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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

GoldenBanana said:
Well, no. At least, not really. I'm experienced with RSFrLg ESVs, but I'm pretty sure Emerald follows the same routine. Encounter slot values (ESVs) are tied to natures, which are kind of tied to IVs. So I'm thinking that if you use a syncher, you'll snap to the nature you want, but it's probably not going to be the spread you want. PID/IV spreads have only certain ESVs, and you're stuck with what you get. Some PID/IV spreads don't even appear in the wild. Sorry, that's just how it is. =\
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Hmm, I see. Thanks for answering my questions :D
 
esv's arent tied to natures

They are just like Method J/K, depending on how many times the spread can occur, there will be different ESVs with that PID/IV.
 
Zoap said:
Is Pokemon Search Party or Serial Radio Drama playing or is it Buena's Password? Buena's Password doesn't advance the frame at all. The other thing I can think of is that you haven't updated your radio card in Kanto, but I'm not sure that would effect it.
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I'm RNGing at 20:04, so it should be the Serial Radio Drama. I just checked, and I did update my Radio Card in Kanto. This is beginning to get really annoying.
 
hockeyguy605 said:
I still can't get the frame to advance for some reason. I've hit Frame 3 the last two times I tried. Both times I had the radio cursor in the middle and hit the bottom right button. I waited a second or two and then dragged it back to the middle. I did this 111 times (If I counted right). It didn't advance anything. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I let a few lines of the radio program show up before going back to the middle. Do I need to wait for the whole thing to go off? This is getting very frustrating.

Any advice would be helpful at this point.
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Ok, just reply to these question.
0. Can you make a save file of your game, preferably a save file compatible with action replay dsi or nds adapter plus. If you can do this I can help you extremely fast.

1a. How many roamers are currently roaming?
1b. Who is roaming and what were their save route?

*Note since the only way to verify the frame in Lance room is via roamer method, I'll assume that the you'll getting frame of 3 due to a roamer or 2(but I believe POJ already address that)

1C. What is the target date and time?

2. You have saved to be 1 step away from lance?

3. Can do you use eontime, pikatimer, or any other timer? If so can you hit high delays? Since this HGSS, I'll assume you are using a timer due to the normal delay being 488-500

4. Are you doing this from a cart or emulator?

I am a busy student and I play too much halo so I will reply back to this or another member will
 
Bruno Magno said:
Except for frame advancements (Poketch or radio) there are any differences on egg PID Abuse between DP, Platinum and HGSS?
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On RNG there are two parts: DPP (so i suppose DP and Platinum are the same) and HGSS, but the same seed matches the same results, so, there are any differences?

And, to hit a seed you must hit the second or only the minute?
 
Bruno Magno said:
On RNG there are two parts: DPP (so i suppose DP and Platinum are the same) and HGSS, but the same seed matches the same results, so, there are any differences?

And, to hit a seed you must hit the second or only the minute?
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Uhm, what are you asking exactly? What kind of differences are you wanting to know of, as there are a few.

As with every abuse you do, second, minute, hour, day, month, year.
With DPPt HGSS, you also have to account for a delay, which is a timer that goes at about 60 times a second. You also have to abuse for that, in which you will most likely need to use a timer.
 
Bruno Magno said:
On RNG there are two parts: DPP (so i suppose DP and Platinum are the same) and HGSS, but the same seed matches the same results, so, there are any differences?

And, to hit a seed you must hit the second or only the minute?
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You can use the same seed for both dppt and hgss but as for diffence
Dppt
You advance the egg pid by using happiness tap and coin flip

Hgss
You advance the egg pid by either calling some people like joey who advance the egg pid by 2 if its not a monday or by rejecting an egg(which may skip a frame)

The IV abuse for eggs are the same

also you use the journal to advance the frame in DPPT not poketech
use the poketech for egg pid advancement
 
What does it mean the "Calibration" column?
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I really do not know what you are doing
From what that look like, it may be delay or some sort of time
OmegaDount, Karpotics, and research or another user may be able to seed some light :(

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Wild guess emerald rng? If so, another user will have to answer any other question due to my lack of knowledge about it
 
I'm using the spreadsheet from this rng emerald guide:

Kaphotics said:
Emerald Egg PID Prediction

Use EmeraldEggPID.xlsm (spreadsheet)

Calibrate and put in your Calibration. The spreadsheet is tuned to use the Calibration so that you can actually see your calibrations on the frame you were told! (use the lower "Test" result). ID/SID optional, only if you want to see where you have shinies.

Bam, spits out the Frame, PID, Nature, Ability, GV, PID%6, Hittability, and Shiny depending on the Decision. You can filter everything you'd want in an egg.

The spreadsheet is for the first ~2.7 minutes.

