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oddsok said:
Ok, so I used Syberia's CSV file to find a spread. I found one with a seed of:37130298

I then put this into the default RNG Reporter screen seed (hex) area. I changed the dropdown to Method J, changed synch nature to Timid generated my results and found my target spread. This is what I got:

672 727 E39C635D 0:11.20 Timid 1 30 17 30 31 31 31 Ice68 FMMF

My question is, do I use the Frame or Actual as my offset/frame?

And does this spread assume a year date etc? If so how do I figure this out?

I then put this seed into the seed to time tool and changed the year accordingly so that I could get a reasonable delay.

With the time date year given for the seed->time tool, do I use the time given by this or the time given by the spread generator (0:11.20, shown above)

Thanks
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Odd, the are some directions in the OP (a bit slim, but still) that have the basic steps to reset legends check them out. The directions say what to use as your time and make no mention of "actual" at all so that should be a hint.

NOTE: I will be removing the time field from Method J for the next release.
 
About DP: I'm having a difficult time getting consistent delays with Diamond. I'm using the same rhythm that gets me a delay of 601 on Platinum, but it fluctuates wildly on Diamond - from 603 to 623. I've never gotten such wide-ranging results on Platinum.
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So that's why it takes me an hour to get the target in my JP Pearl...
I wasn't too suspicious of this though, as at times I run into the same seeds in a row (one time I've run through the seed 4 times in a row).

On an unrelated note, yet still ties to this topic
4. Begin your cycle of soft resetting, remembering to set the clock on your DS each and every time so the time when you "Continue" exactly matches what you picked from the "Seed to Time" dialog.
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Instead of resetting my time everytime I fail an attempt, I just wait for another 59 seconds until the list of times run out in the time generation, then set the clock back.
 
Jibaku said:
So that's why it takes me an hour to get the target in my JP Pearl...
I wasn't too suspicious of this though, as at times I run into the same seeds in a row (one time I've run through the seed 4 times in a row).

On an unrelated note, yet still ties to this topic

Instead of resetting my time everytime I fail an attempt, I just wait for another 59 seconds until the list of times run out in the time generation, then set the clock back.
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DP: But then some say they get consistent delays in DP. Either way I finally started looking at the delay code and have started to make some inroads so hopefully at some point we can get it completely figured out.

As for the 59 seconds thing ... Clever. I'm going to guess you're doing this for Frame 1 shinys or? Seems like it would be impossible to hit your next 59 second interval otherwise. Might work with IV breeding, too, but would likely require 2 cycles to give you enough time to flip the coin.

I think at some point this needs to make it to the OP, at least as a note for folks resetting on something that can take advantage of it.
 
As for the 59 seconds thing ... Clever. I'm going to guess you're doing this for Frame 1 shinys or? Seems like it would be impossible to hit your next 59 second interval otherwise
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I did this for my Method J shiny

When catching my Shiny Palkia, I looked at the time list

All of these times produce the same seed.
12:00:18 (12:00:04 when I press A and start the game from the DS Menu)
12:01:17 (12:01:03)
12:02:16 (12:02:02)

and so forth until
12:18:00 (12:17:46)

After I've done that and still failed, I reset the time back to 11:59 and wait for 12:00:04.

In other words, I start the game every 59 seconds from the last starting point.
 
(Legends)

On the first page during the calibration phase it says to record the seconds and delay during resetting.

Now it only shows one, I never see just one intial seed. Am I correct in assuming that this was altered for simplicities sake? And am I supposed to record the seconds and delay for every initial spread that shows up on just one pokemon? Or am I only supposed to record the first? The one with the lowest delay?
 
If you download the newest version of RNG reporter, it should only show one initial seed. Ignore the "monster seeds," if it shows any.
 
Another question, while I was doing my calibration phase I did look at the shiny "spreads" incase a good one came up. I got one with a few taps and went for it but didn't get a shiny.

