acidphoenix - little to say about him tbh his first post in this game is #198 because he "doesn't check the game thread" ??? lol? what?
#205/#213 just seem like meta bs tbh he's stalling contributing anything to the game except delayed "who should claim lolz" talk
#369 is his next his post despite certainly being called out before then TO post. now that he has several votes on him, he votes Sam for voting him. he had mild suspicions on sam in #198 but like, seems more like a self-preservation vote on the guy with the most votes besides himself. which to be fair is exactly what sam's vote onto ap could be construed as as well. ap once again also tries to do what lw did and blame sam for stuff i initially brought up about lw. hello where is my credit?!*
#384 acid replies to all the things people have asked him, 2 days after the fact. if he knew people were suspecting him of being idler scum like he tells lw to explain why he didn't defend himself, why didn't he STOP being idler scum? he "didn't read the thread?" what a piss poor excuse. i don't buy it. he knows he's being suspected of it and doesn't feel the need to defend against it.. yet he didn't read the thread? these two concepts are at odds.
#395 reads like "these people are willing to vote me so they are scum" as a reads list especially with all the nulls in there. it seems intentionally evasive of labeling anyone town/clean so when he flips scum we have a difficult time telling anything useful off what he said.
idk acidphoenix if you are actually town then sorry but i just am not buying it from your posts right now. nor your "didn't read thread lolz" excuse. maybe you are the potential third sub the hosts wanted, i don't know.
on the other hand, in his defense, wouldn't his mafia team be yelling at him to wake tf up and read the thread/defend himself? i feel like he should have started tossing out bs defenses earlier in the day rather than so late in it but maybe they felt like nobody was taking my request to lynch him seriously enough to warrant acid getting jumpy and involved. hard 2 say.
scumread
Asek - does this guy really only have 3 posts in the thread? hold tf up let's not let him coast by with so little here.
#91 he says 1 of lw/us is mafia and votes jalmont as "the most likely lynch atm" which rightfully gets him called out by several people
#177 he makes a much longer post that, just like acidphoenix's early contributions, is late af responses to meta bs discussions and claims. seems like a stallpost. but he does respond to all points of criticism raised against him for each of his points in the first post without coming off as jumpy/defensive scum.
#317 he says his most suspicious users are sam and internet - no mention of lightwolf, his previous "mite b mafia" read in the post. what happened to your view on lw,
Asek ? where do you stand on him now?
I want to apply some more pressure to this guy tomorrow, I see no reason to allow him to skimp by with 3 posts 1 of which is a shady bandwagon again. I think he does have some good points/posts TO make but we need to force that out of him.
nullread, too early in the game + too few posts = can't ascertain yet
billymills - i don't disagree with a lot of his points he's made but i also don't entirely agree with them either or how he's been playing
#335 and #392 it's like I REALLY DON'T DISAGREE but i also don't feel like i came to the same conclusion sam MUST be scum because of his divergence in play that billy did. however, the idea that if haruno and or internet are mafia, they 100% don't bandwagon sam (who could still be 1 of 3 neuts) is solid enough reason to back off sam for today. and yet, billy does what lw/ap did and attributes the 'lw is signalling android!!' claim solely to sam with no mention of me. maybe it should rightfully be suspicious that sam seemed to jump on my mention and run with it so much, but still.*
#247 i absolutely do not like from billy. sam has the most votes and seems suspicious so SeemsGood as a lynch? no. i don't buy that. it's way too complacent for a town billy. maybe not a burnt out billy from metagame. but i don't like the mindset behind it.
#234 doesn't think asek is mafia, null jalmont, lean mafia BT. i'd like to see billy flesh out his reads and conclusions a lot more on D2 so we can see where he's coming from. a lot of his posts make enough sense but are too curt, so the player behind them could be town or scum-minded.
i am not super pleased with how billy has played this game though i do think he has made some good points. i think d2 will be more revealing about him once town gets some more info from the night and such.
nullread atm, suspicious actions and such but absolutely nothing i'm willing to lynch on. i think he needs the n1 to cool off about metagame and let's see where his posts and contributions go from there.
Blazade - this guy is doing everything "right" but he also tried to do that in metagame to mole so i don't find him as town as anyone else does. in fact, i don't find him town at all!
#320 so cautious about the vig, much town, very clean, so read.
#348 he's posting things about people but none of them are super specific or super fleshed out. he votes acid here but almost sounds like he has a problem with the lynch as not based on scumhunting (gee wonder why?) and almost seems dismayed nobody could ever get actual evidence onto sam. i think blazade makes this vote if he's acid's teammate and sees a sinking ship right in front of him and realizes i am going to delay sam's lynch and others are going to back off this as well. i also don't like how he says jalmont is worth keeping around "for the connections" ?? what? also putting me as a remote possibility for a d1 lynch is just resigning u are mafia tbh.
