not usually super open with irl stuff on smogon, but I’m coming out as bi. Found out around start of this month woohoo
hey, there was a bit of discussion regarding lgbtq+ theory earlier on this page and i kind of wanted to bring that up again. personally i’ve had a hard time knowing where to start when it comes to this— the only “mainstream” theorist i’ve heard of is judith butler whom i have heard can be inaccessible at times. i feel like others are in the same boat of getting all their knowledge from youtubers like contrapoints and philosophy tube, who are still great but can’t fully replace actual books.
so mostly i had 2 questions for this thread:
thanks!
- which theory books/essays do you recommend?
- what types of ideas does lgbtq+ theory generally cover? earlier on this page that article about experiences as a nonwhite lgbtq+ person and the discussion of how “coming out” is treated in contemporary society was really thought-provoking and made me think about stuff i’d never really paid any mind to before. it’s like there’s a whole new world of ideas out there so i would appreciate a rough map.
The main books (a lot of people start with these):
Zami by Audre Lorde
Time on Two Crosses by Bayard Rustin
(Foucault History of sexuality vol 1) (sedgewick epistemology of the closet)<-these are kinda esoteric/academic
Judith Butler's most widely read and mentioned essays (so you can avoid reading lacan or zizek's sloppy lacan seconds in an attempt to read all of her books): "Doing Justice to Someone", "Subjects of Sex/Gender/Desire", and Bodies that matter chapter 1.
Some of my favorite contemporary essayists besides Judith Butler are Sarah Ahmed, Dean Spade, and Jasbir Puar. 'LGBTQ+' theory, that you would want to read as a lay person, is or at least should be an outgrowth of critical political theory and feminist political theories. so it covers state, media, and legal systems and how they interact with lgbtq people as well as how capitalism extracts value from lgbtq people.
hellohey, there was a bit of discussion regarding lgbtq+ theory earlier on this page and i kind of wanted to bring that up again. personally i’ve had a hard time knowing where to start when it comes to this— the only “mainstream” theorist i’ve heard of is judith butler whom i have heard can be inaccessible at times. i feel like others are in the same boat of getting all their knowledge from youtubers like contrapoints and philosophy tube, who are still great but can’t fully replace actual books.
so mostly i had 2 questions for this thread:
thanks!
- which theory books/essays do you recommend?
- what types of ideas does lgbtq+ theory generally cover? earlier on this page that article about experiences as a nonwhite lgbtq+ person and the discussion of how “coming out” is treated in contemporary society was really thought-provoking and made me think about stuff i’d never really paid any mind to before. it’s like there’s a whole new world of ideas out there so i would appreciate a rough map.
also no one needs to be ashamed of getting their information from youtubers or any other sort of alternative medium
there is nothing sacred about theoretical texts, they are just one of many ways to tell stories that are worth hearing
and unfortunately at times when one is confined to texts it can feel like there is a "barrier to entry" of all the prerequisite readings required to understand what the hell a sentence like "the body is a site where regimes of discourse and power inscribe themselves, a nodal point or nexus for relations of juridical and productive power" is supposed to mean
i agree generally, but i think i should point out that the example i used is actually like the third sentence of the text it's in, and is speaking directly on another author's work (foucault) that the reader is supposed to have read before reading the text in questionI mean in most theoretical writing you can pick out a sentence that is hard to understand outside of the text it came from. People shouldn't be intimidated by sentences like this, it gets easier to understand these types of theories the more you engage with them, even without doing any prior readings. By all means it is easier to get the core ideas from secondary sources like video commentaries, but it could be valuable to do a little reading occasionally. Some minutia or some way the idea is presented in the text could resonate with you or be useful/valuable to you and it might be lost or unmentioned in the secondary sources. Obviously if you find yourself trying to decipher something with little success and lots of frustration it is good to move on to something else, but it's worth giving the texts a read every once in a while.