In thetorsoboys vid he used method 1. I did that last ime but I'm using syberia's ditto this time around. Do I need to change to PID international or is that for something unrelated (IVs, whatev)?
 
Er, he used either Platinum Egg PID or DPPt Egg PID as the method, depending on what version of RNG Reporter he used to make that video. Definitely not Method 1. What version are you using anyhow? You should very rarely get more than a single initial seed, and if you do it would probably be wise to just reset, as only one of them is correct. Unless you know which is which.
 
You're right I was mistaken.

mingont, I'm using version 4.5 but I didn't realize that I had accidentally opened version 3.4. That explains why I had so many seconds/delay options.
 
After realizing I was using the seed finder incorrectly by setting year as 2000 instead of 2009, I've noticed 2 things:

1. all delays from 5/9/2009 are now coming up even, but my target delay is an odd 701. Do the odd/even delays depend on the day or game or DS or am I stuck?

2. when starting game and maybe did a few coin flips, I immediately pressed A, but when after finding its seed, the frames seem to come out different. Was I supposed to do something to determine the frame offset? or is it going to somehow be random each time?
 
OK, I'm reading how to catch Wild pokemon (Method J, Azelf in this case). I need to find a time, which I did, so that I need my desired delay.

Now, to advance the RNG, I need to flip the journal TO a page with a captured pokemon on it to advance 2 seeds. so, If I had an offset of 601 (Starting frame is 1), I need to flip TO that page, foreward or back, 300 times? I'm not 100% clear on the journal flips thing yet...
 
I'm standing outside Heatran's cave. Does the one step taken to enter the cave count as a step in an area that wild pokemon can be found?
 
oddsok said:
I'm standing outside Heatran's cave. Does the one step taken to enter the cave count as a step in an area that wild pokemon can be found?
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Doesn't really matter. Just reset, walk up into Heatran's cave and see what frame the resulting Heatran is from. Then take that frame into account when advancing the RNG.
 
Not sure, but why not just enter his room and save there? You can always run 128 steps if you have an even offset.
 
Jibaku said:
Confirming that it does work in D/P. I just used my JP Pearl to get my Shiny Modest Giratina (whose throne you stole by ID/SID hacking lol), and Shiny Hasty Palkia.
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Ok, Amazing! Hahah =P,

Oh, and the RNG Reporter doesn't listen to me, I entered max offset 10, and it gave me results with offset 999, I think my Computer is the problem, will try it on another PC here in house.

EDIT: Mingot, you have the wrong link in the first thread, that link will show the lowest average Spread, you can just use this http://dppt.x-treem.nl/
instead of http://dppt.x-treem.nl/?pagina=zoeken&volgorde=gemiddeld&bij=ASC

Syberia said:
Vlegtuig, I just found your spread search thing. That is awesome.
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I knew it's useful!
 
Supe said:
Not sure, but why not just enter his room and save there? You can always run 128 steps if you have an even offset.
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Well I'm using the sweet scent method to reduce the amount of flips I'm going to have to do, so therefore have to be outside the cave.
 
Expert Evan said:
After realizing I was using the seed finder incorrectly by setting year as 2000 instead of 2009, I've noticed 2 things:

1. all delays from 5/9/2009 are now coming up even, but my target delay is an odd 701. Do the odd/even delays depend on the day or game or DS or am I stuck?

2. when starting game and maybe did a few coin flips, I immediately pressed A, but when after finding its seed, the frames seem to come out different. Was I supposed to do something to determine the frame offset? or is it going to somehow be random each time?
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thetorsoboy said:
Change your GBA slot. As in, if a game is in currently, take it out. If it's not in, put one in. That'll make your delays even.
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Thanks TTB, now that leaves me with the question of determining what frame is my heatran on if it does not start at frame 1 and seems to vary?
 
The offset should be constant. And I'm pretty sure Coin Flips don't affect it. Are you just pressing A on it?

Catching things can throw it off.
 
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