Metagame Gen V PU - NU in NU

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I've been experimenting with Shelgon/Kecleon as my defenses.

Shelgon has a wealth of resistances and has access to recovery via wish. Can tank those powerful hits from Rampardos and the like.

Kecleon's Special Defense is insane and I think that people really underestimate his ability. Choice specs/scarf users like the 3 monkeys or rotom are forced to switch out since their hits suddenly become ineffective. He also has recovery and access to stealth rock. I like to run Knock Off on him because eviolite users are so common.

Though the duo has an obvious weakness to dragons, since once Kecleon is hit by a dragon move they suddenly because super effective.
 
Physically defensive Gabite could work, as it has really good bulk with Eviolite and Rough Skin. Pair it up with a Specially Defensive resistant to ice and there's a core right there.
 
Although this may not be the best set, I find using an offensive Corsola to be quite interesting, and it's also fun to use, no matter how gimmicky it may seem.
Corsola, the Destroyer!




Corsola @Choice Band
Ability: Hustle
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Sdef
Adamant Nature
- Rock Blast / Stone Edge
- Icicle Spear
- Sucker Punch
- Earthquake

With an Adamant nature, max Attack EVs, and a choice band, Corsola has 532 attack. Although Corsola is a poor pokemon in general, with mediocre speed and middling speed, attack is nothing to mess with. Although this set is rather gimmicky, it can be a ''Monster'' and something that will really catch your opponent off guard. (This set does a lot better in trick room btw)

WARNING: Due to amazingly high power levels of this set, I reccomend you use with care and with great caution.
 
I started PU yesterday. I loved it. AndI love this set. It's actually pretty good against leads.

Furret @ Choice Band
Trait: Frisk
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Jolly Nature
- Trick
- U-Turn
- Return
- Fire Punch

I'm having some trouble with Scarfed Rotom-F, since it's pretty fast. Does anyone have any good solutions except like, the cats?
 
@Oceanic Lanturn

Simisear and Rapidash can outspeed Rotom-F and KO it, and Specially defensive Flareon and Camerupt can wall it and resist its blizzard. I believe Regigigas can wall it, too. (Regi is so bulky in PU.)
 
Um he already said that he had trouble with Scarf Rotom-F. Neither Rapidash nor Simisear typically uses Choice Scarf, so they are always outsped. The other Pokemon you mentioned are far more reliable in checking Rotom-F, and you can always run your own Rotom-F (not always the best idea). Just beware of Trick. It is actually pretty tough to stop Rotom-F without defensive Pokemon, which doesn't really bode well for offensive teams. However, by having something immune to Volt Switch, you can also restrict the momentum that it generates. Keeping up Rocks is a great idea as well, since it means that it can only come in 5 times max. Priority is always useful to keep it contained, though you'll have to look hard for a decent priority user that works with your team.
 
Woops, didn't see that date of the OP. That's what happens when you just learn about something today. You think it was created today.

Anyway, has anyone had any success with Combusken?
 

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I'm unsure if anyone has done this already but I can't be bothered sorting through the thread trying to find the same post, so if I am just repeating then I do apologise.

Just thought I'd show the PU mons sorted by their base stats. This doesn't include those NFEs that are viable, simply because I didn't feel like going through the list and picking out the ones that are usable. However, if anyone wants to suggest any I should include then just let me know and I'll update it.

