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check the DS time, and the times he's putting the the RNG reporter. Otherwise, I have no idea, unless he's waiting a million seconds to pick up the egg from the daycare.

You need to take the Daycare egg first, then catch a wild pokemon.

I'll keep the fact that he might be taking waiting too long to get the egg in mind because am pretty sure his clock is synced. Thanks though I appreciate the input

if you need more help, ask him to describe it step by step, or post a video of him doing it, so we can see exactly what he's doing. Even one little small thing could mess up the results.

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I'll keep the fact that he might be taking waiting too long to get the egg in mind because am pretty sure his clock is synced. Thanks though I appreciate the input

if you need more help, ask him to describe it step by step, or post a video of him doing it, so we can see exactly what he's doing. Even one little small thing could mess up the results.
 
lol I just got RNG reporter to run on my Mac. You might want to add this into the advice section for mac users: Use "Darwine" to run the program
 
Ok, so I've got a target spread from Syberia's file, but am not sure what to do from here. How do I work out seconds, delay, offset/frame etc. from the seed and or PID?

Also what do you guys recommend is the best way to figure out if the delay is correct? It seems as though there are doubt upon the coin flipping trick, and am not sure exactly what to do if I scent a pokemon.

Any help is appreciated.
 
It's possible and I will see what I can do to make figuring that out a bit easier, but don't you think it may be just as fast to go scent something and find out that way?

EDIT: Hrm, actually I can think of a good way to visualize this. How many flips to you think would be enough to show? Would 10 work? (Not going to be configurable since the flips are going to be in a fixed column grid). With 10 it should be correct 1023:1024. Can everyone live with that?
10 should be fine. I was just thinking because if you have to go into an area with NPCs in order to scent, then coin flips would be the preferred method. Would have helped me with Cresselia the other day, when my delays decided to switch from odd to even in the middle of SRing.
 
Bred my First RNG abused shiny xD

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Jolly #98 Krabby: 18 / 9 / 31 / 19 / 15 / 4
Hatched at Iron Island xD

Pretty bad IV's but it was my first time and I didn't bother SRing.
I hope to get better ones soon.
Just need to learn how to IV abuse (get better at my delays).
 
So, if wild Pokemon are method J, can't we get wild shinies?
Let's say I scent one as soon as I start the game, I'll check the seed, and generate a method J list with that seed.

I catch another pokemon to see which one on the list I got.
There must be a way to land on a shiny frame that way, unless it simply advances by every hundred of a second.
 
Ok, so I've got a target spread from Syberia's file, but am not sure what to do from here. How do I work out seconds, delay, offset/frame etc. from the seed and or PID?

Also what do you guys recommend is the best way to figure out if the delay is correct? It seems as though there are doubts upon the coin flipping trick, and am not sure exactly what to do if I scent a pokemon.

Any help is appreciated.
Anyone? I'm really bored atm
 
lol I just got RNG reporter to run on my Mac. You might want to add this into the advice section for mac users: Use "Darwine" to run the program

If you have any more information about Darwine, I would appreciate. It seems like development stopped on this a long time ago and most people are just using a straight wine port. Also, did you have to install mono? Or? Any steps or other helps would be appreciated.

10 should be fine. I was just thinking because if you have to go into an area with NPCs in order to scent, then coin flips would be the preferred method. Would have helped me with Cresselia the other day, when my delays decided to switch from odd to even in the middle of SRing.

Hrm, we're going to have to think of a way to make this more general purpose, then, as the changes I have made are really to help people resetting for egg IVs. The flip sequence of 10 is displayed in the egg IV timefinder as a column. I don't think this is going to help much with legenday capture.

So do you think there should be some sort of generic screen where you can enter a Date/Time with a seconds/offset range and just output the coin flips? Seems like it would have to be there since there is no "adjacent" funtionality on the capture finder as my thought was that people were going to be catching something and could find it from there. Obviously not optimal for runners.

LOL
I thought that too but there's not much to discuss xD

If there is nothing to discuss why post here, then? That is a rhetorical question, please don't answer.

Same problem, my coin flips doesn't match the ability of the Seed I need.

It doesn't match the ability of the seed you need, it matches the abilities of the seed you got. And then it only matches the abilities of spreads when you select DPPt egg PID. This is only to figure out if you hit your Date/Time/Delay with ease and for nothing else. As you're a flashcart user I really think you can probably ingore this all together, as I don't see it providing much benefit to you.
 
it doesn't match the ability of the seed you need, it matches the abilities of the seed you got. And then it only matches the abilities of spreads when you select DPPt breeding. This is only to figure out if you hit your Date/Time/Delay with ease and for nothing else. As you're a flashcart user I really think you can probably ingore this all together, as I don't see it providing much benefit to you.
Ahh stupid me, that's why. Sorry I didn't read the information of Syberia good enough. What do you mean with the bolded part?

Oh and I was planning to make an offset calculator, should I make it or woud it be useless?
 
It doesn't match the ability of the seed you need, it matches the abilities of the seed you got. And then it only matches the abilities of spreads when you select DPPt breeding.

