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My seconds are ok 14 seconds or on rare occasions 13, My delay it's not standart..it ranges from 600 to 612
Try using 14 seconds and 600 delay. Use flips to verify rather than IVs. a +/-100 delays and -1/+0 seconds is usually a required at first in your seed to time window. Search there to see what you hit.
 
Try using 14 seconds and 600 delay. Use flips to verify rather than IVs. a +/-100 delays and -1/+0 seconds is usually a required at first in your seed to time window. Search there to see what you hit.
I am using flips to verify my Delay...the problem is the iv spread i searched is 610 ...is there anyway to achieve that?
 
I know it sounds weird, but this is how I did it just recently. What happens is that the ID/SID is set about 3 seconds after you hit the A button. It is impossible to target that exact time because it's not set when you hit the button but rather a fixed period of time afterwards. The time at that point is what matters, not when you hit the button.

tl;dr trust me, it works =D
Ok I tried that but I hit a delay of 5911 instead of my target 5831 delay ?? How is this happening ????
 

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Ok I tried that but I hit a delay of 5911 instead of my target 5831 delay ?? How is this happening ????
Meh.. I may have got the calibration wrong because I couldn't remember it. You got the correct second though, right? Anyway, just put 5911 in the update box and you'll be fine.


@Loukas
How big of a range are you using when searching in RNG Reporter?
 
Meh.. I may have got the calibration wrong because I couldn't remember it. You got the correct second though, right? Anyway, just put 5911 in the update box and you'll be fine.


@Loukas
How big of a range are you using when searching in RNG Reporter?
592-612 range 14 secs
 
Diabolico: Save before you enter the ruins the second time with Cynthia or inside the ruin one step before you activate the event that gives you the egg. RNG as normal on Method 1.

If you opt for the first option, then your frame may advance but you can still exit and do other stuff whereas if you save one step before collecting the egg, you're kinda at the mercy of the RNG until you get it. It's up to you.

At the very end of this post: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2559264&postcount=2
 
You're searching to see which delay you're actually hitting so you can adjust your timer based upon that.
That is what i am trying to say...i am not hitting something specific..i am hitting between 600-614 but not 610..i have only hit once...Is ZOMGTimer gonna help?
 
That is what i am trying to say...i am not hitting something specific..i am hitting between 600-614 but not 610..i have only hit once...Is ZOMGTimer gonna help?
If you're using DPPt, probably not. For HGSS it would help tremendously.

And you just have to get used to the feeling of hitting certain delays. If you find that you're always hitting one delay, then change the year on your DS (increasing by one year decreases the delay by one, and decreasing the year by one increases the delay by one) so your target delay is the one you're usually hitting.
 
If you're using DPPt, probably not. For HGSS it would help tremendously.

And you just have to get used to the feeling of hitting certain delays. If you find that you're always hitting one delay, then change the year on your DS (increasing by one year decreases the delay by one, and decreasing the year by one increases the delay by one) so your target delay is the one you're usually hitting.
OK I will try and see..
 
So, am I crazy, or has anyone heard/experienced a cart being *stuck* on even delays?

I have an old beat-up, Yorkie-chewed-on Diamond cart, that still functions quite well, but no matter the configuration (Year/GBA cart), I can only hit even delays. Altering the aforementioned variables still alters the even/odd for my platinum/HGSS carts, but not this singular Diamond cart.
 
So, am I crazy, or has anyone heard/experienced a cart being *stuck* on even delays?

I have an old beat-up, Yorkie-chewed-on Diamond cart, that still functions quite well, but no matter the configuration (Year/GBA cart), I can only hit even delays. Altering the aforementioned variables still alters the even/odd for my platinum/HGSS carts, but not this singular Diamond cart.
All my carts except my diamond carts have even delay
My diamond cart have both even and odd (for some reason)

If you need to hit an odd frame just change the year by one so the target delay is even

@Winters Zombie
I thought so, just didnt fact check that
 
Normally Diamond and Pearl are supposed to have mixed delays.
Plat, HGSS are supposed to stick to just one.
What I find more odd about all of this, is that I've done extensive RNG abuse on all of my carts, and don't think I've ever experienced a stuck delay. From ID/SID abuse, to CP/BPs, I've always experienced the odd/even switch with year/GBA cart. Until this afternoon, I would have sworn to you with 100% certainty that all of my Pokemon carts behaved in this manner, being mixed delays.