Code:
Name         HP   Atk  Def SAtk SDef  Spd 

Wailord      170  90   45   90   45   60  
Slaking      150  160  100  95   65   100 
Wigglytuff   140  70   45   75   50   45  
Throh        120  100  85   30   85   45  
Whiscash     110  78   73   76   71   60  
Regigigas    110  160  110  80   110  100 
Walrein      110  80   90   95   90   65  
Stunfisk     109  66   84   81   99   32  
Muk          105  105  75   65   100  50  
Exploud      104  91   63   91   63   68  
Audino       103  60   86   60   86   50  
Dunsparce    100  70   70   65   65   45  
Relicanth    100  90   130  45   65   55  
Noctowl      100  50   50   76   96   70  
Swalot       100  73   83   73   83   55  
Tropius      99   68   83   72   87   51  
Rampardos    97   165  60   65   50   58  
Beartic      95   110  80   70   80   50  
Granbull     90   120  75   60   60   45  
Shiftry      90   100  60   90   60   80  
Dewgong      90   70   80   70   95   70  
Ursaring     90   130  75   75   75   55  
Hypno        85   73   70   73   115  67  
Stoutland    85   100  90   45   90   80  
Gigalith     85   135  130  60   70   25  
Heatmor      85   97   66   105  66   65  
Furret       85   76   64   45   55   90  
Pidgeot      83   80   75   70   70   91  
Unfezant     80   105  80   65   55   93  
Meganium     80   82   100  83   100  80  
Vigoroth     80   80   80   55   55   90  
Luxray       80   120  79   95   79   70  
Glalie       80   80   80   80   80   80  
Machoke      80   100  70   50   60   45  
Golduck      80   82   78   95   80   85  
Grumpig      80   45   65   90   110  80  
Phione       80   80   80   80   80   80  
Victreebel   80   105  65   100  60   70  
Seaking      80   92   65   65   80   68  
Bibarel      79   85   60   55   60   71  
Linoone      78   70   61   50   61   100 
Kricketune   77   85   51   55   51   65  
Chatot       76   65   45   92   42   91  
Simisear     75   98   63   98   63   101 
Swanna       75   87   63   87   63   98  
Maractus     75   86   67   106  67   60  
Octillery    75   105  75   105  75   45  
Sunflora     75   75   55   105  85   30  
Golbat       75   80   70   65   75   90  
Vileplume    75   80   85   100  90   50  
Leavanny     75   103  80   70   70   92  
Simisage     75   98   63   98   63   101 
Bellossom    75   80   85   90   100  50  
Beheeyem     75   75   75   125  95   40  
Jumpluff     75   55   70   55   85   110 
Simipour     75   98   63   98   63   101 
Carnivine    74   100  72   90   72   46  
Seviper      73   100  60   100  60   65  
Stantler     73   95   62   85   65   85  
Zweilous     72   85   70   65   70   58  
Purugly      71   82   64   64   59   112 
Vanilluxe    71   95   85   110  95   79  
Masquerain   70   60   62   80   82   60  
Delcatty     70   65   65   55   55   70  
Mothim       70   94   50   94   50   66  
Castform     70   70   70   70   70   70  
Lunatone     70   55   65   95   85   70  
Girafarig    70   80   65   90   65   85  
Sudowoodo    70   100  115  30   65   30  
Vespiquen    70   80   102  80   102  40  
Cherrim      70   60   70   87   78   85  
Mightyena    70   90   70   60   60   70  
Solrock      70   95   85   55   65   70  
Camerupt     70   100  70   105  75   40  
Ariados      70   90   70   60   60   40  
Basculin     70   92   65   80   55   98  
Lumineon     69   69   76   69   86   91  
Gabite       68   90   65   50   55   82  
Swoobat      67   57   55   77   55   114 
Fraxure      66   117  70   40   50   67  
Lopunny      65   76   84   54   96   105 
Leafeon      65   110  130  60   65   95  
Illumise     65   47   55   73   75   85  
Glaceon      65   60   110  130  95   65  
Rapidash     65   100  70   80   80   105 
Mantine      65   40   70   80   140  70  
Persian      65   70   60   65   65   115 
Flareon      65   130  60   95   110  65  
Volbeat      65   73   55   47   75   85  
Chimecho     65   50   70   95   80   65  
Fearow       65   90   65   61   61   100 
Shelgon      65   95   100  60   50   50  
Beedrill     65   80   40   45   80   75  
Banette      64   115  65   83   63   65  
Monferno     64   78   52   78   52   81  
Dragonair    61   84   65   70   70   70  
Lairon       60   90   140  50   50   40  
Combusken    60   85   60   85   60   55  
Wormadam     60   59   85   79   105  36  
Kecleon      60   90   70   60   120  40  
Plusle       60   50   40   85   75   95  
Pachirisu    60   45   70   45   90   95  
Arbok        60   85   69   65   79   80  
Murkrow      60   85   42   85   42   91  
Lampent      60   40   60   95   60   55  
Minun        60   40   50   75   85   95  
Wormadam-G   60   79   105  59   85   36  
Wormadam-S   60   69   95   69   95   36  
Spinda       60   60   60   60   60   60  
Parasect     60   95   80   60   80   30  
Dodrio       60   110  70   60   60   100 
Pelipper     60   50   100  85   70   65  
Raichu       60   90   55   90   80   100 
Beautifly    60   70   50   90   50   65  
Watchog      60   85   69   60   69   77  
Butterfree   60   45   50   80   80   70  
Dustox       60   50   70   50   90   65  
Togetic      55   40   85   80   105  40  
Ledian       55   35   50   55   110  85  
Sneasel      55   95   55   35   75   115 
Emolga       55   75   60   75   60   103 
Raticate     55   81   60   50   70   97  
Kingler      55   130  115  50   50   75  
Huntail      55   104  105  94   75   52  
Seadra       55   65   95   95   45   85  
Corsola      55   55   85   65   85   35  
Farfetch'd   52   65   55   58   62   60  
Rotom-F      50   65   107  105  107  86  
Mawile       50   85   85   55   55   50  
Magcargo     50   50   120  80   80   30  
Unown        48   72   48   72   48   48  
Delibird     45   55   45   65   45   75  
Luvdisc      43   30   55   40   65   97  
Whirlipede   40   55   99   40   79   47  
Natu         40   50   45   70   45   70  
Pikachu      35   55   30   50   40   90  
Shuckle      20   10   230  10   230   5  
Shedinja      1   90   45   30   30   40
Code:
Name         HP   Atk  Def SAtk SDef  Spd 

