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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information
- Thread starter mingot
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224 flips is right or I calculate it as follows assuming you have 9 days of captured pokemon:
5 = starting frame
5+2 = 7 open journal
7+ (12*[9*(2*2)]) = 12 times pressing A to go to last journal page, then B to go back to first journal page
remainder = 14, exit and reopen journal, the press A 3 times then B 3 times to go back then exit journal should get you to frame 453
No synchronizer needed for method 1 and IVs get set when you talk to cresselia or mesprit or other method 1 pokemon.
No problem and good luck =)
use DPPt egg PID (normal) only for the coin toss based on heads/tails mentioned in frames 1 on up (I usually do 10-20 coin tosses).
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Alright, so basicaaly is the same except for the Method, synch and the 5 initial frames, thanks again :)
Jep, that's correct. The only difference is the start frame and you don't need a Synch.
Something to add:
When trying to catch my Zapdos, the roaming Mesprit seemed to advance the RNG by 9, instead of 1.
When trying to catch my Zapdos, the roaming Mesprit seemed to advance the RNG by 9, instead of 1.
hello .
if i enter the game and then catch a wild pokemon how much will it advance the rng ?
if i enter the game and then catch a wild pokemon how much will it advance the rng ?
Weird, for me it was just 12 with Mesprit roaming (11 + 1).
Someone of another forum just confused me, he is also on smogon.
He gave someone the advice that to get a frame of 102 with cresselia, he needed to do this:
102 - 1 (starting frame) -5 (cresselia) = 96
96/2 =48 flips.
Now I'm trying to get a shiny Heatran, don't care about IV's, so i wanted a very easy frame (don't do a thing)
Mesprit is running, so i thought i could just use a frame of 2. 2 - 1 (heatran) - 1 (runner) = 0
I thought starting frame and the legends frame were the same, but apparantly not. So to make it easy i would need a frame of 3, 3 - 1 (starting frame) - 1 (runner) -1 (heatran)
Could anyone confirm me which method frame i should use?
And @ the smogon person (not saying name), this is not to insult you or anything, but this just confused me so I wanted to check at the source of RNG :D. So please don't hate me... Ok, he already answered me below.
And at the post above me, i consider it legit, but i do say i got it with RNG.
He gave someone the advice that to get a frame of 102 with cresselia, he needed to do this:
102 - 1 (starting frame) -5 (cresselia) = 96
96/2 =48 flips.
Now I'm trying to get a shiny Heatran, don't care about IV's, so i wanted a very easy frame (don't do a thing)
Mesprit is running, so i thought i could just use a frame of 2. 2 - 1 (heatran) - 1 (runner) = 0
I thought starting frame and the legends frame were the same, but apparantly not. So to make it easy i would need a frame of 3, 3 - 1 (starting frame) - 1 (runner) -1 (heatran)
Could anyone confirm me which method frame i should use?
And @ the smogon person (not saying name), this is not to insult you or anything, but this just confused me so I wanted to check at the source of RNG :D. So please don't hate me... Ok, he already answered me below.
And at the post above me, i consider it legit, but i do say i got it with RNG.
Haha no its ok.
[dutch]
Technisch gezien kun je het beste optellen in jouw geval.
1+1+1 = 3 dus moet je 3 pakken.[/dutch]
Thats correct.
You don't have a starting frame and a pokémon frame number, you have only a Pokemon starting number. So for heatran only subtract -1, same for cresseli, you will have to subtract only 5. I can give you more information in a PM in Dutch if you want.
I think I get it now, he explained it to another person that way, thats why I got confused. I'm not trying to get the cresselia, just heatran. But this was what i thought.
Thank you for your help! I don't think I need the PM, but thanks for the offer. Now all I need to do is wait till my delay acts normal again (I now get random ones, between 582 and 634, odd and even)
I still don't see how this would work / be better than a spreadsheet. If you really have a vision about it, explain exactly what you mean. IE. what the screen would look like, what it would do, what buttons it would have, what they would do, etc.
There is, but we don't have enough information. I would need a complete encounter chart and then to know how the rng results map to a chart.
Starting with better parents is the best advice I can give you. Life is much easier when parents are good enough so that you can find something you need with your frame calibration in place. Otherwise, you are just chasing spreads around.
First, only NPCs that randomly wander have any effect. I did test this and they were always method 1 frame 1.
You're the one doing the TM research, so I doubt anyone knows more than you at this point.
That's very strange. Did you just immediately release the birds or do some things with the marking app open?
It should be on frame 2, but this is so easy to test I wonder why you ask. Just save in front of it, catch a few, generate an initial seed and generate with method J. What frame are they on?
I know it could be easy to test, but i'm just starting, and trying to understand everything. So even if my results say one thing, if a more experienced person says something else I'd think I made the error.
