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SPOILERS! Legends ZA Data Dumps - Adding Info to OP
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Supposedly this is a list of scrubbed dex entrees, possibly indicating what could be making the cut for the dlc:
(But note, some oddities, like missing evos/pre-evos)
(But note, some oddities, like missing evos/pre-evos)
List of pokemon that have blank dex entries
PLA:
kleavor
wyrdeer
gen 8:
morepeko
indeedee
runerigus
mr rime
sirfetch'd
perrserker
grapploct
clobbopus
toxtricity
toxel
thievul
nickit
corviknight
corvisquire
rookidee
LGPE:
melmetal
meltan
gen 7:
zeraora
marshadow
magearna
mimikyu
palossand
sandygast
golisopod
wimpod
crabominable
crabrawler
gen 5:
genesect
meloetta
keldeo
virizion
terrakion
cobalion
golurk
golett
cryogonal
amoongus
foongus
cofagrigus
yamask
sawk
throh
musharna
muuna
liepard
purrloin
gen 4:
darkrai
heatran
rotom
porygon-z
mime jr
chingling
staraptor
staravia
starly
gen 3:
rayquaza
groudon
kyogre
latios
latias
chimecho
kekleon
milotic
feebass
seviper
zangoose
grumpig
spoink
swalot
gulpin
swampert
marshtomp
mudkip
blaziken
combusken
torchic
sceptile
grovile
treecko
gen 2:
porygon2
quilfish
igglybuff
crobat
gen 1:
porygon
mr mime
marowak
cubone
farfetch'd
primeape
mankey
persian
meowth
golbat
zubat
wigglytuff
jigglypuff
PLA:
kleavor
wyrdeer
gen 8:
morepeko
indeedee
runerigus
mr rime
sirfetch'd
perrserker
grapploct
clobbopus
toxtricity
toxel
thievul
nickit
corviknight
corvisquire
rookidee
LGPE:
melmetal
meltan
gen 7:
zeraora
marshadow
magearna
mimikyu
palossand
sandygast
golisopod
wimpod
crabominable
crabrawler
gen 5:
genesect
meloetta
keldeo
virizion
terrakion
cobalion
golurk
golett
cryogonal
amoongus
foongus
cofagrigus
yamask
sawk
throh
musharna
muuna
liepard
purrloin
gen 4:
darkrai
heatran
rotom
porygon-z
mime jr
chingling
staraptor
staravia
starly
gen 3:
rayquaza
groudon
kyogre
latios
latias
chimecho
kekleon
milotic
feebass
seviper
zangoose
grumpig
spoink
swalot
gulpin
swampert
marshtomp
mudkip
blaziken
combusken
torchic
sceptile
grovile
treecko
gen 2:
porygon2
quilfish
igglybuff
crobat
gen 1:
porygon
mr mime
marowak
cubone
farfetch'd
primeape
mankey
persian
meowth
golbat
zubat
wigglytuff
jigglypuff
>Mega Golisopod and all 3 Alola Mythicals
Nope, too much kino. I cannot handle it. Nothing Ever Happens until further notice
Nope, too much kino. I cannot handle it. Nothing Ever Happens until further notice
Wait a minute jesus christ Flygon isn't in this list either
Neither is Alolan Rattata lines and Spinda, so I guess not even the DLC is letting them out. They really are just staying Homebound throughout all of the Switch 1 era.
weird that Wyrdeer is on this list but Stantler isn't - same with how Mankey and Primeape are here, but not Annihilape
Hmmmmm
I think, maybe, the dex entries might indicate plans for the DLC? I noticed some odd ones while glancing through.
here's just a quick example
3897817518926B8A ZKN_COMMENT_A_035_000 The moonlight that it stores in the wings on its\nback apparently gives it the ability to float in\nmidair.
557F6B55CED593F3 ZKN_COMMENT_A_036_000 A timid fairy Pokémon that is rarely seen, it will\nrun and hide the moment it senses people.