Rampardos    97   165  60   65   50   58  
Slaking      150  160  100  95   65   100 
Regigigas    110  160  110  80   110  100 
Gigalith     85   135  130  60   70   25  
Flareon      65   130  60   95   110  65  
Kingler      55   130  115  50   50   75  
Ursaring     90   130  75   75   75   55  
Granbull     90   120  75   60   60   45  
Luxray       80   120  79   95   79   70  
Fraxure      66   117  70   40   50   67  
Banette      64   115  65   83   63   65  
Leafeon      65   110  130  60   65   95  
Beartic      95   110  80   70   80   50  
Dodrio       60   110  70   60   60   100 
Unfezant     80   105  80   65   55   93  
Octillery    75   105  75   105  75   45  
Muk          105  105  75   65   100  50  
Victreebel   80   105  65   100  60   70  
Huntail      55   104  105  94   75   52  
Leavanny     75   103  80   70   70   92  
Sudowoodo    70   100  115  30   65   30  
Seviper      73   100  60   100  60   65  
Rapidash     65   100  70   80   80   105 
Shiftry      90   100  60   90   60   80  
Machoke      80   100  70   50   60   45  
Carnivine    74   100  72   90   72   46  
Stoutland    85   100  90   45   90   80  
Camerupt     70   100  70   105  75   40  
Throh        120  100  85   30   85   45  
Simisear     75   98   63   98   63   101 
Simisage     75   98   63   98   63   101 
Simipour     75   98   63   98   63   101 
Heatmor      85   97   66   105  66   65  
Sneasel      55   95   55   35   75   115 
Solrock      70   95   85   55   65   70  
Parasect     60   95   80   60   80   30  
Stantler     73   95   62   85   65   85  
Vanilluxe    71   95   85   110  95   79  
Shelgon      65   95   100  60   50   50  
Mothim       70   94   50   94   50   66  
Basculin     70   92   65   80   55   98  
Seaking      80   92   65   65   80   68  
Exploud      104  91   63   91   63   68  
Lairon       60   90   140  50   50   40  
Shedinja      1   90   45   30   30   40  
Kecleon      60   90   70   60   120  40  
Mightyena    70   90   70   60   60   70  
Relicanth    100  90   130  45   65   55  
Ariados      70   90   70   60   60   40  
Fearow       65   90   65   61   61   100 
Wailord      170  90   45   90   45   60  
Raichu       60   90   55   90   80   100 
Gabite       68   90   65   50   55   82  
Swanna       75   87   63   87   63   98  
Maractus     75   86   67   106  67   60  
Kricketune   77   85   51   55   51   65  
Combusken    60   85   60   85   60   55  
Zweilous     72   85   70   65   70   58  
Arbok        60   85   69   65   79   80  
Murkrow      60   85   42   85   42   91  
Mawile       50   85   85   55   55   50  
Bibarel      79   85   60   55   60   71  
Watchog      60   85   69   60   69   77  
Dragonair    61   84   65   70   70   70  
Meganium     80   82   100  83   100  80  
Purugly      71   82   64   64   59   112 
Golduck      80   82   78   95   80   85  
Raticate     55   81   60   50   70   97  
Vigoroth     80   80   80   55   55   90  
Girafarig    70   80   65   90   65   85  
Pidgeot      83   80   75   70   70   91  
Vespiquen    70   80   102  80   102  40  
Glalie       80   80   80   80   80   80  
Golbat       75   80   70   65   75   90  
Vileplume    75   80   85   100  90   50  
Phione       80   80   80   80   80   80  
Bellossom    75   80   85   90   100  50  
Beedrill     65   80   40   45   80   75  
Walrein      110  80   90   95   90   65  
Wormadam-G   60   79   105  59   85   36  
Whiscash     110  78   73   76   71   60  
Monferno     64   78   52   78   52   81  
Lopunny      65   76   84   54   96   105 
Furret       85   76   64   45   55   90  
Emolga       55   75   60   75   60   103 
Sunflora     75   75   55   105  85   30  
Beheeyem     75   75   75   125  95   40  
Hypno        85   73   70   73   115  67  
Volbeat      65   73   55   47   75   85  
Swalot       100  73   83   73   83   55  
Unown        48   72   48   72   48   48  
Wigglytuff   140  70   45   75   50   45  
Castform     70   70   70   70   70   70  
Linoone      78   70   61   50   61   100 
Persian      65   70   60   65   65   115 
Dunsparce    100  70   70   65   65   45  
Dewgong      90   70   80   70   95   70  
Beautifly    60   70   50   90   50   65  
Lumineon     69   69   76   69   86   91  
Wormadam-S   60   69   95   69   95   36  
Tropius      99   68   83   72   87   51  
Stunfisk     109  66   84   81   99   32  
Delcatty     70   65   65   55   55   70  
Rotom-F      50   65   107  105  107  86  
Farfetch'd   52   65   55   58   62   60  
Chatot       76   65   45   92   42   91  
Seadra       55   65   95   95   45   85  
Masquerain   70   60   62   80   82   60  
Glaceon      65   60   110  130  95   65  
Cherrim      70   60   70   87   78   85  
Spinda       60   60   60   60   60   60  
Audino       103  60   86   60   86   50  
Wormadam     60   59   85   79   105  36  
Swoobat      67   57   55   77   55   114 
Lunatone     70   55   65   95   85   70  
Delibird     45   55   45   65   45   75  
Pikachu      35   55   30   50   40   90  
Jumpluff     75   55   70   55   85   110 
Whirlipede   40   55   99   40   79   47  
Corsola      55   55   85   65   85   35  
Plusle       60   50   40   85   75   95  
Chimecho     65   50   70   95   80   65  
Pelipper     60   50   100  85   70   65  
Magcargo     50   50   120  80   80   30  
Natu         40   50   45   70   45   70  
Noctowl      100  50   50   76   96   70  
Dustox       60   50   70   50   90   65  
Illumise     65   47   55   73   75   85  
Pachirisu    60   45   70   45   90   95  
Grumpig      80   45   65   90   110  80  
Butterfree   60   45   50   80   80   70  
Togetic      55   40   85   80   105  40  
Lampent      60   40   60   95   60   55  
Mantine      65   40   70   80   140  70  
Minun        60   40   50   75   85   95  
Ledian       55   35   50   55   110  85  
Luvdisc      43   30   55   40   65   97  
Shuckle      20   10   230  10   230   5
Code:
Name         HP   Atk  Def SAtk SDef  Spd 

