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Modern Warfare 2

Veedrock's saying that iDunno was mocking MW2's decision, which he was.

I don't know why the fuck everyone's complaining about which zombies are better than the others. Honestly, you can't compare "survival" modes in games (IE CoD's zombies, GoW's horde mode, etc) to survival/horror games like RE or Dead Space. They aren't even comparable! Sure, CoD zombies is fun, but it's by no means innovative or reason alone to buy the game. In my opinion it gets old pretty fast (I mean, only 2 maps? I guess 3 now but) but that's just an opinion.

Epic Games' take on the CoD franchise. Might not want to click if you're a CoD fanboy, but recommended otherwise!
 
-sucking Resident Evil's cock-

I could sit here all day and argue with you about how shitty Resident Evil is, but I know that it sucks and the vast majority of people I consult with don't care for Resident Evil or they also see how shitty it is just as I do, so I'll leave it at that. The whole arguement is my opinion on video games versus your opinion on video games, it won't go anywhere because we have opposing opinions

Epic Games' take on the CoD franchise. Might not want to click if you're a CoD fanboy, but recommended otherwise!

That is definitely one of the most boring videos I've ever watched. I like Call of Duty, but I'm not a fanboy, I'm just a person who likes quality videos

Thats because Left 4 Dead 2 came out dumbass

I was talking about the series motherfucker

Yeah that definitely wasnt bible thumping you were hearing last night

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I could sit here all day and argue with you about how shitty Resident Evil is, but I know that it sucks and the vast majority of people I consult with don't care for Resident Evil or they also see how shitty it is just as I do, so I'll leave it at that. The whole arguement is my opinion on video games versus your opinion on video games, it won't go anywhere because we have opposing opinions

You said it's not influential, which is blatantly wrong, and you haven't explained how it isn't influential in spite of the hundreds of games that either RE1 or RE4 (survival horror and shooter) have influenced. Learn to back up your arguments or stop representing Christianity whenever Morm baits you.

I guess if you asked your priest about Resident Evil he might make a frowny face, but of all the gaming circles I frequent so that I can actually know the shit I'm talking about, no one speaks ill of Resident Evil unless they weren't born when it came out. There's always a few bad eggs who don't like something because it is popular though. Maybe you are just in denial.
 
You said it's not influential, which is blatantly wrong, and you haven't explained how it isn't influential in spite of the hundreds of games that either RE1 or RE4 (survival horror and shooter) have influenced. Learn to back up your arguments or stop representing Christianity whenever Morm baits you.

I guess if you asked your priest about Resident Evil he might make a frowny face, but of all the gaming circles I frequent so that I can actually know the shit I'm talking about, no one speaks ill of Resident Evil unless they weren't born when it came out. There's always a few bad eggs who don't like something because it is popular though. Maybe you are just in denial.

How does religion have anything to do with this? But the truth about Resident Evil's influence is that it's only on one very specific subgenre of video games, which is of course survival horror. There are only a few survival horror game franchises that are recognized to this day. Resident Evil, Silent Hill, Clock Tower, and Fatal Frame are some of the most famous ones and since they represent such a small subgenre, it's easy to not be effected by these games and thus Resident Evil's influence
 
How does religion have anything to do with this? But the truth about Resident Evil's influence is that it's only on one very specific subgenre of video games, which is of course survival horror. There are only a few survival horror game franchises that are recognized to this day. Resident Evil, Silent Hill, Clock Tower, and Fatal Frame are some of the most famous ones and since they represent such a small subgenre, it's easy to not be effected by these games and thus Resident Evil's influence

Resident Evil 4's over the shoulder gameplay has been mimiced by countless third person shooters in the last five years.

Small subgenre? Is that why Morrowind sold 700,00 copies compared to REmake's 1.35 million?

Is that why Resident Evil has been bought over 5 million times, compared to Oblivion's 3 million?

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not a really deluded fuck, so I know that Oblivion was hella popular.