Welcome to the blue, pink and white Republic!It's 4 AM and I've been thinking about this for a while now but I'm 99.99% sure that I want to be female. I've never really talked about it to anyone in my real life or in the Smogon community here but I'm pretty sure I'd go insane if I didn't talk about it at some point in time so I'm choosing to share it now. Growing up I've never really felt the need to be masculine; sometimes even disgusted by the idea of doing pretty much anything people expect from a dude because I'm not comfortable with showcasing those qualities as who I am. Whenever someone would make a comment about me exerting female traits I'd take it as more of a compliment than a need to correct my behavior and before I’d usually think to myself "well maybe you're just a really feminine guy!" but now it's more of a "I'm more comfortable with actually being female than what I identify as now" and "life would be so much better if I was female". I kept my thoughts of gender dysphoria inside me since when I was really young and didn't tell anyone because I was really afraid of being treated differently everywhere if I expressed my wish to be transgender. It sucks that I don't think my parents would ever accept me as a transwoman because of their values, but I'm okay with doing whatever is best for me to ensure my own happiness. I'll most likely look into it more until I can support myself since I’m still young but I still identify as a dude as of now like I always have. I don't wish to be treated any differently because at the end of the day I'm still me and this is essentially just me spilling out my feelings that I've kept bottled up for around a decade. I just really needed somewhere to put this; thanks for reading.
(For the record, I did try to express myself in a feminine way a couple times growing up, but each time I had to deal with cisnormativity in my household. It wasn’t overt or even implicit homophobia/transphobia, I just felt like I had to explain things that I didn’t know how to explain. I bring this up not to “validate” myself but because cisnormativity is really stupid and I hope by bringing it up more we can help others disentangle themselves from it more easily.)It is to approach your own history, your own experiences, and your own right to make your own choices for your gender, your body and your life the same way the Gatekeeper approaches them. You do the Gatekeeper’s work for him, validate the cissexist consciousness, and self-select out of your own rights and own gender and own potential life before even giving anyone a chance to deny them. It’s the same thing: you confess your experiences in a linear narrative while gatekeeper weighs them against some arbitrary, decontextualized checklist of “trans experiences”. Just in this case, you play both parts. There is absolutely no history you may have that undermines your right to make this choice, would undermine the validity of that choice, or would undermine the gender you assert.
A note:
I talk about beauty here in a more theoretical sense. While I certainly strive for the sense of genuine humanity I describe below, it’s important to note that I hope to also be beautiful physically. I will make “drip” look like a single water molecule. I will exercise my divine right to wear hideously ugly clothing to make cis people feel better about themselves. I’m tall so there’s more of me to dress up. I even hope to communicate genuine humanity through the way I physically express myself.
It’s certainly a fun word to throw around, but upon closer inspection the inherent contradiction within it becomes quite apparent: rewarding perceived independence makes it less independent. I have noticed that most online circles tend to avoid this contradiction and either gravitate towards just “based = good” or slather the whole thing in irony. It’s a mess.A word used when you agree with something; or when you want to recognize someone for being themselves, i.e. courageous and unique or not caring what others think. Especially common in online political slang.
Based post lol, and welcome to Transland.this is a weird post cause i'm a weird person
hi everyone! i'm erin, i love everyone, and i hope to be the most beautiful girl in the world one day!
i wrote a lot of stuff here not to "prove" myself (i did that in the last line), i just wanted to explain what i've learned over these past few months in case it might help anyone else.
So I guess what’s expected here is a full explanation starting with my birth where I felt bad about not getting the pink hat as a baby or something. Unfortunately, I cannot provide this: regardless of which subjective lens I use to look back on my childhood, I can’t just point to that and be like “see? i was a girl all along. you morons, you absolute cretins”. Here’s why:
(For the record, I did try to express myself in a feminine way a couple times growing up, but each time I had to deal with cisnormativity in my household. It wasn’t overt or even implicit homophobia/transphobia, I just felt like I had to explain things that I didn’t know how to explain. I bring this up not to “validate” myself but because cisnormativity is really stupid and I hope by bringing it up more we can help others disentangle themselves from it more easily.)
