NOC Electoral Mafia - Game thread

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AngryPidgeon said:
Idk what investigative roles you think are going to solve the game but its extremely improbable that there is a cop that can just act every night with impunity. That would be insane game design. If there are tracker like roles and mafia isnt killing then they wont do too much anyhow.
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You think so? I think its extremely probable that there's at least a role that can help figure if someone is town or not
 
phoopes said:
As said before, not a fan of people advocating for a no vote. This vote is a direct response for Peum no voting, which I do not care for at all.
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Also what percentage has it been that Mafia advocated for no vote that this is a viable choice for you without having looked at his posts, considering Peum probs has the most in the game at this point. I feel like you could glean some other reason to vote him, otherwise your vote just feels lazy cause it's what you "always do". There's no better option for you?
 
Peum said:
You think so? I think its extremely probable that there's at least a role that can help figure if someone is town or not
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Maybe but if there is a role that gets relatively hard results, theres no way the game could just be solved by no voting and allowing them to keep acting. Mafia would have to have some way to counter play it.

I just dont see anything special enough about thia setup to think that no voting is a great idea. If the NK is limited, itd be crazy to put something like a cop in the game which is then unkillable in a case where we no vote ad nauseum?
 
Peum said:
d1 scumreaads (last time I did this I hit no one lol)

from most scum to least scum
ShyPebble
Tsuki
Carrotman
Realiti
AirC
Dead By Daylight
Miyami
Jalmont
Phoopes
Larry
AngryPidgeon
A Fairy
Pulsar

Anyways, as my statement done before, a No Vote helps us narrow us down mafia killcons while helping invests have free turns to investigate, if im allowed to speculate. I think the mafia killcon that makes most sense is you can kill someone who was on the wagon of a townie who was voted out, or something similar to that, as I imagine the game has been made with someone being voted out D1 on mind, this helps towns to have a chance for a comeback once they vote out a mafia, but we simply cant afford voting out a Townie who might be an important role, investigative even D1. We have the same chances of voting out an important role and losing that infostream than voting out a mafia. This is specially dangerous in close setups, and even more with the low amount of chances we get to make votes.

##Unvote
##No Vote
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I see your point but I feel like there are a lot of conditionals here that aren't actually realistic
1) your mafia killcon is way too specific, there must be some pity kill mechanic if scum or nobody is voted out. making an argument to not vote because "mafia might not be able to NK" makes no sense
2) PPL can claim if they have an important role and voting out an important role is a risk that occurs every single day. there's always a chance of voting out a townie
3) the low amount of chances we get to make votes is an argument to vote instead of to not vote because we need get 4 votes correct instead of 3

the best argument here is giving invests a free turn to investigate which I agree with

personally, i think that valuable info is gained not only through night actions, but also by daytime behavior, especially around who is getting voted. therefore, after weighing the pros and cons, I have decided that i would like to vote
 
I feel I may be tunneled on Phoopes so I apologize if I come off harsh. But No Voting on D1 doesn't seem like an inherently bad thing to do as long as there's reasoning behind it. Do I agree with Peum's reasoning to No Vote, not particularly, do I understand why he wants to, yes.

What I find inherently bad is to policy vote when there's a plethora of content from a person that could sway opinions in either direction.
 
I understand the reasoning behind a vote, I will not call voting d1 suboptimal, and by how everyone is being active seemingly d1, voting on vibes might actually be a good idea, I am a stubborn person though, so I will stay with my No Vote, but I will not try to force a tie to make the outcome be a No Vote, if anyone agrees with my opinion feel free to No Vote with me.
 
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