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Guilty wins...

GoldenRifle

So there was this Super Smash Bros Brawl tournament where I live, I decided to participate in it.

So after registering, I await my first round. I'm matched up with a 10 year old boy who's handicap...

So I pretty much annihilate him and the kid starts crying. As if being 10 years old wasn't bad enough, he's also a God damn handicap. I try to cheer him up, saying he wasn't that bad and should have improved a bit. However he ends up leaving, with her mother carrying his wheelchair.

I hate it when stuff like that happens, almost always, whenever I win something, I feel bad for the loser because I know how they feel (I hardly win any competitions, I'm not just saying video games only). When I win, it's suppose to be my time to gloat, but I can hardly feel good about myself when the other guy starts fucking whining.

I'm pretty sure a lot of you guys would tell me to man up and say fuck other people emotion. But I'm just not that kind of person, nor do I think I can be.

Anyway, have any of you ever experienced a victory in which you couldn't enjoy because of your opponent? What's your take on victories like that?
 
Don't let it bother not to sound synical, but handicapped people are always saying they want to be treated equally that they are no worse off than fully-abled people; if they want that to be true they can wait in line like fully abled people, and lose like fully abled people.

No offense to any females, but they say there are no lesser, but get an attitude when you dont hold the door open for them, or don't give them the last seat on the bus, it just seems to me everyone wants the benefits of being treated differently, skips in line, opened door, pay for the bill, sympathy, but dont want to be looked down on. Just me, but either get looked down on, or dont accept the special treament, you cannot have both, just my opinion.

Unless you cheated or flaunted off your skills, no need to feel bad, facing people better than or worse than you is a part of life, he may be 10 yes , but im in classes with people far above my age some smarter other dopes when i do better i neither flaunt nor boost and neither do they, same goes for when i used to Play Yugioh in tournaments
 
I can understand your feelings regarding your win. Better that child lose to you than another who could of gave him a less than pleasant response. You should try not to feel so bad, the child though handicap is just trying to be as normal as possible by participating just like anyone else. It is a bit disheartening that he had such a reaction but I hope at least he can learn from the experience.

As for your last bit, I don't win often enough to remember an instance where I felt bad for my opponent for beating them.
 
Obi said:
Being in a wheelchair in no way lessens his ability to play Brawl.
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The thing is, he had a disfigured body (mostly with his hands, some being much more bigger and smaller then they should be).

Edit : It's possible that doesn't effect much, I can't confirm it, but I'm pretty sure it does.

I know the "right" thing to do is not caring, I remember when I lost my first major tournament, I cried and left fast like the same guy. But after awhile, I understood what I did was pretty immature and stupid.

Had people been really nice to me too much, I know I wouldn't be able to take a loss at all.
 
I honestly think it would be worse if you had let him win. Do you think someone wants to win because they are handicapped, even if you don't tell them that's why, or lose because you treat them as you would anyone else?
 
Mormoopid said:
I honestly think it would be worse if you had let him win. Do you think someone wants to win because they are handicapped, even if you don't tell them that's why, or lose because you treat them as you would anyone else?
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All the physically disabled people I've ever met -- and I'm klutzy as all fuck due to having almost no left eyesight remaining and neurological issues, etc. etc., anyway my mom gets carer's allowance for a disabled kid due to all my issues lol, and I agree --, would say this is entirely true.

Props to the kid for competing though. That honestly takes guts.

Anyway, the kid was ten -- when you're ten, you cry when you lose generally, able-bodied or not.
 
I once had to play a yugioh tcg game against this one down syndrome guy (like 14, his mom was there), who, no offense, really sucked.

The difference is, he didn't give two fucks that he lost, even though he had a pretty good deck, and I even spent some time with him after the tourney. So, it all worked out pretty well.
 
misaki-chi said:
Anyway, the kid was ten -- when you're ten, you cry when you lose generally, able-bodied or not.
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i think it's more than his age though, the kid probably was dreaming of doing great in the tourney and becoming great at something despite his circumstances. the loss probably meant more to him than it would to a regular ten year old, but obviously it's not gonna happen if it's not gonna happen.

