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Skippy: I don't believe the delay has much to do with the frame. The delay is determined the moment you hit continue while the frame you're changing after.

You need one journal flip to a page with caught/defeated to go from 8 to 10.
 
Okay, next question, if I have an odd numbered delay (597), but my frame is even (frame 10), how many Journal Flips are needed if I usually enter my game on frame 8?

Your delay has nothing to do with your journal flips. It's just the correct time for you to enter your game. If you don't enter your game on that correct time, no amount of journal flips will give you the target pokemon you want. So your first task is to get into the game on that exact delay on the right date/time.

After that, if you always start the game with a frame of 8, then you need exactly one journal flip to reach frame 10.

Is there a shiny/flawless jolly spread? :( (dppt capture)

Shiny spreads are dependent on your SID/OT. If you don't have the right SID/OT you can't get a perfect shiny spread ever. The only way you can know if you do have the right SID/OT is to find your SID, then use PokeRNG (Wichu's program, link on first page of this help thread) to generate seeds based on your SID/OT.
 
Skippy: I don't believe the delay has much to do with the frame. The delay is determined the moment you hit continue while the frame you're changing after.

You need one journal flip to a page with caught/defeated to go from 8 to 10.

So as long as the time from when I Soft Reset, to the time I actually see the journal screen in-game is 18 seconds (my delay time), then I flip to a captured Poke page then I hit Start and get the egg before a NPC moves, I should be doing it correctly, right?

*EDIT* One journal flip, or one journal flip to a page with a captured/defeated Poke on it?
 
Skippy, you have to get the exact right delay to do a proper RNG. Small variations in your timing hitting the A button can put you off your target delay by split seconds. The whole point of knowing your usual seconds getting into the game is to help you narrow down the time so that you have a better chance of getting into your game on the right delay. So even if you do manage to get into the game at 18 seconds, if you didn't hit your target delay because of a split second difference, you cannot get your target pokemon. So it's important to understand that journal flips are useless if you did not enter the game on the correct delay. You should still do your flips of course, but then verify what the delay was and then, if the delay was wrong, adjust Pikatimer so you get closer to your target delay.
 
Hello, long time lurker, just got round to registering today because I am having a problem with pikatimer.
There is no sound coming from the pikatimer, whatsoever. All other sounds etc. seem fine on my PC and I don't think I have done anything that would have caused this to happen.
I tried re-downloading the software but it's still not working properly.
Any ideas?
Cheers x
*edit for clarity - I have been RNGing for a long time and this problem has just cropped up in the past week.

In a follow up post I also stated that I tried going through control panel > sounds and audio devices > sounds > Program events > windows default beep, however the default beep is already set to "Windows XP ding", so there are no problems with that. Totally gutted cos I've been having some success with a new team on Shoddy that I want to enter into a Wifi tourney, and RNGing would be pretty damn handy.
 
In a follow up post I also stated that I tried going through control panel > sounds and audio devices > sounds > Program events > windows default beep, however the default beep is already set to "Windows XP ding", so there are no problems with that. Totally gutted cos I've been having some success with a new team on Shoddy that I want to enter into a Wifi tourney, and RNGing would be pretty damn handy.

If you are more of a graphic person than you are of audio one, it won't be such a problem to not hear the sound (which is my case, although I do have sound on Pikatimer. The thing is that when I RNG in Emerald I use XNote Stopwatch, which doesn't feature sound and I have no problems with it).
 
If you are more of a graphic person than you are of audio one, it won't be such a problem to not hear the sound (which is my case, although I do have sound on Pikatimer. The thing is that when I RNG in Emerald I use XNote Stopwatch, which doesn't feature sound and I have no problems with it).

heh, unfortunately I work far better on rhythm than on graphical reactions. Without the sound I cannot hit the seeds to save my life. I don't really understand why it has changed though, I don't think I have changed any windows settings etc...
 
After I get my Egg from the old man, if I fly soomewhere to catch a high level Pokemon, will that mess up me checking for my Seed?

Also, In the Seed Finder, it keeps saying I have a 17 second delay, but I could swear my external clock I calibrated by says I have been hitting 18 seconds. Am I right, or is the Reporter right?
 
There's the two different parts of hitting the correct seed, Seconds and Delay. As far as I can tell (I'm not really sure of this at all), the Seconds are how long it takes you to get to the Continue screen. The Delay is the Seconds + however long you have to wait at the Continue screen.
And no, flying somewhere will not affect the egg at all. Once you actually have the egg, you can do whatever you want; it's shinyness/nature/IVs are already set.
 
There's the two different parts of hitting the correct seed, Seconds and Delay. As far as I can tell (I'm not really sure of this at all), the Seconds are how long it takes you to get to the Continue screen. The Delay is the Seconds + however long you have to wait at the Continue screen.
And no, flying somewhere will not affect the egg at all. Once you actually have the egg, you can do whatever you want; it's shinyness/nature/IVs are already set.

Actually, the seconds is the seconds past the minute that you pressed A at the continue screen.

It usually takes 14 seconds to get to continue screen.

I mostly work with high delays, from 800 to 2500. This means that I end up entering the game at seconds 47 to 56 past the minute. I don't take 47 seconds to get to the continue screen, I take about 14 seconds to get there and then I wait a bit while the delays advance to the number I need; this usually mean that I load the game, about 30 seconds into the minute, take 14 seconds to get to the continue and by the time I do it's second 45 past the minute and then I wait a second or 10 until the delays advance the one I need and then enter the game.