You meant "Egg PID", right.

As you're a flashcart user I really think you can probably ingore this all together, as I don't see it providing much benefit to you.

Well, I'm a flashcart user and I'm usin the coinflip to help me with my legendary resettings.
 
Ahh stupid me, that's why. Sorry I didn't read the information of Syberia good enough. What do you mean with the bolded part?

Oh and I was planning to make an offset calculator, should I make it or woud it be useless?

Disregard my bolded comments.

Do you mean something to tell you how many times to do what to hit a certain frame? I can see that being useful and if it's easy and quick you might want to go ahead and do it. No promises that it won't eventually make it into RNG Reporter, but having something NOW is always good.

Which reminds me I need to rehost those new spreadsheets and link your search site today.

You meant "Egg PID", right.

Well, I'm a flashcart user and I'm usin the coinflip to help me with my legendary resettings.

Yes, egg PID. And you're right it's also useful for high frame legend captures, it's early I am not quite awake yet. :/ It will be interesting to see if the coin flips or scenting will become the preferred method for finding your place for legends, though.
 
Yes, egg PID. And you're right it's also useful for high frame legend captures, it's early I am not quite awake yet. :/ It will be interesting to see if the coin flips or scenting will become the preferred method for finding your place for legends, though.

Coin flips are best for Cresselia, the birds, and egg IVs, even with a flashcart. Sweet Scent is great if you have a really high number of journal flips and\or are prone to losing count.

Scenting isn't viable for Cresselia at all as you have to first scent from outside Canalave, and then walk through a city full of wandering NPCs to get to the boat. (Luckily I didn't need more than 450 flips to catch a Calm, shiny few-points-off-flawless HP Ground 70 Cresselia.)

Though another nice thing about Sweet Scent is that you can play your game in the meantime - walk around grass patches, let the NPCs wander and still figure out where the RNG is. Works great if your target frame is really high.
 
I can see it saving a huge amount of time for anyone without IV check, as well. For breeding, not so helpful, but honestly DPPt breeding is so hard to get what you want (no way to control offset) that I've decided to stick to Emerald, for the most part.
 
Really? I found it's fairly easy to get a consistent offset with breeding egg IVs, so long as you don't resave every time you change the date, and just look for spreads with the journal page offset. I've noticed from a few posts here that people still seem to be doing that.

Maybe it's because I'm not as good at Emerald breeding as other people, but I'm finding DPPt breeding to be easier and more fruitful than Emerald breeding. It takes me fewer tries, anyway.

Speaking of egg IV targeting, here's some gratuitious showing-off: 31\30\30\31\31\31 Naive shiny Gastly. Probably will go up for giveaway along with Cresselia after the VGC is over this year.
 
@ Syberia and OmegaDonut - Ok, since you're both around I am going to quickly package 4.60 and do a release. It has what I have done so far with flips so if either of you have time some feedback related to this aspect with regards to egg IVs would be appreciated. Should take me about 10 or 15 minutes.

@ OmegaDonut - As I work through the rest of the egg IV guide I may want to add a subsection for using the journal to get more consistant offsets. I wonder why it makes it easier, though, to be honest. It seems like you would just have a higher frame to start with but the same problems with the NPCs immediately walking would be problematic. Is it just easier/quicker to cancel the journal/collect an egg with less of a time gap you think?

EDIT: NEW VERSION UPLOADED

- Added a list of 10 Coin Flips to the breeding Time Finder to make it easier to see if you hit the correct Date/Time/Delay without having to hatch an egg or scent a Pokemon.
- Added Coin Flips to breeding Time Finder CSV output.
- Added a Coin Column to the DPPt Egg PID output.
- Added a Coin Column to the DPPt Egg PID CSV output.
- Added Actual to the Method J CSV output.
- FIX: Made Method J CSV output work.
- FIX: Corrected a problem with the Seed to Time dialog.
- FIX: Don't let the RMB menu show on the IVs to PID dialog if there are no item displayed in the grid.
- FIX: Clicking the Time Finder button when the Time Finder is already open will now properly focus that window.
 
Disregard my bolded comments.

Do you mean something to tell you how many times to do what to hit a certain frame? I can see that being useful and if it's easy and quick you might want to go ahead and do it. No promises that it won't eventually make it into RNG Reporter, but having something NOW is always good.

Which reminds me I need to rehost those new spreadsheets and link your search site today.
Ok, I will start to create it tomorrow, because I'm going to a friend tonight. Oh and I'm not sure if you already saw it, but my site has, your and Syberia's CSV spreads, and I deleted the double ones (the ones with the same PID)
 
Looks quite useful, mingot :)

I was in class for the last hour or so, and for whatever reason, my school's wireless was blocking your site. I'm home now so I could finally download the program.
 
Nice a new version :toast:

Oh and I want to be sure of this: The Legends Resetting works the same in D/P as it works in Platinum, right? I know the first post says that it works for all 4th generation games, but I'm not sure if that includes legends aswell.
 
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