Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

[Atem91]

Better suited for here, but nonetheless...

You can read about the discovery starting here (lasts for a few posts). Basically everything is fixed for the first egg (except PID, tho think this wouldn't change the inheritance) because the game overwrites the new seed with the original one every time it boots. The pokemon running in the daycare shouldn't advance the PID frame because they're running in a fixed path. The WNPCs on the route, however, definitely will. With a bit of work, it's technically abusable; however, I don't think the process is very well documented as most people just don't bother. It's been a long time since that post was made, so it's possible there's more/better resources out there now. But that's as much as I know.

Ok thanks

Just recently did 2 egg RNGs in BW2. Exhibit A & B. You might need the beta version of PokeFinder btw.
Here are the steps btw (to rephrase the one somebody at Discord sent to me):

Step 1: Put two Pokemon in daycare
Step 2: Run around until the daycare man calls you.
Step 3: Save inside the daycare.
Step 4: Find a seed you'd like to hit in Pokefinder.
Step 5: Hit your seed and verify by using either Chatots or save spinners (since PokeFinder doesn't have Chatot support yet for Gen 5, I have to switch to RNG Reporter from here)
Step 6: Go outside, reject the egg, bike around until you have a new egg.
Step 7: Nature, IVs, & ability (I think) is determined at this point, but not shiny-ness. So if you don't want shiny, receive egg now, it will be your egg.
Step 8: If you want a shiny, it is similar to BW1 Egg RNG, where you save next to guy, open menu as fast as you can to use chatots to verify you hit seed, then receive egg 1 frame before your target frame.

In my case however, for Step 8, I have to set the encounter type to "Gift Pokemon" in RNG Reporter to see which frame is/are shiny. My target was frame 126 which is a shiny frame, but I have to hit frame 119 to hit the target.

Interesting why 7 frames early?

Mod edit : Please do not double post. If you forgot to add something, please edit your previous post.

 

[Uberbiscit]

Hi,

I've been playing around with RNG in my Diamond and have been trying to freeze NPCs with the VS seeker.

I changed the time of my DS, and once the game loads used the VS seeker to freeze the NPC. However, when I continue coin flipping to confirm I hit my seed, the NPC moves again. I was able to hit my frame using chatots as my target frame was quite far.

How do I properly use the VS seeker? I'm sure I'm not doing it correctly!

 

[shiny finder]

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Been a while so someone correct me if I'm wrong, but according to here

When a Wandering NPC want a rematch due to the VS Seeker it becomes a Fixed NPC while circling around or a Stationary NPC after the rematch.

Neither scenario advances the frame since the fixed NPC moves in a fixed path. Based on that seems like you're ok.

 

[Uberbiscit]

Been a while so someone correct me if I'm wrong, but according to here

Neither scenario advances the frame since the fixed NPC moves in a fixed path. Based on that seems like you're ok.

I did not know that! Thanks, I've been putting off Wild RNG in routes with lots of NPCs as I assumed that they all advance the frame :P

 

[Zelen]

Hello. :) It has been while since I did play Pokémon since I don't own Switch so I'm basically skipping whole Sword/Shield gen.

I just recently got back into Gen 3 games and I've heard that there is now a legit way to RNG abuse in Fire Red/Leaf Green. Does anyone have any good guide for such? I mainly want to make ingame pokémon for Battle Tower. :D

 

[shiny finder]

I just recently got back into Gen 3 games and I've heard that there is now a legit way to RNG abuse in Fire Red/Leaf Green. Does anyone have any good guide for such? I mainly want to make ingame pokémon for Battle Tower. :D

I'm not up to date on it and idk how low you've been out of the loop, but the only guide compilations Ik of are here and here. Perhaps something in there would be of use.

 

[Zelen]

I'm not up to date on it and idk how low you've been out of the loop, but the only guide compilations Ik of are here and here. Perhaps something in there would be of use.

Hey, thanks this is exactly what I was looking for! I tend to play Pokémon on/off time to time and RNG Abuse is my favorite thing to do.

