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This is really weird. I never not odd numbers, but now i get them quite frequently. I'll see if its normal tommorow, or try with a different date. I still find it strange. I also feel quite bad that i can't even do is right if the frame is already good. the frame is 2, and i have one runner out, so i shouldn't have to do another thing.

I hope it will work tommorow.
 
i know, but is is possible to determine the seed's ivs before the tapping starts?

You should read the OP again a bit, heh. o 3o
The Initial Seed has almost nothing to do with the IVs of the egg unless you're just catching a Magikarp to determine your delay. In that case, you'd of course need to determine the Magikarp's IVs, but you're not going to be psychic and pull out your future egg's IVs out of the air.

The process of making the egg shiny+nature+gender and the process of generating its IVs are separate.
 
Are these delays/seconds reasonable?:

Delay: 599
Seconds: 52

Delay: 605
Seconds: 13

Delay: 607
Seconds: 45

Delay: 609
Seconds: 44

Delay: 593
Seconds: 39

Delay: 605
Seconds: 27

Your delays look okay though it might be better for them to be even closer, but your seconds should be the same. It'll be really hard for you to hit what you want if your seconds aren't the same. :<
 
What exactly are the 'seconds' and how can I make them closer/the same?

The seconds represent the time it takes from when you first soft reset/start the game to exactly when you press the A button at continue. You need to mash A consistently. Normally it should be 14-15 seconds.

I don't think everyone realizes they need to reset at :00 of the new minute, sharp, either. *__*;
 
The IVs are defined AFTER the egg is taken from the hands of the old pimp... I mean, old man of the daycare.

The Shinyness is defined when the egg is generated. It's two really different things, there's no reason to want to mix those up before the taps. You have to select your shiny/nature/gender spread, do the taps, put the parents, walk until the old man is looking to the right, save, and get the egg.

After you confirm that it's indeed the one you wanted, you proceed to SR for IVs.

And the seconds do not represent the time it takes from soft reset to Continue, the seconds are simply the exact seconds that are on the DS clock WHEN you press 'A' on the continue screen. Please, do not confuse this, as those two are very different things. If you understand it, you are able to reach any second you want, even for the legends SR!
 
And the seconds do not represent the time it takes from soft reset to Continue, the seconds are simply the exact seconds that are on the DS clock WHEN you press 'A' on the continue screen. Please, do not confuse this, as those two are very different things. If you understand it, you are able to reach any second you want, even for the legends SR!

Ohoho, learn a new thing everyday *_*
I'd been abusing successfuly for egg IVs only, but now I see the light~
 
First, run the Time Finder, DPPt Capture tab. It will give you a list of shiny spreads for the year you choose, with the maximum offset and delay range you inputted. Then, you get the SEED (NOT PID, seed), open the "Seed to Time" window and click "Generate". It will give you all the possible dates/times you may get that seed in that year. However, as "delay+year" is a constant, if you want a different delay, you just has to change the year.

Say, to me, the seed 0E000282 returns a shiny Careful 31/31/30/13/31/08 spread at offset 4605. Using the Seed to Time window, among a lot of other dates, I get 2000/05/01, 00:09:00, delay 642. However, I cannot get this delay easily, so I change the year so I get a delay I'm used to. My best delay is 597 so I subtract 45 of the delay and add to the year. This way, I get year 2045, delay 597.

No you DON'T have to run it for every year. Run it for a high range of delays. Year and delay are linked. The same Pokemon you catch in 2000 with a delay of 650 can be caught in 2050 with a delay of 600. Anyhow, WHAT are you trying to find that it can't find it with a reasonable delay range in your year?

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Oh....


Okay, I had been going about it the same way I did with egg IVs--using only one delay value. xP Gah...thanks.

I suppose I should take this opportunity to note that on RNG Reporter 5.00, I can't seem to find how to specify Shiny spreads on the Time Finder. *_* But I know that I saw it before... Dx

Edit: Yeah, I found it on 4.60. Erm...is it supposed to be like that?
 
I suppose I should take this opportunity to note that on RNG Reporter 5.00, I can't seem to find how to specify Shiny spreads on the Time Finder. *_* But I know that I saw it before... Dx

Edit: Yeah, I found it on 4.60. Erm...is it supposed to be like that?

The time finder window can be resized, so make it a little bigger and you should see it. I had to move some things around to accommodate the new ability search.
 
