Mingot, you're here, I see. Any advice?
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No. No it really isn't.
1 Elm frame clearly skipped + 7 Elm Calls + 1 advancement to get the egg = Frame 9
The next time this happens, do yourself a favor and don't count the calls. Go by the pattern. If you use the above seed again, call until you get PKE and then quickly get the egg, or if you really can't outspeed the NPC (yes it can move after you close the menu if you're unfortunate enough) then call until you get PK. Or, check the IVs you did get against your target seed and see for yourself how far off you were.
Yeah, for DPPt Wondercards you can't get that extra advancement without the NPC helping. Coin flips won't help and the journal can only advance by 2 per flip, if at all.ShinAkuma999 said:
The same IV spread as the other one on Frame 46? Wondercard frames are just Method 1 frames +2, so if they're the same you could just use the second seed and go for the easier Frame 49. Not sure why you're seeing that frame difference, though, since a Method 1 frame 1 should be the same as Wondercard frame 3. Which seed are you looking at?ShinAkuma999 said:
Personally, I went with TRU Manaphy over the egg, so I don't know about it being Method 1...but if it is, then yes it should work that way.
I need some help with Emloop. I have been able to use this program successfully only for ID/SID abuse, but never for getting the right delay for a catch or breeding project. I'm using it on HG. I follow the instructions but I never get matching roamer positions for anything, not even for adjacent delays. Without adjacent delays, I can't adjust Emloop. I've tried the exact delay I wanted. I've tried adding 100 to it to allow for the delay when my game starts, but nothing helps. Is there anyone out there who uses Emloop for catching or breeding who can help me use it correctly. The guide is not helping me. It was good for ID/SID abuse, but not working for anything else.
. Also why don't you try using PikaTimer? Maybe you should change the calibrated second to 13.33 instead, that is what I normally do when I use PikaTimer and I hit my delay almost consistently.The "extra delay" when your game starts is usually closer to 200 or 300, actually. Unless you want to deal with experimenting, though, I'd suggest putting a delay of 900 or so into Emloop and running through it a few times while verifying your seed *by catching a Pokemon* until you can hit one or two delays consistently. Then, take that delay and subtract it from the delay you used in Emloop. You will need to add the result to your delay each time you use Emloop for that cart.
Pikatimer on this computer swings like you wouldn't believe. I'm talking going fifty points in either direction. I only have to sneeze for it to swing the other direction. For example, today I spent the afternoon trying to hit my delay with Pikatimer for Rayquaza and it has only gotten me as close as four delays off three times this afternoon. I'd like something more stable. If I could only figure emloop out, maybe I could use that, but I've been stuck with Pikatimer's messiness for a while now.
Edit: Thanks, Kiddu. I'll experiment with adding seconds, starting with 300 and see where I finally manage to get an adjacent.
Edit: Thanks, Kiddu. I'll experiment with adding seconds, starting with 300 and see where I finally manage to get an adjacent.
Now, that is an informative response I can use. So sitck it out with NPC to get that extra frame? Fair enough. As for the Wondercard thing, I may have misread, but everything I was seeing was a spread appearing at, say, 47 with JavaRNG Method 1. That same spread was appearing in RNGReporter Wondercard on frame 46. I'm looking to do another spread/seed for the same thing that appears on frame 1 (RNGReporter - Wondercard). Maybe I'm missing something. I'm starting to think that the frame reported by JavaRNG doesn't match the chosen method or something. The seed I'm going to use now is e4110322 and I'm looking for the 31/3/22/30/27/31 HP Grass 70. JavaRNG shows this as frame 2 on Method 1. RNGReporter shows it as frame 1 on Wondercard. You're saying its Method 1 frame should really be -1 so to speak? I suppose the lesson to learn here is use JavaRNG to find seeds but don't trust its frames; use RNGReporter for all other functions. Thanks for your help!
If you keep the same things open like the same internet browser and the same other things your delay shouldn't swing too much. Normally when I use PikaTimer I have Google Chrome, PikaTimer, and RNG Reporter on the toolbar while I have PikaTimer open. It really works for any Internet Browser, not just Google Chrome.
