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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

only pressing A to get heatran to battle with, otherwise I'd press A to get to journal entries. I do have 5 pokemon in my party along with an AR if that matters any.
 
Okay, I've got a quick question about the SID. I've gotten to the point where I have the first 3 sets of codes, and I've added them up (or whatever you want to call it). After putting it into the calc on my computer, it only gave me three digits. Is that okay, or do I need to take off the 3 zeros in the front of my code and add the 3 ones I cut off (14-16) to the end or is that okay?
 
Thanks TTB, now that leaves me with the question of determining what frame is my heatran on if it does not start at frame 1 and seems to vary?

The offset should be constant. And I'm pretty sure Coin Flips don't affect it. Are you just pressing A on it?

Catching things can throw it off.

OFFSET IS NOT THE SAME THING AS FRAME NUMBER

Unless you really know why and for what purpose you are using it please disregard the offset in the Initial Seed finder.

Get your initial seed.
Select Method J
If you have a syncher, select the nature
Click Generate

Find the Pokemon you captured in the list and note the FRAME NUMBER.

I have a working calculator, but it only works for 1 Pokémon in the Party, so is it useful to put it online?

Why not just finish it? If it only works with one Pokemon in the party it's not likely to be extremely useful to the majority of users and will only confuse them.

Okay, I've got a quick question about the SID. I've gotten to the point where I have the first 3 sets of codes, and I've added them up (or whatever you want to call it). After putting it into the calc on my computer, it only gave me three digits. Is that okay, or do I need to take off the 3 zeros in the front of my code and add the 3 ones I cut off (14-16) to the end or is that okay?

It could be fine.

Post your PID/ID and the three binary numbers and I can check it over if you would like. Also, there was a feature added to RNG Reporter to do this for you automatically, so you could go ahead and click IVs to PID and enter your ID and the IVs and nature of your CAPTURED, NON CHAINED shiny and have it deduce your SID.
 
Maybe a stupid question, but can I enter a battle to check the IVs? (not IV battle, but I catch the Pokémon, switch it to the front of my team, fight a wild pokémon at a way higher level, switch to a lv. 100 and beat the wild Pokémon, my newly caught Pokémon levels up and I calculate IVs)

//Hana~
 
Yes, but you will want to make a note of the EVs your Pokemon picked up during that battle to input that into the IV calculator. Honestly, though you are probably better off just catching something > level 50 to start with and using that. It will give a fairly narrow range of IV possibilities for you to test.
 
Why not just finish it? If it only works with one Pokemon in the party it's not likely to be extremely useful to the majority of users and will only confuse them.
Well I don't know how I need to calculate it, could you give me an example?

Oh and is it easier to get a Dialga/Palkia in Platinum then in Diamond Pearl?
 
You only have to beat the game once to get both of them, so from that standpoint it's much easier. You have to catch Giratina first and have both orbs with you, though.
 
You only have to beat the game once to get both of them, so from that standpoint it's much easier. You have to catch Giratina first and have both orbs with you, though.
no you dont even need to catch giratina, you do need to activate the heatran event first though
 
Well I don't know how I need to calculate it, could you give me an example?

Oh and is it easier to get a Dialga/Palkia in Platinum then in Diamond Pearl?

Check the OP, it tells you the seed consumption for walking outside of grass with certain numbers of members in your party.

Is it possible to use this to find when a shiny spread will appear after the spread you started on? http://pokem.client.jp/seed.htm

Absolutely, just follow the simple instructions on that page.
 
Yes, but you will want to make a note of the EVs your Pokemon picked up during that battle to input that into the IV calculator. Honestly, though you are probably better off just catching something > level 50 to start with and using that. It will give a fairly narrow range of IV possibilities for you to test.

Kay, thanks.
 
The Guides are really handy, but since English isn't my mother language it is hard to understand.

Is there someone here who speaks Dutch and can explain this to me?
 
I found the Manaphy Egg wondercard online, generated one in Diamond, and went through RNG Reporter. I was fast enough that none of the NPCs in the Poke Mart moved, and sure enough, the IVs and PID showed up as method 1, offset 1.
 
OFFSET IS NOT THE SAME THING AS FRAME NUMBER

Unless you really know why and for what purpose you are using it please disregard the offset in the Initial Seed finder.

Get your initial seed.
Select Method J
If you have a syncher, select the nature
Click Generate

Find the Pokemon you captured in the list and note the FRAME NUMBER.
Since I wrote down the seeds, nature & IVs at home, I'll check. Otherwise I'll redo. Hopefully it'll all become clear this time.
 