It's not that big of an issue, I was simply using my Diamond cart for hexflawless WC (fb100958 is vastly superior to the how to catch perfect WC listed frame, btw, Frame 26!), so it's just a minor annoyance having pokemon from the past/future.

On the subject of WC, I noticed that the 'fairly comprehensive list of low frame usable spreads' listed in the RNG guide is, well, terrible. So, being bored and having 20+ WCs to RNG before Celebii is released:

Search for: 31/30/30/31/30/31 HP ICE 70
PID: 01a0298d (JOLLY, ability 1) 31/30/30/31/31/31 (Seed: 18050422 Method 1: 2, J (synch): None, J (no synch): None, K (synch): None, K (no synch): None) HP ICE 70
PID: 8287722d (RASH, ability 1) 31/30/30/31/31/31 (Seed: cf070985 Method 1: 6, J (synch): 1, J (no synch): None, K (synch): None, K (no synch): None) HP ICE 70
PID: f1951463 (NAIVE, ability 1) 31/30/30/31/31/31 (Seed: 4a120f68 Method 1: 8, J (synch): 1, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 1, K (no synch): None) HP ICE 70

Search for: 30/30/30/30/30/30 HP GRASS 70
PID: 1e9a7a07 (JOLLY, ability 1) 30/31/31/30/31/31 (Seed: 8b040e94 Method 1: 74, J (synch): 47, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 49, K (no synch): 63) HP GRASS 70
PID: 61852bb1 (HARDY, ability 1) 30/30/31/30/31/31 (Seed: 72130786 Method 1: 11, J (synch): 2, J (no synch): None, K (synch): None, K (no synch): None) HP GRASS 70
PID: e26d7450 (MILD, ability 0) 30/30/31/30/31/31 (Seed: 0a0002df Method 1: 5, J (synch): 4, J (no synch): None, K (synch): None, K (no synch): None) HP GRASS 70
PID: 9f81c2a6 (BASHFUL, ability 0) 30/31/31/30/31/31 (Seed: e9100c18 Method 1: 107, J (synch): 85, J (no synch): 86, K (synch): 94, K (no synch): 98) HP GRASS 70
PID: 86d986ab (DOCILE, ability 1) 31/31/30/30/31/31 (Seed: 351205a8 Method 1: 29, J (synch): 26, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 24, K (no synch): None) HP GRASS 70

Search for: 30/30/30/30/30/30 HP FIRE 70
PID: f6cef180 (LONELY, ability 0) 31/31/30/30/31/30 (Seed: 31150781 Method 1: 42, J (synch): 7, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 7, K (no synch): None) HP FIRE 70
PID: c16f815c (HARDY, ability 0) 30/30/31/30/31/30 (Seed: 2b120335 Method 1: 14, J (synch): 3, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 5, K (no synch): None) HP FIRE 70
PID: 66c35c56 (MODEST, ability 0) 31/31/30/30/31/30 (Seed: bd000cb4 Method 1: 57, J (synch): 4, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 6, K (no synch): None) HP FIRE 70
PID: d2625f26 (GENTLE, ability 0) 31/30/31/30/31/30 (Seed: ae170b3a Method 1: 4, J (synch): None, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 3, K (no synch): None) HP FIRE 70
PID: 408738bd (LAX, ability 1) 30/30/31/30/31/30 (Seed: c7060c32 Method 1: 138, J (synch): 121, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 121, K (no synch): 123) HP FIRE 70

Search for: 30/30/30/30/30/30 HP PSYCHIC 70
PID: 9e9e4d8f (GENTLE, ability 1) 31/31/30/31/31/30 (Seed: 190e0e4f Method 1: 32, J (synch): 1, J (no synch): 3, K (synch): 1, K (no synch): None) HP PSYCHIC 70
PID: 8b2598fe (SASSY, ability 0) 31/30/31/31/31/30 (Seed: 0a040763 Method 1: 138, J (synch): 1, J (no synch): 103, K (synch): 3, K (no synch): 7) HP PSYCHIC 70
PID: 0a3d505e (BOLD, ability 0) 31/30/31/31/31/30 (Seed: a00a0eb4 Method 1: 2, J (synch): 1, J (no synch): None, K (synch): None, K (no synch): None) HP PSYCHIC 70
PID: 466a5615 (CAREFUL, ability 1) 30/31/31/31/31/30 (Seed: 4b140a84 Method 1: 46, J (synch): 3, J (no synch): 33, K (synch): 7, K (no synch): 15) HP PSYCHIC 70
PID: 1b302e28 (LONELY, ability 0) 31/30/31/31/31/30 (Seed: 77010ce7 Method 1: 50, J (synch): 23, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 23, K (no synch): None) HP PSYCHIC 70