Mountains have research have been done. Try 'Search this Thread' in here and the RNG Research thread. To get you started
go here: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2657890&postcount=280
and here: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2634864&postcount=250
So to speak, yeah. Just compare the Wondercard IVs from frame 3 of that seed down to the Method 1 IVs from frame 1, and you can even see the similarity. If JavaRNG's giving you weird results like that, then you'd probably rather use something like PokeRNG or just RNG Reporter's Open Search.
I hope you mean "adding delay." ;P
I'm going to just use RNGReporter for eveything I can. My main man mingot wouldn't steer us wrong. To hell with that 46 one. This new seed is on frame 1. Much easier then journal flips then waiting for that car to drive by my house. *wink*
I need help. This is while using the seed finder for Pokemon Diamond. Every time i enter the stats and click find, it always tell me to check my time and date. I've checked it many times and i found out that i entered the right date and time. And there is no issue with the 12/24 hour clock thing because that is the first thing i checked. Can someone help me please?
ok. im trying to RNG in SS. I hit my delay ad my seed has a frame of 8. Do i deposit my parents then advance the frame? Can I advance the frame by calling joey 3 times then ditch one egg and the next one will be shiny?
I've had this happen to me. I can't explain it. I checked the date and time on the DS and RNG Reporter. When the project fails to get a seed or adjacent delays consistently despite everything, I change the date of my RNG entirely or I change the seed.
You can call Joey before or after the parents are in daycare. It makes no difference. As to your second question, without knowing how many roamers you have, I can't be sure of how many calls you need to do to advance to your target. As for the last question, yes, you can ditch one egg and take your target egg, when you have an even number of frames to advance.
Thanks for answering.
Search thread seems to be overloaded at the moment, but this is in the second post:
The Red Gyarados is generated by the same algorithm used to generate chained shinies in DPPt. Version 7.50 and later of RNG Reporter lists the spreads, but not necessarily the correct frames they appear on.
As a side note, it is possible to figure out your SID in HGSS very easily. This can be done by catching multiple Gyarados and recording their IVs and nature, resetting after each time. Putting these spreads into RNG Reporter's Chain to SID feature will reveal your game's SID.
As for the actual frames, I don't know. It's probably not safe to assume it starts on frame 1. I'm not aware of other information beyond using the chained shiny method.
help re: shiny egg HGSS
Hi,
I have been trying to use RNG in HGSS for shiny egg.
The target is careful, female (12.5%), any ability.
The seed I was looking for is : 99090320 2010-07-09 09:40:50 (delay 550) at frame 10, which supposely yield PID-51CD440E. (which is indeed shiny for my ID/SID)
Using Pikatimer I was able to reach this seed. Verified with Elm call & roam route.
steps:
- entering game (saved inside daycare)
- going into pokegear, map, verified 3 roamers in their corresponding location
- going into phone, called Elm 6 times for EKPEPE, verified seed is at 99090230. (calling 6 times + 3 roamers to advance frame to 10)
- deposited both parents (no held items)
- went outside , cycling till egg appeared
with the above steps it returns me an egg of the PID 2FDEA7C0. Jolly nature. Attempted 3 times, each yielding the exact same PID. All verified with elm call & route.
Any pointers on where I might screwed up?
Does calling elm not advance the frame for egg PID?
Thanks so much
Hi,
I have been trying to use RNG in HGSS for shiny egg.
The target is careful, female (12.5%), any ability.
The seed I was looking for is : 99090320 2010-07-09 09:40:50 (delay 550) at frame 10, which supposely yield PID-51CD440E. (which is indeed shiny for my ID/SID)
Using Pikatimer I was able to reach this seed. Verified with Elm call & roam route.
steps:
- entering game (saved inside daycare)
- going into pokegear, map, verified 3 roamers in their corresponding location
- going into phone, called Elm 6 times for EKPEPE, verified seed is at 99090230. (calling 6 times + 3 roamers to advance frame to 10)
- deposited both parents (no held items)
- went outside , cycling till egg appeared
with the above steps it returns me an egg of the PID 2FDEA7C0. Jolly nature. Attempted 3 times, each yielding the exact same PID. All verified with elm call & route.
Any pointers on where I might screwed up?
Does calling elm not advance the frame for egg PID?
Thanks so much