How do I know, then? All this started about 3-4 months ago after I started making changes in my lifestyle with self-care. From there, the period of questioning, aka suffering and hell, began. 1 thing about being trans is you don’t go from 0% certain to 100% overnight, you gotta get through 30%, and 50%, and 80% over weeks. How do you think it feels to feel 50% trans?????? Absolutely ridiculous, but I got through it. I used any pronouns on Discord and felt a little spark in my heart every time someone (mostly zovrah lol) would use she/her. I shaved my legs. My cousins came over and OFFERED to put makeup on me/put my hair into a ponytail/put nail polish on me (I genuinely just lucked into that). On the other hand I had to wear a fancy shirt to my brother’s high school graduation and I hated that.
Most important, though, was what happened on the inside. I would be like “ok, I’ll go for a run, as a girl” (despite my visual appearance not changing) and see how my brain felt. Soon I was doing that all the time, because it just felt nicer and I started really being able to see myself as female.
So really that’s all it is. A collection of evidence gathered through experiences (p less than 0.05 or whatever) and Hey Liberals If Being A Cis Man Is So Privileging Why Is Being A Woman So Much More Fun. "being cis" was like playing stall irl. BORING as hell. gender APATHY
Something important to note is that even now, there are always doubts and gender euphoria isn’t constant. I was a bit annoyed when I learned that presenting as female wouldn’t leave me in a permanent state of happiness, but it is what it is I guess. I wake up as a girl and my first thoughts are about eating breakfast and making plans for the day instead of seeing how I can make myself look pretty. Gender apathy is still around, but the good times are also there when I need them.
Sometimes, I get the opportunity to make magic happen. A couple weeks ago, my family went on a vacation to a place with a pretty big beach (though it was too cold to swim there). I’m a big fan of settings like beaches, gardens, and yes, cityscapes, because they’re neutral and non-judgmental. They have character, but you can also just spend time with them. So on the last day before we left, I went there alone for an hour or so and just walked and thought about gender. It was neat.
Then I went back a few hours later.
The mist was heavy, and the light was gradually running out. There was no one else. This is what it looked like in all directions (except the water):
I could say whatever I wanted. So I did. I talked about the future I wanted, a life full of friends, work, hobbies, style, and even romantic relationships. The beach, and the ocean next to it, listened.
To call it a profound experience would be an understatement. The profound experience part was me not being able to find my way back and stumbling into a stranger’s house to ask for a drink, terrified I would collapse from exhaustion, and walking 5 miles back to arrive home at 11 PM. This was something more.
This is how I know I’m on the right path.I wouldn’t say that ADHD directly interacts with my gender identity much (though recently I have had some issues with perfectionism/wanting to be a “perfect” or “ideal” woman) but where these two things have converged is how they’ve been treated by society. Both have me engaging in a constant uphill battle: I must be a highly functional and productive member of society, and I must make efforts to be feminine.
This was at its worst during high school and the semester I spent in college. I wore my hair short, showed up late for class, was always on my phone, and barely had the energy to get through the day. I tended to be irritable and disappointed in myself, which was compounded by my parents placing the same expectations that I had already set for myself. On Smogon/PS, I tried to make up for this by trying to draw attention and respect by coming up with creative sets and improving at the game. In real life, I could socialize perfectly fine, but didn’t feel like I really fit in because I just felt bad all the time—when I tried sports, they just made me more exhausted. I couldn’t tell you how much dysphoria was involved in all this, but I will say that I’ve had BW2 Iris as my avatar on PS since 2018 (crazy dress? unapologetically insane? several dragon-types? goals).
Anyway, it all came to a head in college when my inability to actually turn in assignments finally caught up with me and I failed the first term. Since I didn’t feel confident seeking help on my own, I asked my parents and they got a therapist for me. From there, I started to gradually rebuild my self-image, starting from radical humanism (everyone deserves happiness and love and support, even someone who can’t get anything done like me) and building on that.
