At that point there is no longer a single mechanic, but several loosely connected mechanics, which cripples the chances of an OM getting approved. Even if that wasn't the case, I still don't think this OM would get far, because the core of the OM, slashing PP across the board and forcing mons to Struggle, sounds frustrating instead of fun.
The interesting consequence I immediately thought of is speed control. There are plenty of power-boosting abilities to replace Life Orb, Band, and Specs, but there aren't many speed-boosting abilities to replace Choice Scarf. The only reliable ones I can think of are the field condition ones like Swift Swim and Surge Surfer, paired of course with the ability that sets the respective condition. That might mean less things would get speed boosts because only things that benefit from weather would run them, or if more things would get speed boosts because they'll run a field condition even if they're don't care about it just for what is a greater boost that Scarf without the Choice.
I was thinking of this myself as I was looking for replacement abilities, and my first thought was that speed control would be handled mostly through priority. Something like Gale Wings+Magic Guard, Grassy Surge with a Grassy Glide user, or a non-Psychic Surge terrain ability+Prankster Nature Power. There's also always basic priority moves that can be immediately boosted by some offensive ability like Technician. While I am concerned that Psychic Surge will make terrain counters a necessity, Queenly Majesty/Dazzling are one Mold Breaker away from becoming obsolete.
I tried to write this very idea some times in this forum, glad you had it almost exactly how i planned.
Maybe I did add a lot of rules, but mostly just to make it so any random chance ability is explained, most of them just follow the 40% effect or 80% accuracy besides Shed Skin (33%).
Hi Drampa's grandpa, I hope this is the correct way to make a suggestion.Approved by The Immortal, original ideas by Eevee General, Swaggy-G, and others, Thanks to Urkerab for hosting previously
Metagame Workshop
You asked, we delivered! This is a thread for bouncing your OM ideas off the community at large before posting them in the OM Submissions subforum. Anyone is welcome to offer feedback on ideas posted here, though recommendations from the mods (The Immortal, E4 Flint, Ransei, yours truly, drampa's grandpa) and other submission readers (G-Luke, Regirock, and Spandan) should be given priority. Our liking of posts can also be seen as expressing interest in a submission.
In order to make a preliminary outline of your submission idea, all you need to do is fill out this brief form (subject to change):
Metagame premise:
Potential bans and threats:
Questions for the community:
Some more information on each:
Commonly rejected OM ideas can be found here, you can find the rules for submitting a metagame here, and there is a sample format for submissions here. It is highly recommended that you check out all of the above so you can ensure that your idea is both new and fits within the parameters of what we are looking for.
- Metagame premise. Keep this succinct. In general, the metagames with the most simple changes are the ones that succeed. If you can't describe this in a single sentence (even a long one), you should go back to the drawing board. Also, you should have a fully formed idea.
- YES: "Pokemon get access to all of their STAB moves."
- NO: "I want to do something with STAB moves."
- Potential bans and threats. This can be pretty brief and should also potentially include sample sets if you have them.
- YES (this would be part of an answer): "Dragonite will be very powerful and suspect-worthy, given that it can set up using Multiscale and then mega evolve to gain a different ability like Aerilate (insert Dragonite set)."
- NO: "I think Pokemon that can set up easily would be difficult to beat."
- Questions for the community. Be specific. Ask the most important questions.
- YES: "How should I address Pokemon that change form in the middle of a battle?"
- YES: "Does the name 'Pokemoncansketchonemoveoutsideoftheirnormalmovepool-mons' express the metagame's premise clearly enough? Is it too specific?"
- NO: "What Pokemon would be good?"
- NO: "How should I capitalize 'Stabmons'?"
Happy posting! If you have any questions, or suggestions for additions to the form, let me or a moderator know.
i think it would be formatted as OU (No Team Preview) and be a standard format, according to my memory with past gen ous
I guess my biggest concern with this meta is that it feels punishing with no inherent reward. The mons that have coverage that minimizes HP loss vs mons that do not have the same viable coverage isn’t big of meta changer. It also sounds annoying to deal with more than adding new competive depth to the game.