900FA7DBA1C58845 msg_89b7207ba135ac34ab40c77c08d8e235 [~ 37]
85F65A1A46AA781D msg_ddc7ae24a10026bec8c265b1adf33d35 [~ 38]
C30DC411DDB25338 msg_723bae366d2af607637f30676ee3ca3f
EC8BB7A1A102229D msg_b4722e716ee2f18e02b199e4a6553c92
AFE7380CF99FF0BA msg_3dab6dec70a597f9652645ea698f73e1
19BE3CFA8ECAA145 msg_e4d690df2a8cacbc31390e0ddd157188
BDC06C7D8A4FDAC1 msg_d70f4ad52087d9862c790a3036dfd34f [~ 43]
You can see Clefair & Clefable get the SKN Comment. Obviously, since they're in the game
Then you have the place holders for Vulpix & Ninetales. They're not in the game. The msg_garbage is a place holder for the actual zkn_comment that isnt there and [~37] is for the text.
But then, between Ninetales & Oddish are the Jigglypuff & Zubat lines and they don't have the [~##]
I went through the whole thing. There's about 130 of these instances among the normal Pokemon numbering. The thing that got me to really bother looking into this was noticing:
1. that the hoenn starters & the hoenn legend megas also had this treatment
2. That Zeraora, Heatran & Darkrai all had this treatment and we know they have mega stones stubbed out
So, well, I just took a look through them.
For everything up through SWSH, it's like this
After that is
899 Wyrdeer
900 Kleavor
But that seems a bit odd. There's no Stantler stub and Kleavor if anything should be here already but isn't. And Qwilfish is present earlier in the list, but Overqwil isnt even though the other regional evolutions are accounted for.
The Gen 9 part of the list is also kind of odd. I only saw stubs go up through 1005 rather than at least 1008 Koraidon (after that its the megas) and it's kind of cutting off some of the evolution lines.
919 Nymble
920 Lokix
926 Fidough no Dachsbun?
933 Naclstack no Nacli?
934 Garganacl
944 Shroodle
945 Grafaiai
946 Bramblin
947 Brambleghast
948 Toedscool No Toedscruel?
955 Flittle
956 Espathra
958 Tinkatuff No tinkatink?
959 Tinkaton
960 Wiglett
961 Wugtroi
962 Bombirdier
963 Finizen
964 Palafin
965 Varoom
966 Revavroom
967 Cyclizar
968 Orthworm
971 Greavard
972 Houndstone
995 Iron Thorns
996 Frigibax
997 Baxcalibur
998 Arctibax
999 Gimmighoul
1000 Gholdengo
1005? Roaring Moon?
And it's odd there's no Annihilape even though Mankey & Primeape were marked off. Maybe this is partially aligned with the "internal order" instead of the dex order like the rest of the list?
Anyway this could mean nothing. We're really good at finding patterns where there are none, after all. But I thought worth bringing up
e: Oh my god literally posts up smeone already brought it up while I was writing this for the last 30 minutes fml
I think, maybe, the dex entries might indicate plans for the DLC? I noticed some odd ones while glancing through.
here's just a quick example
3897817518926B8A ZKN_COMMENT_A_035_000 The moonlight that it stores in the wings on its\nback apparently gives it the ability to float in\nmidair.
557F6B55CED593F3 ZKN_COMMENT_A_036_000 A timid fairy Pokémon that is rarely seen, it will\nrun and hide the moment it senses people.
900FA7DBA1C58845 msg_89b7207ba135ac34ab40c77c08d8e235 [~ 37]
85F65A1A46AA781D msg_ddc7ae24a10026bec8c265b1adf33d35 [~ 38]
C30DC411DDB25338 msg_723bae366d2af607637f30676ee3ca3f
EC8BB7A1A102229D msg_b4722e716ee2f18e02b199e4a6553c92
AFE7380CF99FF0BA msg_3dab6dec70a597f9652645ea698f73e1
19BE3CFA8ECAA145 msg_e4d690df2a8cacbc31390e0ddd157188
BDC06C7D8A4FDAC1 msg_d70f4ad52087d9862c790a3036dfd34f [~ 43]
You can see Clefair & Clefable get the SKN Comment. Obviously, since they're in the game
Then you have the place holders for Vulpix & Ninetales. They're not in the game. The msg_garbage is a place holder for the actual zkn_comment that isnt there and [~37] is for the text.