Going into 2021 I was pretty happy with myself and outside the range of depression, but it wasn’t until I started to figure out my gender identity that I felt genuinely appreciative of myself. I have a future now, and she wears dresses and fancy shoes, has a job in computer science or something else that makes sense with my brain, and does whatever she wants!!!!! Even things like working at a boring job feel doable now, because I feel a longing to exist on this earth that I’ve never felt before.
Going into adulthood, I recognize that things will still be difficult. Whether I find a job or go back to school, there will always be days where I have a hard time functioning. The difference is that the motivation issue I had has been solved. Self-preservation now means more to me than just avoiding pain.Urban Dictionary defines “based” as the following:
It’s certainly a fun word to throw around, but upon closer inspection the inherent contradiction within it becomes quite apparent: rewarding perceived independence makes it less independent. I have noticed that most online circles tend to avoid this contradiction and either gravitate towards just “based = good” or slather the whole thing in irony. It’s a mess.
“Beauty in the face of based” was the second magical power I came up with. It entails rejecting the false individualism of the word “based” and embracing a true independence not bestowed by any other person. At first glance, the word “beauty” doesn’t really support what I’m trying to do here—it mostly just means “aesthetically pleasing” or otherwise “good”. What I want to evoke with this word is the “beauty” experienced by people in very close relationships (both romantic and platonic), the same sense of profound vastness one might get from looking at the sky or the sea or the mountains. People are big, and complicated, and exist outside of narratives (even their own). Nobody is ever truly “based”. Everyone is beautiful, though it isn’t up to me to assign that to others. By striving to show the world how beautiful I am, I seek to disenfranchise a culture in which opinions are valued over people.
Obviously, I have not “solved politics” or, for that matter, shown how this concept operates in practice. For example, a social conservative might use this same concept to justify ignoring “LGBTQ+ opinions” in favor of keeping traditional masculinity safe or whatever. Mostly I seek to lead by example: living a happy and expressive life and really seeing the beauty in people will be more productive for me than arguing on the internet. Showing the world how beautiful I am primarily involves asserting my existence and connecting with others more deeply than just a passing conversation or debate. (This section has been very “spend less time online” focused but the real world does have its problems too. A lot of people act super fake and everyone is always busy. “Based” has impacts on the real world as well.)
Overall, only people whom I am close to can appraise my beauty. It is a very personal thing. But I’ll take personal things over impersonal things that you get from saying funny words near ironic people any day. This is beauty in the face of based.
“Ok, very cool, but what does this have to do with your gender identity?” Nothing. Welcome to my manifesto. Cisnormative society and its consequences have been a dis-…and it gave me the bright idea of doing a similar thing and making a deranged collection of overly personal anecdotes and pretentious essays. Welcome to my post!
On a more serious note, this book gets into some crazy topics. Like I knew trans acceptance used to be much worse (and is still bad) but what the hell. The state of trans healthcare in the 20th century was dismal because of a bunch of bozo researchers coming up with stupid theories about trans people depending on what field they worked in and being like “so yeah as a sociology expert uhhh this is all social you have no inherent gender, no hormones for you, buy my book”!!! Oppositional sexism (seeing male and female as opposites, and seeing being male as better than being female) perpetuates terrible belief systems!!!! Media depictions of trans women can be overly sensationalized and some perpetuate trans-misogyny by reducing all of femininity to a performance (where being male isn’t)!!!!!
I wanted to bring up dialogues on this book but I really don’t know what to say, I feel very out of my depth here. I’m about halfway through (almost at part 2) so I might make another post with more coherent thoughts later. But like, this book is stretching my 10-hour-trans-breadtube-watchtime 2 brain cells to their absolute limit. The language is accessible, but the concepts are hard. (although they are unfathomably based. see? told you it was a fun word to throw around)I lurked r/mtf and r/asktransgender on Reddit a bit but never posted there. The trans meme subs are also a lot of fun (looked at those even when I thought I was cis lol).
https://transgenderteensurvivalguide.com unfortunately i turned 20 a mere two months before finding this site, so the pages are all inaccessible to me. i post this in the hopes that a zoomer out there will learn the secrets of the Transgender Teens and not end up a sad husk like me….