Search for: 30/30/30/30/30/30 HP WATER 70
PID: 0e8f64dd (BASHFUL, ability 1) 30/31/31/30/31/30 (Seed: d2110c3d Method 1: 71, J (synch): 60, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 58, K (no synch): None) HP WATER 70
PID: 4aac80f4 (JOLLY, ability 0) 31/30/30/30/31/31 (Seed: 50130ede Method 1: 67, J (synch): 60, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 54, K (no synch): 58) HP WATER 70
PID: b9b9232a (SASSY, ability 0) 31/30/30/30/31/31 (Seed: c40f09ea Method 1: 110, J (synch): 91, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 91, K (no synch): None) HP WATER 70
PID: 7d9c0713 (BRAVE, ability 1) 30/31/31/30/31/30 (Seed: eb0105a0 Method 1: 29, J (synch): 4, J (no synch): 12, K (synch): 2, K (no synch): None) HP WATER 70

Search for: 30/30/30/30/30/30 HP ELECTRIC 70
PID: 5fbaedf9 (SERIOUS, ability 1) 30/30/30/31/31/30 (Seed: da1604eb Method 1: 37, J (synch): 36, J (no synch): 36, K (synch): 36, K (no synch): None) HP ELECTRIC 70
PID: 60a2b699 (JOLLY, ability 1) 30/30/30/31/31/30 (Seed: a9010990 Method 1: 115, J (synch): 2, J (no synch): 6, K (synch): 2, K (no synch): 54) HP ELECTRIC 70
PID: c1677e3a (TIMID, ability 0) 31/31/31/30/31/31 (Seed: 48080a94 Method 1: 5, J (synch): 2, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 4, K (no synch): None) HP ELECTRIC 70

Search for: 30/30/30/30/30/30 HP ROCK 70
PID: 07f0008b (MILD, ability 1) 30/31/30/31/30/30 (Seed: 6514072f Method 1: 64, J (synch): 7, J (no synch): 13, K (synch): 5, K (no synch): None) HP ROCK 70
PID: 056929c4 (BRAVE, ability 0) 30/30/31/31/30/30 (Seed: 39050875 Method 1: 37, J (synch): 2, J (no synch): 24, K (synch): 4, K (no synch): None) HP ROCK 70
PID: f4764bfa (BRAVE, ability 0) 30/30/31/31/30/30 (Seed: 41150eca Method 1: 89, J (synch): 88, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 88, K (no synch): None) HP ROCK 70
PID: 98e25e55 (QUIET, ability 1) 30/31/30/31/30/30 (Seed: 35000306 Method 1: 4, J (synch): 1, J (no synch): None, K (synch): None, K (no synch): None) HP ROCK 70

Search for: 30/30/30/30/30/30 HP GROUND 70
PID: aba079d6 (HASTY, ability 0) 30/31/31/30/30/31 (Seed: 050d0ab3 Method 1: 17, J (synch): 2, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 6, K (no synch): None) HP GROUND 70
PID: 9aad9c0c (MODEST, ability 0) 30/31/31/30/30/31 (Seed: 29060c8b Method 1: 68, J (synch): 55, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 57, K (no synch): None) HP GROUND 70
PID: 4adbb235 (NAIVE, ability 1) 30/30/30/31/30/30 (Seed: b40e0f05 Method 1: 113, J (synch): 77, J (no synch): 78, K (synch): 78, K (no synch): 88) HP GROUND 70
PID: 6f73741f (BASHFUL, ability 1) 31/30/31/30/30/31 (Seed: 970d06e0 Method 1: 118, J (synch): 65, J (no synch): 67, K (synch): 67, K (no synch): 87) HP GROUND 70
PID: 2c87c275 (CALM, ability 1) 31/31/31/30/30/31 (Seed: 1a050d86 Method 1: 137, J (synch): 80, J (no synch): 120, K (synch): 84, K (no synch): 86) HP GROUND 70