Ok I did some calibrating and found that out of my 35 SR's that 22 of them were getting 14 seconds for the initial seed. My question is what would be my delay range out of these:

616-1
618-2
622-7
623-1
624-5
626-3
627-1
628-3
630-3
632-1
639-1
648-1
692-1

The numbers next to the 600 numbers are how many times I'd gotten that delay number.
 
Ok I did some calibrating and found that out of my 35 SR's that 22 of them were getting 14 seconds for the initial seed. My question is what would be my delay range out of these:

616-1
618-2
622-7
623-1
624-5
626-3
627-1
628-3
630-3
632-1
639-1
648-1
692-1

The numbers next to the 600 numbers are how many times I'd gotten that delay number.

The last high ones are outliers, I would use 620-630 just like me.
 
Ok thanks, I have another question, in order to get those flawless IVs, do your pokemon in the daycare have to have good ivs already or can they just have any old iv numbers and you'll still be able to get that flawless spread you seek. It says in the OP that your parents have to have as many of the target IVs as possible but, it doesn't really say that it's necessary.
 
Ok thanks, I have another question, in order to get those flawless IVs, do your pokemon in the daycare have to have good ivs already or can they just have any old iv numbers and you'll still be able to get that flawless spread you seek. It says in the OP that your parents have to have as many of the target IVs as possible but, it doesn't really say that it's necessary.

If you generate some spreads with your Time Finder, you'll see spreads come up that look like " 31/A/B/31/31/B ". The A stands for the first parent you put into the DayCare, and the B stands for the second parent. So ideally you'd want good parents for whichever stat you're trying to breed in, but perfectly flawless parents aren't necessary.

In the above spread I mentioned, for example, your parents don't need a 31 in HP, Sp Atk, or Sp Defense, because your target spread gives them to you.
 
If you can find a spread that has all A's or all B's, or two A's and a B in a stat that's not important, you can just use any old pokemon for one of the parents, and one of the flawless Dittos that's going around for the other. This is probably the easiest way to do things.
 
I was wondering, how can you use the RNG for wild pokemon?
I tried the same method as catching the legendary pokemon, but the frames are completely different every reset.

I know some people got a flawless Ditto though, can anyone help me out?
 
Yeah, I really need one of those flawless Ditto's. Right now, IV Breeding is starting to get annoying when I have that pretty good shiny spread, but my parents suck.

But with good parents, I was able to make a perfect Shiny Breloom, a perfect Shiny Ninjask and lots of perfect not shinies.

mingot, pretty good job on version 5.00. The Initial Seed Checker using only stats is great. Probably will help many of those who don't have a AR.
 
The Ditto was done in Trophy Garden, where there are no NPCs. Basically, save in a grassy patch, hit your seed, advance the RNG, and the Sweet Scent for a pokemon. Keep in mind, the starting offset for Sweet Scent will be 2, as opposed to 1 for most legends.
 
Going to be working on updating the guide with better information, but the first thing is that you should be sweet scenting and the other is that you will definitely want to avoid trying this in a place where there are wandering NPCs.
 
Wow a flawless wild ditto would really help me in breeding tremendously. I have a question about the last three steps to getting a flawless ditto though. It seems that syberia just blandly gave out the steps and I don't understand them that well. Such as hitting a spread, advancing the RNG, and sweet scenting for the wild pokemon. I know it's not as simple to use sweet scent, find a wild pokemon, and proceed to capture, or is it?
 
If you can find a spread that has all A's or all B's, or two A's and a B in a stat that's not important, you can just use any old pokemon for one of the parents, and one of the flawless Dittos that's going around for the other. This is probably the easiest way to do things.

I love single-parent spreads. It's really nice to have one Ditto with the right IVs and use random parents with the right moves to get flawless things with very little setup.

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Main reason I wanted to post was about getting even frames on the WonderCard event Pokemon. I've found (at least with the small sample size of saves I've had) that when I wait for someone in the Sandgem mart (usually the blonde-haired guy) to move before grabbing the gift, the RNG advances by 3. At least I'm two hex-flawless WonderCard Pokemon ahead by using this...

This particular NPC movement probably doesn't apply for all situations, but the point is that we should use the NPCs to our advantage for even frame numbers (especially when all the runners in your game are caught, like in mine).
 
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