 1HKOs Piloswine
CurlOut 2HKOs Sneasel and the 3rd hit 1HKOs Abomasnow. Froslass finishes you off afterward

Beats 2
==Cyrus 2==
Bibarel L44 @ Silk Scarf
Silk Scarf Return 2HKOs Sneasel and is super close to 2HKOing Golbat. Both outspeeds, Sneasel almost KOs back after a Screech, Golbat finishes you off if you take on Sneasel
CurlOut 2HKOs Sneasel and 1HKOs the rest

Beats 1. Needs luck to sweep with CurlOut
==Saturn 2==
Bibarel L44 @ Silk Scarf
Silk Scarf Return 2HKOs Golbat
Surf 3HKOs Bronzor

Beats 2
==Cyrus 3==
Bibarel L46
Return 2HKOs Houndoom and Honchkrow, 3HKOs Crobat. Houndoom and Honchkrow and 2HKOs, the former outspeeds, Crobat almost 2HKOs back
Surf 2HKOs Houndoom

Beats 1
==Volkner==
Bibarel L48 @ Silk Scarf
Silk Scarf Return is close to 1HKOing Raichu and 2HKOing Luxray. Luxray 2HKOs back, Raichu outspeeds and almost 1HKOs back with Focus Blast

Bleh

==Rival (League)==
Bibarel L50
Silk Scarf Return 3HKOs Snorlax, 2HKOs Floatzel, and is close to 1HKOing Roserade. Snorlax and Floatzel 2HKOs back, Roserade almost 1HKOs back, the rest 1HKOs back, all outspeeds bar Snorlax

Bad

==Aaron==
Bibarel L52 @ Silk Scarf
Silk Scarf Return is close to 2HKOing Yanmega and Vespiquen. Both 2HKOs back, Yanmega and Heracross outspeeds
Waterfall 3HKOs Scizor. Scizor 2HKOs back

Bad

At Level 53 @ Shell Bell
Set-up 1 Amnesia and 3 Curse, then 1HKO all with +6 Waterfall

Needs luck to sweep. You need to heal if you missed a lot, to not get KOed by Heracross
==Bertha==
Bibarel L52 @ Choice Specs
Return 2HKOs Whiscash
Waterfall 3HKOs Whiscash and Hippowdon, 2HKOs Rhyperior and is close to 1HKOing Golem
Choice Specs Surf 2HKOs Hippowdon, 1HKOs Golem and Rhyperior under Sand.

Beats 3 or 4 with Choice Specs Surf

At Level 53 @ Shell Bell
+4 Waterfall 1HKOs all bar Whiscash, who is super close to 1HKOing(Return does 1HKO)

Needs 1 heal to sweep
==Flint==
Bibarel L52
Silk Scarf Return 2HKOs Houndoom, Infernape and Rapidash. They all outspeed and 2HKO back(Rapidash 1HKOs back with Solarbeam)
Waterfall 2HKOs Flareon. Flareon almost 1HKOs back

Beats 1

At Level L53 @ Shell Bell
Set-up 2 Amnesia and 3 Curse, then 1HKO all with +6 Return (including Flareon after a burn)

Needs 1 heal to sweep
==Lucian==
Bibarel L52
Return 2HKOs Mr. Mime (3HKOs under Reflect). Mr. Mime outspeeds and almost 1HKOs back
Waterfall 4HKOs Bronzong

Bad

At Level 53
Set-up 2 Amnesia and 3 Curse, then 1HKO all bar Bronzong, who is close to 1HKOing. Gallade survives a hit under Reflect, so you need to KO Mr. Mime on the turn Reflect wear off.

Needs 2 heal and luck to sweep. You may need less healing if you dodged a Focus Blast from Alakazam
==Cynthia==
Bibarel L52
Waterfall 5HKOs Spiritomb

Bad

At Level 53 @ Shell Bell
At +6, You 1HKO everyone bar Garchomp (Spiritomb is a roll)
Needs around 3 healing to sweep

E Tier, with a chance of D Tier. This is ranked based on how it fared on battle, and the D Tier is moreso its ability to beat Mars and potentially, Jupiter and Fantina with CurlOut. It faces major 4 moveslot syndrome to the point you can’t used this more effectively on battle while doing HM duty at the same time. It needs CurlOut for bosses, Water Gun for Rocks, and Headbutt for stronger STAB. Curse + Amnesia is really fun in the Elite 4, though it needed a lot of healing to sweep, but my biggest problem here is that, outside of that fight, Simple without an X-Item is just borderline horrible aside from few fights where the crucial extra Defense boost from Defense Curl matter such as against Jupiter. Simple also makes Bidoof a bit annoying to grind in the early-game due to extreme vulnerability to Growl and Leer, which I swear is spammed a lot. Bibarel doesn’t even learn Swords Dance in this game.

