Little correction in Scarf Frillish set, in "Moves," remove Chinchou from the "Grass-types that resist Water Spout."
Unfortunately, it has been known that it's the same case as Type: Null; it's only obtainable at level 40, and it can't breed.WAIT. Will POIPOLE be allowed in LC? :O Altho, he seems like total ass. He's got no way to counter Steel-types, despite his high offense stats, unlike Naganadel, who gets Fire Blast.
Shame. I liked Fomantis...Snivy getting Defog makes the current Fomantis analysis entirely obsolete, since Snivy is now capable of running the same moves and has better bulk and Speed. Should probably be taken down (or replaced with a different set if someone manages to find a different niche for Fomantis).
I don't know where you are getting Happy Hour from. From what I can see, it doesn't look usable at Level 5. If you are implying that endeavor + rocks + priority is it's niche, that role is performed better (believe it or not) by Swinub, which has slightly lower defenses so is more likely to activate Endeavor and has more reliable priority to finish the job. That said, this niche is iffy at best, and I'm not saying Swinub deserves an analysis for it either. If you want just a general SR+endeavor user, Aron is easily the best because of its access to sturdy.IMO Rockruff, despite being really bad in SM due to the lack of a setup move (aside from Howl, i guess) and Accelrock, now has somewhat of a niche with the introduction of Happy Hour and Sucker Punch into its movepool - the former providing a decent setup move, and the latter giving Rockruff a solid priority move. To preface this, I am not implying that Rockruff is a underlooked S+ tier, it's still somewhat average in practice, but this niche gives it enough to at least warrant an analysis. A sample set I'd say is:
Rockruff @ Normalium Z
Ability: Own Tempo
EVs: 236 Atk / 36 Def / 212 Spe
- Happy Hour
- Stone Edge
- Fire Fang
- Sucker Punch
EDIT: man, forgot the event came at level 10. rockruff is still terrible but it has sucker punch now, mb.
EDIT 2: It does get a niche in USUM though, suicide lead that gets Rocks up and it also gets Endeavor to dish some chip and Sucker Punch to clean it up if it lives that long.
Yep, I noted that in my first edit. Interesting for the latter - I didn't know Aron outright outclassed Ruff.I don't know where you are getting Happy Hour from. From what I can see, it doesn't look usable at Level 5. If you are implying that endeavor + rocks + priority is it's niche, that role is performed better (believe it or not) by Swinub, which has slightly lower defenses so is more likely to activate Endeavor and has more reliable priority to finish the job. That said, this niche is iffy at best, and I'm not saying Swinub deserves an analysis for it either. If you want just a general SR+endeavor user, Aron is easily the best because of its access to sturdy.
Tldr, I don't think rockruff is deserving of an analysis at this time
I think this was just poor wording and that the EV spread is good (could be wrong here, not exactly super experienced with bronzor), I edited the description to better suit the spread. Thanks for the feedback!The lack of HP investment on the currently uploaded Bronzor analysis is puzzling to me. Bronzor is a Pokemon with low HP in comparison to its Defense and Special Defense, so it benefits greatly from HP investment, but this has not been done. Set Details states that the goal was to maximize physical bulk, in which case the spread used should be 220 HP / 4 Atk / 228 Def / 4 SpA / 12 Spe, which is objectively bulkier on the physical side in granting stats of 25 HP / 19 Def over 23 HP / 19 Def. Even using a spread which maximizes overall bulk of 220 HP / 4 Atk / 100 Def / 4 SpA / 148 SpD / 12 Spe grants more physical bulk than the currently uploaded spread:
- 196+ Atk Grimer-Alola Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 64 HP / 228+ Def Bronzor: 20-26 (86.9 - 113%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
- 196+ Atk Grimer-Alola Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 220 HP / 228+ Def Bronzor: 20-26 (80 - 104%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
- 196+ Atk Grimer-Alola Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 220 HP / 100+ Def Bronzor: 24-30 (96 - 120%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
- 196 SpA Gastly Shadow Ball vs. 64 HP / 148 SpD Bronzor: 20-26 (86.9 - 113%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
- 196 SpA Gastly Shadow Ball vs. 220 HP / 148 SpD Bronzor: 20-26 (80 - 104%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
Littens still not really viable at all. It's basically a worse Growlithe, which is a worse Ponyta. I guess at the time I thought it'd be better than it is. I don't think we'll be giving it an analysis.
im not a qc member myself, but goomy is not a viable pokemon in the lc tier. as a wall, it has no reliable recovery, forcing it to use rest as a source of recovery, and poor base stats, especially defense, hindering its ability to take contact moves, contradicting its ability gooey. and while yes, goomy has sap sipper to make it immune to grass moves from pokemon like foongus and snivy, it has lackluster attacking stats making it very passive (it doesnt even learn flamethrower or fire blast to threaten foongus). theres really no reason to use goomy over other defensive mons like foongus and ferroseed, who have better defensive stats and an actual movepool to back themselves up, which is why it most likely will not get an analysis. its nice to see new users like you willing to contribute to the site; welcome to smogon and stick around in lc.Pokemon: Goomy With Gooey
Role: Slows down opposing pokemon and stalls
Format: LC SM
Thanks for catching this. Just updated the analysis.In Abra's Focus Sash set, the immediate export set runs 240 SpA and 200 Spe, even though it runs no Hidden Power. Potentially set the default to 236 SpA/76 SpD/196 Spe (cuz rip defense anyway) and say in Set details to change EVs if a Hidden Power is run.