Search for: 30/30/30/30/30/30 HP Fighting 70
PID: 24da6766 (RASH, ability 0) 31/30/30/30/30/30 (Seed: 8f080462 Method 1: 44, J (synch): 3, J (no synch): 15, K (synch): 1, K (no synch): 5) HP FIGHTING 70
PID: d0140f52 (CALM, ability 0) 30/31/30/30/30/30 (Seed: f10d0635 Method 1: 106, J (synch): 29, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 23, K (no synch): 87) HP FIGHTING 70
PID: 72e11385 (GENTLE, ability 1) 31/31/30/30/30/30 (Seed: 8d1304b3 Method 1: 115, J (synch): None, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 114, K (no synch): None) HP FIGHTING 70
PID: 92ff40fc (BRAVE, ability 0) 30/30/30/30/30/30 (Seed: 3c0c0741 Method 1: 133, J (synch): 112, J (no synch): 120, K (synch): 112, K (no synch): 130) HP FIGHTING 70
PID: 13e7899c (CAREFUL, ability 0) 31/30/30/30/30/30 (Seed: e40c0ce0 Method 1: 33, J (synch): 6, J (no synch): 10, K (synch): 2, K (no synch): None) HP FIGHTING 70

Search for: 30/30/30/30/30/30 HP FLYING 70
PID: f9af2918 (NAUGHTY, ability 0) 30/31/31/30/30/30 (Seed: e9020583 Method 1: 71, J (synch): 2, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 8, K (no synch): 40) HP FLYING 70
PID: 0aa206e1 (ADAMANT, ability 1) 30/31/31/30/30/30 (Seed: 2a0604cf Method 1: 20, J (synch): 1, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 5, K (no synch): 17) HP FLYING 70
PID: 0b8acf81 (MODEST, ability 1) 31/31/31/30/30/30 (Seed: d8000d5c Method 1: 62, J (synch): 43, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 49, K (no synch): 53) HP FLYING 70
PID: 4e75812b (BRAVE, ability 1) 31/30/31/30/30/30 (Seed: 4e0c0e5e Method 1: 63, J (synch): 4, J (no synch): 4, K (synch): 2, K (no synch): 6) HP FLYING 70
PID: bd822361 (HASTY, ability 1) 31/30/31/30/30/30 (Seed: 3a120598 Method 1: 36, J (synch): 1, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 3, K (no synch): 7) HP FLYING 70

Search for: 30/30/30/30/30/30 HP BUG 70
PID: c27d781a (HARDY, ability 0) 30/31/31/31/30/30 (Seed: 71110ba6 Method 1: 3, J (synch): None, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 2, K (no synch): None) HP BUG 70
PID: 6bd8a529 (RASH, ability 1) 30/30/30/31/30/31 (Seed: 20120b8e Method 1: 19, J (synch): 6, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 2, K (no synch): None) HP BUG 70
PID: 4365c0b9 (CALM, ability 1) 31/31/31/31/30/30 (Seed: 50170ac7 Method 1: 117, J (synch): 112, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 110, K (no synch): None) HP BUG 70
PID: eda8b668 (HASTY, ability 0) 31/30/30/31/30/31 (Seed: d70a0ad2 Method 1: 61, J (synch): 54, J (no synch): 60, K (synch): 54, K (no synch): None) HP BUG 70
PID: d37055e4 (GENTLE, ability 0) 31/31/31/31/30/30 (Seed: ce080d6b Method 1: 13, J (synch): 8, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 2, K (no synch): None) HP BUG 70
PID: fdb3cb92 (DOCILE, ability 0) 31/30/30/31/30/31 (Seed: 5f05081c Method 1: 71, J (synch): 26, J (no synch): 26, K (synch): 28, K (no synch): 62) HP BUG 70
PID: 9743502d (ADAMANT, ability 1) 31/30/31/31/30/30 (Seed: f6010dc3 Method 1: 25, J (synch): 14, J (no synch): 14, K (synch): 14, K (no synch): None) HP BUG 70