Shuckle      20   10   230  10   230   5  
Lairon       60   90   140  50   50   40  
Leafeon      65   110  130  60   65   95  
Relicanth    100  90   130  45   65   55  
Gigalith     85   135  130  60   70   25  
Magcargo     50   50   120  80   80   30  
Sudowoodo    70   100  115  30   65   30  
Kingler      55   130  115  50   50   75  
Glaceon      65   60   110  130  95   65  
Regigigas    110  160  110  80   110  100 
Rotom-F      50   65   107  105  107  86  
Wormadam-G   60   79   105  59   85   36  
Huntail      55   104  105  94   75   52  
Vespiquen    70   80   102  80   102  40  
Meganium     80   82   100  83   100  80  
Slaking      150  160  100  95   65   100 
Pelipper     60   50   100  85   70   65  
Shelgon      65   95   100  60   50   50  
Whirlipede   40   55   99   40   79   47  
Wormadam-S   60   69   95   69   95   36  
Seadra       55   65   95   95   45   85  
Stoutland    85   100  90   45   90   80  
Walrein      110  80   90   95   90   65  
Audino       103  60   86   60   86   50  
Togetic      55   40   85   80   105  40  
Wormadam     60   59   85   79   105  36  
Solrock      70   95   85   55   65   70  
Vileplume    75   80   85   100  90   50  
Mawile       50   85   85   55   55   50  
Bellossom    75   80   85   90   100  50  
Vanilluxe    71   95   85   110  95   79  
Throh        120  100  85   30   85   45  
Corsola      55   55   85   65   85   35  
Lopunny      65   76   84   54   96   105 
Stunfisk     109  66   84   81   99   32  
Tropius      99   68   83   72   87   51  
Swalot       100  73   83   73   83   55  
Unfezant     80   105  80   65   55   93  
Vigoroth     80   80   80   55   55   90  
Glalie       80   80   80   80   80   80  
Beartic      95   110  80   70   80   50  
Leavanny     75   103  80   70   70   92  
Phione       80   80   80   80   80   80  
Parasect     60   95   80   60   80   30  
Dewgong      90   70   80   70   95   70  
Luxray       80   120  79   95   79   70  
Golduck      80   82   78   95   80   85  
Lumineon     69   69   76   69   86   91  
Granbull     90   120  75   60   60   45  
Pidgeot      83   80   75   70   70   91  
Octillery    75   105  75   105  75   45  
Muk          105  105  75   65   100  50  
Beheeyem     75   75   75   125  95   40  
Ursaring     90   130  75   75   75   55  
Whiscash     110  78   73   76   71   60  
Carnivine    74   100  72   90   72   46  
Zweilous     72   85   70   65   70   58  
Fraxure      66   117  70   40   50   67  
Kecleon      60   90   70   60   120  40  
Castform     70   70   70   70   70   70  
Hypno        85   73   70   73   115  67  
Pachirisu    60   45   70   45   90   95  
Rapidash     65   100  70   80   80   105 
Mantine      65   40   70   80   140  70  
Cherrim      70   60   70   87   78   85  
Mightyena    70   90   70   60   60   70  
Machoke      80   100  70   50   60   45  
Golbat       75   80   70   65   75   90  
Dunsparce    100  70   70   65   65   45  
Camerupt     70   100  70   105  75   40  
Chimecho     65   50   70   95   80   65  
Ariados      70   90   70   60   60   40  
Dodrio       60   110  70   60   60   100 
Jumpluff     75   55   70   55   85   110 
Dustox       60   50   70   50   90   65  
Arbok        60   85   69   65   79   80  
Watchog      60   85   69   60   69   77  
Maractus     75   86   67   106  67   60  
Heatmor      85   97   66   105  66   65  
Delcatty     70   65   65   55   55   70  
Lunatone     70   55   65   95   85   70  
Girafarig    70   80   65   90   65   85  
Banette      64   115  65   83   63   65  
Grumpig      80   45   65   90   110  80  
Victreebel   80   105  65   100  60   70  
Fearow       65   90   65   61   61   100 
Basculin     70   92   65   80   55   98  
Seaking      80   92   65   65   80   68  
Gabite       68   90   65   50   55   82  
Dragonair    61   84   65   70   70   70  
Purugly      71   82   64   64   59   112 
Furret       85   76   64   45   55   90  
Simisear     75   98   63   98   63   101 
Exploud      104  91   63   91   63   68  
Swanna       75   87   63   87   63   98  
Simisage     75   98   63   98   63   101 
Simipour     75   98   63   98   63   101 
Masquerain   70   60   62   80   82   60  
Stantler     73   95   62   85   65   85  
Linoone      78   70   61   50   61   100 
Combusken    60   85   60   85   60   55  
Seviper      73   100  60   100  60   65  
Lampent      60   40   60   95   60   55  
Persian      65   70   60   65   65   115 
Emolga       55   75   60   75   60   103 
Shiftry      90   100  60   90   60   80  
Flareon      65   130  60   95   110  65  
Raticate     55   81   60   50   70   97  
Spinda       60   60   60   60   60   60  
Bibarel      79   85   60   55   60   71  
Rampardos    97   165  60   65   50   58  
Luvdisc      43   30   55   40   65   97  
Illumise     65   47   55   73   75   85  
Sneasel      55   95   55   35   75   115 
Sunflora     75   75   55   105  85   30  
Volbeat      65   73   55   47   75   85  
Farfetch'd   52   65   55   58   62   60  
Swoobat      67   57   55   77   55   114 
Raichu       60   90   55   90   80   100 
Monferno     64   78   52   78   52   81  
Kricketune   77   85   51   55   51   65  
Mothim       70   94   50   94   50   66  
Ledian       55   35   50   55   110  85  
Minun        60   40   50   75   85   95  
Beautifly    60   70   50   90   50   65  
Noctowl      100  50   50   76   96   70  
Butterfree   60   45   50   80   80   70  
Unown        48   72   48   72   48   48  
Wigglytuff   140  70   45   75   50   45  
Shedinja      1   90   45   30   30   40  
Delibird     45   55   45   65   45   75  
Wailord      170  90   45   90   45   60  
Natu         40   50   45   70   45   70  
Chatot       76   65   45   92   42   91  
Murkrow      60   85   42   85   42   91  
Plusle       60   50   40   85   75   95  
Beedrill     65   80   40   45   80   75  
Pikachu      35   55   30   50   40   90
Code:
Name         HP   Atk  Def SAtk SDef  Spd 