The fact is though it was probably overall a good thing, since hopefully it helps him come to terms with his body.
He is going to face much more difficult challenges than losing a brawl match. The fact is he will be able to excel at something he becomes passionate at if he puts his will into it. i pray that he finds it.

tldr; this is no big deal and the only thing you should feel (heh, "should feel" what a silly phrase) is hope that he becomes wiser as a result.
 
You entered a tournament with the intent of winning. I'm sure he did the same. You won. He lost.
 
I wouldn't worry too much about the whole thing. It was a tournament, you both played to win, and what happened happened.
 
Mormoopid said:
I honestly think it would be worse if you had let him win.
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Agreed. Letting the kid win because of his handicap wouldn't benefit either of you, you'd be out and he'd probably be out as well, I'm guessing it gets more and more competitive as you finish rounds.

Life is full of disappointments, this kid had one, no big deal and I doubt it'll affect him.

Good luck on the tournament by the way.
 
this is kind of a good example of natural selection. he was disabled, he lost, you weren't, and you won. however unfair this may seem, it is how nature works.

it would also not have been any better if you had let him win, because in the second round, he would almost certainly lose. just my two cents.
 
uh that's how nature works and that's not how society works. if we can accommodate the differences of others, we do. to say that natural selection will run it's course on this child is incredibly cold. He, as all humans, has potential to become wise and useful.

Natural selection doesn't really apply, and when society "selects" a certain group over another, that's called prejudice and needs to be abolished =\
 
The fact the kid cried over it showed he genuinely believed he was good at this game or something, so if anything, you should have had the pleasure of defeating someone and opening their eyes to the reality that they are far worse than they are (or, if not pleasure, certainly not a negative feeling for showing someone the truth), unless you believe that lies that coddle weakness, in this case of both the mind and body, are a positive occurrence.
 
donovantx8 said:
No offense to any females, but they say there are no lesser, but get an attitude when you dont hold the door open for them, or don't give them the last seat on the bus, it just seems to me everyone wants the benefits of being treated differently, skips in line, opened door, pay for the bill, sympathy, but dont want to be looked down on. Just me, but either get looked down on, or dont accept the special treament, you cannot have both, just my opinion.
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I imagine if a woman bitched at you for holding the door open for her you'd say feminism has gone too far? What the hell is wrong with someone expecting you to hold a door open for them?
 
akuchi said:
I imagine if a woman bitched at you for holding the door open for her you'd say feminism has gone too far? What the hell is wrong with someone expecting you to hold a door open for them?
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Nothing i always let the Woman go first, when im exiting out a room, hold the door open, but i was just raised that way im just saying that sometimes Woman not all get mad when you do things for them, or get mad when you don't.
 
laronde said:
So there was this Super Smash Bros Brawl tournament where I live, I decided to participate in it.

So after registering, I await my first round. I'm matched up with a 10 year old boy who's handicap...

So I pretty much annihilate him and the kid starts crying. As if being 10 years old wasn't bad enough, he's also a God damn handicap. I try to cheer him up, saying he wasn't that bad and should have improved a bit. However he ends up leaving, with her mother carrying his wheelchair.

I hate it when stuff like that happens, almost always, whenever I win something, I feel bad for the loser because I know how they feel (I hardly win any competitions, I'm not just saying video games only). When I win, it's suppose to be my time to gloat, but I can hardly feel good about myself when the other guy starts fucking whining.

I'm pretty sure a lot of you guys would tell me to man up and say fuck other people emotion. But I'm just not that kind of person, nor do I think I can be.

Anyway, have any of you ever experienced a victory in which you couldn't enjoy because of your opponent? What's your take on victories like that?
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I know how you feel, I hit a guy who'd been bullying my friend and I felt worse for the bully who went off crying.
 
akuchi said:
I imagine if a woman bitched at you for holding the door open for her you'd say feminism has gone too far? What the hell is wrong with someone expecting you to hold a door open for them?
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The door thing? I actually like doing that for anyone even if they don't thank me or act like I'm not even there, cause it's polite and they can't say I'm a jerk all the time. I mean what's the big deal? I held the door open for you. I didn't save the world any. No medal, thanks.

