This post is mostly me going over everything again, knowing my biggest reads are now all dead.
Day 1 overview by page, filtering out jokes and not-serious votes when I can.
Page 1: RVS / LHF
Page 2: Neon says
Ehmcee and Haruno are
sorta-clear, but gambler's fallacy logic. I
go after Haruno for present-but-inactive.
Page 3: memeing. Also pulsar is new
Page 4: I suggest hypoclaiming future inspects. From memory, this is not agreed upon by many, and mostly not done. Zippy tries to paint a target on his own back, claiming he'd
go after someone he didn't play with and with a low post count. I disagree with the postcount thing, and zippy gets a little defensive.
Page 5:
Celever discusses my hypoclaim idea some. Poetry by others moving anything coming of it to another page.
Page 6:
Ehmcee doesn't get the hypoclaim AFTER inspecting standard strat. LS argues with Zippy.
Page 7: Zippy doubles down on
going after inactives despite the warnings that it's not a sound strategy.
Celever offers a deeper explanation of the game theory on who to vote.
Page 8: Zippy
triples down... gets a bit defensive. I remark on hero plays not working, referencing the painting a target from page 4.
Page 9: Zippy
goes after Haruno, I
follow. My list of 4 categories players fall in.
Celever defends Zippy's heroing.
Page 10: Stuff about the guy who ghosted us, and about Psy's absence being why there's 10 pages, not 100.
Page 11: Neon doing his chart that records reads thing. Skipper
townreads Celever and null reads Zippy.
Celever sort-of agrees with the logic, and then Zippy
scumreads Celever.
Page 12: Zippy elaborates on
scumreading Celever. Banter.
Celever asks Zippy thoughts on
Ehmcee. I KNEW that somewhere,
Celever asked me about my hypoclaim impending inspects thing, and here's where I notice it! I explain.
Page 13: More elaboration on the hypoclaim future thing.
Celever asks if anyone wants to read
Ehmcee.
Page 14: Neon gets a bit angry at pulsar. Feels like a joke, but it involved a vote, so I'm bringing it up.
Celever gets where my hypofuture thing is coming from, and politely disagrees. At time of review, I think this is where the topic mostly drops? Huh, I've seen a few posts from pulsar by now, but contributing less than
Haruno... part of why I
went after Haruno. Zippy arguing with people, seeming to miss some stuff.
Page 15: Huge "who to towncore with" post by
Celever. In retrospect, I think this might have been a slip that he's JOAT, but I didn't catch it until re-reading. I was trying to NOT guess so I couldn't slip it to the mafia. LS reads no less than 6 people as potential towncore, 2 each under 3 options. Pulsar, Neon,
Celever, me (AG), zippy,
haruno. Skipper
anti-cores me and Zippy.
Page 16:
Celever asks for elaboration on Skipper's hypotowncore. Also LS's.
Ehmcee indicates towncore with LS and
Celever, and sorta
scum-reads Zippy.
Page 17: Looks like Neon doesn't count a number of the reads already made. List is 6 entries long, and he remarks on it. Skipper explains his reads.
Celever remarks on how
I seem different this game. I'm marking as green there, because of my being mafia a lot, so different is good. Pulsar says
Celever and LS would be his core.
Page 18: Zippy remarks on LS's comment re:
Haruno's activity, and
Celever's read-ish on me.
Haruno speaks well of 2 non-players as well as
Ehmcee and Zippy.
Page 19: JALMONT subs in. Banter.
Page 20: Banter. Neon
votes Zippy.
Celever makes a huge case against Ehmcee.
Page 21: Neon
votes Ehmcee.
Celever hounds people for opinions on his case
against Ehmcee. Pulsar
votes Ehmcee. Zippy seems
a bit against the new
Ehmcee wagon? I indicate I could
follow the wagon on
Ehmcee, but want a votecount first.
Page 22:
Celever notes some contingent meta reads on active players. JALMONT
votes Haruno. I give a huge reads list, too much to recount all in this summary, have a
link to the post. From my
vote list at the time, skipper is next. JALMONT
townreads Zippy and
Celever.
Celever remarks on my opinions on both idlers and on
Haruno. Going from memory and not looking forward, this is part of my 4 categories thing on page 9.
Celever asks for skipper reads.
Page 23: skipper
joins the wagon on
Ehmcee. Huge reads list,
have another link.
Page 24:
Ehmcee's response to
Celever's
case. Ah, here's where I refer back to page 9 (per the summary of page 22). My reasoning for my reads list was based on active solving, and the activity thing was just a correlation. I'm down for
voting either Ehmcee or Haruno.
Ehmcee votes Haruno.
Celever asks for responses to
Ehmcee's response. Pulsar's
fine with both Zippy and
Haruno, but
NOT with Ehmcee.
Page 25: Pulsar thinks Zippy has been
creeping up as mafia candidate. LS is
against both wagons on
Ehmcee and Haruno. Prefers one as a better shot. I'm
against skipper, pulsar, and
Ehmcee. In that order.
Celever unvotes Ehmcee, to Zippy's confusion. Given the vig kill, I think I can guess why, now.
Page 26: Neon and JALMONT
vote each other.
Page 27: Zippy
votes JALMONT. I switch
from Haruno to Ehmcee. Brief but complete
reads list from Celever, who then remarks on how
Haruno's posting didn't improve like I thought.
Page 28:
Ehmcee votes me. Just noting, he died to the JOAT. Not sure what to make of Celever's chart of interactions because I have no idea what criteria were used to make it. I admit my error re:
Haruno. Neon
votes Zippy. LS
votes Ehmcee.
Ehmcee townreads Zippy, Neon,
Celever. Pulsar is
against Ehmcee, Jalmont, and LS.
Page 29: A No Vote wagon starts. Banter.
Page 30: A whole page of banter, mostly.
Page 31: LS miscalculates evens as LYLO/CYLO, when it's actually just MYLO.
Celever brings up vig shot. DANGIT CELEVER! In Matrices, you were only discernable as a power role when you outed yourself to clear our vote target. Seriously, looking back, I feel like your death was Death Note NOC all over again!
Page 32:
Celever and Zippy
vote Ehmcee.
Celever and LS then
unvote because vote-1.
Page 33: Getting close to EoD madness.
Celever votes me; Jalmont
votes skipper.
Zippy's list, in descending goodness. LS
switches to Haruno.
Page 34: JALMONT and Zippy
vote me, then Zippy. Original vote on me was for my suggestion of a no vote, which was later explained as worsening mafia odds of hitting JOAT or someone getting greenchecked.
Page 35: Pulsar votes
Zippy, then
Ehmcee. Votes on Skipper and Zippy, though those are later removed.
Page 36: Forgot this wasn't just wrap-up.
EoD vote chaos between
Haruno and Ehmcee.
Things to note:
1) I will never learn that this is a time sink that doesn't do as much as it costs in time.
2) of the remaining players, skipper and Zippy seem to look the most odd to me, from this. Some of this is gut, some of it is early-game behavior... I guess they're rubbing me the wrong way?
3) LS seems a bit indecisive, but trying. Neon seems to be being Neon.
4) JALMONT seems to have lower posts, but dense contribution.
5) Pulsar has low contribution.
6) It was a TvT wagon, so a bunch of "voted town" stuff should probably be discarded.
My reads:
me-tier: me (AG)
Town: JALMONT, LS, Neon
final vote: Pulsar. If not Zippy, then probably him.
scummy: skipper, Zippy.
vote ZippyDoo200
Most information, least odds of town IMO. Can be persuaded to go for skipper first.