For more reference, Silent Hill 2 also outsold Morrowind. I'm not gonna check Clock Tower or Fatal Frame as those don't have the crossover popularity that RE and SH have, but you get the picture. One of the flagship western franchises is underperforming to Resident Evil, so I guess that makes western RPGs an even smaller subgenre than survival horror.

You might not like Resident Evil or even the genre, but that's a shitty reason to talk about things that you don't know anything about. By comparison, I OWN Black Ops and play it and like it's multiplayer, but Jesus fucking Christ best zombie game ever? Are you hiiigh? Are you stupid? Did you learn everthing about video games at a bible camp? I bet Grand Theft Auto just isn't popular either according to the local baptist church.

And instead of actually defending your backward viewpoint, you'll probably just say that I'm a fanboy for RE. Well the fact of the matter is, I love ALOT of video game franchises, alot more than you it seems. It is a challenge to name a series I don't know intricately, and when I see 13 year olds acting like you saying things like "PS2? That system must have sucked because only noobs play the PS3" "What is Knights of the Old Republic? That sounds like a gay game" "Nobody ever played survival horror games, duuuuuuurr" it just makes me cry like the sad indian who saw the landfills. There are more than 2 or 3 genre of video game that are all fantastic and have good and bad games. Just because you've never played a RE game and your idiot friends are just as ignorant about it, doesn't mean you shouldn't ever pick one up. You will have fun. They became popular and influential for a reason. They are delightfully fun games. You are missing out. That is the worst part.


I didn't bring it up either but House of the Dead is a pretty fucking popular arcade shooter, it had a wii sequel not too long ago that was better than CoD zombies. I made a game with zombies in it is fun and about as intricate and with the same mileage as CoD zombies. You didn't even mention the Red Dead zombies expansion which for DLC you'll actually get alot more gametime out of than CoD zombies, and is quite fun.
 
WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH MODERN WARFARE 2?
Nobody likes mw2, so let this thread die and start another thread to flame each other for thinking your favorite game sucks.
Or whatever the fuck you guys are talking about.
 

I'm not saying that Resident Evil didn't and doesn't do well, I'm just saying how it fits into one tiny subgenre. Elder Scrolls games may not have sold as much for the sole reason that Morrowind and Oblivion are fantasy RPGs which is an insanely popular type of game with tons of competition. If you want a survival horror game, you don't have much to pick from.
By the way I hate GTA
And I never said that Black Ops or any Call of Duty game has the best zombie mode, I'm just saying that it Black Ops Zombies is not bad. My favorite zombie games right now would be the Dead Rising series and Plants vs. Zombies, which are an action adventure and a turret defense respectively. I don't think zombies should be confined to a single genre really. And the closest I get to a survival horror game is the Condemned series, which is nothing at all like Resident Evil

To VKCA, this has nothing to do with Modern Warfare 2
 
i like mw2

in fact i love it

but i just think blops zombies makes blops better

so by standard logic i also love blops
 
I'm not saying that Resident Evil didn't and doesn't do well, I'm just saying how it fits into one tiny subgenre. Elder Scrolls games may not have sold as much for the sole reason that Morrowind and Oblivion are fantasy RPGs which is an insanely popular type of game with tons of competition. If you want a survival horror game, you don't have much to pick from.
By the way I hate GTA
And I never said that Black Ops or any Call of Duty game has the best zombie mode, I'm just saying that it Black Ops Zombies is not bad. My favorite zombie games right now would be the Dead Rising series and Plants vs. Zombies, which are an action adventure and a turret defense respectively. I don't think zombies should be confined to a single genre really. And the closest I get to a survival horror game is the Condemned series, which is nothing at all like Resident Evil

To VKCA, this has nothing to do with Modern Warfare 2

So you admit that you have no experience with survival horror.

