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Mental Herb (Now good)
- Thread starter Niched
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Lum says hi to y'all gripin about Darkeargle.
This is huge news for VGC 11. Honestly, me personally, I had given up on most setup leads because of the 3 main Mischievous Heart mons spamming Taunts and whatnot. However...now... dang, they're possible again! Greysong is amazing for finding this! Pretty much, any Ghost, or Mischievous Heart mon paired with Kojondo or any support mon really, has a very high chance of setting up whatever they want first turn.
It still has its counters, but hey, that's to be expected. This sure does open up a whole bunch of new doors!
This is huge news for VGC 11. Honestly, me personally, I had given up on most setup leads because of the 3 main Mischievous Heart mons spamming Taunts and whatnot. However...now... dang, they're possible again! Greysong is amazing for finding this! Pretty much, any Ghost, or Mischievous Heart mon paired with Kojondo or any support mon really, has a very high chance of setting up whatever they want first turn.
It still has its counters, but hey, that's to be expected. This sure does open up a whole bunch of new doors!
I am ASSUMING that it would stop the first and be consumed and then the second taunt would go through. I have never had to play with it though.
Chill dude, just asking questions here. I mean, you could like, sniff a herb? I dunno, I'm not that into herbs and all. Just looking for confirmation.
Fake Out/Follow Me
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Being a TR veteran, I know of one thing that COMPLETELY screws over Trick Room, and it should be horribly obvious. Taunt never was too much trouble, depending on the player Taunting, but I think it would be a HUGE stretch say its the main counter. In fact, 90% of the time, I can successfully set up Trick Room with a Taunter on the other side of the field, and actually enjoyed it because that was less damage I'm taking for the first turn, and so what if my Togekiss can't use Follow Me? I'm just going to use Air Slash and incapacitate a Pokemon while I begin to carry out my setup. Even in gen V, you can't break me with Fake Out+Taunt, because I can just Protect first turn, Anger Powder the next, and have a field day with the rest of your team. Mental Herb just helps me get down to business faster.
Unless of course, if you have that one move. But are you going to take your chances with it? Are you going to waste a move slot that could've been used for Helping hand? Fuck yes you are, because I'm coming to rape you in your sleep if you don't. Let that one move be your shotgun, but be careful with it; you may pull the trigger and find yourself in your own crosshairs.
hurp
Being a TR veteran, I know of one thing that COMPLETELY screws over Trick Room, and it should be horribly obvious. Taunt never was too much trouble, depending on the player Taunting, but I think it would be a HUGE stretch say its the main counter. In fact, 90% of the time, I can successfully set up Trick Room with a Taunter on the other side of the field, and actually enjoyed it because that was less damage I'm taking for the first turn, and so what if my Togekiss can't use Follow Me? I'm just going to use Air Slash and incapacitate a Pokemon while I begin to carry out my setup. Even in gen V, you can't break me with Fake Out+Taunt, because I can just Protect first turn, Anger Powder the next, and have a field day with the rest of your team. Mental Herb just helps me get down to business faster.
Unless of course, if you have that one move. But are you going to take your chances with it? Are you going to waste a move slot that could've been used for Helping hand? Fuck yes you are, because I'm coming to rape you in your sleep if you don't. Let that one move be your shotgun, but be careful with it; you may pull the trigger and find yourself in your own crosshairs.
Wow. This is great for Shuckle. Shuckle will have trouble choosing between this, Leftovers, Pressure Band, and Grip Claw. (On non-Wrap/Sand Tomb-abusing sets, you can eliminate the latter two.)
This isn't a berry, so no, Tension shouldn't deactivate this.
I dunno what all this hubbub is about. Double Protect -> Trick Room+Anger Powder is more or less a guaranteed TR setup. Taunt is very pointless when every good TR team runs morobareru. I guess this means that morobareru can now use spore after being taunted but other than that it really has little consequence.
(FYI anger powder outprioritizes all taunts)
(FYI anger powder outprioritizes all taunts)
There are actually two moves that totally screw over Trick Room.
Encore - Basically you are forced to switch or you remove your own Trick Room. Switching in doubles is a huge disadvantage as the battles usually only last a few turns
Trick Room - Use your own Trick Room to counter Trick Room! You may set it up for them but hey, at least you have a chance.
Encore - Basically you are forced to switch or you remove your own Trick Room. Switching in doubles is a huge disadvantage as the battles usually only last a few turns
Trick Room - Use your own Trick Room to counter Trick Room! You may set it up for them but hey, at least you have a chance.
I just learned about this.
I wonder if people would use this if they knew?
Also, I think that the person who asked if it blocked knock-off was joking. Because if you consumed it in order to block the effect, than you still lost it, meaning that the attack did what it was meant to do. I see what you did there.
I wonder if people would use this if they knew?
Also, I think that the person who asked if it blocked knock-off was joking. Because if you consumed it in order to block the effect, than you still lost it, meaning that the attack did what it was meant to do. I see what you did there.
Mental Herb blocks Encore.