Search for: 30/30/30/30/30/30 HP DRAGON 70
PID: ab3bc352 (SERIOUS, ability 0) 31/30/31/31/31/31 (Seed: df000b2e Method 1: 109, J (synch): 96, J (no synch): 108, K (synch): 100, K (no synch): None) HP DRAGON 70
PID: e768c909 (BOLD, ability 1) 30/31/31/31/31/31 (Seed: 53080fe8 Method 1: 119, J (synch): 70, J (no synch): 88, K (synch): 70, K (no synch): None) HP DRAGON 70
PID: 2c230bf2 (SASSY, ability 0) 31/30/31/31/31/31 (Seed: 2e150ffa Method 1: 2, J (synch): None, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 1, K (no synch): None) HP DRAGON 70
PID: 9a48e589 (QUIET, ability 1) 30/30/31/31/31/31 (Seed: c903051c Method 1: 6, J (synch): 3, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 1, K (no synch): 5) HP DRAGON 70
PID: aa53fab3 (SERIOUS, ability 1) 30/30/31/31/31/31 (Seed: ea090df4 Method 1: 90, J (synch): 71, J (no synch): 79, K (synch): 73, K (no synch): None) HP DRAGON 70

Search for: 30/30/30/30/30/30 HP POISON 70
PID: 35cc452f (ADAMANT, ability 1) 31/30/30/30/30/31 (Seed: 2f060b77 Method 1: 50, J (synch): 43, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 39, K (no synch): None) HP POISON 70
PID: 45d75a5a (QUIRKY, ability 0) 31/30/30/30/30/31 (Seed: e70d0e4e Method 1: 29, J (synch): 7, J (no synch): 8, K (synch): 2, K (no synch): 4) HP POISON 70
PID: 82046010 (MILD, ability 0) 30/31/30/30/30/31 (Seed: 900e0b4a Method 1: 77, J (synch): 72, J (no synch): None, K (synch): None, K (no synch): None) HP POISON 70
PID: 71f94ae6 (GENTLE, ability 0) 31/31/30/30/30/31 (Seed: 0d100498 Method 1: 59, J (synch): 54, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 54, K (no synch): 58) HP POISON 70
PID: 5d98cdb6 (SASSY, ability 0) 30/30/31/30/30/31 (Seed: e80007ad Method 1: 89, J (synch): 32, J (no synch): 84, K (synch): 30, K (no synch): 34) HP POISON 70

Search for: 30/30/30/30/30/30 HP GHOST 70
PID: 15743eee (SASSY, ability 0) 30/30/31/31/30/31 (Seed: 7d150810 Method 1: 132, J (synch): 49, J (no synch): 81, K (synch): 51, K (no synch): 53) HP GHOST 70
PID: 29d5bc1e (RELAXED, ability 0) 31/31/30/31/30/31 (Seed: ae0f0769 Method 1: 44, J (synch): 1, J (no synch): 5, K (synch): 1, K (no synch): 5) HP GHOST 70
PID: 165b078e (SERIOUS, ability 0) 31/30/31/31/30/31 (Seed: 890b06d2 Method 1: 135, J (synch): 124, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 126, K (no synch): 130) HP GHOST 70
PID: 274ee557 (BASHFUL, ability 1) 31/30/31/31/30/31 (Seed: 0d130947 Method 1: 17, J (synch): 2, J (no synch): 4, K (synch): 4, K (no synch): None) HP GHOST 70
PID: a6669cb8 (CAREFUL, ability 0) 30/30/31/31/30/31 (Seed: 8916044b Method 1: 52, J (synch): 11, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 13, K (no synch): 11) HP GHOST 70

Search for: 30/30/30/30/30/30 HP DARK 70
PID: e85091a9 (DOCILE, ability 1) 31/31/31/31/31/31 (Seed: fb100958 Method 1: 24, J (synch): 1, J (no synch): None, K (synch): 3, K (no synch): None) HP DARK 70
PID: e9375a48 (CALM, ability 0) 31/31/31/31/31/31 (Seed: 8a01082e Method 1: 119, J (synch): 2, J (no synch): 4, K (synch): 2, K (no synch): 4) HP DARK 70


These are all the 30+ Hidden Power 70 spreads that are sub-150 frame advancements. Almost every HP type has an odd/even representation (since WC abuse in DPPt is a pita in general). There were a very small handful of potentially usable spreads above frame 150, but I figured that anyone looking for a special/physical/mixed-specific spread would do that stuff on their own anyways. As always, just add 2 to the Method 1 frame.

PS. Yes, I know that there are numerous spreads that ignore 1-2 stats that are perfectly usable, I just like nice high numbers :nerd:
 

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