I think the health drain would actually be best for all of them, but in different percentages depending on PP. It's a way to counteract the HP lost from using the move.
A couple of the rules seem inconsistent:
Right. Good catch on Sketch. Multi-turn moves should have the HP penalty dealt when dealing damage, as that is when PP is normally deducted.
It's not so much about it feeling punishing. It just changes the mechanic, borrowing an attacking system from other games (a stamina meter for all moves, demonstrated by the HP bar in this case). The idea is that this could have been something back in RBY that was just part of the game.
This will likely lead to endless battles. When people are disincentivised from attacking, they're just going to switch a lot.
Protean and Libero should be on that banlist. They’re unreasonably strong in combination with things like Adaptability, and since they’re technically different Abilities they don’t fall under the Ability Clause, so you can have four Pokémon that gain STAB on everything. Regenerator has way too many complex bans surrounding it; banning it altogether would be more reasonable. I understand not wanting to get too ban-happy, but there are far too many examples of metas that start with a small banlist that is required to grow very quickly.
Stall v Stall matchups would be literally impossible to win without one side messing up.
My problem with this format is that it turns into matchup based strong mon v strong mon teams, with low bst stuff with niches (such as Shedinja). I don't really think there's a way to fix this and make it interesting.
Bumping this bc i think it got ignored @_@Ok so I came up with a pretty silly idea for a new meta but I like it a lot
Single Use
Have you ever been swept by a mon and thought to yourself “If only their Choice item was gone…” or “I wish I’d predicted that switch-in and went for Knock Off…”? Well, this metagame’s for you!
Single Use works with a very simple premise: all items become single-use items. You use them and boom: they’re gone. Simple as that. But of course, some adjustments are made so they’re not as underwhelming.
(All the Gems from Gen 5 and Berserk Gene are now legal items btw)
List of all items and their (new) effects, if they’re not listed no changes occurred:
Absorb Bulb: Raises holder's Sp. Atk by 1 stage if hit by a Water-type attack and halves its damage.
Aguav/Figy/Iapapa/Mago/Wiki Berry: If activated, restores 50% of max HP.
Assault Vest: On switch-in, holder’s Sp. Def is raised by 1 stage.
Apicot/Ganlon/Liechi/Salac/Petaya Berry: If activated, boosts respective stat by 1.
Berries that halve supereffective damage: When hit by a [type in berry’s description] move, halves damage from moves of that type for 2 turns (that Pokémon only).
Berry Juice/Oran Berry/Sitrus Berry: If activated, restores 25% HP and heals all major status conditions (including Confusion).
Big Root: If activated, holder gains 1.5x HP from draining/Aqua Ring/Ingrain/Leech Seed/Strength Sap for 3 turns.
Binding Band: Holder’s first partial-trapping move deals 1/6 max HP damage per turn. Item is not consumed if move doesn’t connect or foe is immune to it.
Black Sludge: If holder is a Poison-type and this item is activated, restores 16.5% HP for 3 turns. If holder is not a Poison-type, loses 25% HP instead.
Bright Power/Lax Incense: Lowers foe’s accuracy by 50% for 1 turn.
Cell Battery: Raises holder's Atk by 1 stage if hit by an Electric-type attack and halves its damage.
Choice Band/Scarf/Specs: If activated, boosts the user’s Atk/Spe/SpA for 3 turns. The boost starts at 1.5x, but decreases to 1.3x on the second turn and 1.1x on the third turn.
Deep Sea Scale/Tooth: If activated, raises Clamperl’s Sp.Def/Sp.Atk by 2 stages.
Destiny Knot: If holder has its stats lowered or if it’s affected by effects such as Attract, Embargo or Taunt, foe is also affected.
Damp/Heat/Icy/Smooth Rock: If holder activates correspondent weather by an ability or move, the item is consumed and weather lasts for 8 turns.
Eviolite: On switch-in, raises holder’s Def and Sp. Def by 1 stage. Does not activate if holder cannot evolve.
Expert Belt: If activated, holder’s attacks that deal supereffective damage deal 1.3x damage.