Glaceon      65   60   110  130  95   65  
Beheeyem     75   75   75   125  95   40  
Vanilluxe    71   95   85   110  95   79  
Maractus     75   86   67   106  67   60  
Octillery    75   105  75   105  75   45  
Rotom-F      50   65   107  105  107  86  
Sunflora     75   75   55   105  85   30  
Camerupt     70   100  70   105  75   40  
Heatmor      85   97   66   105  66   65  
Seviper      73   100  60   100  60   65  
Vileplume    75   80   85   100  90   50  
Victreebel   80   105  65   100  60   70  
Simisear     75   98   63   98   63   101 
Simisage     75   98   63   98   63   101 
Simipour     75   98   63   98   63   101 
Lunatone     70   55   65   95   85   70  
Lampent      60   40   60   95   60   55  
Luxray       80   120  79   95   79   70  
Flareon      65   130  60   95   110  65  
Slaking      150  160  100  95   65   100 
Golduck      80   82   78   95   80   85  
Chimecho     65   50   70   95   80   65  
Seadra       55   65   95   95   45   85  
Walrein      110  80   90   95   90   65  
Mothim       70   94   50   94   50   66  
Huntail      55   104  105  94   75   52  
Chatot       76   65   45   92   42   91  
Exploud      104  91   63   91   63   68  
Girafarig    70   80   65   90   65   85  
Shiftry      90   100  60   90   60   80  
Carnivine    74   100  72   90   72   46  
Grumpig      80   45   65   90   110  80  
Bellossom    75   80   85   90   100  50  
Wailord      170  90   45   90   45   60  
Raichu       60   90   55   90   80   100 
Beautifly    60   70   50   90   50   65  
Swanna       75   87   63   87   63   98  
Cherrim      70   60   70   87   78   85  
Combusken    60   85   60   85   60   55  
Plusle       60   50   40   85   75   95  
Murkrow      60   85   42   85   42   91  
Stantler     73   95   62   85   65   85  
Pelipper     60   50   100  85   70   65  
Meganium     80   82   100  83   100  80  
Banette      64   115  65   83   63   65  
Stunfisk     109  66   84   81   99   32  
Togetic      55   40   85   80   105  40  
Masquerain   70   60   62   80   82   60  
Vespiquen    70   80   102  80   102  40  
Rapidash     65   100  70   80   80   105 
Mantine      65   40   70   80   140  70  
Glalie       80   80   80   80   80   80  
Phione       80   80   80   80   80   80  
Basculin     70   92   65   80   55   98  
Magcargo     50   50   120  80   80   30  
Regigigas    110  160  110  80   110  100 
Butterfree   60   45   50   80   80   70  
Wormadam     60   59   85   79   105  36  
Monferno     64   78   52   78   52   81  
Swoobat      67   57   55   77   55   114 
Whiscash     110  78   73   76   71   60  
Noctowl      100  50   50   76   96   70  
Wigglytuff   140  70   45   75   50   45  
Emolga       55   75   60   75   60   103 
Minun        60   40   50   75   85   95  
Ursaring     90   130  75   75   75   55  
Illumise     65   47   55   73   75   85  
Hypno        85   73   70   73   115  67  
Swalot       100  73   83   73   83   55  
Tropius      99   68   83   72   87   51  
Unown        48   72   48   72   48   48  
Castform     70   70   70   70   70   70  
Pidgeot      83   80   75   70   70   91  
Beartic      95   110  80   70   80   50  
Leavanny     75   103  80   70   70   92  
Dewgong      90   70   80   70   95   70  
Natu         40   50   45   70   45   70  
Dragonair    61   84   65   70   70   70  
Lumineon     69   69   76   69   86   91  
Wormadam-S   60   69   95   69   95   36  
Unfezant     80   105  80   65   55   93  
Zweilous     72   85   70   65   70   58  
Arbok        60   85   69   65   79   80  
Delibird     45   55   45   65   45   75  
Persian      65   70   60   65   65   115 
Golbat       75   80   70   65   75   90  
Dunsparce    100  70   70   65   65   45  
Muk          105  105  75   65   100  50  
Seaking      80   92   65   65   80   68  
Rampardos    97   165  60   65   50   58  
Corsola      55   55   85   65   85   35  
Purugly      71   82   64   64   59   112 
Fearow       65   90   65   61   61   100 
Leafeon      65   110  130  60   65   95  
Kecleon      60   90   70   60   120  40  
Granbull     90   120  75   60   60   45  
Mightyena    70   90   70   60   60   70  
Spinda       60   60   60   60   60   60  
Parasect     60   95   80   60   80   30  
Ariados      70   90   70   60   60   40  
Dodrio       60   110  70   60   60   100 
Gigalith     85   135  130  60   70   25  
Shelgon      65   95   100  60   50   50  
Watchog      60   85   69   60   69   77  
Audino       103  60   86   60   86   50  
Wormadam-G   60   79   105  59   85   36  
Farfetch'd   52   65   55   58   62   60  
Kricketune   77   85   51   55   51   65  
Vigoroth     80   80   80   55   55   90  
Delcatty     70   65   65   55   55   70  
Ledian       55   35   50   55   110  85  
Solrock      70   95   85   55   65   70  
Mawile       50   85   85   55   55   50  
Jumpluff     75   55   70   55   85   110 
Bibarel      79   85   60   55   60   71  
Lopunny      65   76   84   54   96   105 
Lairon       60   90   140  50   50   40  
Linoone      78   70   61   50   61   100 
Machoke      80   100  70   50   60   45  
Raticate     55   81   60   50   70   97  
Kingler      55   130  115  50   50   75  
Pikachu      35   55   30   50   40   90  
Gabite       68   90   65   50   55   82  
Dustox       60   50   70   50   90   65  
Volbeat      65   73   55   47   75   85  
Pachirisu    60   45   70   45   90   95  
Stoutland    85   100  90   45   90   80  
Relicanth    100  90   130  45   65   55  
Beedrill     65   80   40   45   80   75  
Furret       85   76   64   45   55   90  
Fraxure      66   117  70   40   50   67  
Luvdisc      43   30   55   40   65   97  
Whirlipede   40   55   99   40   79   47  
Sneasel      55   95   55   35   75   115 
Shedinja      1   90   45   30   30   40  
Sudowoodo    70   100  115  30   65   30  
Throh        120  100  85   30   85   45  
Shuckle      20   10   230  10   230   5
Code:
Name         HP   Atk  Def SAtk SDef  Spd 

