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I am really against changing the bird trio's typing because that's what makes them. Like Moltres is a bird with flaming wings, how could it not be Fire/Flying?
Drought makes so much sense because Moltres can light up the night sky with a flap of its wings and brings early spring where it travels.
True. But at the same time, I don't want it to be a carbon copy of MegaZard Y
Fire/Flying?,so It will lose its dragon moves I guss It would look akward
Make it bulky. Just because two thing have the same typing and ability doesn't mean they can't be different, look at Nidoking and Nidoqueen or Slowbro and Slowking.
Moltres... Dragon? Wut
I'm not sure how that typing will Translate to defense, but I'll think of something :P
It already gets Will-o-Wisp. I'm thinking it could get Calm Mind too, and become pretty hard to take down. But I'm already thinking of giving Dragonite CM... at the same time we don't have any fast or bulky CM users, let alone one that could be both. I'd rather give it to Moltres because Dragonite already has everything and a Mega can give it Multiscale + Defog (otherwise illegal).
Dex wise, Dratinis have been described as Mythical and living under water, Dragonairs as mystical and can control/change the climate and Dragonites as intelligent and free flying with extreme speed and as a guardian of a sea.
Being part fairy fits with a lot of the above, while giving him an aquatic ability or high power based move would suit more as being both a water creature and a sea guardian.
A mega evolution into a Dragon/Fairy would tap into the mythical guardian rumors and giving him Levitate would keep him as an airborn jet he is known as and possibly Airlock as a secondary ability (the Inner Focus line). Hydro Pump and Aqua Ring should given to him as new moves as well as Moonblastand Calm Mind.
Statwise he would get a bit faster, bit bulkier and more potent on the Specially offensive side:
Mega Dragonite
Dragon/Fairy
Ability: Levitate/Air Lock
New Moves: Hydro Pump, Moon Blast, Aqua Ring.
HP-91 -> 91
ATK-134 -> 160
DEF-95 -> 100
SPA-100 -> 149
SPd-100 -> 100
SPD-80 -> 100
Base stat total = 600 -> 700
Edit: Scratched Calm Mind as per the rules of no boosting.
Edit2: Dragon/Fairy with levitate already gives it so many resistances and immunities that giving it any more bulk with that speed would make it broken, so I focused more on bringing up the SpA to match it's new status and give the it's infamous atk the mega boost.
Edit3: Removed the Airlock slash as an ability.
Being part fairy fits with a lot of the above, while giving him an aquatic ability or high power based move would suit more as being both a water creature and a sea guardian.
A mega evolution into a Dragon/Fairy would tap into the mythical guardian rumors and giving him Levitate would keep him as an airborn jet he is known as and possibly Airlock as a secondary ability (the Inner Focus line). Hydro Pump and Aqua Ring should given to him as new moves as well as Moonblast
Statwise he would get a bit faster, bit bulkier and more potent on the Specially offensive side:
Mega Dragonite
Dragon/Fairy
Ability: Levitate
New Moves: Hydro Pump, Moon Blast, Aqua Ring.
HP-91 -> 91
ATK-134 -> 160
DEF-95 -> 100
SPA-100 -> 149
SPd-100 -> 100
SPD-80 -> 100
Base stat total = 600 -> 700
Edit: Scratched Calm Mind as per the rules of no boosting.
Edit2: Dragon/Fairy with levitate already gives it so many resistances and immunities that giving it any more bulk with that speed would make it broken, so I focused more on bringing up the SpA to match it's new status and give the it's infamous atk the mega boost.
Edit3: Removed the Airlock slash as an ability.
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I would suggest to increase spp att to 160
And decrease attack to 149
You can't give a mega two abilities. All Megas have one ability regardless of what they have before evolving.
Also, how does that justify Fairy? Because then like half of all Pokémon could be Fairy. Seems like an excuse to slap Fairy on everything.
Dragonite is known for being able to fly around the world in less than a day (Flying type) and spending most of its lifew in water (Water type). It's not small, cute, or pink like every other Fairy type.
Water/Dragon is almost too good and a slap in the face to Mega Gyarados. Plus there are things that live in water but aren't Water-type like Dragalge.