I also thought that people who have done this a few times could aswer my question in 30 seconds.
Last reason, I have a mac computer, and i didn't want to go to my other house just for that small thing.
So sorry if I spammed small questions or something, i thought it would be ok.
I also thought that people who have done this a few times could aswer my question in 30 seconds.
Last reason, I have a mac computer, and i didn't want to go to my other house just for that small thing.
So sorry if I spammed small questions or something, i thought it would be ok.
Hey guys. I was wondering if you think this delay range is too wide: 590-620.
I was going through the first calibration step (syncing the clock, then catching pokemon and using the seed finder to find your seconds and delay(s)).
Here are my detailed results (did this 10 times):
14 seconds all 10 times
delays: 596, 608, 608, 624, 596, 612, 612, 592, 606, 598
I was going through the first calibration step (syncing the clock, then catching pokemon and using the seed finder to find your seconds and delay(s)).
Here are my detailed results (did this 10 times):
14 seconds all 10 times
delays: 596, 608, 608, 624, 596, 612, 612, 592, 606, 598
You really should try to get something like 598-604.
Nothing, I had the game open in coin flip app and only changed to marking app after talking with Oak. And I know it's not the coin flip advancing it because it didn't the first time I SRed for Zapdos, in another save file.
Help please, Im trying to catch a legendary and that why I did :
-I found a good spread by Method J (I wanna catch a legendary), the frame was "408"
-I took the seed and put it in "Seed to Time", I used "Generate" and changed the year to 2015 to get a delay of 600
-I got this : Target time : 2009-06-02, 08:55:59 with a delay of 600
-I changed the hour on my both clocks
-I took my synchroniser, I am on the coin flip application, I saved behind the legendary with a team of 5 pokemons, Ive a caught pokemon in my Journal (on the third page)
-I put my seed in RNG Reporter, with DPPt Egg (Normal) and now, Ive a lot of frames with Head, Tails,...
-What Ive to do with those Heads and tails ?
-How does walking encrease your RNG ?
-If you have the good seed and you wait, do you loose the pokemon ? I mean, can I wait behind the pokemon doing nothing if Ive the good seed ?
-How does switching to coin flip application increase your RNG ?
Thanks for helping me !
-I found a good spread by Method J (I wanna catch a legendary), the frame was "408"
-I took the seed and put it in "Seed to Time", I used "Generate" and changed the year to 2015 to get a delay of 600
-I got this : Target time : 2009-06-02, 08:55:59 with a delay of 600
-I changed the hour on my both clocks
-I took my synchroniser, I am on the coin flip application, I saved behind the legendary with a team of 5 pokemons, Ive a caught pokemon in my Journal (on the third page)
-I put my seed in RNG Reporter, with DPPt Egg (Normal) and now, Ive a lot of frames with Head, Tails,...
-What Ive to do with those Heads and tails ?
-How does walking encrease your RNG ?
-If you have the good seed and you wait, do you loose the pokemon ? I mean, can I wait behind the pokemon doing nothing if Ive the good seed ?
-How does switching to coin flip application increase your RNG ?
Thanks for helping me !
Okay:
Coins:
You input your seed into RNG reporter, the main page, select DPPt Egg (normal) and then generate. use the coin flip application as many times as you feel neccessary, this could be anywhere from 10 to 20, or more if you really want to be sure. If your flips match the ones on the page, then you have hit the correct seed.
Now you need to open up your journal. If your frame is odd, subtract one, divide by 2, then flip your journal to any page with a caught pokemon on it that many times. If it is even, then walk 128 steps and then subtract 6, then divide the remaining number by 2 and flip it that many times.
Very confusing, I know.
• If you have the right seed, waiting does not lose the pokemon.
• The coin flip application does not increase your RNG at all.
Coins:
You input your seed into RNG reporter, the main page, select DPPt Egg (normal) and then generate. use the coin flip application as many times as you feel neccessary, this could be anywhere from 10 to 20, or more if you really want to be sure. If your flips match the ones on the page, then you have hit the correct seed.
Now you need to open up your journal. If your frame is odd, subtract one, divide by 2, then flip your journal to any page with a caught pokemon on it that many times. If it is even, then walk 128 steps and then subtract 6, then divide the remaining number by 2 and flip it that many times.
Very confusing, I know.
• If you have the right seed, waiting does not lose the pokemon.
• The coin flip application does not increase your RNG at all.
So, I was in the room, and I got the right seed, I know my frame is 408 so 408-1 = 407, I opened my Journal and flip to the page with the caught pokemon 201 times = 402 seed, after this, I walked for 128 steps, as its said in the first page ("In a cave, walking 128 steps will increase your seed by the number of pokemons in your party"), so 402 + 5 = 407, but I think I missed something :x
I have a question, If I entered the game on 5 30, and found the pokemon in the grass at 5:31, Will that change anything?