Also, does anyone know the number of dots that PokeRNG outputs before the search is done? I know how to make the status bar work if I can find this out.
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Also, does anyone know the number of dots that PokeRNG outputs before the search is done? I know how to make the status bar work if I can find this out.
has someone had any experience with ID finder or has tried to do this and sorry for reposting just did in case it was missed
Alright im just gonna do a quick summary, as it might help,
This is what we established so far.
- The SEED received in Pandora's Box, is NOT the SEED used for your Method J/Method 1 Pokemon, it is used to find your target time when entering it into the SEED to TIME finder in hopes of finding your target time, the time you need to hit when abusing for your combination.
- The SEED coupled with the PID in the spread using PokéRNG is the SEED used for your method J/Method 1 and always will be for that specific PID. It is NOT the one used when hitting your SID/ID combination.
- Chose a combination of your choice with a reasonable delay.
- Enter the given SEED into the SEED to TIME finder found in the RNG reporter
- Chose you date/hour/sec listed that you think is possible to hit the time given when abusing.
- Do the math to know how many seconds it takes to hit a particular delay, notice that many factors can influence your time, specificly the loading time between pressing start on the opening screen and the time when the game opens up with Rowen speaking. Only needed IF your using emloop or any type of timer to hit your spread. Notice that it might take time to pinpoint the exact seconds, so use the SEED finder tin Pandora's Box to check your Delay, and continue adding or removing seconds if your delay is too high or too low.
Ignore this if you already know how to change delays efficiantly.
- Do the math to know how many seconds it takes to hit a particular delay, notice that many factors can influence your time, specificly the loading time between pressing start on the opening screen and the time when the game opens up with Rowen speaking. Only needed IF your using emloop or any type of timer to hit your spread. Notice that it might take time to pinpoint the exact seconds, so use the SEED finder tin Pandora's Box to check your Delay, and continue adding or removing seconds if your delay is too high or too low.
- Use the Seed Finder in Pandora's box when getting the wrong Trainer ID, this is extremely important as you need precision and learn from your previous error. It might be the Target Time or Delay that you had wrong in these case.
You know just ignore searching AT ALLl for your Method J/Method 1 for now, just concentrate on what I instructed you.
It might be possible...but probably highly unlikely that you will get two different PID that gives you both a Hex Flawless or Hidden Power Flawless.
Im not sure about this, it might be interesting to know.
However one PID might have two good Natures coupled together for example, my PID that gives me a HexFlawless spread, comes as both Modest and Timid nature.
Wow thanks for writing this for me.
So all I have to do is.
1.Put PID in Pandora's Box
2.Search for seeds and put a seed "Seed into Time" on RNG reporter
3.Find a time that suits me and start abusing for the ID?
Thanks again for helping me!
That about covers it, it might be hard and first, because it's an unuasaly high delay, but just check your delay once in a while and it should be fine.
using either the Seed finder or the Trainer ID(**if you don't have the SID check code) and Trainer ID might find multiple sheets' with different delay because the lack of SID, but just deduct which one is the most reasonable.
Pandora's Box is a programm used to find a SID/ID combination that will give you a shiny spread of your choice that can be used for Method 1/Method J/Method K, you might want to start reading the instructions on how to use it in WildEeps Post, if you have any specifique question or part of the combination abusing processus, then ask questions.
Hi!
My question about rng abuse for wilds:
If you have an odd Target frame (e.g. 101); can you simply flip 50 pages in your diary and then move in the grass until a wild Pokemon appears or do you always have to use sweet cent(This wll raise the frame by 2 if a wild Pokemon appears)?
My question about rng abuse for wilds:
If you have an odd Target frame (e.g. 101); can you simply flip 50 pages in your diary and then move in the grass until a wild Pokemon appears or do you always have to use sweet cent(This wll raise the frame by 2 if a wild Pokemon appears)?
you can just turn without taking step or take a step without turning which will advance the RNG by 1 so for instance you can do 49 journal flips to move the RNG by 98 frames do a turn or 1 step to get it to 99 then sweet scent to get the 101 you need make sure your using a repel if your going to turn or take a step
1612028f, frame 3703
200b02ac, frame 4998
70040282, frame 1912
a310025a, frame 3250
Those are Method 1 frames, but you can type those seeds in RNG Reporter and get the Method J frames.
An easy way to get seeds for a 31\31\31\x\31\31 Pokemon is to use the Seed Finder in RNG Reporter, put in those IVs and select Open Search. (Also, select Offset to see the Method 1 frame.)
So I'm abusing this Ho-Oh on my HG cart (I like to slap my Ho-oh every now and then cuz she back talks me) and I'm using a Jolly syncher, but I'm having trouble finding what frame I'm actually hitting (so i can adjust from there) because there are so many repetitious frames all around it. Could I just do my sweet scents and turns, NOT use the syncher and see what frame it lands on, then use my syncher when I've figured out how many actions I need to do to reach my frame? Basically, I know that using a syncher makes certain frames appear more often, but "does using a syncher add or subtract to the number of frames you advance?"
I assume not, but I just thought I'd ask anyway. :P
I assume not, but I just thought I'd ask anyway. :P
What's the seed? And what spread do you keep landing on?
