Ok I see. I guess the game always uses slots 6 and 7 for changing pokemon in various areas (I know Trophy Garden also uses slots 6 and 7). Thanks for helping me out!
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Ok I see. I guess the game always uses slots 6 and 7 for changing pokemon in various areas (I know Trophy Garden also uses slots 6 and 7). Thanks for helping me out!
Hey everyone.
Lately, I have been reading about Hg/Ss RNG a lot. I've already mastered Nature and Shiny RNG in Pearl, but I'm not sure if I should continue to IV RNG in my Pearl or Hg. Which is easier? Can anyone give pros and cons of IV RNG on both sides?
Lately, I have been reading about Hg/Ss RNG a lot. I've already mastered Nature and Shiny RNG in Pearl, but I'm not sure if I should continue to IV RNG in my Pearl or Hg. Which is easier? Can anyone give pros and cons of IV RNG on both sides?
RNG on HG/SS is widely considered to be easier due to there being only ONE moving NPC - as opposed to the 3 or so in DPPt.
Pros of HG/SS:
Only one NPC- so it's easier to hit your frame
Cons of HG/SS:
You HAVE to hit your delay twice...once for nature/ability/gender/shininess and another for IVs.
Imo, the pro wins here considering those moving NPCs really upsets you in DPPt breeding.
Pros of HG/SS:
Only one NPC- so it's easier to hit your frame
Cons of HG/SS:
You HAVE to hit your delay twice...once for nature/ability/gender/shininess and another for IVs.
Imo, the pro wins here considering those moving NPCs really upsets you in DPPt breeding.
Oh my god the cons are so true! But yeah, i havent RNGd on DPPt but HGSS isnt too bad, i just suck.
Well, I think I'll try HG then. I'm going to checkout BearsFans092's Tutorial and I'll get back to you guys with my results.
Ok, here's my question.
I have been able to successfully breed Shinies and natures etc without issue. But now I"m trying to catch something with specific IVs (For HIdden Power). Ive read through the article several times and the only thing I can discern is that the only variables it uses are the year? The time finder is what I use for capturing if I'm not mistaken. And the only variables it lists are year, max frame and delay range.
Am I missing something? How do I know my target time if all it shows me is the year. Where is the connection to the seed I generated? Finding the initial seed doesnt seem to relate in any way to the time finder, unless I use seed to time, which wasnt listed in the article for capturing perfect pokemon.
I guess Im just overall confused.
I have been able to successfully breed Shinies and natures etc without issue. But now I"m trying to catch something with specific IVs (For HIdden Power). Ive read through the article several times and the only thing I can discern is that the only variables it uses are the year? The time finder is what I use for capturing if I'm not mistaken. And the only variables it lists are year, max frame and delay range.
Am I missing something? How do I know my target time if all it shows me is the year. Where is the connection to the seed I generated? Finding the initial seed doesnt seem to relate in any way to the time finder, unless I use seed to time, which wasnt listed in the article for capturing perfect pokemon.
I guess Im just overall confused.
you'll get the hang of it. I really have a hard time hitting it too. :|
seeds occur at multiple times. You just have to pick one. It gives you the seed in the capture tab. use it in the seed to time window to find the rest.
Hi some problems i encountered on rng.
Whenever i hit my delay (mostly) i get the elm call search function to say "no match was found..." Also i don't have any roamers, and such but when i soft-reset for the ivs, i always go to a frame higher than 3. is that normal, am i missing something. But when i get the egg, they match the ivs.
A question: 1) i want to confirm my whole elm call sequence, so it's like i get p,k,e,p,k,e,e; when in fact it's k,k,k,k,p,k,e,p,k,e,e,k Since im on frame 5 and my target is 12. I wanted to get the egg quickly after, then say i want to verify my target by calling some more after getting the egg i dont get (k,k,k,k,k) i get other random elm call responses. So, does calling match the elm calls search function or does that make the other calls, random and not match my target seed which in fact happened to me?
I miss getting a frame of 3, makes my calls more convenient, more sure that i hit my seed. :|
Whenever i hit my delay (mostly) i get the elm call search function to say "no match was found..." Also i don't have any roamers, and such but when i soft-reset for the ivs, i always go to a frame higher than 3. is that normal, am i missing something. But when i get the egg, they match the ivs.