There's nothing wrong with expecting it.

I wouldn't worry about guilty wins any. The kid had to have known he could have lost anyways.

Do you remember what character you were and what character he was? That could have made a difference in the outcome.
 
akuchi said:
I imagine if a woman bitched at you for holding the door open for her you'd say feminism has gone too far? What the hell is wrong with someone expecting you to hold a door open for them?
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In my town, Atlanta, Black people expect you to do everything for them, and if you don't, they accuse you of being racist. If you are in a hurry, and are running through the mall to catch the Marta or something, and you don't hold the door, they SPAZ out. : /
 
Epidemic said:
In my town, Atlanta, Black people expect you to do everything for them, and if you don't, they accuse you of being racist. If you are in a hurry, and are running through the mall to catch the Marta or something, and you don't hold the door, they SPAZ out. : /
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What a hilarious and false generalized statement. Yes. We also spaz out if you don't pull our pants up for us when we sag.
 
You are simply incredibly wrong, B-Rock. On a base level it is impolite to hold open the door because it reduces the time one can spend in life doing activities one wants by an extra few seconds most of the time. One should never stop and hold the door open for anyone when there is free flowing traffic (maybe an exception for cripples; I am assuming able people with working arms and working legs) because it is unnatural and stultifies the motion of both people. It is inefficient and rude, and I flip anyone who is not a hot lady off who does that to me because I like to walk quickly and not be hindered by idiots who have no idea to facilitate traffic correctly.
 
Misaki-chi said:
All the physically disabled people I've ever met -- and I'm klutzy as all fuck due to having almost no left eyesight remaining and neurological issues, etc. etc., anyway my mom gets carer's allowance for a disabled kid due to all my issues lol, and I agree --, would say this is entirely true.

Props to the kid for competing though. That honestly takes guts.

Anyway, the kid was ten -- when you're ten, you cry when you lose generally, able-bodied or not.
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I have the same problems as Misaki-chi, except they are more severe in some cases (or well, I think they might be, I can't be sure...). Agree with Misaki and Morm for the most part. You see, most people own me in sports and shit and then they brag about it, and insult me like hell (yes, the people I used to call my "friends"). Guess what? I didn't fucking cry, hell I didn't even say anything back. I took it like a man, and they lost a friend. Most people with disabilities and hardships in their lives are put so down by others and their friends that when they finally do have the guts to stand up, or do what they love, they just go into an even deeper whole thanks to this insanity we call humanity.
 
donovantx8 said:
Don't let it bother not to sound synical, but handicapped people are always saying they want to be treated equally that they are no worse off than fully-abled people; if they want that to be true they can wait in line like fully abled people, and lose like fully abled people.

No offense to any females, but they say there are no lesser, but get an attitude when you dont hold the door open for them, or don't give them the last seat on the bus, it just seems to me everyone wants the benefits of being treated differently, skips in line, opened door, pay for the bill, sympathy, but dont want to be looked down on. Just me, but either get looked down on, or dont accept the special treament, you cannot have both, just my opinion.

Unless you cheated or flaunted off your skills, no need to feel bad, facing people better than or worse than you is a part of life, he may be 10 yes , but im in classes with people far above my age some smarter other dopes when i do better i neither flaunt nor boost and neither do they, same goes for when i used to Play Yugioh in tournaments
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Mormoopid said:
I honestly think it would be worse if you had let him win. Do you think someone wants to win because they are handicapped, even if you don't tell them that's why, or lose because you treat them as you would anyone else?
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My thoughts, really.If I had the chance to not see my opponent at all or something of the like, I would definetily go for it, you shouldn't really give a fuck whether he's disabled or not.He got in the tourney KNOWING he might lose.
 
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