Well its bolt-beam may have been nerfed slightly but yeah it is not as if that many things were capable of walling it. Especially if it received a +1 SpA boost, which it does with frequency, people aren't as prepared for it as well in tweaking their EVs in addition to the bias towards defending against physical attacks this gen only makes receiving much easier.Genesect is still stupidly good. I've been running the sash lead set from Gen V, and it's been doing wonders (All of its sets are really good, I got faced someone who used a monster CB set). This shouldn't even be a surprise, it literally only got better from the transition from gen BW ---> XY.
Unquestionably in the top 3 best Pokemon in the game, period.
Do we know if Aeroblast has changed at all? Rev up that Scope Lens Aeroblast Tornadus-T, there are crits that need hitting...50% of the time.Tornadus(-T) apparently gets Aeroblast in X and Y (a Tornadus in Pokemon Maison used it), so Tornadus-T is perfectly viable as an offensive Pokemon outside of rain.
I have to build teams around deo now. YOu can taunt anyone foolish enough to try and defog on deo, but the rest of the team has to be able to defeat common defoggers. Kyube beats the hell out of mandibuzz, though careful double switching is required, taunt stacking in general helps, but latios/latias is the biggest problem to deo-s hazard stacking. Sure, you can build a team that cleanly OHKOs lati if it gets to attack, but at 110 base speed, it can defog in a pinch without thinking.Deoxys-S is the one I'm not so enthused with. Defog really makes all the difference. Even if I set my hazards up flawlessly, the other guy just needs to wait for a chance to get his Skarmory or Scizor in to just blow them all away again. It's annoying.
Out of curiosity, why the hell are you running HP Ice IVs?(Manaphy) @ Leftovers
Ability: Hydration
EVs: 72 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 180 Spd
Timid Nature
IVs: 30 Atk / 30 Def
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Energy Ball
- Tail Glow
This seems to be a good spread for Manaphy.
Max Special Attack for the for the most offensive potential. The nature and speed EVs are to outrun Jolly base 90s, so you can hit Mega Lucario if it attempts to use you as set-up bait, and 4 SDef Evs so Genesect doesn't get pseudo-STAB on the Thunderbolt. The rest go into HP.
Oh yeah, just like how I figured out that KLINKLANG got Focus Blast through the Battle Factory. It could be true, it could not. On one hand, if it's true, I see some decent use. On the other hand, it could not be true since the Battle Frontier/Subway/Maison is filled with cheaters.Tornadus(-T) apparently gets Aeroblast in X and Y (a Tornadus in Pokemon Maison used it), so Tornadus-T is perfectly viable as an offensive Pokemon outside of rain.
I don't know know why... I think I just used another Pokemon with HP Ice and switching Manaphy is kept those IVs.Out of curiosity, why the hell are you running HP Ice IVs?
Honestly I was underwhelmed when I started using Genesect. I expected him to wreck shit like he did last gen. Instead, he's just a very good mon, who basically outclasses Scizor as an offensive bug/steel (Scizor still has defog/pursuit/knock off sets though) and fits on virtually any team. I used a shift gear set for a bit and it's cool, but with all the physically defensive Rotoms, Heatrans and priority moves running around it's hard to sweep with. Special attacking sets with u-turn seem to be the way to go, with choice scarf being the preferred item (altho ebelt and life orb are plenty viable).
Excadrill is another staple and I'm glad he's in OU. The ban last gen really deprived OU of a great spinner. Similar to Genesect, he's not gonna sweep teams, but he plays his role perfectly.
Manaphy is really good too. I don't think he will become a staple, but he's def something you have to prepare for when you build teams. He sets up really easily and hits hard. Bring him out at the right time and he's gonna take something out. Unfortunately, he's too slow to sweep, and you obviously can't run scarf or you can't tail glow.
Landorus is pretty good, not as good as the first 3 but worth consideration. He still hits stupidly hard, but there's more out there that can check him. Mandibuzz, Goodra, the blobs (who are more common now), plus the tons of faster threats and anything with strong priority like Talonflame or Azumarill will take a huge chunk from him if not outright KO him. If you need a glass cannon special attacker who's not named Genesect, Landorus is worth a shot.
Deoxys-D is great for both stall teams and offensive teams. For offense, you can easily get up rocks, status something, and if you're still alive use him as a pivot later in the game. For defensive teams, you can use him as a fast taunt with toxic and/or hazards. Those are his roles and he performs them pretty well. He's no Excadrill, but I could see him hanging around OU.
Deoxys-S is pretty meh. Support sets are really weak right now with all the defog going around. Life orb attacking sets are the saving grace, but he's still really weak to priority. I doubt this guy sees much use in OU.
Thundurus-I can still paralyze stuff. With all the priority though, it's not that great. Even the sweepers who you would really want to revenge paralyze like M-Kanga and M-Lucario have priority, so in order to paralyze them you would have to sacrifice Thundy and take a strong priority hit with your next poke (unless you get really lucky with the full paralysis). He's still a fast electric type, but if you want a pure sweeper Thundy-T hits harder, while Zapdos has better defenses. Won't see too much use in OU imo.
Tornadus-T is a mon I always liked a lot, but with that 70% accuracy on hurricane he's just not worth using unless you have a dedicated rain team. Unfortunate for a poke who was a monster last gen.
I ran that set with espeed over giga drain for Talonflame. Giga drain is nice for waters I guess but in order for it to out damage espeed after a shift gear you need to have gotten a special attack boost, which isn't ideal for sweeping, plus it leaves you open to being revenge killed by priority. I think pure physical with blaze kick over flamethrower is better if you know which mons you can come out on to boost your attack.Genesect is a top 5 mon in ou, and the key to the shift gear set is to go mixed. Not much (besides fire types) can handle shift gear, iron head, flamethrower, and giga drain. You may think that you need to use the attack boost, and special attacks are stupid, but rp sect didn't get any spatk boosts, so it's basically an rp sect that wrecks every special wall besides heatran. Every set is so good though, and it can basically choose to ok anything in the game, even heatran probably dies to a plus 1 explosion. Honestly it's hard to mAke a team with out it.
I play both stall and hyper offense and I've literally never had trouble with these two. Maybe they hit certain types of teams hard but I can't imagine them ever being banned if Gensect stays around.Idk what you are talking about for deo s, the life orbs set is the best revenge killer In the tier and a late game sweeper, even better than genesect (who it outspeeds). Also, while hazards aren't quite as good, they are still very useful, and deo s is still an amZing lead for hyper offense, and will likely get banned.
Thundurus is amazing, idk what you are talking about. Twave three attack with lefties is such good support for offensive teams, and it also packs such a nice punch. S rank easily.
Assault Vest Conkeldurr could threaten to knock off its Scarf (or items on their other Pokemon), or you could just paralyze it was a specially defensive Klefki since it has prankster and this does not require prediction on a switch in.Can you paralyze genesect relatively easily. After that you can just bring in something to finish it.