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Code: 
Zari:      0x3CA4525B (503/527)   = 24 (English & Onyx GBA)
Zari:      0x01F71C18 (506/530)   = 24 (English & Onyx GBA)
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Everstone prediction is essentially impossible in Excel due to large number rounding, however using an Everstone would be the best way for someone to use existing IDs for a shiny PID.

If you want more than 2.7 minutes of prediction, output more PRNG from researcher and extend the hidden columns to your desired frame count.
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But the shiny column doesn't work.. how you can see..

however, the calibration column indicates my starting frame (i think). But I can calibrate it with Emloop, so what should I do with this damn column? xD

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Why my eepid results are so high? (high: 33122, low: 27851)
 
DarkChaos (HCZ) said:
Ok, just reply to these question.
0. Can you make a save file of your game, preferably a save file compatible with action replay dsi or nds adapter plus. If you can do this I can help you extremely fast.

1a. How many roamers are currently roaming?
1b. Who is roaming and what were their save route?

*Note since the only way to verify the frame in Lance room is via roamer method, I'll assume that the you'll getting frame of 3 due to a roamer or 2(but I believe POJ already address that)

1C. What is the target date and time?

2. You have saved to be 1 step away from lance?

3. Can do you use eontime, pikatimer, or any other timer? If so can you hit high delays? Since this HGSS, I'll assume you are using a timer due to the normal delay being 488-500

4. Are you doing this from a cart or emulator?

I am a busy student and I play too much halo so I will reply back to this or another member will
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0. No, I don't own an AR or NDS Adapter Plus.

1a. Two
1b. Raikou and Entei. I don't really remember the routes because I haven't attempted it in a day or so.
1c. 6/25/2010 20:10:50

2. You mean one step away from the little ramp that starts the automatic animation, right?

3. I use EonTimer and I can hit high delays, but this delay is only 639.

4. Cart
 
» Sasuke Uchiha said:
I'm using the spreadsheet from this rng emerald guide:



But the shiny column doesn't work.. how you can see..

however, the calibration column indicates my starting frame (i think). But I can calibrate it with Emloop, so what should I do with this damn column? xD

Edit: and
Why my eepid results are so high? (high: 33122, low: 27851)
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If you politely ask Zari about it maybe she can help. As for me I cannot open the speadsheet and cannot fully understand Zari calculation method
 
Ok so I was trying to capture the perfect Latios (interactable one in pewter), first time i stopped at the frame before the set i wanted, and the one i caught turned out to be 60 frames ahead. Tried again and it was 23 frames. Does leaving the radio on a channel advance the frame? Because i left the pokemon talk channel on after advancing the frame with it. And even so, i don't think that explains why i was 23 out, any ideas?
 
boyangfriday said:
Ok so I was trying to capture the perfect Latios (interactable one in pewter), first time i stopped at the frame before the set i wanted, and the one i caught turned out to be 60 frames ahead. Tried again and it was 23 frames. Does leaving the radio on a channel advance the frame? Because i left the pokemon talk channel on after advancing the frame with it. And even so, i don't think that explains why i was 23 out, any ideas?
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NPCs in Pewter City, after exiting the Pokégear you need to mash A to start the encounter ASAP.
 
1. Do you have any roaming pokemon?
2. The is an npc that advance the frame in Pewter, dont know why it would advance over 23, unless it was moving quick

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I have no roaming pokémon and I mashed the button as fast as possible. When i hit 60 frames over I was trying to do it 2 frames behind to account for the NPC because it effed me last time. I'll try again soon and see what happens. And make sure i don't have the radio playing.
 
The frame is 1261, so i'm just advancing it at 1261/17 then using elm to verify where i am. Getting to the frame i'm supposed to be at is no problem. But twice in a row now it's ended up 23 ahead, i guess the consistency is a good thing right?
 
It is
Ok some question
1. What is the seed, and is this seed shiny?
2. Can you use program such as the eontimer?
3. How many upper right type your doing?
4. As you posted, every upper right type is advancing you frame by 17 correct?
5. What is you calibrated delay and second?
 
1. The seed is 620A01F9
2. I cannot, i only use the rngreporter.
3. I'm not doing a set amount, i tend to do it in sets and then find out where i am and repeat the process.
4. I use 17 to be safe because 18 is the maximum, I wasn't sure how inconsistent it was.
5. Second: 13 Delay 485-495, i seem to hit 492 the most consistently right now with firered in so that's what I am using.
 
You are using method K, setting the encounter type to stationary
More question
1.What frame are you aiming for?
2.Are you using a sync?
Because I am currently see 31/17/31/31/31/31 for frame 1092 1114 1138

Also doing a set amount of taps is always good and make thing a bit more easier

ex: frame 1200 will approx 66-84 upper right taps then followed by verify you current frame and advance you frame with elm calls and then use either the lower right station or call elm to finishing advancing the frame
 
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