#355 his justification for scumreading me is the same D1 play i make every game that is the only reason anyone ever could scumread me outside of teammate buddying/savioring. shocked nobody has accused me of that with sam this game but i guess sam can't do it since it was one of the few things keeping him alive LOL. internet has strikes against him so he's a desirable lynch? what strikes in your opinion does internet have
Blazade ?
#357 he claims he was going to be the first to vote acid and disliked him yesterday... this is totally 1 teammate bussing the other lol blazade was ripe and ready to hop on board the acid bw when he finally got called out for his scummy idling. now he says it was his plan all along and gets to look clean when acid flips mafia.
bored of reading his posts now so i'll just summarize that i think blazade is a competent player and would totally be willing to sacc acidphoenix to make himself look all the cleaner for it, especially with how many people HAVE townread him already. if he can solidify himself in a good's usual place as universal townread he is golden for a long time.
mafia
Blue_Tornado - i know hes posted i can just never think of WHAT hes posted which makes me suspicious in and of itself that he might be noncontenting. let's check his posts and see:
#108 hops on asek for his scumpost (meaning i don't think they would be teammates) and takes sam's stupid trollvote on me seriously. too eager for people to accuse imo
#148 doesnt particularly like sam or i, sticks on asek, claim meta bs
#289 (140 posts later he has something of substance again) pressure votes the inactive SteelEdges and is against android talk
#293 i don't like that he says he would consider jalmont for an inactivity lynch with SE as the other person he lists for that. macle/internet/TIK/asek/acidphoenix all had to have fewer posts than jalmont at that point in the game yet jalmont is the one he cites FOR an inactivity lynch? don't buy it, sounds like a crappy reason to get rid of jalmont especially since jalmont was voting him or had voted him. he's right that sam has been erratic and too often used "just trolling!" when tossing out and retracting votes. however why tf does he ignore acidphoenix? this makes me think BT could be teammates with any of the other malignant idlers but NOT with asek/jalmont/SE otherwise he wouldn't have tried to divert attention onto these users.
i feel like this guy hasn't made any SUBSTANTIAL contributions. he has definitely replied TO people and talked about things but there's nothing that really pinpoints HOW he feels about anyone or strongly swings one way or another. he seems guarded in his opinions because he doesn't particularly want to reveal a teammate of his and knows he's gotten scrutiny. nothing really links him to other people except he's got small beef with jalmont.
moderate scumread
Da Letter El - contentless posts once again under the guise of irl.
mafia
Flyhn - already made more posts on this D1 than he has in the entire F&I, feels like he is actually trying this time. he did make that proposition of vegeta/buu both claiming PR which shows he's thinking about the game.
#175 votes sam for his erratic play
#192 replies to sam about why he feels his play is inconsistent vs F&I
#281 votes billy instead of sam for ALSO acting out of character
Flyhn i want to see a post from you today with some thoughts about this lynch and the game in general/people in it.
flyhn has to be prompted to further expand his reads on people and get to the 'why' behind them but he does seem to have them, and they do seem to be on point. if not emulating what i am saying about said people. i want to see more out of him but he feels town to me. however i could see him being mafia and playing like this because he actually has some info and teammates to guide him in a NOC, thus not feeling like he's going to damage the village if he gives a bad read on someone or wrongfully accuses them of being scum. ie either side of billy/sam/lw being lynched as mafia works for him if he knows none of them are allied with him.
mild townread
Haruno - he makes posts but i fear they will fall under the type of posts BT and DLE make that are ultimately contentless/fluff, jalmont already did an ISO for him and i think the conclusion is right.
Haruno please post some conclusive reads/opinions on people or relationships between people in the game. namely: internet, unclesam-billy-lightwolf-yeti, acidphoenix, blue tornado, jalmont.
mild scumread
internet - this is his first NOC right? part of me feels like he MAY just be adjusting to the environment in how he's posting but this doesn't make him town, either. could be newbscum and not newbtown.
#126 wants to move on to who the good players read as what.. feels like a way for him and his 'not goods' teammates to fly under the radar or parrot what other people say.
#147 more on lw vs sam, again could be an easy way to fly under the radar by saying "well they could be different teams but they could just always argue too" but it does show analysis about 2 players
#185 votes sam as his 'mandatory vote' and seems convinced he's suspicious enough to vote since he HAS TO. also calls out for an acidphoenix opinion.
#188 townread on flyhn
aaaaaaaand he hasn't posted since. no bueno.
internet what is your opinion on the acidphoenix lynch, any new reads to give, do you think 'goods' playing out of their normal habits necessarily must be bad?
noobread, he's figuring out what he's supposed to be doing regardless of what team he is and i think he may fall under the Haunted Diamond category of "can't tell on D1" thus i think he's a bad lynch for today in all circumstances. D2, however... internet consider this pressure on you to post more and in greater detail.
