(Little) Things that annoy you in Pokémon

I'm still annoyed my girl Drasna did not get an ancestor in Legends Arceus. How are you gonna put in a Kalos character ancestor and NOT make it for the woman whose parents are from Celestic Town and who talks about Dialga and Palkia? My annoyance has actually increased with the leaked character bios confirming she was meant to be of Ainu descent. Why not a clan member? You can say that's too obscure of a development detail to remember, but they were able to make a character based on the tidbit of Clay being an immigrant so I dunno.

Now, there is a way to turn this around. It's possible that Game Freak already knew Kalos was next and figured "Eh, we'll have Drasna back soon enough, she can sit this one out". Copium btw this is copium
 
R_N said:
Which reminds me how weird it was there wasn't a Palmer/Barry ancestor. L:A didn't have every Sinnoh character get an ancestor, which is fine, but ignoring the rival entirely is...strange. To me it'd be like not having Cyrus, Rowan or Cynthia ancestors.
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I would personally default to the null hypothesis of "They didn't have an idea for a Barry ancestor they were happy with and didn't want to force it". The other three Sinnoh staple ancestors you mention all had major roles story/gameplay-wise, so I guess they felt like any sort of Ye Olde Barry/Palmer would need a similar level of standout function instead of being just another Warden or some such. Perhaps they figured a traditional rival wouldn't jive with the game design. Heck, maybe they already felt they were pushing it with representing the protags + 3 of the big names in a game set over a century back in the timeline and deliberately wanted to keep at least one exclusive to present Sinnoh to make things ever so slightly less overly convenient.
 
Yung Dramps said:
I would personally default to the null hypothesis of "They didn't have an idea for a Barry ancestor they were happy with and didn't want to force it". The other three Sinnoh staple ancestors you mention all had major roles story/gameplay-wise, so I guess they felt like any sort of Ye Olde Barry/Palmer would need a similar level of standout function instead of being just another Warden or some such. Perhaps they figured a traditional rival wouldn't jive with the game design. Heck, maybe they already felt they were pushing it with representing the protags + 3 of the big names in a game set over a century back in the timeline and deliberately wanted to keep at least one exclusive to present Sinnoh to make things ever so slightly less overly convenient.
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Also, given his dad's a Frontier Brain, maybe his family isn't originally from Sinnoh. Cause we know at least one of the Sinnoh Brains isn't.
 
Yung Dramps said:
I'm still annoyed my girl Drasna did not get an ancestor in Legends Arceus. How are you gonna put in a Kalos character ancestor and NOT make it for the woman whose parents are from Celestic Town and who talks about Dialga and Palkia? My annoyance has actually increased with the leaked character bios confirming she was meant to be of Ainu descent. Why not a clan member? You can say that's too obscure of a development detail to remember, but they were able to make a character based on the tidbit of Clay being an immigrant so I dunno.

Now, there is a way to turn this around. It's possible that Game Freak already knew Kalos was next and figured "Eh, we'll have Drasna back soon enough, she can sit this one out". Copium btw this is copium
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I wondered about this too, especially since Wulfric, of all people, got a Hisuian ancestor.

The way I sort of rationalized it was that Drasna’s grandparents are from Celestic Town, but at the time of Legends: Arceus, Celestic Town doesn’t exist yet. So I figured they must have immigrated there sometime well after the events of the game.

Looking at Drasna’s character draft now, I can see that they conceptualized her grandparents as originating from Sinnoh, which — although we don’t know if these drafts are still canonical; obviously there are some details that didn’t make it to the finish line — does kinda shoot a hole in my theory, but at the same time, I always assumed that Drasna was in, like, her 60s, so I’m surprised that she was envisioned as being in her early 40s. If Legends: Arceus is circa 1869, and XY is, I dunno, 2010ish, Drasna would have been born around 1965. And I assume her mother (who the document says married a Kalosian man) would have prrrrrrrrobably been born 35 years or fewer before then, and her grandparents 35 years or fewer before then (35 being a rough-but-generous estimate after factoring in the average age of menopause + the median age of childbearing in Japan). That’d put her grandparents’ birth at about… 70 years after Legends: Arceus.

So in my head, that creates a nice, long gap in which the region could be renamed as Sinnoh, the Diamond and Pearl Clans could meld, and Celestic Town could be formed. While I imagine that Drasna’s lineage is still ultimately rooted in the two clans, maybe it took a few generations of intra-clan relationships for the genes that make Drasna look as she does to come to fruition. :mehowth:

AztecCroc said:
Also, given his dad's a Frontier Brain, maybe his family isn't originally from Sinnoh. Cause we know at least one of the Sinnoh Brains isn't.
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Well, Palmer mentions at one point that when he was a boy, he and the player’s father went to Lake Verity, and that that was his first step as a Trainer. So I think he definitely grew up in Littleroot Town, though it’s still possible that his parents aren’t from Sinnoh.
 
