Low Ubers

[sanjay120]

So they switch in to gain the ability to switch out? How is that a counter? More importantly, how is Baton Pass a counter? Wobby Encores set ups.

As to whether it's overcentralizing, it forces Bliss and Cressy to carry Shed Shell over Leftovers, when Shed Shell has no other use (bar maybe Duggy for Bliss). That's a specialized counter.

Wobby can't switch into much, true, but on a team that forces switches (one with things such as Blissey and Infernape) it can get in on lots of things. Hell, if you switch first whatever it is that was trying to switch out is trapped. Also:

If they encore, a Heatran fireblast, or any other such move, the next attack will hit Gyara for nothing while it DDs up in your face

Fixed.

 

[Vampy34]

Wobb has no counters. End of story.

 

[blastoiselover100]

Wobb has no counters. End of story.

This can counter okay:
Giratina@ Leftovers
Impish
252 Hp/56 atk/100 def/ 100 sdef
~Will-o-Wisp
~Rest
~Dragon Claw
~Sleep Talk

When you are in against Wobby, WoW and when it Encores you, it can feel free to switch out. The thing that works with this is that there are no fire ubers barring Arceus. So it can just status everything until it dies I guess. And it can pressure stall Wobby.

 

[Vampy34]

This can counter okay:
Giratina@ Leftovers
Impish
252 Hp/56 atk/100 def/ 100 sdef
~Will-o-Wisp
~Rest
~Dragon Claw
~Sleep Talk

When you are in against Wobby, WoW and when it Encores you, it can feel free to switch out. The thing that works with this is that there are no fire ubers barring Arceus. So it can just status everything until it dies I guess. And it can pressure stall Wobby.

How do you suppose you get Giratina in against wobby?

 

[Stathakis]

sacrifice something? there's no other way to get something in, barring u-turn, shed shell, and baton pass

 

[sanjay120]

This is about the viability of Wobby in OU not Ubers.

Also Encore -> Heatran switch. Yeah Heatran works in Ubers. Ho-oh gets a free turn as well.

 

[Choice Specs Shuckle]

Oh, ass. I voted for Deoxys-D because I wasn't paying attention and thought it said Deoxys-S.

Despite that, I still think that Deoxys-S would be too good for OU, mainly due to his huge movepool. But I wouldn't be upset if he was demoted; I'd finally have a reason to soft-reset for a good Deoxys in Emerald (I never bothered with uber battles on WiFi).

 

[Namtar]

sacrifice something?

So the counter to Wobbuffet is "sacrifice something"? Yeah, I guess that about sums it up.