As a HM Slave, it is mandatory to have, sure, but this game really forces you to have at least 2 HM Slaves per playthrough. Bidoof is, i believed, one of the 4 mons that learns both Rock Smash and Cut, the other 3 being literally the starters. The problem here is that you pretty much bench this mon after Jupiter unless you're grabbing Earthquake TM and maybe, Shock Wave TM, because you don't need HMs to progress through the story until Celestic, at which point, you won't be using that Bidoof and instead you should be catching your 2nd HM Slave instead, preferably the Bibarel from Hearthome. You can’t rely heavily on first route Bidoof alone as your HM Slave throughout the entire playthrough. Bidoof doesn’t even learn Surf until you evolved it and it doesn’t feel right that you have to grind your HM Slave levels despite how easy it should be by Celestic

Drifloon

Serious
HP: Dragon
“Likes to thrash about”
HP: 27-31
Atk: 31
Def: 20-25
SpA: 14-17
SpD: 12-18
Spe: 17-19
==Gardenia==
Drifloon L21 @ Cheri Berry / Oran Berry
Gust 2HKOs Turtwig, a total of 5HKO on Cherrim due to Potion(3HKOs if it went for Leech Seed), and is close to 4HKOing Roserade. Cherrim almost 5HKOs back, Roserade 4HKOs back, both outspeeds,

Beats 2
==Jupiter==
Drifloon L22
Gust 3HKOs Zubat. Zubat 3HKOs back
==Fantina==
Drifloon L26
Payback(unboosted) is close to 2HKOing Duskull
Payback(boosted) 1HKOs Haunter

Beats 1

As Drifblim L28
Boosted Payback is close to 1HKOing Mismagius. Drifblim lives a Shadow Ball, but you need Unburden + Oran Berry to beat it.
==Rival(Hearthome)==
Drifloon L26
Gust 3HKOs Staravia and is close to 2HKOing the rest. Staravia and Monferno outspeeds and 3HKOs back

Beats 2
==Maylene==
Drifblim L32 @ Oran Berry
Ominous Wind 1HKOs Meditite
Gust 2HKOs Machoke
Thunderbolt has a roll to 3HKO Lucario. Drifblim outspeeds via Unburden and survives 2 Metal Claws after a Rock Tomb through Oran

Beats 2. Needs Tbolt + Unburden to possibly sweep
==Rival(Pastoria)==
Drifblim L34 @ Oran Berry
Gust 2HKOs all bar Staravia, who is close to 2HKOing (Roselia is 3HKOed if it uses Leech Seed
Ominous Wind puts Buizel in red
Thunderbolt 1HKOs Staracia and Buizel.

Beats 3. Needs Thunderbolt or Unburden proc to possibly sweep
==Wake==
Drifblim L35 @ Oran Berry
Thunderbolt 1HKOs Gyarados and is close to 1HKOing Floatzel. Drifblim survives a Crunch
Ominous Wind 3HKOs Quagsire

Beats 2
==Cyrus 1==
Drifblim L37 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 1HKOs Golbat and Murkrow. Murkrow outspeeds and 2HKOs back

Beats 2
==Rival (Canalave)==
Drifblim L37 @ Oran Berry / Choice Specs
Thunderbolt is close to 1HKOing Staraptor and Floatzel
Choice Specs Shadow Ball 2HKOs Roserade (3HKOs if it uses Leech Seed). All outspeeds bar Roserade

Beats 3
==Byron==
Drifblim L40 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Shadow Ball 3HKOs Steelix and is close to 2HKOing Magneton. Steelix 3HKOs back