Jalmont - i need to start from the bottom up cause im getting bored af again and also hungry but my soup isn't ready so i don't wanna keep doing this lmao
#393 suspicion onto acid for his post and scum accusations onto BT
#390 haruno ISO, the fact he even bothers to do one seems p town lol**
#377 doesnt like the sam lynch as much as he does like an acid lynch but also seems a tad defensive about being called lurking scum. strong townread on billy
#368 this post feels defensive to me about accusations against jalmont and idk if i feel like it reads town to me
#352 earlier stages of retorts to LW's accusations and such idk this spat is carrying on a tad here lol
#330 doesnt like setup talk to help scumhunt - my only question is why not force some discussion NOT about the setup instead of waiting for someone else to?
he has earlier posts but zzz lmao. i feel like he's not always doing as much as he COULD be doing to scumhunt, flesh out idlers/suspicious players, etc. but he is doing a lot more than other people in the game.
mild townread but wouldn't surprise me either way
King_ - i know hes posted but it all seems oriented around sam, let's see if he's said anything new lel
#63 still want to hl this one where he votes TIK for voting sam in a solid buddying move
#250 doesn't think sam is clean but agrees with his meta claim stuff so he voted TIK. ho hummm.
#265 "Honestly, I'm not good at reading people I haven't played with. I usually just read on how they've played before." aka don't expect me to do anything, i'm new and have no experience! b. s. garbage post, garbage mentality.
#300 calls out BT for not posting anything of value himself despite expecting it of others
#301 then votes BT for it
#379 some explanation of sam buddying and BT suspicion
#391 declares the lynch seems to be between internet and acidphoenix and votes internet... why not between sam and acidphoenix? or anyone else who had more than one vote? i don't like when people make false dichotomies like this.
King_ please flesh out your suspicions on: internet, acidphoenix and blue_tornado further. additionally, who do you think is the MOST clean?
noobread, he's also a new player trying to flesh out our NOC meta but i feel like his thoughts aren't elaborated/fleshed out yet he's also voting enough suspicious people it seems difficult to believe he COULD be on a mafia team with others' most likely suspects
LightWolf - do i have to
i got a few hours ill come back to this one rofl
macle - i don't think we're ever going to get wallposts out of him but he does seem to be trying to contribute some unique thoughts to the game and not just parrot other people.
#218 sides with lw over sam on the lw v us meta debate
#284 doesn't see sam as mafia, votes TIK
#363 "I see the rational behind lynching acid / internet / jalmont / US." after saying he doesn't see sam as mafia he sees the rational behind lynching him? i suppose this could mean he can see why someone who does scumread sam would want to lynch him, but i find it rather opportunistic to be agreeable to "anyone with votes on them" at this stage in the game.
macle what do you consider the rational behind lynching either Sam or jalmont to be? do you have any strong reads about other players in the game?
mild townread but could flop to mild scumread depending, he does appear to fall under "okay with any lynch who's not allied with him" but he could also just not have strong enough feelings about anything on D1
Mithril - i know hes made a few posts but none particularly stick out so let me reread
#324 thinks vig should idle so they dont suicide on townhit
#321 doesn't like billy's delay in posting, against a 'goods' lynch, prefers haruno/internet -
Mithril why aren't acidphoenix, macle and SteelEdges (now n) also on your list of preferred/possible lynch targets? how do you feel about these players
#249 votes internet, doesn't like iDLE, townread yeti, weirdread billy, sameoldsameoldread lw+sam, in favor of vegeta claim
#72 vegeta claim merits
#65 doesnt want buu claim
he has a lot fewer posts than i thought and not a ton of content in them except 249. would like to see a lot more out of mithril before i can swing one way or another on him.
nullread need more content
rssp1 - now i know this guy got posts
#371 wants explanations from acid on reads
#359 votes acid, townier vibes on LW/billy
#327 lengthy post with reads on all and thoughts per page
i know hes been saying a lot and been engaging with people/trying to figure things out however i do need to review his content more. he has a lot of relations to people and agreements forged though.
townread
Walrein /SteelEdges - will do the sub later especially since SE had nothing to go on
Thetwinmasters /THE_IRON_...KENYAN? - again will do the sub later
UncleSam - ill come back to this too once i eat lol
Yeti - obviously 100% town
*i find it annoying and suspicious that people are willing to accuse/call sam scum for ideas i brought up he parroted/expanded off me yet either completely ignore the fact
i brought the idea up or not give me a scumread for it as well. like seriously why are people trying to force this narrative that they don't like sam for X contribution, when i said it first? it really reads like people want to get rid of sam asap and feel like they need me to do it, or don't want to engage me yet [until sam is gone]. thus they ignore me saying X and only go after sam for also saying X. yeah well you cucks i'm not lynching sam off that smfh. i don't know i just feel like TOO MANY people want sam lynched off but won't toss the same shade my way.
**the haruno ISO also seems to show the same conclusions that can be made about king_ in that their interactions with people feel very oriented around UncleSam. which is like, sort of reasonable because he does tend to become the center of attention and stuff but why do these two newbies orient around him SO much?
