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Glimmer: An Overview of Reflective Barriers and Usage
- Thread starter Yagami Light
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You don't get what I meant. TWaving a Yache-Garchomp could effectively mean gg, since no matter what you do, it's going to SD that that turn. Mamoswine cannot use that free turn to set up anythng. It won't obliterate teams, and random Pokemon can come in and kick it out next turn. I guess SR is an option, but that isn't really something that will worry the opponent enough to stop him running TWave, not in the same league as a Chomp SDing.
Setting up 8 turns of LS is completely different from setting up SR, and this is a good way to neutralise the threat of TWaving Blissey and get some Screens up.
Setting up 8 turns of LS is completely different from setting up SR, and this is a good way to neutralise the threat of TWaving Blissey and get some Screens up.
p.s. i would definitely switch rhyperior into electivire while you guys were having that misunderstanding. why wouldn't you? hpgrass is the only threat which is rare, whereas rhyperior's massive hp/def and solid rock makes ita bel to go into icepunch/cc/eq but more importantly, probably on the most likely used tbolt.
also if you twave the garchomp, just ib to get rid of yache and go on with your life. not that crucial guys..although one would wonder why no one ever ran any LS teams for yache garchomp to survive 2 ice attacks...intriguing..
also if you twave the garchomp, just ib to get rid of yache and go on with your life. not that crucial guys..although one would wonder why no one ever ran any LS teams for yache garchomp to survive 2 ice attacks...intriguing..
Come again? Stealth Rock, Reflect, Light Screen, Hail, Sandstorm and Rain Dance. What team support options does Electivire have? Light Screen, Rain Dance and....well, that's about it. Clearly Mamoswine has more versatility in the support department as it can do everything Electivire can and more, except perhaps Brick Break but that is rather situational. It's bulkier too with the massive HP, and is stronger physically with superior STABs, although Electivire runs mix sets a lot better.
Actually, Reflect would probably be better than Light Screen because after a Garchomp sets up (which is what it would have done if its Yache Berry was broken), the only Ice attack it's likely to need to dodge is Ice Shard. On top of that, most priority attacks are Physical.
If this is supposed to act as just a T-Wave immunity, why would I use this over Specs Jolteon? Hell, why would I use Electivire over any Jolteon?
The ability to get past Blissey with Cross Chop is in all honesty the only reason I would use Electivire over Jolteon :(
which is a poor reason, since Jolteon can just as easily Baton Pass immediately allowing you to set up your Lucario / Scizor / Machamp / Tar / Physical sweeper of choice. Electivire sucks, and this set is no different. Not to sound like a dick, but this thing is just outclassed in pretty much everything that it does. It doesn't sweep very well, it can't use both screens, meaning other screeners do better, and its frail as all hell. I'm still apalled that Electivire was ever OU to begin with.
Time has learnt us that things who are not balanced all around but not good at anything either tend to fail
Use Sweepers for sweeping and supporters for supporting, don't try to mix things cause they won't work
truer words have never been spoken. Light, Yagami= im a gay light.
That has nothing to do with anything though, Electivre isn't what I would consider a "good" pokemon any way since he really can't OHKO anything besides some sweepers, even then it's something risky to do. Getting an Electvire in only to make him set up reflect seems like a waste. Without Expert belt some of those OHKO's he's going for to don't happen. It just seems to gimmicky for my taste though.