This blog, which I cited earlier, was enormously helpful for me in answering questions I didn’t think to ask. I am very proud of myself for coming up with the null hypothe-cis concept independently of the post on here lol
I also do recommend Philosophy Tube/Contrapoints on YouTube, they have a less practical and more theoretical focus but they do a good job laying out basic frameworks starting from the position of an average cis person who knows nothing.shoutouts to hba for putting up with me being incoherent and helping me figure things out!I don’t know everything. This section is me drawing the limits of what I’ve learned and asking for advice or help. Or more realistically, I’ve probably been speaking on things for which I am wholly unqualified to speak, but the subjects in this part just terrify me.
First of all, my parents scare me. Now I don’t want to get into a whole Smogon rant about how much I hate my parents, because they’re accepting and are really not that bad. The problem is that I tend to conflate invalidation of myself as a person (from society) with invalidation of my gender identity. This is why I’ve been trying to become self-sufficient before coming out to them—not because I’m afraid they will reject me, but because I’d rather start in the world as Erin who takes the bus to work every day and plays chess at the cafe than Erin who spends too much time scrolling through Reddit and struggles to pass her classes, you know? (This is also the reason why I was terrified of posting this here, despite the confidence I feel with it all.) I recognize that this is a really weird problem but I was wondering if anyone else had experience with it.
Voice training is hard cause I lack patience. I am motivated though so I’ll push through it.
Getting my own clothes/makeup is not easy because the topics feel too broad and don’t really have definitive tutorials. Also there’s the issue of me only being out to 2 people irl (my brother and therapist, both are extremely cool) so I feel uncomfortable experimenting in part due to the cisnormativity I’d have to deal with (now I have an explanation for why I want to do this, but I can’t say it for the reasons above, which is incredibly frustrating). I feel the same way about HRT, which I'd feel really weird about starting without telling my parents (it’s dishonest, and it wouldn’t help with the root of the issue).
if you have any questions or just wanna talk about stuff, pm me on discord at city#0310! if you want to send me mean things, you can do that too! but beware: my skin is made of diamonds and i can probably beat you at pokemon!
From what I've seen and heard, it seems to mainly stem from an inherent fear of someone being "different"; in more modern times with our existence being more easily seen, "becoming a minority".I don't get the burning hatred some people have for LGBTA+ people? Like, I can't wrap my head around it anymore, despite being initially being brought up to have hostility to it. I grew out of it of course, finding it absurd. But still, I just question the vitriol towards it.
I don't get the burning hatred some people have for LGBTA+ people? Like, I can't wrap my head around it anymore, despite being initially being brought up to have hostility to it. I grew out of it of course, finding it absurd. But still, I just question the vitriol towards it.
Yooo coming out party guess I'm coming out officially very cool!
So: gay. I am not out to any of my family yet very cool. Thought I'd post here so everyone knows! I was initially scared to post here because I was very afraid of how some people, especially close PS! friends, would react, but I figure that they're not really worth having in my life if they're not supportive of my decisions.
I've also been dealing with some weird gender stuff but I'll make sure to update if my tiny coconut brain finally decides to settle on something. In the meantime, he/him/his pronouns please.
Anyways! Shout out to especially bea and smely socks who helped me gather up the courage to post here.
Love you all!
e: completely forgot abt this post ahhh- corrected someone's name <3
I don't get the burning hatred some people have for LGBTA+ people? Like, I can't wrap my head around it anymore, despite being initially being brought up to have hostility to it. I grew out of it of course, finding it absurd. But still, I just question the vitriol towards it.