Flame/Toxic Orb: Burns/Badly poisons holder at the end of the turn. The item is then consumed.
Focus Band: If activated, the holder will survive any attacks that would KO it, leaving it with 1 HP.
Full Incense/Lagging Tail: If activated, holder moves last in its priority bracket for 1 turn.
Grip Claw: Holder’s first partial-trapping move lasts 7 turns. Item is not consumed if it doesn’t connect or foe is immune to it.
Heavy-Duty Boots: When switching in, the holder is unaffected by hazards on its side of the field, but item is consumed. However, the item is not consumed if hazards would not affect the holder.
Iron Ball: On switch-in, lowers holder’s Spe by 2 and grounds holder.
King’s Rock/Razor Fang: If activated, holder's next move has an extra 50% chance to flinch foes. That turn only.
Lansat Berry/Leek (Farfetch’d/Sirfetch’d only)/Razor Claw/Scope Lens: If activated, holder gains the Focus Energy effect.
Leftovers: If activated, restores 16.5% HP to holder for 3 turns.
Leppa Berry: If activated, restores 10 PP to every move.
Life Orb: If activated, holder’s next move will deal 1.3x damage, but it loses 1/8 HP after the attack.
Light Ball: If activated, raises Pikachu and Raichu’s Atk and Sp.Atk by 1 stage.
Light Clay: Holder’s first screen move (Reflect/Light Screen/Aurora Veil) lasts for 8 turns.
Luminous Moss: Raises holder's Sp. Def by 1 stage if hit by a Water-type attack and halves its damage.
Macho Brace/Power items: On switch-in, lowers holder’s Spe by 2.
Metal Powder/Quick Powder: If activated by Ditto, raises Def/Spe by 1 stage. The boost is reversed after 4 turns.
Metronome: If activated, holder’s next move deals 1.5x damage if it was used by it last turn.
Muscle Band/Wise Glasses: If activated, boosts holder’s first physical/special move’s damage by 1.3x on the first turn, and lowers foe’s Def/Sp. Def by 1 stage on the second turn.
Protective Pads: Holder’s moves are protected from adverse contact effects for 1 turn (except Pickpocket).
Quick Claw: If activated, holder moves first in its priority bracket.
Ring Target: If activated, foe’s immunities granted by its typing are negated. The effect wears off if foe switches out.
Rocky Helmet: If holder is hit by a contact move, the attacker loses 1/4 of its max HP and the item is consumed.
Rusted Shield/Sword: On switch-in, raises holder’s Def/Atk by 1 stage.
Safety Goggles: Holder is immune to powder moves and damage from Sandstorm or Hail, but item is knocked off if holder is hit.
Shed Shell: Holder may switch out even when trapped by another Pokemon, or by Ingrain. The item is consumed after switching out.
Shell Bell: If activated, holder’s next attack recovers 50% of damage dealt.
Snowball: Raises holder's Attack by 1 if hit by an Ice-type attack and halves its damage.
Starf Berry: If activated, raises two random stats by 1 stage. Both boosts cannot go to a single stat.
Sticky Barb: At the end of the turn, holder loses 1/6 max HP.
Terrain Extender: If holder activates any Terrain by an ability or move, the item is consumed and the Terrain lasts for 8 turns.
Thick Club: If activated, raises Cubone and Marowak’s Atk by 2 stages.
Utility Umbrella: If activated, any weather in effect lasts for -1 turn. If used on the last turn of weather, the weather ends.
Wide Lens: If activated, holder’s next move has a 50% chance to hit.
Zoom Lens: If activated, holder’s next move bypasses accuracy checks, but holder moves last in its priority bracket.
Items that boost a certain move type’s damage: If activated, boosts damage of user’s next move of that typing by 30%. That turn only.
(Items with the effect above are Black Glasses, Charcoal, Dragon Fang, Hard Stone, Magnet, Metal Coat, Miracle Seed, Mystic Water, Never-Melt Ice, Odd Incense, Poison Barb, Rock Incense, Rose Incense, Sea Incense, Sharp Beak, Silk Scarf, Silver Powder, Soft Sand, Spell Tag, Twisted Spoon, Wave Incense, and all Plates.)