I found the Manaphy Egg wondercard online, generated one in Diamond, and went through RNG Reporter. I was fast enough that none of the NPCs in the Poke Mart moved, and sure enough, the IVs and PID showed up as method 1, offset 1.

Well, what I think the thing to do with this one is going to be to make sure the journal pops up (much like OmegaDonut does to get higher spreads on egg IVs), then manipulate the the pages, and finally cancel/collect. If the Journal automatically pops up the RNG calls for the NPC don't happen until the cancel.

This will only let you get odd frames (if you cancel and then collect before NPC movement), but it will still open it up a little.
 
Check the OP, it tells you the seed consumption for walking outside of grass with certain numbers of members in your party
I have an Exam tomorrow, so I can't work on it, but I will take a look at it, got to go now.

You only have to beat the game once to get both of them, so from that standpoint it's much easier. You have to catch Giratina first and have both orbs with you, though.
Well that won't be a problem, but I was asking because the Delay in D/P is difficulty/annoyer then in Platinum, I'm not sure if this is true.
 
Um, I'm having trouble with this. Can I turn off the game and then out an AR in it, then start the game? My AR codes don't save when I reset the game.
 
Um, I'm having trouble with this. Can I turn off the game and then out an AR in it, then start the game? My AR codes don't save when I reset the game.

You have to manually turn the game on/off with the switch (hard resetting)

Also, you can program your AR codes to come on automatically by selecting a code, going into the editor for it and scrolling through. Next time it will be checked every time you start up the AR so it'll come on automatically. You still have to hard reset though.
 
Has anyone found applications for FR/LG or Ru/Sa? I suppose Ru/Sa is pointless with Emerald around, but FR/LG seed based only on time spent in the menu iirc, which would make it possible to manipulate.

Would Ru/Sa seed like D/P/P minus delay, since the menu doesn't affect their seeding?
 
Some legend starting frames from RNG abuse attempts:

Azelf: 1 (we knew this already, but it's good to confirm)
Uxie: 1
Mesprit: 5 (found this the hard way: while trying to manipulate a 3900+ offset; this caused me to go back and check a fresh Mesprit)
 
Has anyone found applications for FR/LG or Ru/Sa? I suppose Ru/Sa is pointless with Emerald around, but FR/LG seed based only on time spent in the menu iirc, which would make it possible to manipulate.

Would Ru/Sa seed like D/P/P minus delay, since the menu doesn't affect their seeding?
There was something said about FRLG (I think it was loadingNOW) that it saves your current seed whenever you save your game, and uses that along with time spent on the menu or something to determine a new starting seed. So unless you can find that seed in the save file (assuming what I read is correct), time spent in the menu or whatever isn't going to help you. Not that it matters anymore, though, as Mewtwo is the only pokemon you can't get in Emerald/DPPt and even that may change with the release of the Gold/Silver remakes.

Mesprit having an offset of 5 makes sense, since Cresselia does as well.
 
For the calibration phase can we use an AR to check IVs, I only ask this because I'm entering data on a lvl. 52 raticate which is possibly the highest pokemon in-game. The problem is that when I enter its stats in metalkid's iv calculator it gives me two results but, I can level it up until level 100 although that will take me awhile each time.
 
When checking IVs, you don't have to go up to L100. At all. It's just process of elimination. For example:

L52 Pokemon has a 96 in Attack, corresponding to 25-27 for IVs. Give it a Rare Candy and its new Attack is 97, corresponding to 26-28 for IVs. Now you already know from the L52 stats that its IV can't be 28, because its highest IV was 27. And now we also know that its lowest IV is 26, from its stats at L53. So now we've narrowed down the Attack IV to 26-27.

This is how Metalkid's calculator works, and it streamlines the process. I think. I've never actually used it; I've got my own spreadsheet for IV calculations.
 
Ok, so I figured out my seed with a caught pokemon via sweet scent. It said my pokemon was frame 115, which was confirmed in the Method 1 list. I then went and caught Heatran and figured out it's IVs and found them on the Method J list. It was frame 121, instead of the 124 it should have been (123 if you don't add on the offset of Heatran)

I'm finding this much more difficult than exploitation of egg IVs. I really cannot get the hang of this, and Platinum constantly changing between even and odd delays isn't helping.

I could use the coin flip trick, but I'd at least like to try and get this right first so that there would be less page flips to do.

This was only a test by the way.
 
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