 

[ash1236]

Does anyone know where exactly to put the code.ips patch for XYORAS rng with CitraRNG? The github says I need to a patch for these games and links to a guide here but I can't seem to figure out the exact folder name and/or the location.

Edit: figured it out!

 

[astroshagger]

Hi guys,

I'm doing Gen V stationary RNG. I'm in the time finder window and I entered my desired spread, but as soon as I set my Spe IV to smething other than 31 it "disabled fast searching" and it takes forever to search. Extremely annoying that the program runs this way as you basically have to enter a 31 Spe IV to search seeds in a reasonable amount of time. Do I have any options to make this go faster? The spread I want is 31/0/31/30/31/30

 

[shiny finder]

Hi guys,

I'm doing Gen V stationary RNG. I'm in the time finder window and I entered my desired spread, but as soon as I set my Spe IV to smething other than 31 it "disabled fast searching" and it takes forever to search. Extremely annoying that the program runs this way as you basically have to enter a 31 Spe IV to search seeds in a reasonable amount of time. Do I have any options to make this go faster? The spread I want is 31/0/31/30/31/30

Gen 5 here pls

Afaik Pokefinder doesn't support this method for Gen 5 on the releases (could be in an alpha? idk), so I'm unable to test anything there. For RNGR, testing it a bit seems like you're stuck. While it's possible to trick the program into showing "fast searching" while still searching for your IVs, it doesn't actually result in improved searching times.

m:ss.ss

normal search 4:21.05
fast 1:42.10
tricked 4:22.94

You could achieve fast searching if you compromise on some of the IVs, specifically the Atk IV to maintain your HP fire, by setting your desired Atk to HP_E. See commented lines in the RNGR source code, denoted by //

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[astroshagger]

Gen 5 here pls

Afaik Pokefinder doesn't support this method for Gen 5 on the releases (could be in an alpha? idk), so I'm unable to test anything there. For RNGR, testing it a bit seems like you're stuck. While it's possible to trick the program into showing "fast searching" while still searching for your IVs, it doesn't actually result in improved searching times.



You could achieve fast searching if you compromise on some of the IVs, specifically the Atk IV to maintain your HP fire, by setting your desired Atk to HP_E. See commented lines in the RNGR source code, denoted by //

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Dude, I don't know what all that text means, but you're a beast, and I'm glad you're smarter than I am. I found my seed. Thank you.

 

[Suspicious Derivative]

I'm currently trying to RNG a shiny Misdreavus at Mt. Silver in HeartGold, but I'm having problems. I decided to try to get it at Mt. Silver 3F where Misdreavus can be found at encounter slots 0 and 2 during Night, but it didn't work. When I first tried with encounter slot 2, I got a shiny Phanpy, and when I tried with slot 0, I got a shiny Quagsire. I thought that maybe I was in the wrong room. I don't know which exact room is "3F" because when I look at the maps on Serebii, Bulbapedia and Psypokes, they have different names for the rooms. I assumed it was this room as it is named 3F on Serebii and Psypokes, but it is named 2F on Bulbapedia. Now I am wondering, which room is 3F according to the encounter slots? I searched a little in this thread and it seems like people have been having problems with Mt. Silver in the past as well, but I don't know if the encounter slots has been fixed since then. I will continue trying a bit on my own to see if I can solve it, but if anyone has the answer, it would be highly appreciated.

Edit: I solved it on my own. I made another try in this room, the "Expert Belt Chamber" as Bulbapedia calls it. Here, I managed to get my target shiny Misdreavus on encounter slot 2.

 

[lucariomaster2]

I've been trying to RNG a TID/SID in SoulSilver; while I've been able to hit the right delay, the number of seconds is wrong (target seconds - 59; actual seconds - 2 or 3). Does something different need to be done in EonTimer/Pokefinder in order to do ID abuse compared to regular encounters?

Yes, yes you do. The thing you need to do, apparently, is read the guide properly.