All Memories are unaffected, but RKS System will allow Silvally to use Plates to change forms. They’ll also change Multi-Attack’s typing.
NEW ITEMS!!!
Beast Ball: Grants the Beast Boost ability to holder. Item vanishes after one boost.
Quick Ball: On switch-in, raises holder’s Spe by 1 stage.
Poké Ball: On switch-in, raises holder’s Sp. Atk by 1 stage.
Park Ball/Dream Ball/Dusk Ball: If activated by Ditto, raises Atk/Sp. Atk/Sp. Def by 1 stage. The boost is reversed after 4 turns.
Flower Sweet: If the weather is Sun, raises holder’s Def by 1 stage.
Berry Sweet: If the weather is Rain, raises holder’s Sp. Def by 1 stage.
Clover Sweet: If the weather is Sandstorm, raises holder’s Def by 1 stage.
Star Sweet: If the weather is Hail, raises holder’s Sp. Def by 1 stage.
Unchanged items:
All Gems
Adrenaline Orb
Air Balloon
Berserk Gene
Blunder Policy
Eject Button
Eject Pack
Electric Seed
Focus Sash
Grassy Seed
Kee Berry
Maranga Berry
Mental Herb
Misty Seed
Power Herb
Psychic Seed
Red Card
Throat Spray
All other items are BANNED!!! They’re not single use so they’re gone. Also they’re useless :P
(really hoping I didn’t miss any items :| )
Moves such as Knock Off and the new Poltergeist are not as reliable as they are, especially with items that activate during switch-ins, but they are still somewhat relevant and good at punishing switches.
Here's a sample set:
Hawlucha @ Rusted Sword
Ability: Unburden
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Acrobatics
- High Jump Kick
- Filler
- Filler
Hawlucha is a great abuser of both Unburden and Acrobatics and will likely dominate the meta. It already gets +1 Attack and +2 Speed on switch-in and is likely to clean teams up during late-game all by itself. You don't even need to run Rusted Sword and could choose to run Liechi Berry instead so you don't get hit by Haze when switching in.
Another one:
Accelgor @ Poke Ball
Ability: Unburden
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Bug Buzz
- Knock Off
- Focus Blast
- Filler
After Unburden, the only threat is priority. Same reasoning as Hawlucha, you could run Petaya Berry if you're afraid of Haze.
Potential bans and threats: Rusted Sword/Poké Ball are great late game tools, which can be very threatening and hard to deal with. Unburden Pokémon get many new tools to work with, and the same goes for Acrobatics mons. Recycle might be too gimmicky to work, but it can be interesting. Recycle + Leppa is obviously BANNED.
New Clause: Item Clause
All items are somewhat unique and there are quite a good amount of alternatives for each of them, therefore limiting players to 1 of each is meant to incentivize some diversity in items.
Questions for the community: Are the item descriptions clear enough? Are any items underwhelming/overwhelming? Would this be fun to play? Should Mega Stones be allowed but lasting for a set amount of turns, similarly to Dynamax? What about TRs? I didn't even know TRs were implemented in Showdown...
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I couldn't fit this anywhere but as you might've seen in some item descriptions, they read "if activated". What this means is, you activate them much like Z-Moves or Mega Stones. A message about the item activating will pop up at the start of the turn it's activated, much like the message that shows up when you Mega Evolve.
Stall is GONE since all Status moves become Max Guard, which makes it a losing battle if your foe can Dynamax and you can't, which you really won't in order to retain your status moves, and honestly? I love it. This sounds really fun to play! Hazard removal will theoretically not be as frequent so I think GMax Copperajah will shine on many teams. But then again, Defog might be carried around on a bunch of teams since it becomes Max Guard when you DMax, which is really handy.Mentioned this in OM cord like forever ago but I wanted to get some feedback on what ti mentioned I should edit
Maximization
Metagame premise:
Dynamax is Permanent, and there is no limit to the amount of Pokemon you can Dynamax.