But then, between Ninetales & Oddish are the Jigglypuff & Zubat lines and they don't have the [~##]
I went through the whole thing. There's about 130 of these instances among the normal Pokemon numbering. The thing that got me to really bother looking into this was noticing:
1. that the hoenn starters & the hoenn legend megas also had this treatment
2. That Zeraora, Heatran & Darkrai all had this treatment and we know they have mega stones stubbed out
So, well, I just took a look through them.
For everything up through SWSH, it's like this
39 Jigglypuff
40 Wigglytuff
41 Zubat
42 Golbat
52 Meowth
53 Persian
56 Mankey
57 Primeape
83 Farfetch’d
104 Cubone
105 Marowak
122 Mr Mime
137 Porygon
169 Crobat
174 Igglybuff
211 Qwilfish
233 Porygon2
252 Treecko
253 Grovyle
254 Sceptile
255 Torchic
256 Combusken
257 Blaziken
258 Mudkip
259 Marshtomp
260 Swampert
316 Gulpin
317 Swalot
325 Spoink
326 Grumpig
335 Zangoose
336 Seviper
349 Feebas
350 Milotic
352 Kecleon
358 Chimecho
380 Latias
381 Latios
382 Kyogre
383 Groudon
384 Rayquaza
396 Starly
397 Staravia
398 Staraptor
433 Chingling
439 Mime jr
474 Porygon-Z
479 Rotom
485 Heatran
491 Darkrai
510 Purrloin
511 Liepard
517 Munna
518 Musharna
538 Throh
539 Sawk
562 Yamask
563 Cofagrigus
590 Foongus
591 Amoonguss
615 Cryogonal
622 Golett
623 Golurk
638 Cobalion
639 Terrakion
640 Virizion
647 Keldeo
648 Meloetta
649 Genesect
739 Crabrawler
740 Crabominable
767 Wimpod
768 Golisopod
769 Sandygast
770 Palossand
778 Mimikyu
801 Magearna
802 Marshadow
807 Zeraora
808 Meltan
809 Melmetal
821 Rookidee
822 Corvisquire
823 Corviknight
827 Nickit
828 Thievul
848 Toxel
849 Toxtricity
852 Clobbopus
853 Grapploct
863 Perrserker
865 Sirfetchd
866 Mr Rime
867 Runerigus
876 Milcery
877 Alcremie
40 Wigglytuff
41 Zubat
42 Golbat
52 Meowth
53 Persian
56 Mankey
57 Primeape
83 Farfetch’d
104 Cubone
105 Marowak
122 Mr Mime
137 Porygon
169 Crobat
174 Igglybuff
211 Qwilfish
233 Porygon2
252 Treecko
253 Grovyle
254 Sceptile
255 Torchic
256 Combusken
257 Blaziken
258 Mudkip
259 Marshtomp
260 Swampert
316 Gulpin
317 Swalot
325 Spoink
326 Grumpig
335 Zangoose
336 Seviper
349 Feebas
350 Milotic
352 Kecleon
358 Chimecho
380 Latias
381 Latios
382 Kyogre
383 Groudon
384 Rayquaza
396 Starly
397 Staravia
398 Staraptor
433 Chingling
439 Mime jr
474 Porygon-Z
479 Rotom
485 Heatran
491 Darkrai
510 Purrloin
511 Liepard
517 Munna
518 Musharna
538 Throh
539 Sawk
562 Yamask
563 Cofagrigus
590 Foongus
591 Amoonguss
615 Cryogonal
622 Golett
623 Golurk
638 Cobalion
639 Terrakion
640 Virizion
647 Keldeo
648 Meloetta
649 Genesect
739 Crabrawler
740 Crabominable
767 Wimpod
768 Golisopod
769 Sandygast
770 Palossand
778 Mimikyu
801 Magearna
802 Marshadow
807 Zeraora
808 Meltan
809 Melmetal
821 Rookidee
822 Corvisquire
823 Corviknight
827 Nickit
828 Thievul
848 Toxel
849 Toxtricity
852 Clobbopus
853 Grapploct
863 Perrserker
865 Sirfetchd
866 Mr Rime
867 Runerigus
876 Milcery
877 Alcremie
After that is
899 Wyrdeer
900 Kleavor
But that seems a bit odd. There's no Stantler stub and Kleavor if anything should be here already but isn't. And Qwilfish is present earlier in the list, but Overqwil isnt even though the other regional evolutions are accounted for.
