Only the if the player using Explosion does so with their own last Pokemon. If you've got more than one Pokemon left, you can Explode to take out your opponent's last Pokemon for a legitimate win.Isn't it a rule that if explosion ends the match, the person who used it loses?
I think recoil damage (such as Life Orb) too is affected by this issue, right?
I think the problem isn't so much the order of damage, but that Shoddy is calling the victory the moment one player loses their last Pokemon, rather than calling it at the end of the turn, or after all effects of the move have taken place.When someone uses explosion, the opposite pokemon of the team takes damage first. Thus, when your dragonite hit 0, shoddybattle said that you lost. He had damage coming, but shoddybattle called it before it came to him. Pretty much, you take damage first. You died first. You lost. :/
Sadly, every pokemon game has had the rule to where whoever used explosion/selfdestruct to end the game loses. It's fine I guess, don't know why it isn't allowed competetively....The only reason I can see is people not wanting to allow a draw. I personally think self-KO clause should be removed. Many games have drawing strategies and tactics (chess and soccer spring to mind(, and they enrich the game I feel.