Potential Bans and Threats:
Not really able to pinpoint what exactly, but there are notable Fighting- and Poison- Types that might snowball too easily. OU banlist with Dynamax unbanned and the Maximization mod sounds like a good start.
Questions for the Community:
Does this sound like a fun ladder metagame? Does anything need to be tweaked balance-wise?
It's no secret I adore Multibility. I'm biased af here, but yessssss please.
This seems... odd. Maybe if everything is always Dynamaxed and can use Status moves (and Protect turns into Max Guard ig).Mentioned this in OM cord like forever ago but I wanted to get some feedback on what ti mentioned I should edit
Maximization
Metagame premise:
Dynamax is Permanent, and there is no limit to the amount of Pokemon you can Dynamax.
Potential Bans and Threats:
Not really able to pinpoint what exactly, but there are notable Fighting- and Poison- Types that might snowball too easily. OU banlist with Dynamax unbanned and the Maximization mod sounds like a good start.
Questions for the Community:
Does this sound like a fun ladder metagame? Does anything need to be tweaked balance-wise?
This would be a Pet Mod because of the modifications it makes to existing items effects. They cannot all be defined by one objective rule or mechanic modification and as such this would not be accepted. I don't think you can make most items one use without doing this either.Ok so I came up with a pretty silly idea for a new meta but I like it a lot
Single Use
Have you ever been swept by a mon and thought to yourself “If only their Choice item was gone…” or “I wish I’d predicted that switch-in and went for Knock Off…”? Well, this metagame’s for you!
Single Use works with a very simple premise: all items become single-use items. You use them and boom: they’re gone. Simple as that. But of course, some adjustments are made so they’re not as underwhelming.
(All the Gems from Gen 5 and Berserk Gene are now legal items btw)
List of all items and their (new) effects, if they’re not listed no changes occurred:
Absorb Bulb: Raises holder's Sp. Atk by 1 stage if hit by a Water-type attack and halves its damage.
Aguav/Figy/Iapapa/Mago/Wiki Berry: If activated, restores 50% of max HP.
Assault Vest: On switch-in, holder’s Sp. Def is raised by 1 stage.
Apicot/Ganlon/Liechi/Salac/Petaya Berry: If activated, boosts respective stat by 1.
Berries that halve supereffective damage: When hit by a [type in berry’s description] move, halves damage from moves of that type for 2 turns (that Pokémon only).
Berry Juice/Oran Berry/Sitrus Berry: If activated, restores 25% HP and heals all major status conditions (including Confusion).
Big Root: If activated, holder gains 1.5x HP from draining/Aqua Ring/Ingrain/Leech Seed/Strength Sap for 3 turns.
Binding Band: Holder’s first partial-trapping move deals 1/6 max HP damage per turn. Item is not consumed if move doesn’t connect or foe is immune to it.
Black Sludge: If holder is a Poison-type and this item is activated, restores 16.5% HP for 3 turns. If holder is not a Poison-type, loses 25% HP instead.
Bright Power/Lax Incense: Lowers foe’s accuracy by 50% for 1 turn.
Cell Battery: Raises holder's Atk by 1 stage if hit by an Electric-type attack and halves its damage.
Choice Band/Scarf/Specs: If activated, boosts the user’s Atk/Spe/SpA for 3 turns. The boost starts at 1.5x, but decreases to 1.3x on the second turn and 1.1x on the third turn.
Deep Sea Scale/Tooth: If activated, raises Clamperl’s Sp.Def/Sp.Atk by 2 stages.
Destiny Knot: If holder has its stats lowered or if it’s affected by effects such as Attract, Embargo or Taunt, foe is also affected.
Damp/Heat/Icy/Smooth Rock: If holder activates correspondent weather by an ability or move, the item is consumed and weather lasts for 8 turns.
Eviolite: On switch-in, raises holder’s Def and Sp. Def by 1 stage. Does not activate if holder cannot evolve.
Expert Belt: If activated, holder’s attacks that deal supereffective damage deal 1.3x damage.