The Gen 9 part of the list is also kind of odd. I only saw stubs go up through 1005 rather than at least 1008 Koraidon (after that its the megas) and it's kind of cutting off some of the evolution lines.
919 Nymble
920 Lokix
926 Fidough no Dachsbun?
933 Naclstack no Nacli?
934 Garganacl
944 Shroodle
945 Grafaiai
946 Bramblin
947 Brambleghast
948 Toedscool No Toedscruel?
955 Flittle
956 Espathra
958 Tinkatuff No tinkatink?
959 Tinkaton
960 Wiglett
961 Wugtroi
962 Bombirdier
963 Finizen
964 Palafin
965 Varoom
966 Revavroom
967 Cyclizar
968 Orthworm
971 Greavard
972 Houndstone
995 Iron Thorns
996 Frigibax
997 Baxcalibur
998 Arctibax
999 Gimmighoul
1000 Gholdengo
1005? Roaring Moon?
And it's odd there's no Annihilape even though Mankey & Primeape were marked off. Maybe this is partially aligned with the "internal order" instead of the dex order like the rest of the list?
Anyway this could mean nothing. We're really good at finding patterns where there are none, after all. But I thought worth bringing up
e: Oh my god literally posts up smeone already brought it up while I was writing this for the last 30 minutes fml
my guess is they were just in from building off PLA.
i literally made an account like 5 minutes ago cause i also noticed this and wanted to tell someone so you're not alone lol
anyway it might be possible to predict exactly what gets a mega by looking at the gaps between the alternate form dex entries at the end of the text dump (which is where all the mega entries are). some scrubbed stuff corresponds to pokemon that don't have any alts with dex entries. not all of them are fully evolved though, so i might be on to nothing. either that or we're getting mega wynaut
I do wanna discuss something that caught my eye a bit - how despite AZ being a central part of ZA's plot, you can't use any of the Pokemon he fought the player with back in XY: those being Torkoal, Golurk, and Sigilyph
Personally, the dex feels a bit too small, so I think adding Torkoal, Golett, Golurk, and Sigilyph into the ZA dex pads it out a bit more. Also, it's odd that Rotom is in the phones but not obtainable in the wild in ZA - granted it was the same with the Rotom Dex in Sun and Moon, so I don't think it's too big of a deal, but personally, I'd say that Torkoal, Golett, Golurk, Sigilyph, and Rotom should have been in the ZA dex.
Personally, the dex feels a bit too small, so I think adding Torkoal, Golett, Golurk, and Sigilyph into the ZA dex pads it out a bit more. Also, it's odd that Rotom is in the phones but not obtainable in the wild in ZA - granted it was the same with the Rotom Dex in Sun and Moon, so I don't think it's too big of a deal, but personally, I'd say that Torkoal, Golett, Golurk, Sigilyph, and Rotom should have been in the ZA dex.
Yeah I also saw all those alt form scrubs, but trying to sort out forms was a bit of a mess
1432 5FA7171C8D9E7032 ZKN_COMMENT_A_870_001 Mega Falinks has taken on the ultimate battle\nformation, which can be achieved only if the\ntroopers and brass have the strongest of bonds.
