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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

Exploits said:
Why by 3?
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Good question. My guess is that since the game xor's my PID/SID with the poke's ID to see if it's going to be shiny or not, changing the PID by 3 will change 2 of the bits in my PID so that two of them don't give the correct result instead of 1 (just to make sure it isn't shiny I guess).

~Elite
 
dragonboy52 said:
In HG/SS apart from calling ELM what other ways can yo advance the frame for large numbers.
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Using the radio advances it by large numbers. Talking to the Pokemon too, but I don't recommend that as it's not consistent. Then again, you can simply keep track of this by talking to Elm. (Sorry, I'm used to advancing frames on an emulator)
 
OmegaForte said:
Using the radio advances it by large numbers. Talking to the Pokemon too, but I don't recommend that as it's not consistent. Then again, you can simply keep track of this by talking to Elm. (Sorry, I'm used to advancing frames on an emulator)
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Oh yeah, Why dindn't I think of that. I forgot you can keep track of what you advance by Elm calls.
1 Question.
If the RNG reporter shows the first 10 calls as
P,K,P,k,E,E,P,K,P,E
And using Radio I advance my Frame by 5 for example, Will the next 5 calls to ELM be E,P,K,P,E?
 
Is it safe to assume that Bulbasaur in HG is on frame 5? Because I have a decent shiny spread at 210, Calm natured, and I ended up 5 frames away, at a Bold, non-shiny one...

Edit: Yes, I just assured myself. Bulbasaur in HG is on frame 5. Because now..I'm the proud owner of a Female, Calm Natured, 31/14/28/26/28/31 Bulbasaur.
 
What is a 'roaming' Pokemon? Does Mesprit count if I haven't spoken to it yet (same with Cresselia)? Similarly, I haven't spoken to Oak yet in Eterna city so the bird trio aren't roaming either, right?

If so, then I just have Cresselia running round which I can fix easily.
 
.River said:
What is a 'roaming' Pokemon? Does Mesprit count if I haven't spoken to it yet (same with Cresselia)? Similarly, I haven't spoken to Oak yet in Eterna city so the bird trio aren't roaming either, right?

If so, then I just have Cresselia running round which I can fix easily.
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You should have killed of you roamers yes mespirit is a roamer. I think they respawn after the league but someone needs to confirm this with me.
 
Roaming Pokémon are Pokémon that 'roam' through the entire game. Well, on HG/SS, Entei and Raikou will be roaming in Johto, and Lati@s is roaming in Kanto, which means that every time you change route, they will do that too.

Hope it helped. :)
 
Okay thanks. I just checked, cresselia is still on its island, and mesprit is still in it's lake thing. It's platinum so I don't think there are other roamers. Since they're still on the island/lake, would they still count as 'a wandering pokemon'?
 
.River said:
Okay thanks. I just checked, cresselia is still on its island, and mesprit is still in it's lake thing. It's platinum so I don't think there are other roamers. Since they're still on the island/lake, would they still count as 'a wandering pokemon'?
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No, just check the app on the poketch to see if there are pokemon running around.
 
Okay, my friend is in the same position and we keep hitting frame 6 when we get the correct delay. Is there anything else that can alter the frame we hit? We are speaking to the deliveryman instantly, without pausing.
 
Okay, just checked the guide and it says that speaking to the deliveryman advances the RNG by 1, and the game starts on frame 1. Meaning that I need to advance the RNG by 3 to hit frame 5 surely? Is that even possible?
 
.River said:
Okay, just checked the guide and it says that speaking to the deliveryman advances the RNG by 1, and the game starts on frame 1. Meaning that I need to advance the RNG by 3 to hit frame 5 surely? Is that even possible?
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If your target is Frame 5 then you should advance the frame by 4 (2 Journal Flips)
 
That's what I've been doing. The first page says caught machoke. Then I flip away from it to a page which says 'got ____ from ____' (trade), then flip back to the machoke page. That surely counts as 4 advances. Then I press start and immediately speak to the delivery man. I have no roaming Pokemon, yet I always hit frame 6 (same with my friend). We're trying to RNG the shiny raikou from the recent wifi event, which has a locked nature - so do I need to follow different guides for this or something?
 
.River said:
That's what I've been doing. The first page says caught machoke. Then I flip away from it to a page which says 'got ____ from ____' (trade), then flip back to the machoke page. That surely counts as 4 advances. Then I press start and immediately speak to the delivery man. I have no roaming Pokemon, yet I always hit frame 6 (same with my friend). We're trying to RNG the shiny raikou from the recent wifi event, which has a locked nature - so do I need to follow different guides for this or something?
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I heard that having Caught/Defeated pokemon on your first page advances your frames differently.
 
My friend who's doing the exact same process as I am has a normal first page, so is then flipping to caught, flipping back to the first page, then flipping back to the caught page, and is having the same problem as me =\ .
 
.River said:
My friend who's doing the exact same process as I am has a normal first page, so is then flipping to caught, flipping back to the first page, then flipping back to the caught page, and is having the same problem as me =\ .
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Are you sure your hitting your delay?
And did you choose Wonddercard Ivs in the RNG reporter?
 
.River make sure your using Sandgem Mart as if its the frame and not your delay/time that is wrong then an NPC is usually to blame. Sandgem has only one NPC and I had a similar issue when I was trying to RNG my Entei.

Also just glancing through the last few pages, the journal is popping up right away correct?
 
I'm using the fight area mart which only has 1 moving NPC. Yes, the journal is popping up instantly (as in once I hit continue).
 
funny you should say the fight area as that was also the mart I was having issues at with entei. As soon as i switched to Sandgem I hit my frame within two resets.

And since you are hitting your delay/time and its just the frame issue I say its worth a shot.
 
I got a shiny spread, which gave me the delay of 783. I'm using a flashcart to RNG my Pokémon on this SS game with this shiny spread, but that delay gives me a second timer of 19 seconds, which it too short for my flashcart to load the game. What to do? I do not want to RNG it on an emulator.
 
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