Also, Morrowind and Oblivion are western rpgs. That is by itself a tiny subgenre under the massive popularity of jrpgs, though that trend has been swinging in western RPGs favor in the past 5 years. For instance, Oblivion was the first truly popular Elder Scrolls game, even if it's not the fan favorite.

5 Million Units still makes RE4 one of the best selling games of all time, and that's because it was noted for it's crossover success, appealing to people who would normally not like to branch beyond the one genre that they feel comfortable with.

Again, I constantly get the feeling that you don't into account any game history from more than 5 years ago. In it's heyday, Resident Evil had 3 acclaimed games across 2 systems, and Resident Evil 2 was massively popular in the late 90s, and this was back when Survival Horror wasn't a genre so much as Resident Evil and a few copycats. Resident Evil 2 also sold 5 million copies, back when Survival Horror didn't have this niche fan base you are basing your argument on.

Resident Evil is Capcom's best selling franchise, edging out fighting games, action games, platformers, and rpgs.

Resident 5 on the other hand, not really culturally significant. So if that's all you are basing your opinion on, well, stop it.
 
If MW2 had developer support like Black Ops does, it might have been better than CoD4. With nerfs to Commando, OMA, Danger Close, spawns, blah, so many people would still be playing it similar to how it was about 50-50 between CoD4 and WaW.

So yeah, MW3, we need the MW2 engine 'cause it had flawless hit detection, developer support, and pretty maps 'cause blops looks dull. :/
 
If MW2 had developer support like Black Ops does, it might have been better than CoD4. With nerfs to Commando, OMA, Danger Close, spawns, blah, so many people would still be playing it similar to how it was about 50-50 between CoD4 and WaW.

So yeah, MW3, we need the MW2 engine 'cause it had flawless hit detection, developer support, and pretty maps 'cause blops looks dull. :/


No what we need is a stable company willing to make an ORIGINAL COD.

Not IW replacements trying to mimic CoD4, in hopes of selling it because it's a sequel to the one of the best games.
 
I honestly liked the maps in Black Ops about ten times more than in MW2, and the new dlc looks pretty damn sweet too.
 
Not IW replacements trying to mimic CoD4, in hopes of selling it because it's a sequel to the one of the best games.

You mean exactly what we're gonna get?

And vF, I dunno, Black Ops maps were lacking for me. There is no map that I like to play and I hate playing Nuketown (which is a shame, it's the only visually pleasing map to me.)

There were maps I disliked in MW2, but I'd trade that any day for having maps to look forward to unlike BlOps. I'll play Rundown's camp fest if it meant being able to play something like Invasion or Skidrow. I guess the fact I want highs and lows opposed to pure balance in the maps and things that look nice (like what Stadium does in the map pack) are both personal preferences.
 
Can we let this topic die everyone knows CoD:4 was the only good CoD title from this generation and vonFiedler is obviously correct. LET MY BIAS CAUSE THE STIR OF A THOUSAND TROLLS. MY BODY IS READY.

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i like mw2

in fact i love it

but i just think blops zombies makes blops better

so by standard logic i also love blops
I couldn't agree more. MW2 is by far one of the most successful games ever. Just like cod4 was so far ahead of its day: so (is/was) mw2. People don't like it because it's adicting and frustrating to play at times. But I bet everyone who bashes mw2 has over a day played, I know I do.

I actually clicked on this thread to see some info on the ps3 console. I own both systems, and ps3 is hacked beyond belief. Impossible to play, I got completely demoted on my account earlier. IW is meant to be bringing out a new security patch "soon" - patching is one aspect where treyarch are much better.

As for mw3 - IW has lot around 40 of its members and is no longer capable of doing a new game. I think sledgehammer (?) is developing the story and another company is focusing on multiplayer. But honestly, change the maps and a few guns, get rid of stupid exploits and I'd buy mw2 again. The engine is just amazing, and far superior to blops. The only problems IW or whoever makes it would have to fix are more along the lines of game balance, along with improved security.
 
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