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Princess Emily

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Hello
Does anyone have any understanding of how egg rng works to some extent in BW2, yes I know you cant rng it, but like how do the pid frames and re seeding work, and do the pokemon running in the daycare advance pid frames etc
Just recently did 2 egg RNGs in BW2. Exhibit A & B. You might need the beta version of PokeFinder btw.
Here are the steps btw (to rephrase the one somebody at Discord sent to me):

Step 1: Put two Pokemon in daycare
Step 2: Run around until the daycare man calls you.
Step 3: Save inside the daycare.
Step 4: Find a seed you'd like to hit in Pokefinder.
Step 5: Hit your seed and verify by using either Chatots or save spinners (since PokeFinder doesn't have Chatot support yet for Gen 5, I have to switch to RNG Reporter from here)
Step 6: Go outside, reject the egg, bike around until you have a new egg.
Step 7: Nature, IVs, & ability (I think) is determined at this point, but not shiny-ness. So if you don't want shiny, receive egg now, it will be your egg.
Step 8: If you want a shiny, it is similar to BW1 Egg RNG, where you save next to guy, open menu as fast as you can to use chatots to verify you hit seed, then receive egg 1 frame before your target frame.

In my case however, for Step 8, I have to set the encounter type to "Gift Pokemon" in RNG Reporter to see which frame is/are shiny. My target was frame 126 which is a shiny frame, but I have to hit frame 119 to hit the target.
 
Better suited for here, but nonetheless...

You can read about the discovery starting here (lasts for a few posts). Basically everything is fixed for the first egg (except PID, tho think this wouldn't change the inheritance) because the game overwrites the new seed with the original one every time it boots. The pokemon running in the daycare shouldn't advance the PID frame because they're running in a fixed path. The WNPCs on the route, however, definitely will. With a bit of work, it's technically abusable; however, I don't think the process is very well documented as most people just don't bother. It's been a long time since that post was made, so it's possible there's more/better resources out there now. But that's as much as I know.
Ok thanks

Just recently did 2 egg RNGs in BW2. Exhibit A & B. You might need the beta version of PokeFinder btw.
Here are the steps btw (to rephrase the one somebody at Discord sent to me):

Step 1: Put two Pokemon in daycare
Step 2: Run around until the daycare man calls you.
Step 3: Save inside the daycare.
Step 4: Find a seed you'd like to hit in Pokefinder.
Step 5: Hit your seed and verify by using either Chatots or save spinners (since PokeFinder doesn't have Chatot support yet for Gen 5, I have to switch to RNG Reporter from here)
Step 6: Go outside, reject the egg, bike around until you have a new egg.
Step 7: Nature, IVs, & ability (I think) is determined at this point, but not shiny-ness. So if you don't want shiny, receive egg now, it will be your egg.
Step 8: If you want a shiny, it is similar to BW1 Egg RNG, where you save next to guy, open menu as fast as you can to use chatots to verify you hit seed, then receive egg 1 frame before your target frame.

In my case however, for Step 8, I have to set the encounter type to "Gift Pokemon" in RNG Reporter to see which frame is/are shiny. My target was frame 126 which is a shiny frame, but I have to hit frame 119 to hit the target.
Interesting why 7 frames early?

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Hi,

I've been playing around with RNG in my Diamond and have been trying to freeze NPCs with the VS seeker.

I changed the time of my DS, and once the game loads used the VS seeker to freeze the NPC. However, when I continue coin flipping to confirm I hit my seed, the NPC moves again. I was able to hit my frame using chatots as my target frame was quite far.

How do I properly use the VS seeker? I'm sure I'm not doing it correctly!
 

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Been a while so someone correct me if I'm wrong, but according to here
When a Wandering NPC want a rematch due to the VS Seeker it becomes a Fixed NPC while circling around or a Stationary NPC after the rematch.
Neither scenario advances the frame since the fixed NPC moves in a fixed path. Based on that seems like you're ok.
 
Been a while so someone correct me if I'm wrong, but according to here

Neither scenario advances the frame since the fixed NPC moves in a fixed path. Based on that seems like you're ok.
I did not know that! Thanks, I've been putting off Wild RNG in routes with lots of NPCs as I assumed that they all advance the frame :P
 
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Hello. :) It has been while since I did play Pokémon since I don't own Switch so I'm basically skipping whole Sword/Shield gen.

I just recently got back into Gen 3 games and I've heard that there is now a legit way to RNG abuse in Fire Red/Leaf Green. Does anyone have any good guide for such? I mainly want to make ingame pokémon for Battle Tower. :D
 

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I just recently got back into Gen 3 games and I've heard that there is now a legit way to RNG abuse in Fire Red/Leaf Green. Does anyone have any good guide for such? I mainly want to make ingame pokémon for Battle Tower. :D
I'm not up to date on it and idk how low you've been out of the loop, but the only guide compilations Ik of are here and here. Perhaps something in there would be of use.
 

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