Beats 1
==Saturn 1==
Drifblim L40 @ Choice Specs / Oran Berry
Choice Specs Shadow Ball 2HKOs all. Toxicroak outspeeds and 2HKOs back
Shadow Ball is close to 2HKOing Bronzor
Psychic 1HKOs Toxicroak

Beats 2. Needs Psychic + Unburden proc to sweep
==Mars 2==
Drifblim L40 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 1HKOs Golbat and 2HKOs the rest. Purugly 3HKOs back, Golbat outspeeds (you’re faster at L41)

Needs luck to sweep, also being faster than Golbat
==Candice==
Drifblim L43 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 2HKOs Sneasel. Sneasel outspeeds and 2HKOs back
Choice Specs Shadow Ball 2HKOs Piloswine and is close to 2HKOing Abomasnow. Both 1HKOs back (Piloswine only 2HKOs back if it went for Stone Edge)

Needs luck to beat 1.
==Cyrus 2==
Drifblim L44 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Thunderbolt puts Crobat and Honchkrow in red. Crobat 3HKOs back, Honchkrow almost 1HKOs back

Beats 1
==Saturn 2==
Drifblim L44
Choice Specs 1HKOs Golbat and 2HKOs Bronzor. Toxicroak outspeeds and almost 2HKOs back

Psychic 2HKOs Golbat and 1HKOs Toxicroak
Shadow Ball is close to 2HKOing Bronzor

Beats 2. Needs Psychic + Unburden proc to sweep
==Cyrus 3==
Drifblim L45 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 1HKOs Gyarados and is close to 1HKOing Crobat and Honchkrow. Gyarados outspeeds and 2HKOs back, Crobat almost 3HKOs back

Needs 1 heal to beat 2 (or 3 if you can 1HKO Honchkrow)
==Volkner==
Drifblim L48 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Shadow Ball 2HKOs Raichu and Luxray. Raichu outspeeds and almost 2HKOs back (guaranteed after a boost)

Beats 1
==Rival (League)==
Drifblim L50 @ Choice Specs / Oran Berry
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 1HKOs Staraptor and Floatzel. Both outspeeds
Choice Specs Shadow Ball 2HKOs Heracross

Thunderbolt is close to 1HKOing Staraptor and Floatzel
Fly 1HKOs Heracross, Roserade and is super close to 1HKOing Infernape

Beats 2 with Choice Specs. Needs Unburden proc + Fly to beat 3 or 4
==Aaron==
Drifblim L52 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 1HKOs Yanmega, 2HKOs Vespiquen, 3HKOs Drapion, and is close to 2HKOing Scizor. Scizor 2HKOs back, Drapion outspeeds and almost 2HKOs back

Beats 2
==Bertha==
Drifblim L52 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Shadow Ball 2HKOs Whiscash, Gliscor, and Golem (3HKOs under Sandstorm. Gliscor outspeeds and almost 2HKOs back(guaranteed under Sandstorm), Golem 2HKOs back(almost 1HKOs back after a Whiscash Aqua Tail)

Beats 1 or 2
==Flint==
Drifblim L52 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Shadow Ball 3HKOs Flareon, 2HKOs Rapidash and Infernape. The latter 2 outspeeds and 2HKOs back(Drifblim doesn’t KO after a recoil), Rapidash 1HKOs back after a Sunny Day, but it dies to recoil after that.

Bleh
==Lucian==
Drifblim L52 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Shadow Ball is close to 1HKOing Mr. Mime and Espeon. Both outspeeds and 2HKOs back

Beats 1
==Cynthia==
Drifblim L52 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Shadow Ball is close to 2HKOing Spiritomb
Fly 1HKOs Roserade. All outspeeds bar Spiritomb

I tried Shadow Ball into Explosion against Garchomp, since Drifblim lives a Dragon Rush (you need Oran to proc Unburden in order to outspeed it on the next turn), but it didn't work because Cynthia immediately switches out her Garchomp for Togekiss after the first hit

Beats 1

D Tier. D Tier looks fine here, i supposed. Unburden is actually fun to use, but Drifblim has some issues into offense when it tries to do some Unburden strat. Man, this mon is really missing out a lot of OHKOs and 2HKOs without Choice Specs, It couldn't 2HKO Volkner's Luxray with Shadow Ball nor 1HKO Barry's Staraptor with Thunderbolt if you're not using Choice Specs.