Esserise said:
I wondered about this too, especially since Wulfric, of all people, got a Hisuian ancestor.

The way I sort of rationalized it was that Drasna’s grandparents are from Celestic Town, but at the time of Legends: Arceus, Celestic Town doesn’t exist yet. So I figured they must have immigrated there sometime well after the events of the game.

Looking at Drasna’s character draft now, I can see that they conceptualized her grandparents as originating from Sinnoh, which — although we don’t know if these drafts are still canonical; obviously there are some details that didn’t make it to the finish line — does kinda shoot a hole in my theory, but at the same time, I always assumed that Drasna was in, like, her 60s, so I’m surprised that she was envisioned as being in her early 40s. If Legends: Arceus is circa 1869, and XY is, I dunno, 2010ish, Drasna would have been born around 1965. And I assume her mother (who the document says married a Kalosian man) would have prrrrrrrrobably been born 35 years or fewer before then, and her grandparents 35 years or fewer before then (35 being a rough-but-generous estimate after factoring in the average age of menopause + the median age of childbearing in Japan). That’d put her grandparents’ birth at about… 70 years after Legends: Arceus.

So in my head, that creates a nice, long gap in which the region could be renamed as Sinnoh, the Diamond and Pearl Clans could meld, and Celestic Town could be formed. While I imagine that Drasna’s lineage is still ultimately rooted in the two clans, maybe it took a few generations of intra-clan relationships for the genes that make Drasna look as she does to come to fruition. :mehowth:


Well, Palmer mentions at one point that when he was a boy, he and the player’s father went to Lake Verity, and that that was his first step as a Trainer. So I think he definitely grew up in Littleroot Town, though it’s still possible that his parents aren’t from Sinnoh.
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That’s a big first step.
 
QuentinQuonce said:
Me, searching for a Pokemon on the GTS: "don't show people requesting a Pokemon I do not have"

"Trainer X has the Pokemon you want! And they want Pokemon Y in exchange!"

Oh, good - let's click on the profile and -

"You don't have a Pokemon that your partner wants"

OKAY THAT'S FINE BUT DON'T SHOW ME SOMEONE LOOKING FOR A FRENCH MEWTWO THEN
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The Home GTS is absolutely maddening. There's plenty of information they can easily display and filter out based on what you have.

But don't worry! You'll be able to know at a glance the nature someone is offering and if it had a Nature Mint used on it.
 
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R_N said:
The Home GTS is absolutely maddening. There's plenty of information they can easily display and filter out based on what you have.

But don't worry! You'll be able to know at a glance the nature someone is offering and if it had a Nature Mint used on it.
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The other aspect of it I find maddening is that it lets you filter for "can travel to [game]", which sounds helpful enough. But in practice that's only relevant for LGPE Pokemon, since Pokemon from other games can't go into there. If I search for a Dragonite and ask for one capable of travelling to ScVi, I could end up getting sent a Dragonite from Gen XI, Gen VIII, LGPE, Pokemon Go, or one that's come from Bank. Which doesn't really help. Wouldn't it be more helpful to have that criteria be that it's from a particular game, not that it can go there?
 
QuentinQuonce said:
The other aspect of it I find maddening is that it lets you filter for "can travel to [game]", which sounds helpful enough. But in practice that's only relevant for LGPE Pokemon, since Pokemon from other games can't go into there. If I search for a Dragonite and ask for one capable of travelling to ScVi, I could end up getting sent a Dragonite from Gen XI, Gen VIII, LGPE, Pokemon Go, or one that's come from Bank. Which doesn't really help. Wouldn't it be more helpful to have that criteria be that it's from a particular game, not that it can go there?
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It's always been an odd omission that you can't specify Origin mark (or possibly even multiple marks). Like, yes, okay would people abuse this absolutely.
But also people are already abusing the search terms they have access to! So just cut the middle man so I didn't have to keep looping Pokemon on the GTS for Go marks.
 
Shrinn said:
For anyone who played the game Pokemon Ultra Moon. Getting stopped every 20 steps to go through a new tutorial or cutscene absolutely killed my enthusiasm to play the game, and I dropped it for over a year. I still enjoy that gen, but it was unbearable, especially since I was already aware of the story through SM.
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My solution is: click-click-click, watch something in the background.
 
twillight said:
That there is a ledge in the Oreborg Mine you step down - and boom, you are softlocked.
Or that if you go down to Giratine in Platinum, and you realise your team is not up to the task - you are again softlocked.
Prove me otherwise.
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For the oreburgh mine, you're not soft locked. There's a clear space between the rock and the wall you can walk through. I even pulled out the game to verify.

For Giratina you're still not softlocked, you can just lose to Giratina (or Cyrus). You have to travel all the way back up Spear Pillar, go through the Distortion World again and try again, but it's an option
Or you can run from or defeat Giratina and the plot will keep playing out and you can just catch it again in the post game's Turnback Cave
 
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