Shuckle      20   10   230  10   230   5  
Mantine      65   40   70   80   140  70  
Kecleon      60   90   70   60   120  40  
Hypno        85   73   70   73   115  67  
Ledian       55   35   50   55   110  85  
Flareon      65   130  60   95   110  65  
Grumpig      80   45   65   90   110  80  
Regigigas    110  160  110  80   110  100 
Rotom-F      50   65   107  105  107  86  
Togetic      55   40   85   80   105  40  
Wormadam     60   59   85   79   105  36  
Vespiquen    70   80   102  80   102  40  
Meganium     80   82   100  83   100  80  
Muk          105  105  75   65   100  50  
Bellossom    75   80   85   90   100  50  
Stunfisk     109  66   84   81   99   32  
Lopunny      65   76   84   54   96   105 
Noctowl      100  50   50   76   96   70  
Glaceon      65   60   110  130  95   65  
Wormadam-S   60   69   95   69   95   36  
Vanilluxe    71   95   85   110  95   79  
Beheeyem     75   75   75   125  95   40  
Dewgong      90   70   80   70   95   70  
Pachirisu    60   45   70   45   90   95  
Vileplume    75   80   85   100  90   50  
Stoutland    85   100  90   45   90   80  
Walrein      110  80   90   95   90   65  
Dustox       60   50   70   50   90   65  
Tropius      99   68   83   72   87   51  
Lumineon     69   69   76   69   86   91  
Audino       103  60   86   60   86   50  
Lunatone     70   55   65   95   85   70  
Minun        60   40   50   75   85   95  
Wormadam-G   60   79   105  59   85   36  
Sunflora     75   75   55   105  85   30  
Jumpluff     75   55   70   55   85   110 
Throh        120  100  85   30   85   45  
Corsola      55   55   85   65   85   35  
Swalot       100  73   83   73   83   55  
Masquerain   70   60   62   80   82   60  
Rapidash     65   100  70   80   80   105 
Glalie       80   80   80   80   80   80  
Beartic      95   110  80   70   80   50  
Golduck      80   82   78   95   80   85  
Phione       80   80   80   80   80   80  
Parasect     60   95   80   60   80   30  
Chimecho     65   50   70   95   80   65  
Raichu       60   90   55   90   80   100 
Magcargo     50   50   120  80   80   30  
Seaking      80   92   65   65   80   68  
Beedrill     65   80   40   45   80   75  
Butterfree   60   45   50   80   80   70  
Arbok        60   85   69   65   79   80  
Luxray       80   120  79   95   79   70  
Whirlipede   40   55   99   40   79   47  
Cherrim      70   60   70   87   78   85  
Illumise     65   47   55   73   75   85  
Plusle       60   50   40   85   75   95  
Sneasel      55   95   55   35   75   115 
Octillery    75   105  75   105  75   45  
Golbat       75   80   70   65   75   90  
Volbeat      65   73   55   47   75   85  
Camerupt     70   100  70   105  75   40  
Ursaring     90   130  75   75   75   55  
Huntail      55   104  105  94   75   52  
Carnivine    74   100  72   90   72   46  
Whiscash     110  78   73   76   71   60  
Zweilous     72   85   70   65   70   58  
Castform     70   70   70   70   70   70  
Pidgeot      83   80   75   70   70   91  
Raticate     55   81   60   50   70   97  
Leavanny     75   103  80   70   70   92  
Gigalith     85   135  130  60   70   25  
Pelipper     60   50   100  85   70   65  
Dragonair    61   84   65   70   70   70  
Watchog      60   85   69   60   69   77  
Maractus     75   86   67   106  67   60  
Heatmor      85   97   66   105  66   65  
Leafeon      65   110  130  60   65   95  
Luvdisc      43   30   55   40   65   97  
Girafarig    70   80   65   90   65   85  
Sudowoodo    70   100  115  30   65   30  
Persian      65   70   60   65   65   115 
Solrock      70   95   85   55   65   70  
Dunsparce    100  70   70   65   65   45  
Slaking      150  160  100  95   65   100 
Relicanth    100  90   130  45   65   55  
Stantler     73   95   62   85   65   85  
Simisear     75   98   63   98   63   101 
Exploud      104  91   63   91   63   68  
Swanna       75   87   63   87   63   98  
Banette      64   115  65   83   63   65  
Simisage     75   98   63   98   63   101 
Simipour     75   98   63   98   63   101 
Farfetch'd   52   65   55   58   62   60  
Linoone      78   70   61   50   61   100 
Fearow       65   90   65   61   61   100 
Combusken    60   85   60   85   60   55  
Granbull     90   120  75   60   60   45  
Seviper      73   100  60   100  60   65  
Lampent      60   40   60   95   60   55  
Emolga       55   75   60   75   60   103 
Shiftry      90   100  60   90   60   80  
Mightyena    70   90   70   60   60   70  
Machoke      80   100  70   50   60   45  
Spinda       60   60   60   60   60   60  
Victreebel   80   105  65   100  60   70  
Ariados      70   90   70   60   60   40  
Dodrio       60   110  70   60   60   100 
Bibarel      79   85   60   55   60   71  
Purugly      71   82   64   64   59   112 
Unfezant     80   105  80   65   55   93  
Vigoroth     80   80   80   55   55   90  
Delcatty     70   65   65   55   55   70  
Mawile       50   85   85   55   55   50  
Swoobat      67   57   55   77   55   114 
Basculin     70   92   65   80   55   98  
Gabite       68   90   65   50   55   82  
Furret       85   76   64   45   55   90  
Monferno     64   78   52   78   52   81  
Kricketune   77   85   51   55   51   65  
Lairon       60   90   140  50   50   40  
Wigglytuff   140  70   45   75   50   45  
Fraxure      66   117  70   40   50   67  
Mothim       70   94   50   94   50   66  
Kingler      55   130  115  50   50   75  
Beautifly    60   70   50   90   50   65  
Shelgon      65   95   100  60   50   50  
Rampardos    97   165  60   65   50   58  
Unown        48   72   48   72   48   48  
Delibird     45   55   45   65   45   75  
Wailord      170  90   45   90   45   60  
Natu         40   50   45   70   45   70  
Seadra       55   65   95   95   45   85  
Murkrow      60   85   42   85   42   91  
Chatot       76   65   45   92   42   91  
Pikachu      35   55   30   50   40   90  
Shedinja      1   90   45   30   30   40
And finally, the one I think is probably most useful to have:
Code:
Name         HP   Atk  Def SAtk SDef  Spd 