Sweet, easy and no calibration needed since you probably will work with all kinds of crazy delays. As long as you are set your own rhythm and keep to it, PikaTimer will adjust the timing and once you get the hang of it, you will land spot on your seed withing 3 or 4 tries.
 
Shiny spreads are dependent on your SID/OT. If you don't have the right SID/OT you can't get a perfect shiny spread ever. The only way you can know if you do have the right SID/OT is to find your SID, then use PokeRNG (Wichu's program, link on first page of this help thread) to generate seeds based on your SID/OT.
I know, but this file (here) doesn't contain even a flawless jolly spread.. so, it doesn't exist?
 
In HGSS when breeding for a shiny egg, after verifying the correct seed and placing the parents into the daycare, where are you allowed to bike as to not mess up the target frame?
 
I know, but this file (here) doesn't contain even a flawless jolly spread.. so, it doesn't exist?

I get the feeling you want a shiny legend...

Well, first of all, you are looking at the wrong place. I don't even know why you were looking at that file. That's only for people that want to abuse their ID&SID and get a bunch of "ok" shines instead of a few perfect ones.

What you should do is Download pokeRNGDP and use it to see if, by any luck, your ID and SID enable you to have at least a "viable" Jolly shiny. when you are asked for exact IVs say no - the program will interpret that as an equal to or greater than. I suggest you set the bar low, with a 0 on Special Attack and 25 on the other status. Chances are, the best Jolly shiny is less than stellar.

If you want a competitive pokemon, forget the shininess and go for perfect IVs. Use PokeRNG to search for a non shiny Jolly spread. I suggest you keep the 0 on Special Attack and put 31 on the other stats.
 
Lost my touch at HGSS abusing, help?

Seed 1F0501F3
Date 2010 07 31
Time 05:37:33
Delay 489, Frame 9
Spread: 31 / 22 / 31 / B / A / A

I check my seed by using the Search Roamers feature; Entei was found on 43, Latias 19, which matched my target/goal. Cool. Now, I go into the Breeding (HGSS), paste the Seed(Hex), Generate, do my Elm calls (they matched) one by one until I know I should hit Frame 9 next (I'm doing Pehu's method), so I collect the egg asap, hatch it, and its IVs are wrong, and they do not match any adjacent spreads.

What's wrong? The baby turned out to be 12 / 31 / 31 / 20 / 25 / 31 with flawless parents. I attached Ankelt and Everstone. This isn't the first time the baby's IVs aren't matching what RNG Reporter suggests, despite the 2 Roamers and Elm Calls matching...
 
Get rid of the stones and the power items. They're frigging up your RNG results.

Edit: when you RNG, you choose the seed with the results. You do not need stones or power items, which add variables to the RNG that are not accounted for in when RNG Reporter generated a seed for you.
 
I'm trying to hit a delay of 627 with 50 seconds. I've been hitting 631, 625, 629, and all the nearby delays. However, when I feel like I hit my seed, RNG Reporter tells me I hit a delay of 594 (which I can't) with 49 seconds. I have gotten that exact result probably 5 times now, and I'm confused as to why it would happen. Any answers?

Also, RNG Reporter often tells me what seed I was on, but the Elm calls only match up if I were to skip 3+ letters. I'm not sure what to think about this, because I know that I open the pokegear very quickly, probably within a third of a second of the game loading.
 
Would anyone be willing to personally help me with my venture into RNGing? I've been following the guide and successfully bred a shiny (just for shiny, not EVs) and was wondering if someone would care to help me move on. If anyone does they won't regret it :D
 
If I put my seed into the Seeds To Time / Adjacent Finder, with the correct year, and delay, how do I figure out what Coin Flips I will need to see? It isn't showing the new ones that I need in the box after I click Generate.
 
In the upper window, you click on the date you want to use as your RNG day so that this day is highlighted and then you click the lower generate button. Provided you put a big enough range in your +/- seconds and +/- delays, you should find that when you search the coin flip results, the search will land you on an adjacent delay that will help you adjust Pikatimer.
 
Bats: Have you watched any youtube tutorial vids? They help tremendously. Whatever you don't get from doing that, I'm sure asking here will get much help - alternatively, mIRC has some friendly people who are willing to help too.

Skippy: The top box will not have any coinflip sequence. The coinflip sequence for whatever seed you inputted is found above that.

For your adjacent spreads, look in the box below after inputting your delay and second ranges.

EDIT: Riski is just too fast, XD
 
In the upper window, you click on the date you want to use as your RNG day so that this day is highlighted and then you click the lower generate button. Provided you put a big enough range in your +/- seconds and +/- delays, you should find that when you search the coin flip results, the search will land you on an adjacent delay that will help you adjust Pikatimer.

Bats: Have you watched any youtube tutorial vids? They help tremendously. Whatever you don't get from doing that, I'm sure asking here will get much help - alternatively, mIRC has some friendly people who are willing to help too.

Skippy: The top box will not have any coinflip sequence. The coinflip sequence for whatever seed you inputted is found above that.

For your adjacent spreads, look in the box below after inputting your delay and second ranges.

EDIT: Riski is just too fast, XD

And will the Adjacent Seeds also give me the same spread?

*side note* The Link to DL the PikaTimer is broke, so I gotta try this without it.
 
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