Flame/Toxic Orb: Burns/Badly poisons holder at the end of the turn. The item is then consumed.
Focus Band: If activated, the holder will survive any attacks that would KO it, leaving it with 1 HP.
Full Incense/Lagging Tail: If activated, holder moves last in its priority bracket for 1 turn.
Grip Claw: Holder’s first partial-trapping move lasts 7 turns. Item is not consumed if it doesn’t connect or foe is immune to it.
Heavy-Duty Boots: When switching in, the holder is unaffected by hazards on its side of the field, but item is consumed. However, the item is not consumed if hazards would not affect the holder.
Iron Ball: On switch-in, lowers holder’s Spe by 2 and grounds holder.
King’s Rock/Razor Fang: If activated, holder's next move has an extra 50% chance to flinch foes. That turn only.
Lansat Berry/Leek (Farfetch’d/Sirfetch’d only)/Razor Claw/Scope Lens: If activated, holder gains the Focus Energy effect.
Leftovers: If activated, restores 16.5% HP to holder for 3 turns.
Leppa Berry: If activated, restores 10 PP to every move.
Life Orb: If activated, holder’s next move will deal 1.3x damage, but it loses 1/8 HP after the attack.
Light Ball: If activated, raises Pikachu and Raichu’s Atk and Sp.Atk by 1 stage.
Light Clay: Holder’s first screen move (Reflect/Light Screen/Aurora Veil) lasts for 8 turns.
Luminous Moss: Raises holder's Sp. Def by 1 stage if hit by a Water-type attack and halves its damage.
Macho Brace/Power items: On switch-in, lowers holder’s Spe by 2.
Metal Powder/Quick Powder: If activated by Ditto, raises Def/Spe by 1 stage. The boost is reversed after 4 turns.
Metronome: If activated, holder’s next move deals 1.5x damage if it was used by it last turn.
Muscle Band/Wise Glasses: If activated, boosts holder’s first physical/special move’s damage by 1.3x on the first turn, and lowers foe’s Def/Sp. Def by 1 stage on the second turn.
Protective Pads: Holder’s moves are protected from adverse contact effects for 1 turn (except Pickpocket).
Quick Claw: If activated, holder moves first in its priority bracket.
Ring Target: If activated, foe’s immunities granted by its typing are negated. The effect wears off if foe switches out.
Rocky Helmet: If holder is hit by a contact move, the attacker loses 1/4 of its max HP and the item is consumed.
Rusted Shield/Sword: On switch-in, raises holder’s Def/Atk by 1 stage.
Safety Goggles: Holder is immune to powder moves and damage from Sandstorm or Hail, but item is knocked off if holder is hit.
Shed Shell: Holder may switch out even when trapped by another Pokemon, or by Ingrain. The item is consumed after switching out.
Shell Bell: If activated, holder’s next attack recovers 50% of damage dealt.
Snowball: Raises holder's Attack by 1 if hit by an Ice-type attack and halves its damage.
Starf Berry: If activated, raises two random stats by 1 stage. Both boosts cannot go to a single stat.
Sticky Barb: At the end of the turn, holder loses 1/6 max HP.
Terrain Extender: If holder activates any Terrain by an ability or move, the item is consumed and the Terrain lasts for 8 turns.
Thick Club: If activated, raises Cubone and Marowak’s Atk by 2 stages.
Utility Umbrella: If activated, any weather in effect lasts for -1 turn. If used on the last turn of weather, the weather ends.
Wide Lens: If activated, holder’s next move has a 50% chance to hit.
Zoom Lens: If activated, holder’s next move bypasses accuracy checks, but holder moves last in its priority bracket.
Items that boost a certain move type’s damage: If activated, boosts damage of user’s next move of that typing by 30%. That turn only.
(Items with the effect above are Black Glasses, Charcoal, Dragon Fang, Hard Stone, Magnet, Metal Coat, Miracle Seed, Mystic Water, Never-Melt Ice, Odd Incense, Poison Barb, Rock Incense, Rose Incense, Sea Incense, Sharp Beak, Silk Scarf, Silver Powder, Soft Sand, Spell Tag, Twisted Spoon, Wave Incense, and all Plates.)