Naw man. Something to make it wallbreak.
Something like "Powers up Flying, Electric, and Water moves in Rain". It's already one of the few Pokemon that gets both Hurricane and Thunder. Why not make it love that even more? I was even considering making it Flying, Electric, and Dragon moves, but I realized that the only other fully evolved Dragons I can associate with water are Kingdra, Dragalage, and Goodra...
EDIT: I realized I said Water variant of Sand Rush, I meant Water variant of Sand Force
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Fairys don't necessarily have to be small, pink and cute. I don't think Dragonite's design screams fairy, but so far its typing goes, after dragon, flying and water, it'd be my next choice (and those little wings are pretty cute). Regardless, you'd have to make a pretty awesome set to win me over from the more established typings for it.
Well the Air Lock slash was more of a secondary suggestion rather than second ability, but I'm fairly convinced that Levitate is the best option so I'll remove it.
Also what? Being pink, cute and small are fairy qualities but mystical, intelligent and mythical aren't? You need to revisit the fairy pokemon my friend.
Also what? Being pink, cute and small are fairy qualities but mystical, intelligent and mythical aren't? You need to revisit the fairy pokemon my friend.
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Don't have to, but it's more than coincidence that all of them are at least one of those (even Mawile). I don't think there's a single Fairy mon that doesn't fall under that.
Maybe you need to. Is there a single Fairy type that isn't one of the following: small, cute, or pink?
Xerneas
Moltres is a flamey phoenix, and we all know what the latter is known for. Even though people would rush to give it Drought as it should, we shouldn't forget both it's ability to use Hurricane as well as being a capable rain sweeper. I thought it was better to focus on the Phoenix part and patch up it's movepool a bit as well:
Mega Moltres
Fire/Flying
Ability: Phoenix Flames (Status effects are healed at the end of every turn or when switched out. In addition, the base power of Fire moves remain the same regardless of weather).
New moves: Fiery Dance, Sacred Fire, Brave Bird.
HP-90 -> 90
ATK-100 -> 130
DEF-90 -> 100
SPA-125 -> 155
SPd-85 -> 100
SPD-90 -> 105
Base stat total = 600 -> 700
Mega Moltres
Fire/Flying
Ability: Phoenix Flames (Status effects are healed at the end of every turn or when switched out. In addition, the base power of Fire moves remain the same regardless of weather).
New moves: Fiery Dance, Sacred Fire, Brave Bird.
HP-90 -> 90
ATK-100 -> 130
DEF-90 -> 100
SPA-125 -> 155
SPd-85 -> 100
SPD-90 -> 105
Base stat total = 600 -> 700
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It's still early days for Fairy-types. Who knows what'll come out for them?
Well played.
I didn't think of Fiery Dance. I hope you don't mind, but I may nick that for my Moltres' final new move.
Damn it.
But he's a legendary lol
If we're going to consider that as justification, we'd better start allowing people to add 80 to a single stat because Mega Mewtwo X gets +80 Atk. Either they're both exceptions to the rule or they're both not.
It's an open competition, you can do as you please.
I was under the impression we already could dump all of our EVs into one stat if we really wanted to. You just have to convince people to vote for it.
IIRC the limit is 60 max in any single stat. As well as a limit of -30 speed and sometimes a bit of defense can be taken away but that's rare to do. It requires you to be clever with stats.
Moltres: I'm actually thinking magic guard, because the flames surrounding its body can ward off those rocks and toxics. Or flame body, which would actually make more sense (and is a pretty good ability)
Dragonite: Keep the multiscale imo. Multiscale distinguished dragonite from all the others and made it OU in the first place. Typing won't change, as a) it's a dragon. any blind person can see that
b) it flies alot. most pokemon that fly alot are flying types (and no, dragonite is not a ghost) The typing just fits too well.
Bellosom: Flower Veil is the way to go! Add quiver dance in, and you'll have lots. of. fun.
Xatu: Magic bounce is what made it special. Typing obviously won't change. I think we need to make its stats really good in order to make this thing better.