Cleffa

Bashful
HP: Water
“Somewhat stubborn”
HP: 15
Atk: 0-3
Def: 16-20
SpA: 10-17
SpD: 29
Spe: 17-19
==Gardenia==
Cleffa L20
Return (60+ BP) 8HKOs Turtwig under Reflect. Turtwig outspeeds and 2HKos back

Bad
==Jupiter==
Cleffa L22
Return (60+ BP) 3HKOs Zubat. Zubat outspeeds and almost 2HKOs back

Bad
==Fantina==
Clefairy L25
Grass Knot is close to 6HKOing Duskull
Magical Leaf is close to 4HKOing Duskull

Bad

As Clefable
Grass Knot 5HKOs Duskull
Magical Leaf 8HKOs Mismagius and is close to 3HKOing Duskull

Not great
==Rival(Hearthome)==
Clefairy L25
-1 Secretpower is close to 4HKOing Staravia
-1 Return(90+BP) is close to 3HKOing Staravia
Secretpower 2HKOs Buizel and is close to 2HKOing Roselia.
Return (90+BP) 2HKOs Roselia. All outspeeds

Beats 2

As Clefable
-1 Secretpower has a roll to 3HKO Staravia
-1 Return (90+BP) is close to 2HKOing Staravia
Secretpower 2HKOs Buizel and Roselia
Return (90+BP) 1HKOs Buizel and puts Roselia in red

Beats 2 or 3 (Reliably 3 if using Secret Power)
==Maylene==
Clefairy L31
Return (Max BP) 2HKOs Meditite and 4HKOs Machoke. Machoke 2HKOs back, Meditite almost 1HKOs back without Fake Out chip

Bad

As Clefable
Secretpower 2HKOs Meditite (3HKOs due to Drain Punch)
Return (Max BP) 2HKOs Meditite and 3HKOs Machoke
Fire Blast 2HKOs all bar Machoke, who is close to 2HKOing. All outspeeds after a Rock Tomb and 2HKOs back (Machoke only 2HKOs you if Meditite went for Fake Out)

Beats 1
==Rival(Pastoria)==
Clefairy L34 @ Shell Bell
Shock Wave 2HKOs Staravia and puts Buizel in red
Thunderbolt 1HKOs Buizel and is close to 1HKOing Staravia
SecretPower 3HKOs Roselia
Fire Blast 2HKOs Roselia. All outspeeds, Staravia almost 3HKOs back, Monferno 2HKOs back

Beats 2

As Clefable
Shock Wave 2HKOs Staravia
Thunderbolt 1HKOs Staravia and is close to 2HKOing Monferno. Clefable survives a 2 Mach Punch into a Blaze-boosted Flame Wheel.
Fire Blast 1HKOs Roselia

Beats 3. Can sweep with Thunderbolt, but you need Shell Bell to not get picked off by Buizel
==Wake==
Clefairy L35 @ Chesto Berry
Thunderbolt 2HKOs Gyarados. Gyarados outspeeds and 2HKOs back
Secret Power 6HKOs Quagsire. Quagsire outspeeds after a Rock Tomb and 5HKOs back
Return (Max BP) is super close to 4HKOing Quagsire
Magical Leaf 2HKOs Quagsire

Needs Magical Leaf/Grass Knot to reliably beat 1

As Clefable
Thunderbolt 2HKOs Floatzel and has a roll to 1HKO Gyarados. Both outspeeds, Gyarados 3HKOs back, Floatzel 4HKOs back
Silk Scarf Secret Power 4HKOs Quagsire
Return (Max BP) 3HKOs Quagsire
Grass Knot 1HKOs Quagsire

Beats 2. Could possibly sweep with Thunderbolt + Grass Knot
==Cyrus 1==
Clefairy L37 @ Silk Scarf / Choice Specs
Return (Max BP) 3HKOs Sneasel. Sneasel 2HKOs back
Choice Specs Fire Blast has a roll to 1HKO Sneasel and is close to 2HKOing Golbat
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 2HKOs Golbat and 1HKOs Murkrow.