All Memories are unaffected, but RKS System will allow Silvally to use Plates to change forms. They’ll also change Multi-Attack’s typing.
NEW ITEMS!!!
Beast Ball: Grants the Beast Boost ability to holder. Item vanishes after one boost.
Quick Ball: On switch-in, raises holder’s Spe by 1 stage.
Poké Ball: On switch-in, raises holder’s Sp. Atk by 1 stage.
Park Ball/Dream Ball/Dusk Ball: If activated by Ditto, raises Atk/Sp. Atk/Sp. Def by 1 stage. The boost is reversed after 4 turns.
Flower Sweet: If the weather is Sun, raises holder’s Def by 1 stage.
Berry Sweet: If the weather is Rain, raises holder’s Sp. Def by 1 stage.
Clover Sweet: If the weather is Sandstorm, raises holder’s Def by 1 stage.
Star Sweet: If the weather is Hail, raises holder’s Sp. Def by 1 stage.
Unchanged items:
All Gems
Adrenaline Orb
Air Balloon
Berserk Gene
Blunder Policy
Eject Button
Eject Pack
Electric Seed
Focus Sash
Grassy Seed
Kee Berry
Maranga Berry
Mental Herb
Misty Seed
Power Herb
Psychic Seed
Red Card
Throat Spray
All other items are BANNED!!! They’re not single use so they’re gone. Also they’re useless :P
(really hoping I didn’t miss any items :| )
Moves such as Knock Off and the new Poltergeist are not as reliable as they are, especially with items that activate during switch-ins, but they are still somewhat relevant and good at punishing switches.
Here's a sample set:
Hawlucha @ Rusted Sword
Ability: Unburden
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Acrobatics
- High Jump Kick
- Filler
- Filler
Hawlucha is a great abuser of both Unburden and Acrobatics and will likely dominate the meta. It already gets +1 Attack and +2 Speed on switch-in and is likely to clean teams up during late-game all by itself. You don't even need to run Rusted Sword and could choose to run Liechi Berry instead so you don't get hit by Haze when switching in.
Another one:
Accelgor @ Poke Ball
Ability: Unburden
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Bug Buzz
- Knock Off
- Focus Blast
- Filler
After Unburden, the only threat is priority. Same reasoning as Hawlucha, you could run Petaya Berry if you're afraid of Haze.
Potential bans and threats: Rusted Sword/Poké Ball are great late game tools, which can be very threatening and hard to deal with. Unburden Pokémon get many new tools to work with, and the same goes for Acrobatics mons. Recycle might be too gimmicky to work, but it can be interesting. Recycle + Leppa is obviously BANNED.
New Clause: Item Clause
All items are somewhat unique and there are quite a good amount of alternatives for each of them, therefore limiting players to 1 of each is meant to incentivize some diversity in items.
Questions for the community: Are the item descriptions clear enough? Are any items underwhelming/overwhelming? Would this be fun to play? Should Mega Stones be allowed but lasting for a set amount of turns, similarly to Dynamax? What about TRs? I didn't even know TRs were implemented in Showdown...
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I couldn't fit this anywhere but as you might've seen in some item descriptions, they read "if activated". What this means is, you activate them much like Z-Moves or Mega Stones. A message about the item activating will pop up at the start of the turn it's activated, much like the message that shows up when you Mega Evolve.
You missed fairandbalancedclickAirstream.exe.Mentioned this in OM cord like forever ago but I wanted to get some feedback on what ti mentioned I should edit
Maximization
Metagame premise:
Dynamax is Permanent, and there is no limit to the amount of Pokemon you can Dynamax.
Potential Bans and Threats:
Not really able to pinpoint what exactly, but there are notable Fighting- and Poison- Types that might snowball too easily. OU banlist with Dynamax unbanned and the Maximization mod sounds like a good start.
Questions for the Community:
Does this sound like a fun ladder metagame? Does anything need to be tweaked balance-wise?