Sneasel      55   95   55   35   75   115 
Persian      65   70   60   65   65   115 
Swoobat      67   57   55   77   55   114 
Purugly      71   82   64   64   59   112 
Jumpluff     75   55   70   55   85   110 
Lopunny      65   76   84   54   96   105 
Rapidash     65   100  70   80   80   105 
Emolga       55   75   60   75   60   103 
Simisear     75   98   63   98   63   101 
Simisage     75   98   63   98   63   101 
Simipour     75   98   63   98   63   101 
Linoone      78   70   61   50   61   100 
Slaking      150  160  100  95   65   100 
Dodrio       60   110  70   60   60   100 
Fearow       65   90   65   61   61   100 
Raichu       60   90   55   90   80   100 
Regigigas    110  160  110  80   110  100 
Swanna       75   87   63   87   63   98  
Basculin     70   92   65   80   55   98  
Luvdisc      43   30   55   40   65   97  
Raticate     55   81   60   50   70   97  
Leafeon      65   110  130  60   65   95  
Plusle       60   50   40   85   75   95  
Pachirisu    60   45   70   45   90   95  
Minun        60   40   50   75   85   95  
Unfezant     80   105  80   65   55   93  
Leavanny     75   103  80   70   70   92  
Pidgeot      83   80   75   70   70   91  
Murkrow      60   85   42   85   42   91  
Lumineon     69   69   76   69   86   91  
Chatot       76   65   45   92   42   91  
Vigoroth     80   80   80   55   55   90  
Golbat       75   80   70   65   75   90  
Pikachu      35   55   30   50   40   90  
Furret       85   76   64   45   55   90  
Rotom-F      50   65   107  105  107  86  
Ledian       55   35   50   55   110  85  
Illumise     65   47   55   73   75   85  
Girafarig    70   80   65   90   65   85  
Cherrim      70   60   70   87   78   85  
Golduck      80   82   78   95   80   85  
Volbeat      65   73   55   47   75   85  
Stantler     73   95   62   85   65   85  
Seadra       55   65   95   95   45   85  
Gabite       68   90   65   50   55   82  
Monferno     64   78   52   78   52   81  
Meganium     80   82   100  83   100  80  
Arbok        60   85   69   65   79   80  
Glalie       80   80   80   80   80   80  
Shiftry      90   100  60   90   60   80  
Stoutland    85   100  90   45   90   80  
Grumpig      80   45   65   90   110  80  
Phione       80   80   80   80   80   80  
Vanilluxe    71   95   85   110  95   79  
Watchog      60   85   69   60   69   77  
Delibird     45   55   45   65   45   75  
Kingler      55   130  115  50   50   75  
Beedrill     65   80   40   45   80   75  
Bibarel      79   85   60   55   60   71  
Delcatty     70   65   65   55   55   70  
Castform     70   70   70   70   70   70  
Lunatone     70   55   65   95   85   70  
Luxray       80   120  79   95   79   70  
Mantine      65   40   70   80   140  70  
Mightyena    70   90   70   60   60   70  
Solrock      70   95   85   55   65   70  
Victreebel   80   105  65   100  60   70  
Dewgong      90   70   80   70   95   70  
Natu         40   50   45   70   45   70  
Noctowl      100  50   50   76   96   70  
Butterfree   60   45   50   80   80   70  
Dragonair    61   84   65   70   70   70  
Exploud      104  91   63   91   63   68  
Seaking      80   92   65   65   80   68  
Fraxure      66   117  70   40   50   67  
Hypno        85   73   70   73   115  67  
Mothim       70   94   50   94   50   66  
Kricketune   77   85   51   55   51   65  
Seviper      73   100  60   100  60   65  
Banette      64   115  65   83   63   65  
Glaceon      65   60   110  130  95   65  
Flareon      65   130  60   95   110  65  
Chimecho     65   50   70   95   80   65  
Pelipper     60   50   100  85   70   65  
Heatmor      85   97   66   105  66   65  
Beautifly    60   70   50   90   50   65  
Walrein      110  80   90   95   90   65  
Dustox       60   50   70   50   90   65  
Masquerain   70   60   62   80   82   60  
Maractus     75   86   67   106  67   60  
Farfetch'd   52   65   55   58   62   60  
Whiscash     110  78   73   76   71   60  
Spinda       60   60   60   60   60   60  
Wailord      170  90   45   90   45   60  
Zweilous     72   85   70   65   70   58  
Rampardos    97   165  60   65   50   58  
Combusken    60   85   60   85   60   55  
Lampent      60   40   60   95   60   55  
Relicanth    100  90   130  45   65   55  
Ursaring     90   130  75   75   75   55  
Swalot       100  73   83   73   83   55  
Huntail      55   104  105  94   75   52  
Tropius      99   68   83   72   87   51  
Beartic      95   110  80   70   80   50  
Vileplume    75   80   85   100  90   50  
Muk          105  105  75   65   100  50  
Mawile       50   85   85   55   55   50  
Bellossom    75   80   85   90   100  50  
Shelgon      65   95   100  60   50   50  
Audino       103  60   86   60   86   50  
Unown        48   72   48   72   48   48  
Whirlipede   40   55   99   40   79   47  
Carnivine    74   100  72   90   72   46  
Wigglytuff   140  70   45   75   50   45  
Granbull     90   120  75   60   60   45  
Octillery    75   105  75   105  75   45  
Machoke      80   100  70   50   60   45  
Dunsparce    100  70   70   65   65   45  
Throh        120  100  85   30   85   45  
Lairon       60   90   140  50   50   40  
Togetic      55   40   85   80   105  40  
Shedinja      1   90   45   30   30   40  
Kecleon      60   90   70   60   120  40  
Vespiquen    70   80   102  80   102  40  
Camerupt     70   100  70   105  75   40  
Ariados      70   90   70   60   60   40  
Beheeyem     75   75   75   125  95   40  
Wormadam     60   59   85   79   105  36  
Wormadam-G   60   79   105  59   85   36  
Wormadam-S   60   69   95   69   95   36  
Corsola      55   55   85   65   85   35  
Stunfisk     109  66   84   81   99   32  
Sudowoodo    70   100  115  30   65   30  
Sunflora     75   75   55   105  85   30  
Parasect     60   95   80   60   80   30  
Magcargo     50   50   120  80   80   30  
Gigalith     85   135  130  60   70   25  
Shuckle      20   10   230  10   230   5
Looks like bases 50, 65 and 70 are the ones to aim to creep.
 
From what I see, outspeeding base 67 (Fraxure) is a must on any average Speed Pokemon, since letting it get a free Dragon Dance is likely to be fatal. The next significant Speed tier would be base 70, since most of thee Pokemon actually run max Speed (unlike the base 50s and 65s) and are likely to boost their Speed). If you want to consider the lower SPeed mons, then I'd say consider them at +1 and +2, since their natural Speed is too poor otherwise. Base 80 and 85 are very pivotal to keep an eye on, with stuff like Stoutland, Golduck, Shiftry and Arbok all being very powerful threats that all teams must keep an eye on when facing. Of course, one must never turn their back on the Pokemon with Speed higher than the 85s, since they are the main targets for your Choice Scarf Pokemon to outspeed (and most of them rarely use Choice Scarf).
 
Hey, I know the PU list updates with every other tier every three months, but why doesn't the PU list update with the NU usage stats every month? Wouldn't that make more sense? Some pokemon have dropped in usage since April, enough to make them PU. But, they're still considered NU according to usage stats from over a month ago. I think changing the PU list would be very good now, because PU is the metagame of the month. I hope the PU list can update, because there's a certain pokemon I'm itching to use, but can't...
 