Beats 1

As Clefable
Silk Scarf Return 2HKOs Sneasel and is close to 2HKOing Golbat
Fire Blast is close to 1HKOing Sneasel
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 2HKOs Sneasel, 1HKOs Murkrow and puts Golbat in red. All outspeeds

Beats 2
==Rival (Canalave)==
Clefable L37
Thunderbolt is close to 1HKOing Staraptor
Fire Blast 2HKO Heracross and Roserade
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 1HKOs Staraptor and Floatzel
Choice Specs Fire Blast 1HKOs Roserade. All outspeeds

Beats 2 or 3
==Byron==
Clefable L40 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Flamethrower 1HKOs all bar Bastiodon, who is super close to 4HKOing. Bastiodon 3HKOs back with Metal Burst

Beats 2. May need healing to possibly sweep
==Saturn 1==
Clefable L41
Silk Scarf Return 2HKOs Golbat
Psychic 2HKOs Golbat and 1HKOs Toxicroak
Flamethrower 2HKOs Bronzor.

Beats 2. Needs Psychic to sweep
==Mars 2==
Clefable L41 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 1HKOs Golbat, 2HKOs Bronzor, 3HKOs Purugly. Purugly finishes you off.

Beats 2
==Candice==
Clefable L43 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Flamethrower 1HKOs all bar Froslass, who was put in red

Beats 3
==Cyrus 2==
Clefable L44
Flamethrower 2HKOs Sneasel, the rest are close to getting 2HKOed by Thunderbolt. All outspeeds, Honchkrow 2HKOs back, Sneasel 3HKOs back

Beats 1
==Saturn 2==
Clefable L44
Psychic 2HKOs Golbat and 1HKOs Toxicroak. Toxicroak outspeeds and finishes you off if you take on Golbat
Flamethrower 2HKOs Bronzor

Beats 2
==Cyrus 3==
Clefable L46 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 1HKOs Gyarados and puts Crobat and Honchkrow in red. All outspeeds, Weavile 3HKOs back, Crobat 4HKOs back, the rest 2HKOs back

Needs 1 heal to beat 2
==Volkner==
Clefable L48
Silk Scarf Return 2HKOs Jolteon, 3HKOs Luxray and Electivire. All outspeeds, Jolteon and Luxray 4HKOs back, Electivire almost 2HKOs back
Choice Specs Flamethrower 3HKOs Jolteon and Luxray

Beats 1. Needs 1 heal to beat 2
==Rival (League)==
Clefable L50 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 1HKOs Staraptor and Floatzel
Choice Specs Flamethrower puts Roserade in red. All outspeeds bar Snorlax, Staraptor puts you in red

Beats 2, you need off-screen heal to beat 3
==Aaron==
Clefable L52 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Flamethrower 1HKOs Yanmega and Scizor, 2HKOs Heracross, and is super close to 2HKOing Vespiquen after a Defend Order

Beats 2 (Could beat 3 if you can 2HKO Vespiquen
==Bertha==
Clefable L52 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Grass Knot 1HKOs Golem and Rhyperior under Sandstorm, 2HKOs Whiscash, and puts Hippowdon in red. Gliscor comes in next after Whiscash

Beat 2
==Flint==
Clefable L52
Silk Scarf Return 2HKOs Houndoom. All outspeeds, Houndoom 3HKOs back, Flareon KOs back with Overheat into Giga Impact

Bleh
==Lucian==
Clefable L52 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Shadow Ball 2HKOs Mr. Mime(4HKOs under Light Screen) and Espeon. Both outspeeds, Mr. Mime 3HKOs back, Espeon almost 2HKOs back
Choice Specs Flamethrower is super close to 2HKOing Bronzong

Meh
==Cynthia==
Clefable L52 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Flamethrower 4HKOs Spiritomb, 2HKOs Roserade. Roserade outspeeds and 2HKOs, Spiritomb 3HKOs back
Choice Specs Grass Knot 3HKOs Milotic. Milotic can 2HKO back
Choice Specs Ice Beam puts Garchomp in red.

E Tier. Just catch a Clefairy instead, I recall Cleffa failing to escape a wild Shellos bc its so slow, even with level advantage, and even with 140 Base Friendship at the start, it still barely reaching 2 small heart(200 Friendship) by Hearthome. You also need to Thief hunt for Moon Stone, which is only 5% on wild Clefairy asap, bc Clefairy really sucks when unevolved and the guaranteed Moon Stone is locked behind Surf. As a Clefable, all it does is pretty much a coverage-bot, which isn't that great if you asked me, especially with how slow Clefable is.