A question: 1) i want to confirm my whole elm call sequence, so it's like i get p,k,e,p,k,e,e; when in fact it's k,k,k,k,p,k,e,p,k,e,e,k Since im on frame 5 and my target is 12. I wanted to get the egg quickly after, then say i want to verify my target by calling some more after getting the egg i dont get (k,k,k,k,k) i get other random elm call responses. So, does calling match the elm calls search function or does that make the other calls, random and not match my target seed which in fact happened to me?
I miss getting a frame of 3, makes my calls more convenient, more sure that i hit my seed. :|
If you land on frame 5 and target frame 12 that's 6 or 7 calls which should be enough to verify your seed and delays, if you check the seed to time results adjacent to your target delay. If you really want to verify the whole sequence you have to do it before grabbing the egg, and you'd have to choose a seed with a higher target frame, but from my experience (I've bred a lot on SS) frame 12 is a fine minimum and a few calls should allow you to find your delay. You might want to use roamers as it makes the whole process so much easier (and the combination of locations + calls should help you verify your seed with lower frames).
thanks for clarifying cedr_c. Really, i haven't tried successfully with roamers as i have been rng'ing for the past weeks without them. But i know they make the process more, accurate :). Is it normal to get a frame of 4 and up, i've noticed that 3 should be standard. Yeah did 7 calls and landed on my target. :D
When HGSS breeding (or catches for that matter, but I'm assuming since it's a low frame, that it's a breed) there is 1 NPC that is moving that does advance your frames, so that me the reason he is having odd frame advancement, or that's just how his roamers are affecting his frames.
the wandering NPC on route 34 shouldnt be a problem as it's moving slow and if you leave the pokegear and the bag menu by pressing B with your other thumb on the A button, unless you're real slow, the NPC shouldn't advance the frame. In the almost hundred poke's I RNG bred on HG or SS I only missed my egg frame a couple times and it was because my finger slipped somehow. Unlike DPPt where leaving the menu had a little lag, in HGSS it's instantaneous so you can smash A once you pressed B, which is another point why HGSS RNG breeding is so much easier to me.
Sometimes he can get you because even a 1/15 of a second is when he moves, it all depends on when you save, and when he is going to move next. Out of the crap ton of pokes I've done, I've had it happen to me 4-5 times, it's just down to how he feels like moving that time you save.
How true. Lol. I don't mind hitting 2 different seeds for a Shiny Poke with good IV's via breeding. I gave up on my Platinum game's breeding career. Plus frame advancing in HGSS is way easier, though the Radio-way is sometimes inconsistent.
The delay on my AR is an even number (484), and the delay I want to hit is, let's say, 639. I increase the year to 2011 and my target delay decreases to 638, but then my AR's delay increases to 485.
Essentially, every time I change up a year to change my target delay, my AR's delay also changes to an odd or even number I can't hit. Can the AR actually hit any delay (odd or even), or do I have to find a way around it?
I gave up trying to catch Ho-oh in a Luxury Ball, even when False Swiping it to 1 Hp and putting it to sleep constantly. It never catches Ho-oh, so I'd like to try AR captures.
Essentially, every time I change up a year to change my target delay, my AR's delay also changes to an odd or even number I can't hit. Can the AR actually hit any delay (odd or even), or do I have to find a way around it?
I gave up trying to catch Ho-oh in a Luxury Ball, even when False Swiping it to 1 Hp and putting it to sleep constantly. It never catches Ho-oh, so I'd like to try AR captures.
I don't know what you mean by AR captures, but as for changing the date on your DS to accomodate a different delay, you are only changing the date on your DS, not on RNG Reporter. You leave RNG reporter on the same year as before (let's say 2010). But if you have a target delay that's odd and on 2010 your DS always gives you even responses, you still keep RNG Reporter at 2010. You simply change your DS year to 2009 or 2011.
Capturing Pokes with an AR.
Well, I'm calibrating to see what my delay is when using the AR. My normal delay is 501 without the AR. With the AR, it switches between odd/even when I change the year on my DS.
Let's say my target delay is 639, and I capture a Poke with my AR. I input the information in RNGReporter, and I get a calibrated delay of 484. Well, I then change the year up or down by one to get an even target delay right? Well, I increase the year by 1, and then my target delay becomes 638. But when I capture a Poke with the AR again to see if my calibrated delay is still 484, it suddenly increases to 485.
I always put the information I have when capturing a Poke on RNGReporter (if I caught something on year 2010, I'm going to put 2010 as the year I captured it).
Or you could scroll up 5 times down and 5 times up on the Menu screen to change even delays to odd and vice versa. Works for me because my cartridge can only generate odd delays.