The next time you hit that seed, do the same thing you did before, except advance by one with the radio and see what spread you get. Then you look at the Method K list and see where you get those two different spreads in succession. That'll give you an idea of the general vicinity.
Is it possible to RNG the starters on Diamond?
I'm assuming so, and I'm going to try and get a shiny Turtwig with my ID/SID combo I'm currently resetting for. I'm just hoping they're on a frame of 1, are method J, and that there is no frame advancement in the short scene before choosing the pokemon.
I'm assuming so, and I'm going to try and get a shiny Turtwig with my ID/SID combo I'm currently resetting for. I'm just hoping they're on a frame of 1, are method J, and that there is no frame advancement in the short scene before choosing the pokemon.
Oh, yeah, thanks. Actually, I've been advancing it by two or so with 2 turns in place, but here's what I've been running into...
The frames that I am shooting for are 377/379/383/384
The repetitious frames that surround it are 348, 352, 356, 360, 366, 368, 370, 378, 386, or 392
Just doing some testing last night gave me...
6 SS's, 22 turns (no poke)= F either 348, 352, 356, 360, 366, 368, 370, 378, 386, or 392
6 SS's, 24 turns (no poke)= F Same ^^^ "probably" F 368/370 (guess because "2" turns lead to the same looking frame)
6 SS's, 30 turns (no poke)= F "^^^" :(
3 different trys gave me the same spread, which makes sense because there are so many repetitious spreads all there in the same vicinity. The problem is, because I hit those same spreads each time, I can't tell how far I moved or where exactly I'm at beyond guessing. My hope was that I could just not use my syncher to see what frame I'm actually landing on and adjust from there, then when I figure out what I need to do to hit one of my frames, just use the syncher that time. I'll try it real quick and see.
I appreciate your help :)
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Yeah, not using the syncher to "clear the frame up" to tell what I was actually hitting worked. Figured out I was pretty close. Took 2 more trys to "adjust" and I got it... Ho-Oh, Jolly, 31/31/31/29/31/31. ;) I think I'll not use the syncher till I figure out how to hit my frame first from now on. All those repetitious frames were confusing me @_@
matt, try advancing with the radio. I'm not sure turning advances the RNG like it did in DPPt. In fact, I don't think it even advances it at all.
I was going for Mewtwo and I found I kept landing on frame 4 with no advancement + 2 runners (wtf). I needed to land on frame 6 to get the Mewtwo I wanted. I found turning didn't work; I needed to make two steps (back, then forward) to advance the frame to 6.
I was going for Mewtwo and I found I kept landing on frame 4 with no advancement + 2 runners (wtf). I needed to land on frame 6 to get the Mewtwo I wanted. I found turning didn't work; I needed to make two steps (back, then forward) to advance the frame to 6.
Oh, yeah I just got it.
My research so far has shown that turning where wild pokes are with a repel on does advance the frame, but at "inconsistent" rates. Most of the time it's 1 turn=1 advancement, but sometimes I have verified it to be 2, and at other times (not proven yet, but assumed) it may in fact not advance at all. Adding up everything I've recorded, it "averages out" to be 1 turn=1.6 advancements, which probably means most of the time it's 1, but sometimes 2, and maybe sometimes 0.
I have also verified that it is 100% (at least so far) consistent within any given seed. So if I hit my seed and turn 10 times, it will advance my frame by... say 13... every single time (at least so far). And if I hit my seed and turn 100 times it will advance my frame by say...160... every single time (at least so far), but if I turn 100 times on any other seed, it may be 150, or 170, etc...
Have you seen these kinds of results before? It's been "consistent" for me every time so far.
Sweet Scenting has proved the same for me, except it has been found to advance by larger amounts. Sometimes 20, sometimes 100+, but always the same amount on the same seed.
For an example, what I did for this Ho-oh is...
6 Sweet Scents (frame 320), then 36 turns (not to or from my poke) = my target frame of 379.
I think it took 10 times of hitting my seed to figure it out.
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Oh, I said that wrong about the sweet scenting. I have found that it advances by the same amount on the same seed, and by different amounts on different seeds, but that it will advance by different amounts each time you do it within the same seed. For example on one seed, it may advance by 20 the first time, 47 the second time, 15 the third time, then 199 the fourth time, and on and on, but always by those same amounts on the same seed.
It worked this way in DPPt, too.
Anyway, since you're aiming for a frame in the 300s or so, I suggest talking to your Pokemon. You can use the response pattern to see if you hit your seed, and you can use it to advance the RNG instead of Sweet Scenting.
I recommend looking for a seed that has the same Pokemon on a much lower frame, though.
Yeah, Honey Trees are more complicated than encounter slots.
It might be possible to use encounter slots to figure out which Pokemon will appear in the tree... but this needs research.
EDIT: It's not built into RNG Reporter, but you could work out the math from this. I can help out later, when I have more time.
What swarm Pokemon arrive in areas where you don´t see any moving npc´s who influence the frame?
german or english? lol
here is a list:
http://pokewiki.de/Gesichtete_Pokémon (german)
npcs ar not at the lakes, valley windworks, and much more....
here is a list:
http://pokewiki.de/Gesichtete_Pokémon (german)
npcs ar not at the lakes, valley windworks, and much more....
Much more? I only found areas with no npc´s at the lakes and valley windworks. So what other areas do you know?