Ralts(Gardevoir)

Serious
HP: Poison
“Likes to relax”
HP: 29
Atk: 24
Def: 14
SpA: 0-4
SpD: 5-8
Spe: 26-29
==Fantina==
Kirlia L25
Confusion 4HKOs Duskull and 2HKOs Haunter. Duskull almost 2HKOs back, Haunter outspeeds and almost 1HKOs back

Bad
==Rival(Hearthome)==
Kirlia L25
Confusion 3HKOs Staravia and 2HKOs Roselia.
Magical Leaf puts Buizel in red. All outspeeds, Staravia 3HKOs back with -1 Wing Attack, Buizel almost 2HKOs back, Monferno 2HKOs back

Beats 1
==Maylene==
Gardevoir L31 @ Mind Plate
Mind Plate Psychic 2HKOs Lucario and 1HKOs the rest. Gardevoir survives 2 Metal Claws after a Fake Out

+1 Mind Plate Psychic is close to 1HKOing Lucario

Can sweep
==Rival(Pastoria)==
Gardevoir L34 @ Mind Plate
Mind Plate Psychic 1HKOs all

Clean sweep
==Wake==
Gardevoir L35
Set-up Reflect
MP Psychic 2HKOs Gyarados and puts Floatzel in red
+1 MP Psychic 1HKOs all bar Gyarados, who was put in red. Gardevoir barely survives a Crunch after 3 Bites

Can possibly sweep with Thunderbolt
==Cyrus 1==
Gardevoir L36
Focus Blast 1HKOs Sneasel and 2HKOs Murkrow. Both outspeeds and 2HKOs back
Psychic 1HKOs Golbat

Can Beat 2
==Rival(Canalave)==
Gardevoir L37 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Psychic 1HKOs all. All outspeeds bar Roserade, Infernape finishes you off, Heracross will finished you off if Raptor went for Take Down

Beats 3 or 4
==Byron==
Gardevoir L39 @ Wide Lens
Focus Blast 1HKOs all without Choice Specs. Good luck hitting
+5 Psychic 2HKOs Bastiodon. Couldn't sweep with CM due to Metal Sound

Needs luck to sweep, even with Wide Lens
==Saturn 1==
Gardevoir L40
Focus Blast 2HKOs Bronzor and the rest are 1HKOed by Psychic

Can sweep
==Mars 2==
Gardevoir L41
+1 Focus Blast is close to 1HKOing Bronzor, the rest are 1HKOed by +1 Psychic

Can sweep
==Candice==
Gardevoir L42
Choice Specs Focus Blast 1HKOs all bar Froslass.

Needs luck to beat 3
==Cyrus 2==
Gardevoir L44
Focus Blast 1HKOs Sneasel and 3HKOs Honchkrow
Mind Plate Psychic 1HKOs Crobat
Beats 2
==Saturn 2==
Gardevoir L44 @ Fist Plate
Fist Plate Focus Blast 2HKOs Bronzor, the rest are 1HKOed by Psychic

Can sweep
==Cyrus 3==
Gardevoir L45 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Psychic 1HKOs Crobat
Choice Specs Thunderbolt 1HKOs Gyarados and Honchkrow. Honchkrow comes in next after Gyarados, followed by Weavile, Crobat is sent out last

Beats 1. Needs Thunderbolt to beat 3
==Volkner==
Gardevoir L48 @ Mind Plate
+2 Mind Plate Psychic 1HKOs all. All outspeeds bar Luxray, Electivire finishes you off with Giga Impact without Defense drop, it may go for Thunderpunch/Fire Punch if you got a single defense drop

Beats 3, you need luck and 1 heal to sweep
==Rival(League)==
Gardevoir L50 @ Choice Specs
Specs Psychic 1HKOs Floatzel, Rade, Nape, and Hera. Nape finishes you off if you take on Zel, Raptor outspeeds and spams U-Turn, and it comes in next after a kill

Beats 3
==Aaron==
Gardevoir L52 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Psychic 2HKOs Vespiquen, 1HKOs Yanmega and Heracross. Gardevoir survives a Attack Order from Vespiquen