Dragonite: Keep the multiscale imo. Multiscale distinguished dragonite from all the others and made it OU in the first place. Typing won't change, as a) it's a dragon. any blind person can see that
b) it flies alot. most pokemon that fly alot are flying types (and no, dragonite is not a ghost) The typing just fits too well.
Bellosom: Flower Veil is the way to go! Add quiver dance in, and you'll have lots. of. fun.
Xatu: Magic bounce is what made it special. Typing obviously won't change. I think we need to make its stats really good in order to make this thing better.
What about a special moxie for dragonite? He doesn't have a way to boost his special attack like he can his attack, and his only way to get past his pitiful speed is to use agility, which would work great in a mixed set.
I'm enticed to do Water/Dragon for Mega Dragonite. Good typing overall offensively and defensively and it fits nicely flavor-wise to boot. Now, Dragonite's presence alone almost always entails an imminent threat. With a diverse movepool, well-rounded stats, and an amazing ability in Multiscale, it can run a variety of sets and to good effect; this is what makes him so dangerous. By virtue of these alone, Dragonite forces switches quite well and what better way to abuse these opportunities? Analytic, of course! (and yet again by Pokedex entries, it fits in well with Dragonite) Wallbreaking have never been so fun! :D
Yeah, I'll most definitely go for this set. :3
Yeah, I'll most definitely go for this set. :3
Mega Dragonite
Dragon/Flying --> Dragon/Fairy
91/134/95/100/100/80 --> 91/164 (+30)/115 (+20)/100/120 (+20)/110 (+30)
Inner Focus/Multiscale --> Multiscale
New Moves: Play Rough
To be honest, Dragonite is tied for the cutest Pseudo with Goodra. And whenever you think of fairies, you think of cute and pretty which is what Dragonite is. So I changed it's typing to Dragon/Fairy and I kept Multiscale. I gave it Play Rough of how it can react in the anime (eg: Fighting the mind controlled Pokemon from the BW series) and to compliment it's now buffed up Attack stat. Along with it's buffed Defenses and Speed it can be quite a dangerous threat.
Mega Xatu
Psychic/Flying --> Psychic/Flying
65/75/70/95/70/95 --> 65/75/100 (+30)/125 (+30)/100 (+30)/105 (+10)
Synchronize/Early Bird/Magic Bounce --> Unaware
New Moves: (Not sure if he gets these already) Cosmic Power, Amnesia, Calm Mind
Xatu's job was being a Magic Bouncer, so I changed him into a Bulky Attacker. I chose Unaware for his ability because I remember the Dex saying him standing all day long motionlessly. I gave him Cosmic Power due to him being able to see Future and I thought that Cosmic Power may relate to that. Amnesia because again the Dex and Calm Mind because what else could he do standing there, of course being calm!
Dragon/Flying --> Dragon/Fairy
91/134/95/100/100/80 --> 91/164 (+30)/115 (+20)/100/120 (+20)/110 (+30)
Inner Focus/Multiscale --> Multiscale
New Moves: Play Rough
To be honest, Dragonite is tied for the cutest Pseudo with Goodra. And whenever you think of fairies, you think of cute and pretty which is what Dragonite is. So I changed it's typing to Dragon/Fairy and I kept Multiscale. I gave it Play Rough of how it can react in the anime (eg: Fighting the mind controlled Pokemon from the BW series) and to compliment it's now buffed up Attack stat. Along with it's buffed Defenses and Speed it can be quite a dangerous threat.
Mega Xatu
Psychic/Flying --> Psychic/Flying
65/75/70/95/70/95 --> 65/75/100 (+30)/125 (+30)/100 (+30)/105 (+10)
Synchronize/Early Bird/Magic Bounce --> Unaware
New Moves: (Not sure if he gets these already) Cosmic Power, Amnesia, Calm Mind
Xatu's job was being a Magic Bouncer, so I changed him into a Bulky Attacker. I chose Unaware for his ability because I remember the Dex saying him standing all day long motionlessly. I gave him Cosmic Power due to him being able to see Future and I thought that Cosmic Power may relate to that. Amnesia because again the Dex and Calm Mind because what else could he do standing there, of course being calm!
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