Well after playing this tier after it being part of the OM of the Month I learned quite a bit about this metagame.
I sort of found out that it's very easy to be successful in this tier if you use the top tier threats such as Golduck, Jumpluff etc. I made it into the top 10 quite easily with out much prediction involved, DC's and Time outs on my part
This tier wasn't as diverse as I had thought but it's rather enjoyable and I loved running dual poison with Arbok + Seviper. I found that they worked strangely well with one another
 

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haha good shit Dell. You have definitely shown that you have the ability to lead PU. Great job, looking forward to seeing more.
 
I've been playing this metagame a lot recently, and if I may put it brashly, would like to gain some improvements on my team currently. (Although revitalizing this specific thread doesn't hurt.)

My team is based around Rain Dance, and utilizes a few threats who IMO underrated. I would sincerely appreciate some comments!

Phione @ Damp Rock
Trait: Hydration
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Calm Nature
- Rain Dance
- Rest
- Scald
- Heal Bell
Beartic @ NeverMeltIce
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Aqua Jet
- Icicle Crash
- Swords Dance
- Stone Edge
Mawile @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Iron Head
- Substitute
- Metal Burst
- Baton Pass
Parasect @ Leftovers
Trait: Dry Skin
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature
- Spore
- Leech Seed
- Synthesis
- X-Scissor
Pelipper @ Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Hurricane
- Scald
- Roost
- Rain Dance
Camerupt @ Leftovers
Trait: Solid Rock
EVs: 252 SDef / 252 HP / 4 SAtk
Calm Nature
- Lava Plume
- Stealth Rock
- Earth Power
- Will-O-Wisp


My concerns currently are that it is too defensive; Mawile does not do anything but gain momentum(which is handy, but I'm unsure if there is a better set); Mawile's set is really guess work like really help me with that; Camerupt was only placed as a tentative choice to help beat Rotom-F; if the sets themselves may be bettered (especially concerning items and such).
 
You are right in that your team is very defensive; it is too defensive for a strategy that lasts 8 turns before costing you most of your momentum. Mawile doesn't seem to have much of a role on your team either, since it is at best a pivot. The fact that a standard Life Orb Golduck or Bulky SubCM Golduck can tear through so much of your team is also a major problem. The first thing I must say is that you should switch Mawile for standard Rain Dance Volbeat, who not only sets up Rain, but also provides a slow U-turn and provides Thunder Wave and Encore support to hinder Golduck a bit. Beartic wants Superpower to deal with anything that can take Icicle Crash and Aqua Jet as well. Parasect and Pelipper seem to be huge momentum killers, but I am loathe to suggest replacing both of them. Out of the two, Parasect seems to be the least useful to you since Leech Seed is much too slow for your team. In order to make some more use of the Rain, as well as provide another possible offensive check to Golduck, a Choice Scarf Raichu with Thunder looks to be one of a few possibilities. Pelipper should have an EV spread of 248 HP / 8 SpA / 252 SpD (why on earth are those 4 EVs in atk?) if you insist on being defensive (though I am in favor of maximizing power and then HP). For Phione, it should have at least 80 Speed EVs in order to outpace Adamant Rampardos so that you can Scald/Rain Dance before it hits you with Head Smash.

There are other ways you can go about this like putting rocks on Mawile and switching Camerupt for Volbeat instead, but this isn't a rate. This is just to point out that Rain teams need to be on the offensive side if they wish to be at their best potential.
 
You are right in that your team is very defensive; it is too defensive for a strategy that lasts 8 turns before costing you most of your momentum. Mawile doesn't seem to have much of a role on your team either, since it is at best a pivot. The fact that a standard Life Orb Golduck or Bulky SubCM Golduck can tear through so much of your team is also a major problem. The first thing I must say is that you should switch Mawile for standard Rain Dance Volbeat, who not only sets up Rain, but also provides a slow U-turn and provides Thunder Wave and Encore support to hinder Golduck a bit. Beartic wants Superpower to deal with anything that can take Icicle Crash and Aqua Jet as well. Parasect and Pelipper seem to be huge momentum killers, but I am loathe to suggest replacing both of them. Out of the two, Parasect seems to be the least useful to you since Leech Seed is much too slow for your team. In order to make some more use of the Rain, as well as provide another possible offensive check to Golduck, a Choice Scarf Raichu with Thunder looks to be one of a few possibilities. Pelipper should have an EV spread of 248 HP / 8 SpA / 252 SpD (why on earth are those 4 EVs in atk?) if you insist on being defensive (though I am in favor of maximizing power and then HP). For Phione, it should have at least 80 Speed EVs in order to outpace Adamant Rampardos so that you can Scald/Rain Dance before it hits you with Head Smash.

There are other ways you can go about this like putting rocks on Mawile and switching Camerupt for Volbeat instead, but this isn't a rate. This is just to point out that Rain teams need to be on the offensive side if they wish to be at their best potential.
Thank you for the suggestions; I will try out Volbeat as it seems to be perhaps the most crucial change; I will edit Beartic's moveset as Stone Edge was purely impromptu filler; I will consider Raichu as it does indeed appear useful (Although Parasect has been useful in dispatching various threats with Spore and stalling out difficulties such as Throh, Raichu may very well better the spot); My Pelipper spread was an accident (idk how it occurred) and I will change it posthaste; I will edit Phione with the speed changes (luckily I've yet to meet a Rampardos on the ladder); I must say, however, that my original intention was a halfstall halfbalanced FWG core-based team, but perhaps these changes will greatly benefit my ranking. I feel the only one I may regret is Raichu, as Paras is actually very good at breaking bulky cores (Arbok less than Throh, though it is capable against many other threats); Pelipper frail. I had not these in mind with the creation of this team, it simply fell into place - I will test out a few variations and then edit my post with additional responses. Thanks.

Edit(Both after testing lightly and in response)

I think it has become better thoroughly with the changes, though Phione's speed EV have yet to come in handy (Although no repurcussions were to be had; I'll likely keep it as is.). I've decided to swap Parasect and Mawile out for Raichu and Volbeat respectiviely, in accordance with your suggestions, and they do indeed function well; I feel it has improved excellently. I'm currently happy with it, thank you for the help.
 
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