Beats 3
==Bertha==
Gardevoir L52 @ Choice Specs / Shell Bell
Choice Specs Grass Knot 1HKOs Hippowdon, Golem, and Rhyperior, and is close to 1HKOing Whiscash
+3 Psychic 1HKOs all bar the rocks due to Sandstorm(either you need Focus Miss or set-up a 4th CM to beat both). Hippowdon comes in next after Whiscash, Gliscor outspeeds. Gardevoir survives 2 Aqua Tail, but is 2HKOed if Whiscash went for Sandstorm T1

Beats 4 with GK
Needs 1 or 2 heal and luck to sweep with CM
==Flint==
Gardevoir L52
+2 Psychic 2HKOs Flareon and Magmortar, 1HKOs Infernape, and is super close to 1HKOing Rapidash. Flareon spams Wisp
+3 Psychic 1HKOs Rapidash and Flareon.

Beats up to 4 if you set-up on Flareon.
==Lucian==
Gardevoir L52 @ Spell Tag
+6 ST Shadow Ball 1HKOs all. Gallade outspeeds and may finished you off

Beats 3, you need luck around a Stone Edge miss to sweep
==Cynthia==
Gardevoir L52 @ Pecha Berry
+1 Psychic is super close to 1HKOing Rade. Rade almost 2HKOs back after a CM
+6 Psychic 1HKOs Milotic and Lucario. Milotic may went for Mirror Coat as you CM. Lucario comes in next and may finished you off, Chomp 1HKOs back, All outspeeds bar Tomb.

Only Beats Roserade. Needs 2 heal + 1 offscreen heal to beat 3. You may need less healing depending on Mirror Coat usage from Milotic

C/B Tier. I'm split between C and B on this one. Ralts and Kirlia are just really bad until L31 (yes, it evolves at 30, but you need to delay its evolution for one level to learn Psychic). As Gardevoir, its alright and it performs almost the same thing what I think Alazakam could do, except for one thing, and that speed stat. 80 Speed stat felt so middling in this game, getting outsped by a fair chunk of opponents, and it can disrupt Gardevoir from trying to Calm Mind its way.

Azelf

Serious
HP: Ghost
“Somewhat of a clown”
HP: 4-5
Atk: 20-21
Def: 10-11
SpA: 16-17
SpD: 22-23
Spe: 23
==Volkner==
Azelf L50 @ Cheri Berry
+2 Psychic 1HKOs all. Clean sweep
==Rival(League)==
Azelf L50 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Psychic 1HKOs all bar Snorlax, who is close to 2HKOing. Azelf lives a Crunch from Snorlax

Beats 5. Can sweep if you can 2HKO Snorlax
==Aaron==
Azelf L52 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Flamethrower 1HKOs all the bugs bar Vespiquen, who is close to 1HKOing, and it is close to 2HKOing Drapion. Azelf barely survives a Attack Order from Vespiquen

Beats 4. Could sweep if you can 1HKO Vespiquen and 2HKO Drapion
==Bertha==
Azelf L52 @ Shell Bell
+4 Psychic 1HKOs all

Can sweep
==Flint==
Azelf L52
+2 Psychic 1HKOs Rapidash and Infernape, 2HKOs Magmortar, and puts Flareon in red. Houndoom 1HKOs back, the rest puts you in red (guaranteed if sun is up), Flareon picks you off with Quick Attack and Infernape outspeeds

Beats 1 (or 2 If Rapidash went for Solarbeam T1)
==Lucian==
Azelf L52
Without Light Screen, +2 Flamethrower 1HKOs Bronzong, the rest are 1HKOed by +2 Shadow Ball bar Gallade. Espeon outspeeds and finishes you off if Mr. Mime attacks you( it comes in next after Mr. Mime). Alakazam outspeeds and almost 2HKOs back

Needs luck and 1 heal to beat 4
==Cynthia==
Azelf L52 @ Choice Specs
Choice Specs Psychic 1HKOs Roserade
Choice Specs Flamethrower is close to 1HKOing Lucario

Beats 1

B Tier. This one is weird moreso that comes very late and requires almost no grinding, Azelf isn't exactly bad, taking out a lot of mon in the late-game, except Flint and Cynthia( and maybe Lucian), but there was something that made me feel that it wasn't A Tier, and I couldn't exactly pinpoint what it is, but i'm fine with Azelf being in A Tier.