1433 4C7AC95F90FE0E83 msg_8b8f159af2f31572425b40438ac28499 [~ 1433]
1434 5247D4F2AB92AE57 msg_5e676dfa3127bdfc06e5eca085122ebf
1435 E6EE002580603239 msg_ccae8ea6b306774623aa90c1b8e78641
1436 71D298EADBEAD6B9 msg_b17413c15f6cea92a73e1ba2e8ddd934 [~ 1436]
1437 58C47B303701A520 msg_994d1e4052b75b6358de338927f2e5dc [~ 1437]
1438 0ADF54A74286C2C6 msg_f98feb1a7bb20cc2399e7b784b578ff8 [~ 1438]
1439 988A4061DBF8DAFA msg_1f3cd0de73d09884393f8a5280526d13 [~ 1439]
1440 1B1C28606A76B8A9 msg_346f30f4e344de1aaa8f20015c4c7257 [~ 1440]
1441 BE1849AA3650258B msg_e7df6e73519ff818672ccd8119336014 [~ 1441]
1442 A7CB6FFDA3E69E7E msg_8360fe4e67656701b8ba2ad79a629604 [~ 1442]
1443 A7BC47D89AEE4DEC msg_c4af6aef61a61a3a39765ca7732bdfac [~ 1443]
1444 8DAE989B6228DC33 msg_2ec6417a549e9c136bb5ca9e49314831 [~ 1444]
1445 150E48866F5B1C23 msg_b91d976d9fb95f35b2e837cc5aaef50a [~ 1445]
1446 A31BD04594902ECA msg_14a9f1a7f84289f1cb2f1180d52c22b4 [~ 1446]
1447 1970314096E61733 msg_39a52f9173e093b7961174088e3ce253 [~ 1447]
1448 B4DD1F8B2E60DE84 msg_7fe7e6870214c6b14c6dc93db585c2ce [~ 1448]
1449 D0BFDBACE40A0AE3 msg_3cc05d26ad620a90474e38b195381a13 [~ 1449]
1450 7CF111E522A96EC2 msg_cf960cbabb4ef7a5c231b17718ff38be [~ 1450]
1451 A1A170D6F4F6FD6C msg_c00b196fb58f88ac20900534eb2f4243
1452 CE5FD8C28E424851 msg_4f0822987b1b4f712217bdf57cb97edc [~ 1452]
1453 4E76AC18EE76158C msg_a3f8add43890871db96d36439859cdb9
1454 263DFD791DA4947F msg_ce108337a5cb5836549307d777c77276
1455 EDEBD1A126DDF3E6 msg_cd6ac2aadc3adc26deabf024f2dcc903
1456 4C95E68467394D2F msg_3d2321e7b4d5a16354cdbbdfafb364bc
1457 D180BB18FD45D36E msg_9a4110ff1448ce168d1f6ca35c578ca9
1458 BC55F4DC9CB1D33B msg_6b159b99d4ec91d654ddacf3b6a18081
1459 E78307AC0C56502D msg_210c9d515bb76959bb123bb568d8b76f
1460 1C911B8305E74178 msg_9b8fca23fe19ea6f2abf9656ade3022d
1461 3C8581B60A8AFF69 msg_ba2267b197134543d101313193efc5c5
1462 1509521C886716D1 msg_2bd23c1f7a79ff3c1ea453f2e12ac47a
1463 F703EA3C0C1629F7 msg_6ddcfd15761575ae3b23f198982280ed
1464 4F2FDC5F1EEA5AF4 msg_c5491601bfa83d2e72930a8a16307a51 [~ 1464]
1465 F533621F6C612128 msg_23ee98527cdb4be4d26ddbd457140079 [~ 1465]
like look at this chunk at the end alone! Way too much to mess with and it assumes all the gen 8 stuff is in dex order and who knows how anything in gen 9 pans out when the list was already truncated (maybe??) and out of order (possibly??)
more megas
I'm trying to not look into story spoilers but knowing that AZ actually dies raises my expectations for it tremendously
I had that lsit on hand while tracking codenames so I dug it out. But it also went to 1010 (Annihlape) and followign the order would be even more awkward. 919 would be Spidops and 920 would be Nymble as example
With Mega Skarmory I guess you could stay in base to try and get weak armor boost, Mega after and try to work, hopefully they change how acrobatics works with Mega Stones, doesn't have enough hp to spam brave bird and we already have star raptor that could achieve what Mega skarmory does.