Landorus (Analysis)

Blue_Star said:
Wouldn't an adamant nature be better on the rock polish landorus? It already outspeeds a lot of crap with 602 speed...
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When using Landorus, you NEED a +Speed nature.
Why? To beat Base-100s on Turn 1. 602 may be fast, but 301 is not worth losing to the likes of Jolly Salamence and other Base-100s.

Base-101 is a fantastic Speed Tier and should be abused at all times when using Landorus (like Garchomp's Base-102).
 
Doom Chaos said:
When using Landorus, you NEED a +Speed nature.
Why? To beat Base-100s on Turn 1. 602 may be fast, but 301 is not worth losing to the likes of Jolly Salamence and other Base-100s.

Base-101 is a fantastic Speed Tier and should be abused at all times when using Landorus (like Garchomp's Base-102).
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also 602 loses to jolly doryuuzu
 
Unless i missed something i think the sub , eq , stone edge , hp ice set needs to go in there. Its one of the most solid set in defeating the most popular sand cores.
 
CB Lando was mentioned in OO:
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<p>With 115 Special Attack and a respectable special movepool, a specially-based moveset can be used as a lure of sorts, luring in many of Landorus's normal counters and taking them down. A mixed set consisting of Earthquake, Stone Edge, Hidden Power Ice, and Grass Knot can act as a great partner for Excadrill, destroying many of Excadrill's checks and counters. Landorus also learns Bulk Up and, oddly enough, Calm Mind, but the lack of any form of recovery besides Leftovers hurts either moves' viability. Landorus can also make use of a Choice Band to boost his already great Attack to ridiculous levels. For example, Hippowdon takes 47.4% - 56% from a Choice Band Earthquake, an assured 2HKO with a layer of Spikes. Landorus also learns Explosion, but the effective damage reduction it received this generation makes it an undesirable option. With access to Swords Dance and Rock Polish, Landorus can run a double dance set, but Terrakion pulls this off slightly better due to better coverage with its STABs attacks.</p>
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Just a little nitpick, when you mention that Bronzong, Virizon and Breloom are the only ones to resist Ground/Rock, you should mention thats they're the only ones that resist in OU. In other tiers Flygon, Claydol and Torterra also resist that combination.
 
You need to include Sand Force as the primary ability in the ability slot for all sets.

Rock Polish really isn't as viable as it used to be, especially compared to the Swords Dance set. The sets should be reordered like this: Swords Dance > Choice Scarf > Rock Polish.

I would de-slash Rock Slide from all sets and instead mention Smack Down as a lower powered, more accurate alternative Rock move (except for on the Scarf set). Smack Down lets Landorus beat Skarmory and Bronzong, who would otherwise wall it, and is especially good combined with hazards.

I think Hidden Power Ice should be slashed in the fourth slot of the Swords Dance set (ahead of U-turn) and be the primary option in the fourth slot of the Choice Scarf set. It's not that hard to wear down Gliscor via residual damage; furthermore, severely damaging Gliscor is important to certain teams, especially ones that pair Landorus with Excadrill / Terrakion / etc., so the fact that it doesn't OHKO isn't that important. Gliscor is significant enough a threat to Landorus for Hidden Power Ice to be a primary option.

A Substitute + 3 attack set might be worthy of mention (Substitute / Earthquake / Smack Down / Hidden Power Ice); more QC input is welcome on this.
 
Franky ran a Substitute + 3 attack set on his 2k RMT and had great success with it (leading to its increased usage). I have used it myself and it's definitely a good set, so I also support adding the set.

name: Substitute + 3 Attacks
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Stone Edge / Smack Down
move 3: Substitute
move 4: Hidden Power Ice
item: Leftovers
nature: Naive
evs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe

If anyone else objects to the addition of this set, then I suppose a mention in OO would be sufficient. Also agreeing with everything else Eo covered.
 
There REALLY should be a double dance set, it can handle both offense and stall easily ESPECIALLY because there is no real option other than sub on the swords dance set. rock polish would fit there easily.
 
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