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Megas For All (Read the whole 1st post and check current slate)
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Personally I would like to make Bellossom not overshadow Mega Lilligant (Which is already done for those to lazy to read the OP). (Though then again Mega Lily's main niche I believe will be Pixilate Nature Power; So it's best NOT to give it Pixilate) I will enjoy making Mega Xatu though.
Do you guys think a special moxie for dragonite would be too strong or not? (also, this is the third discussion period in a row that my ideas have been totally passed by lol)
Better on sunflora but it makes some sense. Also I'll be surprised if there are any sets without qdance.
Dragonite would be flavorful but practically useless with friend guard.
Moltres should have an Ice age clone imo.
Xatu should have something other than magic bounce possibly something with future and past sight flavor.
Would personally keep that fro Mega Sunflora, who I'm making a bulky attacker with Drought. For Belossom, Fairy typing with Flower Veil and Natural Cure seems to be the best bet.
Yes, quake in fear of... Wing Attack.
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Okay so Xatu and Dragonite should keep their Abilities. That's what makes them viable (more so for Xatu).
I think you mean flower gift(veil does nothing I think) also megas can only have one ability.
Sorry m8, Sunflora's finished. Don't worry, though, it is indeed a bulky attacker under the sun.
Regarding Bellossom, besides Fairy and Quiver Dance, I gave it a new ability called Pollen Shield that raises both defenses by 50% under the sun (kind of like a fully defensive Flower Gift). It has 75/180/187 bulk under sun, but without it... kind of sucks. The idea is that a teammate sets sun, Bellossom switches in with its monstrous defenses and uses them to set up Quiver Dance, and then attempts to sweep. It's not obscenely powerful; I didn't touch its poor Speed much, so even at 2 stages there are a lot of things that can outspeed it. But it's a nice niche, being able to relatively reliably set up Quiver Dance provided it has Sun support.
Flower veil does do things; it protects you from status, taunt, etc. The reason why people think it does nothing is because the only pokemon that gets flower veil (florges evolution line) is not a grass type, and flower veil only affects grass types.
I can see Bellossom becoming a Fire-type and getting Weather Ball if she gets Drought.
Hurricane.
Which isn't that great without rain.
Do we have an up-to-date list? It'd be a big help.
I'm definitely in support of Dragon/Water though, Pokemon can fly without being flying type. Look at Scizor, Golurk, Garchomp (in the anime), and especially look at Escavalier's dex entries, which state it "flies at mach speed" or some shit.
Besides, Gyarados in no way represents a flying type and its still a flying type lol.
I couldn't take having Mega Dragonite being Dragon/Water when Gyarados isn't.
Gamefreak really hates Gyarados.
Specially offensive Dragonite with Tail Glow. It's different from Dragonite's general role. I guess Calm Mind could be swapped for Tail Glow, but Tail Glow makes more sense. Its Speed should be within 90 to prevent it from being overpowered. It also gets a lot of Special Moves naturally, so no real need for additional movepool. Multiscale is a great ability it shares only with Lugia. So that should definitely stay.
I kinda want to see Drizzle Dragonite. My reasoning for this is Dragonair can freely control the weather, so it kind of makes sense in a way. With great moves such as Hurricane, Thunder, and (possibly STAB-boosted) Surf getting buffed in the rain, specially attacking Mega Dragonite doesn't sound too odd. Mixed attacking is even a possibility with Waterfall, Aqua Tail, and Aqua Jet getting the rain boost and hitting special walls hard enough. Ditch the Flying typing for a Water typing, and we have one hell of a special tank on out hands. With only Dragon and Fairy weaknesses as a Dragon/Water-type, Multiscale isn't even needed that much, and one can always improve on those defense stats, though STAB Hurricane in the rain is hard to pass up.
Yeah, I'm more accepting of Dragon/Water as long as it's not crazy. It'll need quite a boost in Special Attack to do meaningful damage so it's pretty balanced.
Because he has a tail, that's it?
Calm Mind actually makes more sense because Dragonite is intelligent and underwater is pretty calm/quiet.
If we're doing that I'd like to keep the typing too, so it actually has weaknesses. Mega Dragonite will still have Defog + Multiscale over regular Dragonite as the combination isn't legal otherwise. Same for Heal Bell.
I can see a stat spread going something like this: 100 / 134 / 115 (+20) / 150 (+50) / 120 (+20) / 90 (+10). Powerful as it may be, it would lack Multiscale which is pretty much the only real reason to use Dragonite over Salamence, so a powerful mixed weather sweeper would easily be another tactic to set itself apart.
IMO a focus on bulk and the legality of Heal Bell and Defog with Multiscale is what can set Mega Dragonite apart. Dragonite can stick with items from Weakness Policy to Lum Berry to Leftovers to enable it to sweep.
If it's really an issue, we could give it Thick Fat. But I don't find that necessary.
The thing about Multiscale is that it may be used before mega-evolving just to take a hit. So either way you'll get similar usage out of it. The only difference is you don't have the potential to restore your health so you can get it again.
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